Feeling superior

Incredible racism of (some) Iranians

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Feeling superior
by Setareh Sabety
06-Jan-2009
 

Iranians can be extremely racist.  I was first made aware that Iranians were perceived, by others in the region, as arrogant racists by a Pakistani professor of Islamic literature at Boston University.  Professor Rahbar taught in the Religion department and most Iranians took his literature course for an easy grade.  He also conducted the Farsi exams which, if passed, made the University wave the second-language requirement for Iranian students.  The poor man, who was well-versed in Persian poetry and loved Saadi and Hafez, was routinely ridiculed by his Iranian students.  This was mostly because of his Pakistani accent.  Although his eccentric habit of cooking curry in his office, in the Theology building on Mass. Ave., did not help either.   

He opened the class that fall semester many years ago talking about the incredible arrogance of Iranians vis-à-vis others in the region. He quoted from non Iranian poets to illustrate that poetry and indeed Farsi itself was not just the genre or language of Iranians.  He claimed that this beautiful language that served so wonderfully the poetry of the heart and spirit which in turn gave it such lasting resonance, was not worthy of the arrogant majority to whom it belonged.  Those comments opened my eyes and made me realize that racism was not just the stuff of Malcolm X and the U.S but of ours as well.  I remembered my elementary school friend Mojib, also a Pakistani, and how my friendship with him was ridiculed by my older cousins.  They called him my nokar seeyah or black servant.  I did not like their chiding but did not have the language, as a schoolgirl, with which to interpret it as hateful, racist and arrogant.  I knew that the Professor was overly sensitive to the issue because of the treatment he was getting from the Iranians in his class but I also knew that he was not wrong.

That first night after Rahbar’s class I called my mother, recently exiled from an Islamic Iran, and told her proudly about the ‘Islamic’ lit. course that I was taking.  She shouted back that Iranian poetry is anything but Islamic!  She yelled, “they want to take Hafez and Saadi away from us too!” For years I tried to explain to her and Iranians like her that in academia ‘Islamic’ designated a shared culture spanning a period and an area that had Islam as its most unifying common denominator.  It did not mean that Persian poetry was Arabic or religious just that it came from that time and place where Islam was the dominant culture.   

For Iranians, like my mother, freshly chased out of their country, who had seen many a friend die at the hands of the newly empowered mullahs, it was hard to feel any sense of empathy or identity with Islam.  But when she went on to call the professor “martikeh Pakistani” then I knew that my own mom was not free of the prejudice and arrogance discussed by Professor Rahbar.  For many Iranians believe that they have a richer culture, a better skin color, and are generally superior to all Indians, Pakistanis, Afghanis, Arabs and Africans.   

Through-out the years I have run into this kind of racism again and again.  Of course there is concrete evidence of state-sponsored racism against the Afghanis who provide Iran, like the Mexicans in the U.S, with cheap labor.  That is a problem, like the history of slavery in Iran that merits much more thorough and academic discussion than I can provide here.   

The kind of salon-racism that my Professor talked about and my mother betrayed by her comments is what I sadly run into again when I talk about what is happening in Gaza.  Not from my mother, mind you, who has matured into an Al-Jazeera watching democrat.  But, mostly from the ultra-nationalists and monarchists, with whom I have the privilege to live, here in Nice.  Who are not unlike the ultra-nationalist monarchists that I keep running into, when I write essays, in the comments section of this site.    

To be pro-Palestinian amongst this bunch of Iranians is like being pro-Castro in Miami: extremely difficult.   I have simply stopped going out to any parties and if I am in their company I try hard and against every instinct in my body to remain silent.  New Year’s Eve I was invited to a party by a dear old friend.   There I ran into a Zionist European who is married to an Iranian.  He started talking about Gaza. I asked him if he was a Zionist, he said provocatively, “one hundred percent.”  Then I started trying to say something that would make me feel like I have taken a stance but without ruining the party for both of us. He knew were I stood and had read my articles about Palestine many years ago.  So he was not going to give up. I turned to my Iranian friend, highly educated and kindhearted Ali, asking him what he thought; he was an old Le Monde reading leftist who loves children so I was hoping that I would get some badly needed support.  He turned around and said, “Good for Israel they should kill all those flea-infested, bearded, shit-smelling, cock roach-eating Muslim terrorists.”  Ali has the kind of hairy Iranian look that I am sure gets him thoroughly checked at the airport each time he wants to fly somewhere.  But he simply can not see that he looks so much like the people he so abhors! He feels superior to them because they are Arabs and he is Iranian!  I just turned on my heals, headed for the bar and joined the women at the other end who were talking about diets: another favorite topic of mine!  The days when I ruined entire parties with my zeal for an opinion are long gone!

Another day I ran into some friends of my parents in a café talking to a younger realtor.  This time I walked in the middle of the conversation. The old lady with an Azeri accent, who had a raspy voice from years of smoking, was saying, “Elahi hameyeh in malakhorhayeh reeshoo ro nabood koneh Israel.”  (May Israel destroy all these bearded cockroaches!”)   This time I had to say something and there was no party to ruin-- so I ventured, “why do you hate these poor Palestinians so?”   

What she said I have heard many times with different degrees of venomous passion and hatred: Palestinians helped the mullahs come to power in Iran, they are supported by the current Islamic regime, and they are therefore the enemy of “real patriotic Iranians.”   

The logic goes something like this:

1.  The Islamic Republic supports the Palestinian cause.

2.  IRI is an illegitimate theocratic regime that should be overthrown.

3.  Therefore Palestinians are stinking Arabs who do not deserve our support.

So laced with their hatred of the mullahs is their sense of superiority and hatred towards the Arabs.  They go on to say, why should WE help these bastards, why should the regime give them money that is better used on Iran and Iranians.  They are not OUR problem.  They are not our friends; they are the friends of the mullah regime and are therefore our enemies. They are stinking Arab cockroach eaters!  

I kissed her and said that I had to go but that I was always pro-Palestinian since I did a project for Mr. Holmes on the Arab-Israeli conflict in the 8th grade at the Tehran Community School.  What do you say to people who use such logic and are so racist?  She turned around and said,” Setareh joon zaminaayeh babato pass gerefti az in akhoondayeh dozd? Setareh darling, did you get back your father’s land from these mullah thieves?  I said no and left.

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Humanity...

by Ajam (not verified) on

Thank you dear Ms. Sabetty for sharing your experiences. Indeed, many of us have come across similar situations where one would have to make the difficult choice between remaining silent out of respect for the hosts of a gathering, or speak out in response to ignorant remarks of a loud-mouth bigot, hence the chance of being accused of supporting the IRI for refusing to subscribe to some inhuman racist agenda! As if due to IRI's support for Palistinians, every Iranian "patriot" therefore has to be against them! But isn’t that reactionary? What about South Africa? Did Iranians have to condone the apartheid system because IRI condemned it?!

I believe such racism is in a part institutionalized in our culture, and in other parts due to a Social Darwinist attitude adopted mainly by monarchists and the far right to align with the current trend of "war on terror" propaganda. It is desperate times, and it call for desperate measures!

P.S. There are about nine million Plistianains of different creeds, beliefs and political inclinations, some of whom may indeed have supported Saddam Hussein. Does that imply that all Palistinains are at fault? Are we to assume that every Iranian is to blame for Mojahedin's support for Saddam?!


Hajminator

Nicely written

by Hajminator on

Humans are in general intolerant to things or persons that are different from their norms. In our case, this way of thinking took a radical turn because of the Persian Empire, where our ancestors used to think that other peoples were Persian subjects.

This video shows well how this intolerance became our second nature in our everyday living.




As Aristote says, old habits die hard.


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Arab media

by Shia Lebanese (not verified) on

Throw the Arab media in that same nasty bunch of dictators, most often than not the media is state-owned or corporate owned like Harri's Future-TV in Lebanon that has a vested interest in maintaining the status quo or is heavily censored by the government. Dont forget, Saddam had similar tactics used on the Iraqis.


Anonymous Observer

Shia Lebanese

by Anonymous Observer on

Point well taken.  But in the spirit of showing unity among "people of the region", can you please point us to one article from the Arab media (except for the Syrians who had a financial and political interest in the matter) condemning the use of chemical weapons by Iraq against Iran in the 1980's or condemning Iraq'a attack on Iranian civilians by scud missles?

Harmony and coexistence is a two way street my friend.


Setareh Sabety

Dear shia Lebanese,

by Setareh Sabety on

bravo, bravo, bravo...


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Saddam, Arafat, Khomeini

by Shia Lebanese (not verified) on

Rajab,

That's the best you can come up with? Saddam, Arafat and Khomeini? I will not even address Khomeini, as that is your territory, but Saddam and Arafat? Add to that list all the Sheikhs in the Gulf, Sadat, Mubarak, the House of Saud, the Assads, the Hashemite Kingdom, the Ottoman Empire, Fatah, Hamas and all the governments in modern day Lebanon. The corruption and oppression of all these leaders and groups would take years to outline. If they had or have supporters it is a select group of people that were also trying to "survive," yet their horrific actions are still unforgivable. This notion that Iranian culture is under attack really is so self absorbed. The vast majority of the 400 million Arabs in the region are so politically oppressed and economically downtrodden that I doubt a scheme on how to "Arabize" you all comes before trying to feed their families. We really need to learn how to differentiate between the actions of totalitarian governments and political parties and the people. There hasn’t been one government or political party in the Arab world that is completely for their constituents in the last 50 years, I'm sure Iranians can relate.

If Iranian culture is under attack it is at the hands of Western culture through something called Globalization. We Arabs did not invent the idea of hair bleaching and nose jobs... And as for attempting to gloss over the fact that saying "Arab culture is lower than Iranian culture" is not racist, try again. As for the Islamic empires, don’t stop there—why not go back to the Sumerians, Assyrians etc? We modern day Arabs are not only supposed to be held accountable for the awful actions of our leaders (who oppress us first and foremost and are in power despite our uprisings because of Western backing that provides them with a large arsenal of weapons), but also all of the Islamic empires? Unbelievable.

Instead of so much divisive talk, why not come to understand that we have been in similar situations for hundreds of years? "we" the people of the region.


Setareh Sabety

ugly specimes, locusts and prohibition

by Setareh Sabety on

I just checked out the race site and laughed. It seems that the site wants to prove that all races are equally ugly! could they not pick better specimens as examples! lol. I like the bahaollah quote if only he allowed drinking he would have a much larger following! Thank you for the correct definition of Malakh. I stand corrected! Iranian Reader our mutual friend was no help. can you email me and tell me who you are? Sabety60@yahoo.com.
Some one just sent me this link. It is a great piece on the crises in case you have not seen it.
//www.juancole.com/2009/01/al-fakhoura-school...


Flying Solo

What an incredible piece of information

by Flying Solo on

Anonymous.

I now know a lot more about 'race'. It reminded me of my days of poring over my father's anthropology books - checking out the head sizes and the resemblance to apes.  Most of the various features are a product of climate adaptation and migration I expect.  Darwin at work.

Thanks for sharing the link.


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From The Same Dust

by scb (not verified) on

Allow me to offer the words of an Iranian Who taught universal tolerance as the ultimate solution to the pervasive ill of "racial" prejudice:

"O CHILDREN OF MEN!

Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul, to walk with the same feet, eat with the same mouth and dwell in the same land, that from your inmost being, by your deeds and actions, the signs of oneness and the essence of detachment may be made manifest.

Such is My counsel to you, O concourse of light! Heed ye this counsel that ye may obtain the fruit of holiness from the tree of wondrous glory."

- Bahá'u'lláh, The Hidden Words (Kalimat Maknuna), Arabic No. 68.]


Bunyip

Dear Fatollah Khan

by Bunyip on

Malakh means "locust"

Malakh-khor means "someone who eats locusts"

"cockroach" is soosk


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Setareh Sabety thank you

by Vince (not verified) on

I was beginning to think my opinion of this web sight was making me a racist. I'm glad to see that my feelings about (some) Iranians here may be correct. But antisemitism usually goes hand in hand with racism.


Setareh Sabety

zion

by Setareh Sabety on

along with your comments it shows that you are a zionist before you are anything else. I wouldn't dream of converting a adamant zionist! also you seem to think that those who don't agree with you are racist and prejudice and those who do not are not. so you insinuate that I am racist while you and the people I described in my article are not. pray, why would I continue arguing with you dear sir or madam? I know when to stop and here is where I do.


Zion

Dear Setareh

by Zion on

How is my username in any way relevant here? [You think such a statement is indicative of a rational behavior on your part, by the way?]


Setareh Sabety

thank you ajam

by Setareh Sabety on

you answered zion for me. who keeps repeating him or herself! zion, as your username implies that your opinion is so fixed that I wouldn't dream of wanting to change it!


Zion

Dear Setareh

by Zion on

'dear zion, what else would you call someone who calls someone a flea infested cockroach eater? he is hardly displaying rational dislike!'

This means nothing. It could very well be an expression of outrage against the set of values and mode of action of those people,in the form of an angry verbal metaphor. I see no reason why that shouldn't be the case. He might have been angry of what these people do and what they stand for. When people are angry of something, the way they express their anger need not always be "rational". The anger itself could still very well be fully justified. What I pointed out was the implicit assumption on your part that this can only be due to the way they look or their genetic makeup, and that this is much more revelaing of your own modes of judgment than that of your friend.


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Inferiority...

by Ajam (not verified) on

A very good point with regard to this racist attitude, as addressed by Saman, is the underlying denial of ones own ethnicity. Ironically, majority of those harboring such racist sentiments toward Arabs and/or South Asians, either have Arabic/South Asian (Muslim) names or features, or both! I believe this paradox, in most part, emanates from a sense of inferiority Some Iranians feel toward Westerners and the way they might be perceived by them. In a way, they try to run away from who they are, assimilate and look chic and modernized from their Western point of view!

I remember my father once said (and I still don’t know whom he was quoting) “an illiterate is less harmful to him/herself and others than a semi-literate.” Further explaining that an illiterate person is a good listener and a humble observer, whereas a semi-literate clings onto half-truths in order to stand out as knowledgeable, and in eother words, is a slave to his/her vanity. Hence these attempts at dehumanizing Arabs and especially Plaistinians to a semi-literate person, are a defense mechanism to distance him/herself from is perceived to be inferior!

These attempts are usually coupled with superficial tid-bit knowledge of pre-Islamic Aryan grandeur, and propagating mythical fables of Palistinians having caused the 1979 revolution and/or participating in suppression of public protests in Iran (instigated by the LA- based satellite TV channels)!


Setareh Sabety

thank you and ...

by Setareh Sabety on

thank you those of you who were kind enough to read and compliment me for the article. thank you to those of you who read me and disagreed. Because many of your comments reveal the very prejudice I am discussing here. I think there was even a 'some of my friends are araBs' comment in there as well as my favorite, "why don't you go live in Palestine!"

dear zion, what else would you call someone who calls someone a flea infested cockroach eater? he is hardly displaying rational dislike!

Malakhor for the dear azeri who asked, means cockroach eater: it is the favorite Iranian denigration reserved only for araBs. comes from the wrongly held view that Arabs were savage desert dwellers who ate cockroaches before the invaded the highly civilized chelo khors (rice eaters) of Iran!

dear who ever claimed that I only show outrage towards zionists and monarchist etc..., read my articles you will see that I show more or equal outrage for the atrocities committed by the theocratic regime in Iran. At one point, which my detractors will never let me forget, despite attempts to back-track and explain myself in context: I was so angry with Islamists that I made a comment about how I would rather live in a secular Israel than a Islamist Palestine. I just write, mostly, whenever I get pissed off or moved! This piece was not even an angry one just an observation and discussion of a peculiar kind of arrogance and racism that I find amongst Iranians.
I am on record against khalkhali, khatami, even Ebadi and stoning and the silent intelligentsia abroad and so much more... I am no revolutionary and you could call me a khanzadeh living comfortably in opulent Nice (though those who see the car I drive and shoes I wear know better), but I do get sick to my stomach each time I stand in that passport line at the airport in Iran because of the things I have written against this regime using, mostly, and deliberately, my own name. so please do not accuse me of being one-sided. that I surely am not. and though I have never been imprisoned or tortured I have been amply damaged by the Islamic Revolution. I am no friend of the mullahs or the islamists--I consider myself one of their victims and enemies. yet I cannot hate Islam or arabs because of the some mullahs in ghom. and what is happening in Gaza is an atrocity. I really cannot see how anyone can defend it. It sickens me to see it happen.

oh and the pic with a yellow beard and blue eyes is a perfect fit for my article but I cannot claim credit for it!

Jahanshah Jan, thank you for jumping in there and putting in a word for me! again thank you all,


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Iranian Reader

by Anonymousb (not verified) on

Thanks.


Jahanshah Javid

Well done

by Jahanshah Javid on

Excellent piece. Arabs, Afghans, Pakistanis, Indians, Blacks, Hispanics, Chinese... (my god how log is this list?!) are generally looked down upon by Iranians. But we shouldn't stop there. There's also an irrational dislike of Jews and Bahais. Add to that our clan mentality, who's royalty and who is dehati, who's from a "good family" and who's ommoli...

One really good thing about the migration of a few million Iranians abroad is that we are able to look at ourselves, our habits, our manners, our culture... and ask rational questions without the social, political and religious restrictions and barriers back home.

Racism and deep suspicion of "others" are major issues which must be addressed and you have done it with honesty and fairness. Dastet dard nakoneh!


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perhaps....

by ali123 (not verified) on

you want us to thank arafat and his mercenaries for torching cinema rex and dressing up as imperial soldiers in jaleh square to shoot our own people! the akhoonds have wasted a trillion dollars of iran's wealth creating hezbollah and hamas instead of helping their own people- they don't give a crap about iran or it's culture, they are a buncha bloodthirsty goons that want to see a caliphate rule the middle east and then the world!


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Shia Lebanese

by Rajab. (not verified) on

You said:

If Palestinians fought in Saddam's army against Iran it was because they were living in Iraq at the time, and like Iraqis and Iranians alike, were forced to fight in a senseless war that was orchestrated by outside forces...

For your information: you are wrong on a few counts. (1) Palestinians who supported saddam were NOT those who lived in Iraq. Please go back to documentaries of that era to see Palestinians and particularly Arafat's gang joyed when saddam attacked iran. Arafat was in Iran shortly after revolution and robbed khomeini who in turn robbed wealth of children of iran for palestinian cause. When saddam attacked iran, Arafat changed side quickly, that is why he was demonized by the regime from then on. Saddam promised palestinians a share of iranian oil revenue and they cheered.

The second point is that you are blaming others for the war. That may be true, but there are always people who look for suckers and fools to take advantage of. If khomeini AND saddam had the slightest concern for their own people, they would have focused on welfare of their own people, rather than interfering in each other's business and being toyed with by those who look for suckers and fools. The blame for the war is squarely on the shoulders of saddam and khomeini, who after all shared a great deal of resemblance with each other.

As for imposition of islam on persia, you are wrong again. There are ample evidence that life was made horrible for persians who did not convert. The mildest form of it was the Jaziyeh (tax) that they had to pay. See text from iranian and arab historians who tell it with pride that Omar burned the libraries, and killed the rebellions. After all persians were called Ajam.

You are also wrong about racism towards arabs. As I said, persians have no feeling of superiority toward arabs that had nothing to do with them historically, like those of Yemen or Oman or Africa. The feeling of iranians towards arabs in their neighborhood is the result of natural resistance of the occupied and the occupiers (the persians and the forced islamic culture). In fact, up until the revolution, the people had very positive view of islam and its birth place. Even khomeini at one point suggested that arabic should be taught before or along-side persian in schools. In other words, the feeling is NOT racism but survival of an identity, the iranian identity which has been under attack for at least in the past 30 years.


Iranian Reader

Anonymousb: for you

by Iranian Reader on

Here is the link to Setareh's piece about her daughter:

//iranian.com/Features/2001/February/Racism/index.html

 And here is the index of her articles in the old site:

//iranian.com/sabety.html

 I couldn't find the abgoosht one! Maybe she can help.


Farhad Kashani

I'm not sure if I would use

by Farhad Kashani on

I'm not sure if I would use the word "racist", but definitely the sense of over pride has absolutely destroyed Iran. We think anything that has the label "Iranian" on it, is simply perfect.

Thats why we blame others for our own revolutions and coups and isolations, cause we think we're simply incapable of making mistakes.


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Setareh

by Anonymous^2 (not verified) on

Why don't you pack up your belongings, give up the comfort of living in the West, move to Palestine, and be the defender of the defenseless? Put your money where your mouth is!


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Re: Ramin and Arabs

by Shia Lebanese (not verified) on

If Palestinians fought in Saddam's army against Iran it was because they were living in Iraq at the time, and like Iraqis and Iranians alike, were forced to fight in a senseless war that was orchestrated by outside forces such as the CIA. This racism you speak of in the Arab world exists on the same level that racism exists everywhere in this world. That does not make it right but there is a difference between the actions and sentiments of the ruling class which openly practice oppression and the people who suffer because of it. It is highly unlikely that Arabs in a general sense felt the need to impose Islam on Persia, nor do they condone slavery and hold those racist sentiments you mentioned. The tone you are speaking from Ramin is one of prejudice, stereotype and flat out racism. Arab culture is not lower to Iranian culture, no culture is better than another, this type of thinking with cultural heiarchy is the sociological reasoning behind imperialism and colonialism.

Your government is not Arabized, it knows exactly what it is doing, thinks for itself, and has been actively doing so throughout the region for decades. Your government is just like any other in the Middle East, it plays the games of politics and power at the expense of civilians and their individual rights and you are feeding right into it.


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Iranians are racist

by Anonymoose (not verified) on

But in the case of Palestinians the 'logic' as articulated in the article is incomplete. Some Iranians believe that because Palestinians (PLO in particular) provided material support to Islamic revolutionaries before and until shortly after the revolution, they are responsible for what has happened to Iran. Some Iranians also believe that a lot of Iran's resources, and in fact Iran's national interest is sacrificed at the ideological altar of the Palestinian struggle. So some regular people, express these concerns in unacceptable racist language. None of it justifies or excuses the wish for the killing of ordinary people in the current conflict. Also I see a lot of racist Iranians who are pro-Palestinian and anti-Jewish (if one accepts your presumed distinction between a Jew and a preoIsrael Jew: i.e. a Zionist). THese racists Iranian may even be simultaneously anti-Arab. I have a sneaking suspicion this all is more an inferiority complex (oghdeh hegharat) than racism.


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Dear Iranian Reader

by Anonymousb (not verified) on

How can I find the articles of Ms. Sabeti, the ones you have mentioned? I did the search and could not find them.


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Although "race" exists...

by Anonymous. (not verified) on

The ability to adapt is what makes one species more "evolved" than another, there is no "ideal" human, only those most symbiotic with their environment...spiritual growth is what matters, biology can be changed, but we all share the souls of each other...karma is multiply connected, there are many types of intelligence and honorable characters...what the culture represents to earth's balance of cultures is what matters.

"Racial" bone structures and proportions:

//racialreality.110mb.com/subraces.html

God exists within everything, do not desecrate life, just one limb impacted suffices for all others to feel the mace...your spiritual DNA is what ultimately matters:

Questionable:

//www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_c...


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patriotic???

by patriotic iranians? (not verified) on

if we are so patriotic, why have so many of us bailed on iran. we have left her and family to come to the west so we can sit here and make "nice nice" about how honorable we are.
rajab is so right. we have more care for palestine than iran.


samsam1111

Wishfull thinking

by samsam1111 on

 

The subtle message turned into question via this article is ;

Why Ommatism & subjugation to Pan-Arab cause even after 14 centuries of efforts by cultural agents of alien Ommatism , Sufism, Kharabati poetry/literature/philosophy , has not seen full acceptance by dual-identity psyche , post Qadesiyeh Iran & especialy in Ommati occupied V-ran of today ? ...Very simple ;

It,s because , this alien virus has found a home in our language/culture & psyche but it will never be recognized as our true heritage in the eyes of many, including a fringe ultra-patriot lunetic like me . It,s called the virus of Ommatism . It,s way beyond mere race but acknowledging a suppressed identity . in essence it,s a battle between 2 camps , one that seeks it,s lineage to Eran-Shahr / Rostam Farokhzad and one, that seeks it,s lineage in Qadesiyeh /Saad Ibn Vaghass . It,s about Iranic psyche & Ommatism(which is different than Islam as a private religion of many) . Pure and simple & there is no end until the real end .

//www.iranianidentity.blogspot.com/

 

cheers!!!