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Young people continue to die in Iran.
In December of 1953 following the coup d’état that overthrew Prime Minister Mohammad Mossedeqh, students of Tehran University staged a protest in response to a visit by then U.S. Vice President Richard Nixon. During the demonstration police shot and killed three students. Today when we read about the deaths of Ahmad Ghandchi, Azar Shariatrazavi, and Mostafa Bozorgnia more than 50 years ago, it isn't hard to see the similarities they had with students today. They were passionately seeking freedom, and they were disturbed by the turn of events involving Great Britain and the U.S. CIA and their interference in Iran.
The Student Movement in Iran today may very well be fighting battles that evolved from the same struggles students in 1953 faced.
Last week once again we saw the face of another young Iranian whose life was cut short by the violent regime of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Ehsan Fattahian like Bahman Jenabi, Ashkan Sohrabi, Neda Agha Soltan, Mehdi Karami,Omidreza Mir Sayafi, Amir Heshmat Saran, Zahra Kazemi, Ebrahim Lotfollahi, Akbar Mohammadi, Ezzat Ebrahim-Nejad, and countless others, is the latest to become a symbol of all that is wrong with human rights in Iran.
The regime knows the power of its youth, and they continue to strike out at the sons and daughters of Iran who are asking for basic human rights. What we know about Iran is that in the last 30 years the youth have increasingly become the strongest voice in a movement to change a cruel and unforgiving government. With more than two-thirds of its population under the age of 30, is there any wonder that fair, democratic elections are out of the question for the Islamic Republic?
Since 1953, 16 Azar (December 7) has been celebrated annually as Students Day in Iran. Though the political climate has seen varying kinds of students participating in the events, the significance of student activism in Iran remains an important way of swaying the politics.
This year, more than any other since 1953, how students show their solidarity for a secular, democratic government in Iran will be key to the movement that came to the forefront following the fixed election in June of this year.
Those of us who are outside the country are watching and waiting, and in truth there are times when it is excrutiating to be out here, and not there among them, and part of the fight. What we can do, what we must continue to do, is to let them know that they have not been forgotten by us. Nothing that happens in the media can take our attention away from the struggle for freedom going on in Iran.
For this we stand, again, and we send a message to our brothers and sisters in Iran that we are with you, and we will not forget.
16 Azar in Berkeley
Sunday, 6 December 2009
3:00 to 6:00 p.m., Pacific Time
UC Berkeley - Bancroft & Telegraph
For more information or to let us know of other locations demonstrating on 16 Azar, call Arash at 510.705.3005, email parsy11@yahoo.com, or find International Alliance of Iranian Students on Facebook by searching for IAIS.
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I don't get it, and I don't care to get it
by truthseeker-33 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:10 AM PSTThe reference to "brutal hermaphrodite" is tiresome at best. We get that you're working the creepy angle with your ridiculous avatar, and also the pseudo-academic speak you try unsuccessfully to interject, but enough already. You obviously have nothing better to do than post irrelevant stream of consciousness replies on this site, but surely you can find a better venue for them--say Facebook where people can at least un-friend you when they are tired of reading your incoherent rambling.
My brutal hermaphrodite
by فغان on Sun Nov 22, 2009 07:47 AM PSTWhen I asked you to provide a tangible evidence in order to prove your claim last time, you went postal; that time literally as well.
If you want to get rid of me, you can simply ask me to go away; sending me to that address was a really cheap shot sort of attempt on my life. When I asked someone (apparently the wrong one) in Tehran, to help me find the address I was almost arrested for blasphemy; they wanted to know who had sent me to find Zoroaster in the vicinity of or, within the "hidden Imam". I of course, out of my genuine feelings for you, didn't mention your name. But it was the last time I trusted you on a fact-finding mission.
I like the way you have inserted bullets in one of your comments below here. Can you insert one into your avatar as well? Just kidding, just kidding, no personal threat; only name callings on this site.
By the way Farah, have you ever read a history book which has not been sponsored by the CIA or, the state of Israel?
The Pahlavis and all mullahs must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
Woooohooo Faghan
by HollyUSA on Sat Nov 21, 2009 07:52 PM PSTWB.
My history teacher,FR, just woke up!
by فغان on Sat Nov 21, 2009 07:45 PM PSTIt seems that now you have rotated to the night shift. How's the premium sweetie?
The Pahlavis and all mullahs must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
On Mossadegh and closet muslims
by Farah Rusta on Sat Nov 21, 2009 07:21 PM PSTEvery one is practicing or not practicing something. If you ask Mammad about his version of Islam he would say this is a private matter between him and his God. But is his version of Islam the same as mine or yours or Khamenei's ? we never know. I can't imagine if Mossadegh was praying 5 times a day toward Mecca but like many other people including the Shah he would justify his own actions in his own version of Islam.
So don't get excited Mommad. Mossadegh's Islam was not necessrily the same as yours. But that is not the issue. Mossadegh was far from meaning what he would say or saying what he would mean, I have already discussed this topic on this site at length and you are clearly a newcomer to this debate. But a little unbiased research might help you.
Now is your Islam any similar to Mossadegh's?
FR
I'm surprised you said no!
by benross on Sat Nov 21, 2009 05:44 PM PSTNo, not everyone was a nationalist. True nationalists do not support a foreign sponsored coup.
I would call it foreign assisted coup. The Shah and his supporters call it a popular uprising. Some even argue that the assistance was not even necessary, just a back-up. Which by any means is devoid of factual content. But all these are semantics. We did not digest our historical challenge and we still don't. About not being nationalist if asking for foreign assistance, look what Trita is doing. Look what the protesters are doing when addressing Obama. I'm not comfortable about asking foreign assistance when we are not a defined social entity. Shah was. Mossadegh was (and not asking assistance was his historical mistake - he had other priorities as indulging his ego) but a group of improvised protesters or a group of bloggers or lobbyists are not a social entity. But I'm kind of glad that the blind nationalism is fading and patriotism and realism is increasingly getting an acceptance as an argument. You fail to see it's not only about asking foreign help for toppling an adversary, asking them to 'negotiate' is the same thing. You are asking assistance from a foreign power and if you are not speaking on behalf of a social entity, you are on the loose.No, Benross
by Mammad on Sat Nov 21, 2009 05:09 PM PSTWhat I was trying to say was that Kashani was not a true supporter of Dr. Mosaddegh, and when he put Kashani in his place, he showed his true face. So, just insinuating something about Dr. Mosaddegh because at one point Kashani was supposedly a supporter and was also an ayatollah (and that was the point of that commentator) is not going to cut it in terms of belittling Dr. Mosaddegh.
In my opinion, we are where we are today because of the 1953 coup. Surely, Kashani and people like him who did not support Dr. Mosaddegh played a role in it, as did the Shah and his family.
No, not everyone was a nationalist. True nationalists do not support a foreign sponsored coup.
Mammad
Oh I mean what I say. But it
by benross on Sat Nov 21, 2009 04:19 PM PSTOh I mean what I say. But it doesn't make any difference for those who want to choose a conclusion and then pick and choose an argument to that end. Does it? You want to say Mosadegh was a nationalist? yes of-course, who wasn't. He had different policy than others -and failed- yes of-course, who didn't?
Don't you see where we are now? Of-course you don't.
Except that Benross,
by Mammad on Sat Nov 21, 2009 03:26 PM PSTunlike you, Dr. Mosaddegh meant what he said, and said what he meant. That is one reason he is a national treasure and national hero.
That was the end of Dr. Mosaddegh-Kashani relation. Kashani left the national movement and joined the coup after that. This is also too well-documented to be denied, or even skewed and reinterpreted!
Mammad
And regarding Kashani: Dr.
by benross on Sat Nov 21, 2009 01:59 PM PSTAnd regarding Kashani: Dr. Mosaddegh told Kashani to go to hell, when the latter made demands on him. That is so well-documented that leaves not even a nanohole to dispute it!
And I said once to Farah Rusta go hell, and the next day I admired her. These all will be well documented for the future for anyone to take his favorite piece!
Closet practicing Muslim?
by Mammad on Sat Nov 21, 2009 09:46 AM PSTThis is easily one of the most absurd statements anyone has made!
Since when practicing one's religion is something to hide? Would you call anyone a "closet practicing Christian," or a "closet practicing Jew," etc.? Of course not, because you only target Muslims! Over the past 560 years millions of Muslims (and non-Muslims for that matter) have been murdered by Christian nations, but it is the Muslims that are constantly targetted
Dr. Mosaddegh never ever hid the fact that he was indeed a practicing Muslim. Saying that he was a "closet practicing Muslim" is so ridiculous, because Dr. Mosaddegh was nothing if he did not express his belief honestly and openly.
So, is that why some are trying to attack Iran's national hero and treasure? That Dr. Mosaddegh was a practicing Muslim?
And regarding Kashani: Dr. Mosaddegh told Kashani to go to hell, when the latter made demands on him. That is so well-documented that leaves not even a nanohole to dispute it!
Mammad
You think I love you for nothing?
by فغان on Sat Nov 21, 2009 07:29 AM PSTWhenever you resort to your well-known "diversion" strategy at the moment of truth is for some masochistic reasons so appealing to me.
Dictatorship of the Shah is the very main reason for the female secretary being replaced by a male one. Capiche?
The Pahlavis and all mullahs must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
Stage is all yours....Be fair, first.
by فغان on Sat Nov 21, 2009 07:00 AM PSTMaking Mosaddeq a closeted fanatic just because it's weekend and nobody is watching you? That's called distortion.
Of course he did some, very major, tactical mistakes; but he didn't have tarnished ideologies.
The Pahlavis and all mullahs must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
Court documentation?
by Farah Rusta on Sat Nov 21, 2009 06:58 AM PSToh of course, sorry I forgot to tell where you can find the documents . Here is the address:
تهران - بالاتر ازميدان ولي عصر(عج) - نرسيده به زرتشت-وزارت دادگستري جمهوري اسلامي ايران
go to the fifth floor, when you exit the elevator go to the third door on the left and ask the (male) secretary you are looking for the filing cabinet containing the records begining with "M" - forR MASHANG.
FR
Afghan! stick to Gin and T - leave Mossadegh to me
by Farah Rusta on Sat Nov 21, 2009 06:38 AM PSTMossadegh's biggest ally was not Bazargan, if anything Bazargan's influence was only on the muslim students Mossadegh's true ally untill they fell out in 1953 was Ayatollah Kashani. Mossadegh was a closet practicing muslim and an appeased the clergy by sharing their anti-Bahai drive.
FR
My Royal know-all
by فغان on Sat Nov 21, 2009 06:36 AM PSTAny court documentation to support your claim? Or, I have to accept what you say just because you snapped you fingers.
I hope the crux of my question won't be lost in the midst of this pro and con sort of debate; which is the Pahlavis caused their own demise by way of the Shah's dictatorial rule. The fact that Shah was the law of the land eventually brought the house of cards down. That was the main reason for society at large resorting to any sign or event as the symbol of dissent.
I am always ready to quench your animal; Or, at least I try...
The Pahlavis and all mullahs must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
VP of Khorasan
by فغان on Sat Nov 21, 2009 06:05 AM PSTI don't think one will come to a valid conclusion by reverse study of a subject. Judging Mosaddeq by what Bazargan was or, did looks a bit trivial to me.
Mosaddeq never approved Bazargan's religious views. That is a historical fact.
The Pahlavis and all mullahs must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
No case to resign for!
by Farah Rusta on Sat Nov 21, 2009 06:03 AM PSTThe draftee was jailed and his superior officer was demoted or sacked as a result of an internal army inquiry.
Did you fix my Gin?
FR
My well-informed hermaphrodite
by فغان on Sat Nov 21, 2009 05:38 AM PSTThanks for your historical insight; I am just wondering in the absence of a sufficient and, independent judicial system, which is the trademark of the Pahlavi era, was any Royal decree issued as to launching an inquiry on the, according to you, simple mishap? Did anyone ever resign over this issue?
Or, it was just like any other day with the usual order of business at the Royal palace(s).
What do you mean "little"? It hurts!. Ouch...
The Pahlavis and all mullahs must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
I missed you too Afghan!
by Farah Rusta on Sat Nov 21, 2009 04:46 AM PSTMy harlmess little Gin guzzling fellow. Somehow you bring that wild animal out of me. (LOL)
Now about 16 Azar. It was a sad incident but no one ordered it. A number of politcal agitators and students taunting and challenging a trigger-happy draftee soldier and you can guess the rest.
FR
Open your eyes
by Alborz Irani on Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:17 PM PSTHonestly I can't understand how people can lie so easily.
How can they change everything and say it as realty?
Dear friends, we know enough about history and I am a history researcher in a university, Just because we don't talk about those people who worked for foreign governments, doesn't mean they didn't exist. We choose not to talk about them because we don't want to give more power to the Islamic regime. We want to be united against Islamic regime. Still, there is more than enough proof of those who served foreign governments in the last 80 years that we could write many books about their work against our own people.
Some of you choose to use language that shows your ignorance. This is the reason most Iranian people hate your idea.
Mossadegh; Jenbeh- Melli
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Nov 20, 2009 08:54 PM PSTI used to be a fan of Mossadegh. But as I studied history and learned about his allies like Bazargan I changed my mind.
Anyone who had Mehdi Bazargan as his ally did not belong in power. The youth who supported them were clueless idealists heavily influences by failed Marxist ideas.
I think the new generation in Iran is much more intelligent. The old guard Jebhe-Melli people just cannot accept that they screwed up.
JEBHEH MELLI & MOSSADEGH & REZA PAHLAVI
by فغان on Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:56 PM PSTI know you are here; my favorite hermaphrodite, I can sense your woosh which pours a tingling sensation throughout my soul; or, something very similar to that.
Missed you
The Pahlavis and all mullas must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.
Iran Today !
by Bahramerad on Thu Nov 19, 2009 09:11 PM PSTsimilarities they had with students today !
by Bahramerad on Thu Nov 19, 2009 09:02 PM PSTNONE !
They were communist ... the students of today are much more politically mature and are certainly NOT communist /Islamic agitators...
Mr .mohajerinejad - Your analysis SUCKS and is BULLSHIT ....
A question.
by Alborz Irani on Thu Nov 19, 2009 05:19 PM PSTI have a question.
Why the same time , when Islamic regime in Iran is angry with people who want Iranian republic , few people out of Iran are angry too.
Why they want change the words . Why they are scared of what people want: Iranian republic
ESTEGHLAL, AZADI.........JOMHORIYEH IRANI
Who I am?
by Alborz Irani on Thu Nov 19, 2009 04:57 PM PSTMr. Reza Mohajerinejad.
I am a member of Iranian students movement. I know you because of your activities for over 10 years.I know what you did and how strong you were in prison and in activities period in Iran.
Mr. Reza I do reach what you were writing in last few months after election and I am so happy you did not change and still you are strong against dictatorship. when I spoke to my freinds in Iran they were agree with me about you.
Mr. Mohajerinejad the same problems which we had in Iran, we have out of Iran . They are small part of Iranian community, who do not understand democracy and actually do not want to understand. When I am looking by the words they using against you I can see where they come from. They are a worse copy of Islamic Republic.
They want to change history specially about 16 Azar but all we know what happpen and who did that.
Mr. Mohajerinejad! I promise you till you are supporting democracy, we will support you . Be strong , we have a long way.
Hamrah sho aziz. Hamrah sho aziz
The Pahlavis
by truthseeker-33 on Thu Nov 19, 2009 04:37 PM PSTYou are right. We have a lot we owe the pahlavis...like working with the brits and cia to get rid of democracy in iran in 1953. thanks to the shah for that.
Farah Rusta seems to be busy so I fill in...
by فغان on Thu Nov 19, 2009 04:18 PM PSTIf it was not for the Pahlavi regime those students could've never taken their photos in western suits and ties.
The nation of Iran is indebted to the Pahlavis forever;.....and some other stuff she babbles about ......
and your name should be mohajeri bi aslonasab
LOL :)) LOOOOL :))
LOL LOL LOL LOL ....:0).....and keeps going forever.....
The Pahlavis and all mullas must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth.