The True Story

Israel is engaged in limited precision strike counter attacks to protect her citizens

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The True Story
by Zion
02-Jan-2009
 

We have seen an unprecedented but expected propaganda attack against Israel in recent days going over to pure anti-semitic hatred every once in a while. Israel is being condemned for protecting her citizens against continuous rocket strikes and provocations by Hamas, and as usual being charged for "crimes" she has not committed. As the one-sided propaganda against Israel is being waged on all fronts, including on this website, it is important not to forget that there is another side to all this that is being deliberately ignored, silenced and covered up by the sheer amount of one sided attacks. Here are some videos and articles that tell Israel's side of the story, for those who seek the truth over propaganda, and fairness and rationality over hatred and bias, so that they can see both sides of the conflict and make their own minds based on reality.

Israel is engaged in limited precision strike counter attacks to protect her citizens, as any other responsible state is expected to do in face of months of assault by its enemies on her territory. There is a common trend meant to down play Hamas constant attacks on Israeli civilian and residential population. Reality on the ground for Israeli families that have to live under constant attack is quite different:

//sderot.aish.com/SderotPetitions/15Seconds.p...
//www.yourish.com/2008/12/24/5801
//www.israellycool.com/2008/12/24/todays-rock...
//www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11274369.html
//www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11274793.html
//sderotmedia.com/

Despite common claims, Israel is not bombing Gaza's residential areas indiscriminately. The targets are terrorist head quarters, missile launchers and smuggling tunnels. Most are deliberately hidden in among residential areas by Hamas to increase civilian casualty. Israel does its best to avoid civilian death by precision strikes:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCVr7MBhgj0&feature...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvWTom7UUFw&feature...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iRJuFyqSrs&feature...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNv-ro4XMxI&feature...

Examples of Israeli humanitarian aid to Gaza:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pof1y7tlCIM&feature...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOyLbwLudEU&feature...

Expert Opinion:

//terrorwonk.blogspot.com/2008/12/managing-ga...

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I hope the Islamist of the IRI get what the Hamas is getting now

by IranIrooni (not verified) on

Because they deserve the same type of treatment. I truly wish these basiji scum and their supporters who mistreat Iranians on a daily basis get the same bombs dropped on them. May it happen sooner than later.


Q

Fred, why is Israel using "Islamist mentality"?

by Q on

Since Islamists’ mentality requires killing opponents without batting an eye

???

and from the looks of things there is much more "Islamist mentality" in Israel than in Gaza. I would say about a ratio of 100:1.

Funny isn't it?

My reply to this so called "article" is here:
//iranian.com/main/blog/q/bullies-are-del...


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Fred, It's the Genocidal Regime of Israel who

by zionist detector (not verified) on

is the subject of this crime against humanity. If IRI does the same then you can open your mouth about IRI. It's not IRI who has killed 3 Palestinian children today on top of hundred others that have been killed by this vicious regime.
There 2 or 3 zionists on this website plus 1 or 2 "Weak Links". Who are the Weak Links you say? They're the ones who are so full of hate that are used by zion. They a tool in the tool box of zionist on this website.


Fred

Twisted mentality

by Fred on

Islamist says:  I know how many people here hate IRI with a passion, consider it "terrorist" and would probably not feel bad about killing Islamic Republic leaders. But how many of even those people would line up Iranian police officers and execute them in the streets? That's what Israel did the other day. They called them "HAMAS officials".

Since Islamists’ mentality requires killing opponents without batting an eye they think all others think and act like them, this musing of “would probably not feel bad about killing Islamic Republic leaders “is false. As is the rest of the indoctrinated analogy, the very same supposed Hamas police officers were killing their brother Palestinian Fatah police officers, civilian sympathizers and functionaries in droves not that long ago. Recent history is hard to deny as is casting doubts about the terrorist nature of the Islamist republic’s officials by putting terrorist in quotation mark.


Hajminator

Distortion of reality (Definition):

by Hajminator on

Erroneous thinking that disrupts one's life; can be contradicted by the client's objective appraisal of the situation.


Kaveh Nouraee

Q

by Kaveh Nouraee on

When you blow up buses, cafes, and other civilian gathering places, you're a terrorist. That's what Hamas does, thanks to IRI money.

When you call for the destruction of Israel, as Hamas still does in their charter, do you expect the Israelis to invite them over for a felafel?


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In Search of Zion

by Anonymous. (not verified) on

Why did the Israelis fund Hamas? Are they seeking to use emotions as some way to manipulate the situation? The most powerful weapon against such tactics is peace. There are more important matters to be concerned with in terms of improving world governance. Utopia is a scam. The struggle is for show.


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Israel's tactic is to dispatch its supporters to distribute

by Anonymous-2 (not verified) on

propaganda or what they like to term public PR campaign! This is Zion's assignment.

Too bad for Zion and the Zionist State they are targeting the wrong people. We didn't need this seige on Gaza and the massive bombing to formulate our opinion about what Israel's real intentions are.

The history of all of Israel's provocation to force the Palestinians to respond in order to play the victim game and demonize the other side, as sub-human, as terrorists is well understood.

All we hear is "Hamas, Hamas, Hamas". None of this has anything to do with Hamas, Hezbullah, rockets, or the rest of the well oil propaganda that Israel likes to use in order to brainwash people. The simple fact is Israel has occupied the Palestinian terrority and has no desire to give an inch of it back, has no interest of respecting the rights to an independent state for the Palestinian people.

Israel will accept no authority in the Palestinian territories that it does not ultimately control. Any individual, leader, faction or movement that fails to accede to Israel’s demands or that seeks genuine sovereignty and the equality of all nations in the region; any government or popular movement that demands the applicability of international humanitarian law and of the universal declaration of human rights for its own people will be unacceptable for the Jewish State.


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Israel's killing machine is paid for by us the American taxpayer

by zionist detector (not verified) on

The Fantom jets, the bombs, helicopters are all provided to this vicious anti-human regime by us the tax payers.

For those who wonder why the US government blindly supports Israeli terrorists, an answer can be found in the research which points to the Zionist Israeli control of US government, as documented in The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy By John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt.

//www.ccun.org/Documents/The%20Israel%20Lobby...


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Kaveh, who is a terrorist?

by Q on

Let's say you're right HAMAS people are guilty and should be killed by 1 ton bombs from state of the art fighter planes supplied by US tax dollars.

People have been convicted in courts for crimes against humanity, not for killing people themselves but because they allowed massacres to occur when they could have stopped it.

Is it reasonable to assume that civilians will die when targeting a "safe house" in an appartment complex? If the answer is Yes, that means a war crime was committed.

Ask yourself this would the US government target a safe house in the middle of Manhattan? Even if Bin Laden was there?

But also, who is HAMAS? It is the elected government of Palestine. It runs schools, roads, government buildings, trash collection, driving busses, keeping security.

I know how many people here hate IRI with a passion, consider it "terrorist" and would probably not feel bad about killing Islamic Republic leaders.

But how many of even those people would line up Iranian police officers and execute them in the streets?

That's what Israel did the other day. They called them "HAMAS officials".


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Truth a la zionist...

by Ajam (not verified) on

I guess "truth" as per zionists is "truth" a la Nazis! This piece (with such a dumb title) doesn't even measure up to the Nazi propaganda!

Hamas "hides" among civilians because they live among civilians, they are the people of Gaza. If Gazans had an army, barracks, missile launching sites... and they still hid among civilians and carried out atacks, then Hamas would've been considered an insurgent group. But when a democraticly elected government is deprived of having the basic necessities to sustain the livlihood of 1.6 million people and not even able to control its own borders, what choice have they been given?! Wait to be nuetered like PLO?!

What I see from today's world is that a nation without a country is not entitled to self defence, let alone an army!


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Hypocrites!!!

by Anonymiss (not verified) on

Great post Zion. You couldn't be more right. It's obvious that plenty of posters here have no means of logic and don't understand what critical thinking is. Hamas uses it's own people as human shields, and they want death.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs

Plus the reaction from the Muslim world is hypocritical! You're all a bunch of phonies pretending to care about human rights, since if that was the case you would be marching for those in Darfur, and for non-Muslim minorities persecuted by Muslims,d Muslims suffering in their own country. Lets not forget the human rights abuses against Bahia's, Christians, Kurds, Assyrians, Copts, Zoroastrians and others.

//www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=94


Kaveh Nouraee

Palestinians ARE human beings

by Kaveh Nouraee on

But this isn't a war on Palestinians, Saman. It's a war against Hamas and Hezbollah. What complicates matters is that these terrorists are mixed in with the general population in Gaza and the West Bank and in Southern Lebanon. They have gained the trust of the locals with their so-called "humanitarian" gestures.

Another key difference, which I know will unfortunately be lost on so many of those who simply cannot see past their hatred of Jews and Israel:

When these terrorists attack, they target civilian areas. Shops, markets, restaurants, cafes. They deliberately attack unarmed civilians.

When the IDF retaliates, they target safe houses, headquarters, various places that these specific terrorist operatives are located, ostensibly planning new "missions". Unfortunately, tragically, Palestinian civilians are often killed and maimed....again because these terrorist targets are mixed in with the general population.

The loss of life is indeed tragic......but it is Hamas and Hezbollah who need to be held accountable first.


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Zion,you can not legitimise Israeli action!

by Anonymous iranian (not verified) on

I am not anti Semite or anti Israel or pro Palestinian,but from what I see it looks to me that Israel is not interested in peace.She can not live in peace with others.Even when Arab countries proposed to Israel to recognize her in return for peace,she rejected the offer.


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Truth a la zionist...

by Ajam (not verified) on

I guess "truth" as per zionists is "truth" a la Nazis! This piece (with such a dumb title) doesn't even measure up to the Nazi propaganda!

Hamas "hides" among civilians because they live among civilians, they are the people of Gaza. If Gazans had an army, barracks, missile launching sites... and they still hid among civilians and carried out atacks, then Hamas would've been considered an insurgent group. But when a democraticly elected government is deprived of having the basic necessities to sustain the livlihood of 1.6 million people and not even able to control its own borders, what choice have they been given?! Wait to be castrated like PLO?!

What I see from today's world is that a nation without a country is not entitled to self defence, let alone an army!


aaminian

Zion

by aaminian on

I am sure by now you've read the comments on this post many times over.  I am also sure that you are thinking about a comeback commentary of your own trying to justify the massacre committed by your Zionist regime in Gaza. 

Regardless of what your response will be it WON'T change the opinion of the majority of people on this site. You should NOT forget who your target audience is!  You may be able to fool the average midwest farmer who still thinks Saddam was the mastermind behind 911 attacks. We Iranians, on the other hand, are a bunch of smart and politically-savvy people. Heck, Iranians have the highest percentage of eudcated minorities in the US. So, please, please, please save your precision-guided discussion for the farmer.

One other thing, Zion, why is it so important for you what Iranians think of Israel?!  Is our disapproval of your illegitimate government eating away at your very core?  Take it easy man; not everyone has to like you.  Get over it!


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Thank you Zion!

by IraniIrooni (not verified) on

Thank you for showing us just how selfish and hypocritical israel is. Thanks for providing us with an objective analysis, LOL. Thanks for showing us that propaganda and falso mktg via providing links here and links there are such legitimate acts. Thanks for all of this ... in other words, thanks for nothing.

I'm not a terrorist supporter, but I do see two terrorists at work, israel's IDF (or the entire govt) and the Hamas. Israel represents beautifully executed "state-sponsored" terrorism. And Hamas is just Hamas. Many Americans may not believe this, but the Hamas actually stood by their word. It was not until israel put in a blockade that drove Hamas to not only not renew the truce, but also fire the rockets. You see, israel didn't care about peace or Hamas' DEMOCRATIC win. Israel just doesn't want Hamas there. Israel, as any human being with common sense, knew that continuing blockades will ignite the Hamas and even non-Hamas Palestinians to retaliate. That's what israel looks for at all times. Instability is the perfect thing for israel as it weakens all of the different arab groups and govts. It worked in Lebonan (which makes you think exactly who was behind those assasinations and attempts), and it worked in Palestine. I guess I view that shyster israel the same way as it views its neighbors ... can never be trusted. If you think about it, that characteristic has been a constant one among those people for hundreds and thousands of yrs ... and that is the truth.


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Truth a la zionist...

by Ajam (not verified) on

I guess "truth" as per zionists, is "truth" a la Nazis! This piece (with such a dumb title) doesn't even measure up to the Nazi propaganda!

Hamas "hides" among civilians because they live among civilians, they are the people of Gaza. If Gazans had an army, barracks, missile launching sites... and they still hid among civilians and carried out atacks, then Hamas would've been considered an insurgent group. But when a democraticly elected government is deprived of having the basic necessities to sustain the livlihood of 1.5 million people and not even able to control its own borders, what choice have they been given?! To be a unuch like PA and the castrated PLO?!

What I see from today's world is that a nation without a country is not entitled to self defence, let alone an army!


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Dehumanization

by Sv1 (not verified) on

The claim that Hamas actually wants to increase the casualty figures among the same population that voted them into power is reminiscent of American claims that the Vietnamese did not actually feel sorrow when family members died because they were not advanced enough as a people to have those feelings.


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Owliaei J. Still in denial I see.......

by YT (not verified) on

Dear Owliaei,

Gaza(Nazi style concentration/death camp) with total total area of 139 square miles and population of 1.5 million, which gives it 10,665 person per each square mile.

Allow me give you a better perspective, this population density translates to 4.2 person per each square METER of land. Can you imagine how many people Israel has crammed into that area??? hope you can. put it in layman's term, Gaza is worlds most highly populated piece of land.

Point of the matter is, your mentality somehow allows you to think if one points out the atrocities committed by indiscriminate bombardment of such a highly populated area, by Israeli's will give its way to condoning actions committed by Hamas.

Well sir/madam, that is not a true assumption in your part. Israel, through her established APARTHEID system in the area, is THE responsible party for the creation of Hamas. You can hold any other party responsible for creation of Hamas till you are blue in the face but it will not change the facts.

In Past 8 years, particularly in past 6 months, Israel has RUTHLESSLY and SHAMELESSLY blockaded the area:
1.Cut off water to residents
2.Cut off electricity
3.Blocked of medical supplies
4.Allowed enough food in for gradual starvation of population.
5. Deported UN humanitarian workers from the area
6. Block unbiased reporters from the area.
etc.... etc.... etc

Yes I do condemn Hamas actions as much as I condemn Israeli thirst for blood. but allow me ask you one question:

What would you do if someone were to lock you up in your house and do not allow you any food, water, medical help?????

Now sir/madam, your denial of the facts is shamefully disgusting and ignorant to say the least.

-YT


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Dear Zion, you are more of an Iranian Patriot

by Khoropoff (not verified) on

Than these radical leftist and Islamist Iranian supporters of the Islamic Republic. These sudden bleeding heart peace lovers are just upset the the Islamic Republic of Iran is losing another puppet and terrorist friend in the area.

Good Work Zion.


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Thank you YT for the video of the Palestinian Holocaust

by Mehrnaz (not verified) on

Dear YT, thank you. It is astounding how someone can watch that video and try to justify the atrocities with the shabby excuse that Hamas fighters were taking shelter amongst civilians. Hamas fighters ARE Palestinians defending their land and community against Israeli occupation. They are elected representatives of Palestinians. The issue is not Islamic extremists versus Jewish people. There would not have been any extremism and fanaticism had it not been for militaristic expansionist policies of the US and Israel. Israel is exposed as the monster it is. Don't be lulled, Zion, by the support you get from western statesmen and right wing pundits. The people of the world hate you. You are doing the most disservice to the Jewish people around the world and the citizens of Israel by advocating and defending such atrocities. The victims of Holocaust turn in their graves with disgust at any association with you. SHAME ON YOU ..


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This is BS. Stop making a fool out of yourself and your country.

by Toofantheoncesogreat (not verified) on

The truce was held by Hamas and Islamic Jihad, the IDF raided Hamas and kidnapped six Hamas members after lifting only 30% of the blokade when they promised to lift all of it causing the deaths of patients with ill conditions in Gaza hospitals, naturally, rockets were fired in retaliation, then came the blockade, then more rockets, then the bombing.

You see Zion, you and your apologist war criminals want us to believe that this war started when the equal war criminal group of Hamas started firing rockets at you, or when Hezbollah kidnapped and killed 8 Israeli soldiers (The Lebanon war)

You always forget to tell how much rape, destruction and injustice you put on people beforehand.

I used to have a neutral stance on your country, but the more I read about what it does and how you try to excuse it with cheap arguments, lies and comments that could be made by over paid Las Vegas lawyers, the less respect I have for your vacation resort you call a country.

If Iran becomes a pure democratic country in the future, I would be ashamed if we had any relations with your government and leaders, or with Hamas. We should just let you beat each other until you learn your lesson. And when 80% of your people support such moronic military adventures, I can only envision a bright future for Israel.

"War is of vital importance to the state" Mr. Tsu

You play with it like if its a game. And who can blame you, when your putting F-16s/Merkava tanks/elite soldiers against quassams, then I bet its a fun game drama queens love playing. Oy Veeeeey


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Hamas is the resistance

by Samy (not verified) on

Your Mahmood Abbas is very much interested on “your Peace proposal” and couldn’t get anything from you. West bank is still occupied and settled as it was before Abbas. These are all your games and trying to attack the victims. One day it was called Arafat, now Hamas and who knows what is the next. You are just infiltrating and misfolding the news.


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Hundreds of thousands demonstrate against Israel all over the wo

by zionist detector (not verified) on

rld and demand sanctions against the savage regime of Tel Aviv. People of the world went to the streets on Friday and showed their hatred towards the criminal zionist regime of Israel for the Genocide of Palestinian people.

Ex-Eurythmics singer Annie Lennox and other celebrities, including activist Bianca Jagger, comedian Alexei Sayle and politicians including former London mayor Ken Livingstone, held a press conference in London demanding Israel halt the onslaught.

In Bern, Switzerland, hundreds of people marched, calling for an immediate cease-fire in Gaza and demanding that the international community impose sanctions against Israel.

People of the world are waking up and standing with Palestinians to defend their rights like any other free nation. This is just the beginnig.


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Kingdom of Jerusalem deja vu!

by Kurush (not verified) on

Kingdom of Jerusalem was the proxy state set up by the crusaders in 1099 AD, after the brutal extermination of the Moslem inhabitatnts & defenders of Jerusalme by the invading Christian crusaders. It was the beginning of the European colonialism in Moslem heartland. Geographically it was coterminous with the current proxy, Israel. Like Israel, it received manpower and supplies from the West, mainly from the Italian ports,- the same ports from which the Jewish settlers began arriving after WWII. Like Israel, with impunity and utter ruthlessness, the Kingdom of Jerusalem made constant forays into Moslem lands, and raided their commercial centers, pilgrims, & their population centers. Moslems were helpless at first, but learned to coalesce and close ranks. In July 1187, at the fateful battle of Hittin, under the command of Saladin, the Moslem army annihilated the crusaders' army. In October 1187, after 88 years of Christian domination, Jerusalem was reconquered by the Moslem Army, which, hence, brought about the final demise of the Kingdom of Jerusalem.


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Quote from Aljezeera.net

by Vince (not verified) on

Abu Ahmed, a spokesman for Islamic Jihad's military wing, the al-Quds Brigades, said that his group had strengthened during the truce.

"During the calm we trained and prepared ourselves for the period after the calm. We will deploy to the front lines along the border and reinforce our positions there with new weapons that we have brought," he said.

This interview was printed December 19, 2008.

I really don't understand how people can claim that Hamas wants a true peaceful settlement with Israel.


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Very funny this article

by Samy (not verified) on

I am sorry but your article is only propaganda. While it is dark there, you are pretending that’s bright. You only need not to occupy/siege their territories then you will see how the Israeli citizens are going to be protected. None of these attacks are justified even if attacks were precise.


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Hamas is not interested in peace with Israel

by Arash Kamangir (not verified) on

Hamas was and will never be interested in peace with Israel and openly they have said many times that they wish the destruction of state of Israel. This leaves Israel no other alternatives but to hit them hard so Hamas gets reduced to nothing. The freedom lovers in West can only wish Israel a lot of success.

Long Live Iran


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zion-ist

by ali123 (not verified) on

I have often read your comments on this site, but I must say, that there's no way to defend this outright cold-blooded murder of people- whomever they may be!
I don't know how u can justify planes against people on the ground as somehow a just response! also, whatever hamas may be, no just or fair government in the world goes out and "assassinates" people and then try to defend it in the eyes of everyone else- you guys are just as bad, if not worse that these "terrorists"- why the heck don't the jews arrest and try these guys???
the fact is that jews have a severe superiority complex, and somehow they feel that they are "better", or as you say it "chosen". IF that is not racism in itself, then I don't know what is.....
remember that you jews owe your asses to the persians and Darius for saving your ancestors from extinction a couple of millenia ago!!