GAZA

Anon 7 & 8

#7....I don't believe that would be a good idea.

#8....Either you haven't read what I have repeatedly written or you choose to ignore it in order to continue to provoke debate. Therefore, I will say this one last time.

I don't want to see the lives of innocent civilians lost, destroyed or otherwise interrupted. However, I do not equate either Hamas or Hezbollah as innocent civilians. They are terrorists. Innocent civilians do not adopt charters that call for the destruction of another country and its people. Terrorists do.

I do not wish to see any loss of innocent life. But I do not count Hamas or Hezbollah among the innocent.

There has never been a sovereign Palestinian state. And as long as Hamas and Hezbollah are in existence, there likely never will be a Palestine. And ultimately the Palestinian people, the civilians that I do not want to see killed or hurt are the ones who lose.

It is not I who is dead wrong, rather it is you who is dead wrong, for equating a group of criminals with legitimate, decent, honorable Palestinians.

These criminals claim to be fighting for the cause of Palestinian independence and sovereignty, yet there are very few Palestinians who comprise their ranks, and they are financed with Iranian money embezzled from the Iranian people by their IRI co-conspirators. The funds that have been misappropriated (to put it mildly) by the IRI makes the Pahlavi family bank balance look like a child's Christmas club account. 

I also suppose you don't care about the Palestinian civilians put in harm's way by the existence of these Hamas rockets in heavily populated civilian neighborhoods throughout Gaza.

If that doesn't bother you, then I can only conclude that you are in fact a supporter of terrorism against civilians based upon the fact that the primary victims of Hamas and Hezbollah are Israeli civilians who are Jewish, which really leaves nothing more for us to discuss.  

Jenabe Kaveh

Jenabe Kaveh, I am one of those guys you call "arab passt" and got rid of Shah's regime. Nice to meet you, can we have a coffee?

Kaveh, you r DEAD wrong!

calling for destruction of anything doesn't hurt anybody. there is no reason to kill women and children to eliminate that call for destruction. you will never get it anyway

Niloufar

If someone suggests that I'm advocating the killing of peaceful civilians, when I have repeatedly made it clear that I don't hold such a view, then I most certainly will take it personally.

When the PLO was Israel's greatest problem, I held the same view of them as I have currently for Hamas and Hezbollah. As long as they call for the destruction of another sovereign nation, then they are not legitimate. It does not make a difference how that nation came to become sovereign. Going backwards in time fulfills no useful purpose, and The British Mandate, The UN partition or the 1967 war will not be undone.

But the PLO renounced and reversed their position regarding Israel's destruction. It was only then that Israel began to engage them diplomatically, despite the fact that they still didn't trust Arafat.

As much as secular leaders have been corrupt, the religious ones have been much worse.

And Israel's policies, however objectionable you may find them to be, does not grant Hamas and/or Hezbollah the right to do what they do. The rocket attacks from Gaza into Israel are no different than when Iraq invaded Iran.

Religious fundamentalism does not have its roots dating back to 1948. As we all know, modern religious fundamentalism traces its origins to that Indian that Mohammad Reza Shah should have had executed in 1964, as well as the Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia.

What you refer to as my supporting Zionists is inaccurate. I support the right of a sovereign country to defend itself from aggressors, whether from within that country's borders or from outside of those borders. You wish to see the IDF's actions as an offensive move, as an act of aggression. I see it as a response to continued terrorism by Hamas as well as a prophylactic measure against future acts of terror by them.

If Hamas or Hezbollah has even a shred of legitimacy, while you believe Israel is not, then explain why Hamas members cover their entire face behind the keffiyeh in their videos.

I do not blame Hamas for what they have become, for what they were, what they are, and what they will always be are:

Terrorists.

Jenabe Kaveh

Kaveh in another article you said: "I only wish that Mohammad Reza Shah had rounded up and executed all of these Arab-parast gangsters, especially the Indian."
(//iranian.com/main/singlepage/2008/i-hear...)

Jenabe Kaveh, you seem to be convinced that with killing or "obliteration" all the political issues can be solved. That does not work! Neither the Zionists in general (except for Zion probably?) nor many others think that fascism works.

GRAPHIC

//www.informationclearinghouse.info/headline9...

capt_ayhab [-YT]

kaveh jan

lets not turn this into a personal issue. i felt that there was a logical inconsistency in your approach. i wasn't trying to say that hezbollah were palestinians. i think you misunderstand their politics. of all the lebanese leaders, nasrallah has acted like the most secular when it comes to power structures in lebanon. he wants the constitution secularised.  also in the 2005 elections, they won over 80% of local elections. they really are very popular in lebanon, and all the scaremongering about them is just that: scaremongering. when the civil war was ended, it was agreed that the constitution would be amended to remove its sectarian structure. this has never been done and the shia are comprehensively kept out of the power structure. they will not stand for it.

as for hamas, yes they are much more dubious, their charter stinks (it is written like the ugly violent language one finds in most holy books) and they are directly an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood in egypt. but they were supported by israel deliberately to undermine the PLO. they have grown strong roots in gaza, and they very fairly and squarely won the elections in both gaza and the west bank. once you are elected, you cannot be ignored as a 'terrorist'. if that was the case, all of israel's early leaders would have been terrorists too. now hamas is there. it is a reality and it has wide support in gaza. you cannot call for them and/or their supporters to be eradicated. instead, they must be negotiated with as they have some legitimacy.

all of this radicalization is in my opinion the direct result of 2 important factors:

1. secular leaders in the region have proven to be corrupt, inept and powerless especially against colonial invasions

2. israel, by its very religious exclusiveness and apartheid policies has since its inception sown the seeds of modern religious fundamentalism in the region, and this has been gaining greater support since 1948

blaming hamas for being what it has become mainly because of zionism while you support the zionists (or their military's ability to smash hamas) is a contradiction.

if none of this is convincing to you, then i respect that. and would leave it at that.

Peace!

Niloufar

For God's sake, stop being naieve, and please don't take me for a fool.

Hamas and Hezbollah stopped being resistance movements the moment they began strapping plastic explosives to clueless people who were filled with delusions of six dozen virgins as an incentive to detonate themselves.

Hamas and Hezbollah do not represent any "side". There are two sides to this issue and two sides only. Israel and the Palestinian Authority, led (or misled, depending on your view) by Mahmoud Abbas. The PA or PNA is the only legitimate side opposite the Israeli side,

Hamas and Hezbollah have the singular interest to destroy Israel entirely and establish an Islamic state in the area. Not just the areas known as Gaza and the West Bank, but Israel proper also.

Additionally, do not try and twist my words to suit the context you desire to read into. I have never called for the destruction of the Palestinian people. But Hamas and Hezbollah are a different story. Both of these entities you call "resistance groups" have declared tha they will not cease until Israel is eliminated.

So you want fascists? There are your fascists. Hamas & Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is a Lebanese entity, by the way, and Hamas is an offshoot of an Egyptian miltant group. So the idea that they are Palestinian is utter nonsense.

When Israel disengaged from Gaza in 2005, what did Hamas do? They fought with Fatah. Hamas is consumed by bloodlust. They're just a bunch of killers who don't care who they have in their crosshairs. If you cannot see them for what they truly are, there's not much I can do except shake my head in amazement.

Noah's Daughter (to Niloufar)

Niloufar, when I first saw our friend here I thought she would increase the understanding between us and the Israelis, and would teach us about some of their democratic values, ... etc.
Needless to say that the opposite happened, our friend has learned some of our bad values!

As we say in Persian:

pesare_nooh bA badAn beneshast, {in this case dokhtare_nooh}
khAndane nabovvatash gom shod! {in this case gomo_gor shod}

Anonym7

i was just watching one of these israeli politicians using the word 'unavoidable' about civilian casualties in Gaza. we are asked to 'believe' that these guys had 'no' option other than to murder and injure thousands of people.

fascist flavours abound indeed. they don't even realise how similar they all are.

Kaveh:

i saw you trying to retract from your position a little there, but you ended up with your ego taking over your logic. you cannot call for the annihilation of any group just because you do not agree with them. if anything, it is the other side - israel - that resembles the nazis, not hamas or hezbollah. these are genuine resistance movements that came out of 60 years of plunder, expansionism and bombardment by israel.

lets not call for the total destruction of any side, and if you do, do not pretend that They are the fascists, coz that would be you, not them.

Peace!

fascists of all flavors! (to Niloufar)

Niloufar, I told one of these kaleh_pooks sometime ago how much she reminded me of Sunni type fanatics that I met in university (in the U.S) during mid nineties. ..... it is amazing how similar the fascists of all flavors are!

Sorry haji

I see nothing but usual name callings, empty mottos and whining about 1967. But don't give up, I'm sure you can do better next time.

To all Zionists

Here an article written by Avi Shlaim in The Guardian. Avi served in Tsahal, the Israeli army, and is actually a professor of international relations at the University of Oxford.


Zion, you searched responses to your questions ?... Here you are, Enjoy!

... The Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip in the aftermath of the June 1967 war had very little to do with security and everything to do with territorial expansionism...

... Gaza is a classic case of colonial exploitation in the post-colonial era. Jewish settlements in occupied territories are immoral, illegal and an insurmountable obstacle to peace...

...Cheek by jowl with these foreign intruders, the majority of the local population lived in abject poverty and unimaginable misery. Eighty per cent of them still subsist on less than $2 a day. The living conditions in the strip remain an affront to civilised values, a powerful precipitant to resistance and a fertile breeding ground for political extremism...

Gaza, however, is not simply a case of economic under-development but a uniquely cruel case of deliberate de-development.

Gaza was converted overnight into an open-air prison.

Israel likes to portray itself as an island of democracy in a sea of authoritarianism. Yet Israel has never in its entire history done anything to promote democracy on the Arab side and has done a great deal to undermine it.

As so often in the tragic history of Palestine, the victims were blamed for their own misfortunes.

mighty Israel claims to be the victim of Palestinian aggression but the sheer asymmetry of power between the two sides leaves little room for doubt as to who is the real victim.

Hamas is not an entirely innocent party in this conflict. Denied the fruit of its electoral victory and confronted with an unscrupulous adversary, it has resorted to the weapon of the weak - terror. Militants from Hamas and Islamic Jihad kept launching Qassam rocket attacks against Israeli settlements near the border with Gaza until Egypt brokered a six-month ceasefire last June. The damage caused by these primitive rockets is minimal but the psychological impact is immense, prompting the public to demand protection from its government.

The figures speak for themselves. In the three years after the withdrawal from Gaza, 11 Israelis were killed by rocket fire. On the other hand, in 2005-7 alone, the IDF killed 1,290 Palestinians in Gaza, including 222 children.

Whatever the numbers, killing civilians is wrong. This rule applies to Israel as much as it does to Hamas, but Israel's entire record is one of unbridled and unremitting brutality towards the inhabitants of Gaza. Israel also maintained the blockade of Gaza after the ceasefire came into force which, in the view of the Hamas leaders, amounted to a violation of the agreement.

It is difficult to see how starving and freezing the civilians of Gaza could protect the people on the Israeli side of the border.

The brutality of Israel's soldiers is fully matched by the mendacity of its spokesmen.

The core messages of this directorate to the media are that Hamas broke the ceasefire agreements; that Israel's objective is the defence of its population; and that Israel's forces are taking the utmost care not to hurt innocent civilians. Israel's spin doctors have been remarkably successful in getting this message across. But, in essence, their propaganda is a pack of lies.

And far from taking care to spare civilians, Israel is guilty of indiscriminate bombing and of a three-year-old blockade that has brought the inhabitants of Gaza, now 1.5 million, to the brink of a humanitarian catastrophe.

No amount of military escalation can buy Israel immunity from rocket attacks from the military wing of Hamas.

The problem with Israel's concept of security is that it denies even the most elementary security to the other community.

This brief review of Israel's record over the past four decades makes it difficult to resist the conclusion that it has become a rogue state with "an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders".

It keeps compounding the mistakes of the past with new and more disastrous ones. Politicians, like everyone else, are of course free to repeat the lies and mistakes of the past. But it is not mandatory to do so.

Niloufar

If you were to have a grievance with your next door neighbor, how do you go about airing that grievance and working towards a resolution?

Please understand this so that there is no misunderstanding.

The Palestinian people have a grievance. I do not begrudge the Palestinian people anything. They are entitled to the right, not just to merely exist, but to live and to thrive and to prosper.

Again, I must emphasize that I am referring to the Palestinian people. That is to say, the peaceful, decent, honorable civilian population that were given the opportunity 60 years ago by the Balfour Declaration to establish an independent nation where one didn't exist, and where it still doesn't exist today, thanks to the efforts of groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.

The Palestinian people have every right to freedom, and a nation and self-rule. But please do not equate that right with what you construe to be the right of Hamas and Hezbollah to fire rockets into Israel, or to don a vest fashioned from plastic explosives and detonate it in order to kill Israeli civilians for some Arabic porno fantasy about 72 virgins and the will of Allah, while pretending to be some kind of political party.

If I were to build a school or a hospital in Gaza or the West Bank, dispense medicine and food and such to the local population, that doesn't give me the right to build a bunker in their house to store rockets, or a the right to build a rocket launcher in their child's bedroom next to their LEGO sets and their poster of Michael Jackson when he was actually black.

The true charlatans are Hamas and Hezbollah, who claim to be fighting for Palestinian freedom, when the majority of their members aren't even Palestinian themselves.

There are Palestinians that I know, and have worked with, who lost homes and property to the Israelis who say that Hamas and Hezbollah are the problem. 

So, please e-mail me my papers so that I may sign and say I'm a fascist.

Real Peace

We have a jewel here!

'it Is fascist! you are totally dismissing the right to life and security of hamas, hezbollah, and their supporters...'

No comment.

kaveh

it Is fascist! you are totally dismissing the right to life and security of hamas, hezbollah and their supporters, and you Know they have many supporters. it is a fascist attitude that you display. why are you so totally dismissive of their grievances and experiences that you even deny them the right to physical existence? this is a common characteristic among extremist zionists, al qaeda, hamas, AIPAC, PNAC, and the extremists within IRI. they all look quite similar in their methods. it is very basiji and charlatan-like.

Peace!

Exactly

Very well said. Can't agree more Kaveh.

Anon7

If my comment makes me an Iranian fascist in your eyes, then you honestly don't know what fascism really is. What do you suggest be done with Hamas and Hezbollah? Shall we invite them over for tea and cookies?

I think I have made it very clear that the loss of life among Palestinian civilians is tremendous, and I abhor it. These people have done nothing to deserve the day in and day out bombardment they have been enduring.

But you might not get it: Hamas and Hezbollah, who may very well be running social programs for these people, are also the ones who are launching rockets into Israel. Rockets that they store in civilian neighborhoods. In basements of houses, in apartment buildings, in shops and businesses.

Hamas and Hezbollah are not a sovereign entity. Despite whatever number of political seats they may hold, they are not a sovereign state. If they were legit, they wouldn't have to hide rockets in someone's garage. They wouldn't have to hide their faces while delivering speeches on a propaganda video.

White people in the South looked at the KKK as a social-political entity too, while they would lynch blacks, burn crosses and such. They were hiding their faces as well. The only difference: the KKK wanted to kill all the blacks, while Hamas and Hezbollah want to kill all the Jews.

As much as my hopes are futile, I don't want to see Palestinian civilians killed. I want to see Hamas and Hezbollah destroyed.

If that's fascist.......I'll sign the papers right now.

Silence is Complicity We're All War Criminals Now

[The
Israelis are using a new type of very high explosive weapons which are
called Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME) and are made out of a
tungsten alloy. These weapons have an enormous power to explode."

"these weapons will have a cancer effect on those who survive. They will develop cancer we suspect."

"All that is happening in Gaza here now is against international law, it is against humanity".....]

//www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&...

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Dear Kaveh

Fair enough.We all have our opinions about various politicians, and as well know, all of them have problems of their own. I disagree with you about Sharon, I think we were extremely unlucky to lose him in such times as these. My point however was not about either of our takes on different politicians, but that you refereed to the video when it was a clear and shameless collection of fabrications. Propaganda is not the same thing as outright fabrications to instigate hate against a people. You emphasize points you want to make in a propaganda, but to lie outright is not acceptable, and such level of duplicity in that case is by no means as matter of fact as you make it. One should not give an iota of legitimacy or credibility to such attempts. There is a line below which we all have to speak out no matter where we stand. That was all I was saying,

our own Iranian fascists!?

Kaveh Nouraee says: "..and would like nothing more than to see the IDF smash them into a billion pieces once and for all instead of just toying with them the way a cat toys with a mouse."

Our own "Iranian" fascists are not any better than the extremist Zionists, if anything, they are worse!

Israel puts media clamp on Gaza

//www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/world/middleeast...

NOW the NY Times is spewing out against it...so it seems. Barring the
media from covering this has only one reason..Israel is hiding one of
the most horrific humanitarian crisis ever that it has brought down on
the Palestinians people, as reported by many humanitarian
organizations, most recently the Red Cross.

Just for all to know, NY Times is one of Israeli's biggest puppets and propaganda tools. 

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Zion

All propaganda is based on falsehoods. That's why they don't call it the truth.

I thought you knew by now that I loathe what Hamas and Hezbollah are doing and would like nothing more than to see the IDF smash them into a billion pieces once and for all instead of just toying with them the way a cat toys with a mouse.

But I would be lying if I told you that I have any love for Ariel Sharon. People like him on the Israeli side of the issue did nothing to endear the Israelis to anyone. Instead of a kaffiyeh he wore a yarmulke, but the evil was the same. I have no doubt in my mind that when Sharon went to Temple Mount, he knew exactly what the reaction would be and was in fact counting on it in order to justify more IDF action.

Of course, being as ignorant as they are, they fell for it completely and reacted exactly the way Sharon wanted them to react. A Hollywood sceenwriter couldn't have scripted it better.

But thankfully, Sharon is no longer a factor. And while there are still some extremist views coming from some of the key players in Tel Aviv, and while I hate to see civilians getting maimed and killed, and I feel terrible for those who have been, I really would like to see the IDF just completely obliterate Hamas and Hezbollah. Anyone who thiks that they are legitimate political parties are just fooling themselves, because we all know that legitimate political parties don't issue videos with a guerrilla militant holding an automatic rifle and covering his entire face with a kaffiyeh. If they were indeed legit, they wouldn't have any reason to hide behind anything at all.

Israeli shelling kills dozens at UN school in Gaza

[....The civilian death toll in Gaza
increased dramatically today, with reports of more than 40 Palestinians
killed after missiles exploded outside a UN school where hundreds of
people were sheltering from the continuing Israeli offensive.

Two
Israeli tank shells struck the school in Jabaliya refugee camp,
spraying shrapnel on people inside and outside the building, according
to news agency reports.....]

This genocidal actions of Israeli army must be stoped.............

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Zion

Your paranoia of hearing the TRUTH has caused you to become delusional. Now you are claiming everything is fabrication. Get real my friend and pull your head out of sand. How long did you think world was going to believe every and all LIES Israel has been feeding it?????

What about shelling of school last night, which killed 3 children??? is that a fabrication as well??

What about Belgium Doctors interview which says over 100 Civilian, mostly children been killed??? fabrication as well???

you arrogance and audacity is beyond any human dignity.

-YT

Israel has a right to defend itself, but...

Israel has a right to defend itself, but its actions are (as usual) disproportionate and causing too much un-necessary civilian casualties. And at the end, Israel will end up strenthening Hammas and leaving with its tails between its legs; just like happened in south Lebanon last year! 

Hassan Nasrollah beat Israel last year with a tiny fraction of Israel's military might but with several times their smarts and political savvy!

Israelis have not proven to be very good politicians and strategists!

And finally, there is something called humanity and fairness. 500+ casualties vs. 5 or 6 doesn't compute under any circumstances. So, Israel is bound to lose the propaganda war and as I said before, leave with its tails between legs!

Molavi’s elephant

This discussion reminds me of a certain poem by the great Persian poet Molavi
Who says once upon a time they have put an elephant in a dark room and asked people to go into the room and try to describe how an elephant looks like just by feeling it.

The first one went in and touched it hack and came out to claim that an elephant is like a flat bed, the second one touched its feet and claimed that it is like a set of columns, the other one touched its trunk and claimed elephant is like a long pipe and so one and so forth

Each one believed that all the others were wrong and he was right. Although each and every claim had and element of truth in it, none of them was totally right.

In the end Molavi says if they have only had a source of light in their hand then they could see the whole truth.

However in real life and complex issues like the one being discussed here finding that source of light is less straightforward. That is why one needs to be able to put the truth together by using all the evidence available, just like constructing a jigsaw puzzle. So, in order to find out who is to blame for all this misery I believer we need to look for whoever benefits from this mayhem mostly (and by the way that is in both sides of the divide), or in the simple words of and old friend “just follow the trail of money and power”.

In order to do this we all need to first keep hold of our emotions and try to think with our heads and not our guts. Of course any half descent human being with a fraction of conscience would be outraged by what is happening in Gaza. However this misery is just a symptom of a much greater problem that goes far beyond the borders of Gaza or even Israel and until that cause is not addressed we will find our selves in the same position again and again and again

To get a better prospective of the situation one needs to take a step back and try to think out of the box. Just think about it for a moment. You and I are just a bunch ordinary bloggers without any proper political and military training and yet we all know what Israel did in Lebanon or is doing in Gaza today could never get anybody closer to peace. In the same way until Hamas stops rocket attacks on innocent civilians, it can get no piece. Hamas leaders have to learn to live with a powerful Israel as their neighbour and try to make piece with it. Furthermore we are not alone in thinking this way. Every world media, humane right activist and peace negotiating expert is echoing the very same concern. So the question remains that WHY. Why don’t they government not change its strategy? Even if Lebanon was a mistake Israel did not learn from it and are repeating the same mistake Gaza again. Don’t you think that Israel might also have its own experts and analysts, in fact the best ones that their money can buy? And as we know the Israelis are not short money. So why repeat the same mistake. On the other hand the same question could be asked from Hamas. When did vicious militarism and terrorism pay in term of viable permanent piece. what did the people of Gaza whom they are claiming to support gained from all their actions, except hardship, misery, death and destruction. What is the reason that although they see the relative calm and improvement of life in West Bank they refuse to follow the Fattah example. Do they really think that by intimidating a government and country 100 times more powerful than themselves the can bully it into agreeing with all their terms or are they stupid enough to think that they can wipe Israel of the world’s map
Observing all this, one question that kept coming into my mind and kept bothering be for a long time was that may be just may be none of these parties are really interested in a lasting peace at all. And that is what brings me to my next point.
In order to know if the government like Israel or parties like Hamas and Hezbollah are really interested in peace one needs to understand the nature of these parties. If you look closer you can see that all these parties are none democratic extremists in their own fields who more often are not even qualified to be in their current post.
People like Sharon and Olmert could have never came to power in a normal Israel that is in peace with her neighbours and hence the extremist Zionists would have lost ground to the more moderate forces in no time. In the same way in a peaceful independent Palestine or Lebanon there is no room for theocrat extremists like Hasan Nasrollah or Khaled Mashal who do not even have the expertise to run a corner shop let alone a country and its government.
On the other hand local dictators like IRI, Saddam, Gazafi, Asad family and others having so many different problems at home and abroad, always need a diversion to take their own people and human right activist’s attention off their own actions.
These governments have constantly interfered and exploited the situation, not because they give a damn about those poor children who were being bombed into pieces, but in order to provoke the anger and emotions of their own people and divert their attention from their own short comes and misdeeds.
As an example I can mention the Iranian government who at the same time as Israeli plains started to bomb Gaza and world and specially IRI’s media started to put all their focus there, they have very quietly taken a new legislation to Majlis in order to stop paying subsidies on essential goods such as bread petrol sugar and many more. If this legislation passes through the Majlis the buying power of ordinary Iranians will be cut by 75% over night and IRI can save its skin and avoid another financial crisis by saving a lot of money. This would happen while people like you and me are tearing each others head off over an issue which we can not do much about and even from the view of parties involved, is none of our business anyway. Now I am not a great believer in coincident but don’t you think that is to much of a coincident?
And of course the last but not the least is the Western governments, oil industry and weapon manufacturers who would benefit immensely from a Middle East in chaos and although their leaders like Brown, Bush and others pay a lot of lip service to the cause of peace process in the region they thrive on the war and instability. This is because as the chaos and mistrust grows the cooperation takes a plunge and with it takes the price of oil. On the other hand all the states on the region being scared and distrustful of each other start to spend what ever little money they have left from the sale of oil on useless expensive weapons. As an example I can mention the lasted $10B deal with Imarets who bought a number of F18 jet fighters. Now the funny think is that they do not even have the place to keep or fly them because of the fact that as soon as these plains take off from the Dubai airport they leave Imarets aerospace and become a legitimate target. Now you can imagine how stupid that deal is. However at the time of crisis scared people do daft things.
So as you see this is a vicious circle of different chain links which strengthen and feed from each other. And although they pretend to be enemies they serve each other’s purpose perfectly and coexist happily. Now the question is what are we to do about it.
We can spent the rest of eternity running around this vicious circle and passing the bucket of blame from one party to another without getting any where. We can spend the rest of out life crying for Palestinian cause or Israeli right which dose not get us anywhere either. In here I would like to remind you from a certain phrase by Martin Luter Ming who said
Love without power in a mere sentimentality however love plus power is equals justice
This is why we need to have a strategy in order to find the weakest link of this chain from our own prospective and focus all our effort into breaking that link and hence opening or reducing the strength of this circle of death and violence.
For us as Iranians, now and today this link is noting but IRI and its very existence. Its interference in other people’s business and creating mayhem in out expense
At the moment IRI is at its weakest as it has reached a dead end in all its policies including economical, political. Domestic and international. Furthermore internal fighting between its different factions and wide spread corruption have made it weaker than ever. However the mullahs know the only way for them to get out of this crisis is to start another war. Because as we all know at times of war people rally around their leaders and tend to forget their shortcomings. They have already tried three times to start this war. The first time was last summer when they captured the British sailors. The second time was a few month ago when the deliberately left a stash of weapons with revolutionary guards mark in Iraq to be found by US. This is their third attempt to get Israel into a war. But in all occasions they were unsuccessful. This is because that although these parties cooperate and strengthen each other, they each have different stakes and priorities. For example Israel is not interested in a full scale war with a large country such as Iran as they know it is not easily manageable but what they are interested in is small proxy wars like a bombing here a small invasion there and few days of shelling in the other place, in order to keep their people on their tows and force them into keeping the current party in power.
So at this moment of time our first priority should be putting our own house in order by sorting out the Mullahs issue ones and for all, before they succeed and destroy what ever is left of out country in another devastating war. Removal of the Mullah’s link means less support and weakening of Hamas and this in turn means less excuse and publicity for war mongering extremists in Israeli side. This would open the way significantly for the moderates on both side of the divide to come together and try to find a way out of the current mess
But of course for the ordinary Palestinians and Israelis have also a duty to try to take the control back from the extreme elements within their own governments, community and parties like Hamas and other theocrats. However that is their internal affairs and we have no right to interfere.
As I told you life is about priorities strategy and plan, now you either have got it and will succeed or do not have it and keep running amount the same circle for the rest of eternity

Your call

Kashani

I'm wondering what Iran would be alike with you at the head of the state and Zion your shamshir-zan

‫روز تو هرگز به ایمان سعد و میمون کی شود
چون تو بر ابلیس ملعون, خویشتن مفتون کنی؟

Who are these people?

Saddam, Arafat, Sheikh Yasin, Hasan Nasrollah, Sharon, Begin, Natanyaaaahooooo, Ehud, Tzipi, Shimon, mouse dayan, Massoud Rajavi, Maryam Rajavi, Khomeini, Khalkhali, Khamenei, Rafsanjani, Antarinejad, Larijani, Haddad naa Adel, ...

Who are these people?

Are these all one person with different name or are they different characters? They all seem to have pretty much the same idea about "Iran". None cares about iran, but only care about their ideology that they refer to by different names: islam, felestin, esraeel, iraq, mojahed, ....

They all look the same to me! None are "iranian", that is the only thing that matters. How can we get rid of all these characters and leave iran for "iranians" to get on with their lives without any help from all these pretenders?

Thanks Farhad

For your courage and for your good soul.
I sincerely wish the Iranian students and the Iranian people which those students speak for, ultimate victory. They will always have my deepest respect. They will always have the deepest respect of all the Jewish people.