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Meet the friends of Iranain people...

Now that you had a chance to hear the frustrated, ugly, hatefull howls of the cowardly enemies of Iran, screaming for more blood of Iranains, from the safety of their keyboards and their western places of residence!

 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeONezVdnCE&feature=related 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

No Fear

I am a believer in justice and common sense. Majority can go wrong as well. As we have seen many times in the history.   A government based on justice and common sense will serve all people. But a government based on religion will serve one religion and group.  After 9/11 majority in US wanted to bomb the heck out of ME. Majority in Israel think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is right, but based on Justice and common sense they are wrong. The same goes with Iran. I can guarantee that majority are not happy with false arrests, torture and political prisoners executions . So what is causing them?  Lack of justice and common sense. How is religion helping?  It is being misinterpreted and abused. 

Independent, meaning we will not take orders. We respect those who respect us.

Nationalism, is where we are lacking. We need to teach that from kindergarten. That is why we have had so many kisses and traitors.  That is what has harmed us for decades.  

You wrote,   The combination of religion and nationalistic ideals has been very successful in our country's history. 

I agree. If it wasn't for the faith, many wouldn't have risked their lives to defend the country. For what? some land? That is what i heard several times from some who lacked both the religion and nationalism and that is why some kings gave away most of the country. 

I am not saying we all will turn atheist. Everyone will have his/her own belief, just not by force, by choice plus nationalism.  That will unit the whole nation, compared to what we have had since 1979 .

I think one of the things that hardliners are afraid of is that anyone other than Islamic hardliners will sell the country out to west.  You might disagree, but Dr. Mosaddegh was a great example of a true nationalist , kashani was an example of religion without nationalism and Shah who lacked both.  Another worry they have is that anyone other than them will abandon the support for Lebanon and Palestine.  well, i am nationalist and i am for it and among these reasons VF is worried about losing his power. 

Norooz,

I am a believer in the Majority. I will follow any majority and will defend them even if their ideals are different than mine. I will serve any majority because serving them means serving my country.

Personally, i am secular but this does not mean i will not be active in a government based on religion. You will never see me opposing any government. We don't break governments, we make them , change them or reform them. We are the architects, not the demolition crew.

The worst thing any group can do is to go against the majority. Look at the ultra nationalist groups and their Islam bashing methods. This is like shooting yourself in the foot. These groups have done more harm to nationalistic ideals because they are creating conflicting emotions among people by arguing that these two concepts are unreconcilable. Well, by polarizing the society and excluding large masses of people from their groups, they are on a self defeating path. ( This has nothing to do with the validity of their claims, but everything to do with whether its the solution our people like to hear ).

We , on the other hand, work on including as many people as we can within our concept. We respect and defend Islam and we respect and defend our nationalistic ideals. Our goal is to be the leaders (representatives ) of the majority of Iranians. This is not a new concept. The combination of religion and nationalistic ideals has been very successful in our country's history.

Thats why you will see me defending the rights of our religious people and giving it a higher priority over western concepts. If my people collectively decline the concept of freedom of speech for example, you will never see me trying to shove it down their throat. I will accept my people's wish and i will be willing to give my life for it.

Iran and Iranians are the only thing i care about, everything else is crap.

Simorgh and Hoshang

Dear Friends,  Nice reading your comments and seeing what three of us want for Iran (despite any political differences) are the same as the ideals of the  martyred Iranain political prisoners this blog is dedicated to. That is a secular, independent democracy for Iran. What form or shape, will be entirely up to the vote of Iranain people, deciding in a truely  free election open to all, not this sham of so called "election",  under the lawless, corrupt, terroristic, islamist fascist dictatorship! This will happen, sooner or later I have now zero doubt about it. Islamist Regime is on it's last gasps, the wall is rotten it just needs a hard push!

And It is nice to see that we I ranians are all united, thanks to the islamist regime and it's etelaat ministry and it's brain dead agents!  

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

"a secular independent government will defend Iran"

the correct lesson learned from  your "cyber-dialogue" on this site.

No Fear

I hear you,  I was telling a very good friend of mine who is a MEK member the same thing. I told him that some political activist fight their governments for so long that it becomes a habit and no matter who the government they always fight it.  My statement was a mixture of truth and sarcasm.  But this is not a case that the system is just and people are over reacting. There are serious problems with the system. I agree. People like Panahi make such statements and young people go nuts.  But Just because Panahi said that, doesn't mean IRI should grant him his wish. 

I don't really care much for wings, whether left or right. I am for justice. I don't belong to any group. I believe in a secular independent nationalist government.  This way the country stays independent and people will rule.  Some hardliners think they are the only ones who will defend Iran and stand up to west and east.  I think a secular independent nationalist government will defend Iran without oppressing people.  At the end, it is not about the title. It is if people have justice, freedom and .......  Certainly some systems open the doors for troubles.  

Regards,

Roozbeh

Good points. I am in favour of a constitutional monarchy and despite my support of the previous regime (which we may disagree with) it is not without criticism and even rebuke.

I honestly believe that with the appointment of Shahpour Bakhtiar Iran would have evolved into a constitutional monarchy similar to that of the UK. The revolution caused needless death, chaos and reversed the many advances Iran had made. Although, I am not a Socialist, I also share your concern and passion for social justice, rule of law and equality amongst people. This may sound like an oximoron but monarchy and social equality have managed to peacefully co-exist in Sweden and Norway. In the UK, the welfare system and a national universal health care system was created by a state which had a monarchy in contrast to Republics and Soviet dictatorships which supposedly championed egalitarianism . I totally respect your view point only that I see a a monarchy as culturally integral to Iran and can unify people in a positive way. However, this will ultimately for the people of Iran to decide. 

Regardless of whether Iran will be a monarchy or a republic in t he future, we all share one thing: A belief in secular democracy, rule of law and an impartial justice system.  This can be achieved by a republic or a monarchy. 

Our priority should be the destruction of the Mullah regime.  

Norooz, (rightwing approach to political prisoners).

Many repented MKO members have returned to Iran. Even our president first advisor ( Mashaei ) wife was a former MKO member. But ofcourse those members who have been involved in terrorist cross border attacks must be identified , tried and punished based on the severity of their crimes. We are not letting murderers go free because they are now sorry. Ofcourse, if you are truly regretting being a member of MKO , you must cooperate with our intelligence services for data gathering. That is the price of your freedom. To display genuine sincerity about the well being of your countrymen, you have to help us catch those terrorist scumbags.

In regards to political prisoners, generally i hold a position that puts the blame on both the government and the political prisoner. I believe in reducing the gap between the government and people. I don't believe in exposing the rift between regime and freedom fighters. My approach comes  from my rightwing ideology while many political prisoners follow a revolutionary leftwing approach.

Look... there are many rightwing activists in Iran that are saying a lot more than you can imagine. look at how we approach the VF concept in Iran. Look at how we are dealing with religion in Iran. Our actions speaks volume. But you never see us pointing our fingers to VF and calling him a dictator. That is just dumb. You will end your activism by giving a reason to be shut down. We don't believe in revolutionary approaches. That is why the blame is shared on both prisoners and the state.

To give you an example, a few months before Jafar Panahi gets banned, i heard him talk to an interviewer and he said ( i am not making this up ) : " It would be an honor to be a political prisoner". Can you believe this shit?  That statement is wrong on so many levels. Going against the establishment has become a hip thing to do. i mean, no one think of you as "intellectual " if you don't stick your finger up the establishment butt. This is an ideology fully influenced by leftwing revolutionary solutions.

As a rightwing activist, you are ecouraged to not having your activism defeated by bans or prison terms. You can not be effective behind prison bars.

On Nasrin Setoudeh:  She had numerous opportunities to present foreign presses on proof of tortures on her clients. She never provided any proof. She just used foreign presses to wage a press war against our courts for the sake of her clients. She was asked to tone it down, but as a hotheaded revolutionary, she continued using foreign presses to put pressure on court proceedings. She still has not provided any proof of torture on her clients.

I don't believe in slapping her and her husband ( who followed her method of getting the foreign press involved ) with lengthy prison terms. But i also do not agree with her approaches either.

I am not a revolutionary.

Simorgh

You welcome!

I know you are a monarchist and I am a socialist, so politically poles apart. But we both  love Iran and it's people and do not appreciate seeing our brothers and sisters being murdered in this cowardly fashion.

You should not be amazed by the behaviour of these couple of cyber bassijis. You see these are paid by the islamist regime to propagate lies on their behalf on Internet. They are all foreign residents. Most of them are not even iranian. They do these things for money. There always are and will always be criminals who'd do anything for money.

But our country has seen treason and traitors before and always merged victorious. This shameful phase in our history will pass and Iran will prevail. Ignore the islamist lap poodles yapping and focus on highlighting the plight of Iranains under the islamist regime.

BTW, I consider myself a Democratic socialist and  reject all the dictatorial crimes which were committed in Soviet Union, China , Cambodia and elswhere in the name of socialism.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Roozbeh Jan

Thank you very much for your support. I am amazed how people like the Cyber terrorists are so indifferent to the fate of Iranians and condone the death of our young whose lives are cut off from this world. It truly is heartbreaking. I won't allow myself to be bullied but now I know why Mao Tse Tung had re-education camps for the ignorant! 

Dear Simorgh:

 1) You are absolutely right to be outraged about the cold blood, cowardly murder of Iranain political prisoners at the hands of the islamist regime. Indeed if you were not, how could you even call yourself a human being let alone Iranian?

2) Dont let these cowardly agents of islamist regime on internet to bully you. Remember that they are cowards and weaklings hiding under false user ID's. They are vermims which will be crushed under the mighty feet of Iranian people one day, no matter where they hide.

3) The political prisoners in Iran, including the ones you named are often told that by confessing to a crime on TV, they will have their lives spared, then they are murdered on that false "evidence".

Down with islamist regime and all it's agents

Long Live Free democratic Iran

No Fear

Because unlike the Islamic Republic both Ramanpour and Zamani had human compassion and considered the fate of their family over and above their own lives - the acts of a true human. Anyone else in the same position would have done the same thing. 

This is no different from Ashtiani and her sons.  

In 2007, a tram of seven British Royal Navy were forced to "confess" on live TV that they crossed Iranian waters despite evidence to the contrary.  Again, even hardened veterans who were captured during Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq have been forced to make statements acknowledging guilt against their own will. The Islamic Republic excels at torture, blackmail and psychological warfare even amongst its agents and murderers such as Said Emami. 

To give you a taste of what Rahmanpour and Zamani went through here is  the interrogation of Said Emami's wife:

 //media.gn.apc.org/Iran/videos.html

If they did that to Emami's wife, heaven only knows what they did to Rahmanpour and Zamani.

I will ask you the same question which you have tried to avoid:

What was the evidence procured by  the Sepah and IR terrorists intelligence  by which they arrested and kept in detention both young men for more than a year? 

Simorgh,

Please tell me why those two people on live national TV or in a court room full of press and public didn't shout they were tortured and their families threatened?

Norooz

I am sorry if I have given you the impression that I support either the USA or Israel unconditionally but I haven't. Both Israel and the USA have made appalling policy decisions which are counter productive and in the case of Gaza - I accept could even be considered as war crimes by Israel. However, despite my opposition to a lot of Israel's policy decisions, I do not oppose its just existence or boycott the country. If I did, then I also must also treat the USA, the UK, Sri Lanka, India and especially the mother of all warmongering countries - Russia, with the same contempt. 

Norooz

I am sorry if I have given you the impression that I support either the USA or Israel unconditionally but I haven't. Both Israel and the USA have made appalling policy decisions which are counter productive and in the case of Gaza - I accept could even be considered as war crimes by Israel. However, despite my opposition to a lot of Israel's policy decisions, I do not oppose its just existence or boycott the country. If I did, then I also must also treat the USA, the UK, Sri Lanka, India and especially the mother of all warmongering countries - Russia, with the same contempt. 

a response to "Johny Dollar"

Not sure if your story about your brother is true or not. But lets assume it is true. 

First of all in war they dont give out candies, people get killed. So consider your brother lucky to be alive! Also the story of your brother has nothing to do with the Murder of political prisoners in jails of islamist regime, 57 thus far this year alone, which is the subject of this blog.

Second: The entire region of Kurdistan rejected the rule of islamist Fascist regime soon after revolution and maintained that position ever since. The islamist regime attacked kurdistan as the result and laid waste to cities of sanadaj in particular. Murdering and raping Kurdish women and children, commiting acts of Genocide. These crimes were not committed by regular army, but by the bassij /pasdar militia forces, the very same people who committed the same crimes of rape and Murder in post 2008 Election demonstrations in Iran.

So Koomeleh was formed as the result , by the Kurdish people to defend Kurds against the islamist regime. Koomeleh has been refraining from military action for many years now in favour of political action (very succesfully as they organised the mass strikes in the entire kurdistan last year).  But Koomeleh has fought the regime in the past and killed many of the bassiji mercenaries in defence of Kurdish population. I do not regret the death of a bassiji murderer a bit do you? 

"Norooz" and "no fear"(your ironic chosen ID alwayys make me laugh!!): You two paid agents of the islamist regime on this site seem to be working overtime! What's going on? is it annual bonus time? BTW, whatever Kurds did to  "no fear" to make him hate kurdish people so much, Nooshe Joonesh, gavaraye vojoodesh! 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

joojeh simorgh

It is about who is the enemy of humanity, not just being nice to me. 

One can be very nice to me, but torture you. That is  not acceptable to me.  That is how we should  look at it. At least that is how I do. But you think if Israel or US hasn't directly attacked Iran, we should be OK with their crimes against humanity. I know exactly what I am talking about and remember, what goes around, comes around.  

No Fear,

I forgot to attach this link. You might have read it before. Mojahedin site is down and I couldn't get more names from 1979, before they were armed.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Massacre_of_Iranian_Prisoners 

Norooz

You are confused. You are correct and well informed about the MEK and Nasrin Sootodeh but because of your conditioning by the Islamist Terrorist Occupying regime of Iran you still have a hang up about Israel and still can't come to realise the fact who your enemies are and who your friends are. 

Joojeh simorgh / No Fear

It was time to fish for Jojeh simorgheh Zionist to advocate bombing Iran !!!  You used to wait till Zionists were under attack. Looks like you are expanding your comments like Israel does with lands.

No Fear, 

Back in old days I had some classmates who were active in MEK, but all they were doing was distributing flayers. Some were arrested and some were executed.  Are you going to say, they were all terrorist? MEK hadn't even harmed anyone until Zahra Kazemi's tongue was puled out and another member's eyes were gouged and many more were tortured right after the revolution in Evin. Those actions forced them to take arms. MEK was not separatist or terrorist, but they went too far and became terrorist by killing innocent people and sided with Saddam against Iran killing Iranian armed forces. Their leadership screwed up! 

Mosht nemooneyeh Kharavareh. When Nasrin sotoodeh and other lawyers go to jail for doing their jobs, that alone shows how guilty the rest are.

Joojeh simorgh mentioned two and what a coincidence that their attorney Nasrin Soroodeh is in jail too and she had said, her clients have been tortured to admit guilt, Which is probably what put her in jail. She wouldn't have said that unless she had evidence to prove it. The victims gone, now she is the only who can testify. Now her husband has been arrested. There are some more examples on Iranian of the day and other sites that you can look up.  I don't think a name or two will help you. "To fekh konam ma ro sare kar gozashti"

Just as an attorney will do no good in an unjust court, the evidence presented by an unjust court cannot be trusted. Do you see what the problem is? 

No Fear

They were captured 'in connection' with the Mosque bombing with no concrete evidence to support such an indictment. The pictures of the haggard men tell me a different story. But as you say, they were captured 13 months prior to their mock trial and execution so there was plenty of time for the Islamist thugs to torture and then threaten Ramnapor and Zamani's family with reprisals if they did not 'confess'.

This is the same bogus confession extracted from hundreds of political prisoners of the IR extracted under the most brutal forms of duress including the remarkable ones from Sakineh Ashtiani and her son.

The Islamic Republic convicts on hunches which Khalkhali and Khomeini both admitted. Have you forgotten how Ayatoilet Khomeini justified the prison purges of 1988 by drawing parallels between himself and the Prophet Mohammed who slaughtered the entire Banu Qurayza  because the Archangel Gabriel warned him that he will be betrayed by them in a dream. 

I will ask you again: other than the bogus confessions of both men please provide me with specific evidence that they blew up the mosques after 13 months of capture of both men.  

Simorgh,

They were captured in connection to a mosque bombing in Shiraz in 2008 which resulted in 13 deaths.

Even their lawyer , Nasrin Sotoudeh have said that they confessed to their crimes. But Nasrin also mentioned these confession might have been extracted under torture.

However, looking at their pictures in the court, it does not look like they were under torture. Both these two also went on national TV and confessed to their crimes.

//www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=272875990487

Here is the video of the bombing;

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCObcsTzq7E

No Fear

Sure, they were supporters of the Kingdom Assembly but what was the specific act of terror which they committed? Did they plant explosives? Did they kill civilians? You still have not answered my question. Is it because they were a member of an alleged terrorist group or was there evidence which linked them to a specific incident? 

Don't get me wrong if both individuals actually placed a bomb inside a mosque, attacked Sepah or assassinated an official of the IR then they will be martyrs for Iran. However, there is no information whatsoever that they carried out these courageous act.  

Be under no illusion, Rammanpur's death and others like him justify a military attack on the IR in itself.  

The Kingdom Assembly  of Dr Fouldavdand was vehemently opposed violence in Iran (I actually wish they didn't) and for the same reason opposed the Rajavi MKO movement. 

This is the same as the prison purges of '88. Another murder of the IR.  

Simorgh,

Both those people belonged to the kingdom Assembly. ( Go to Tondar.org ) That is a fact. Even Arash Rahmanpour used Dr. Fouladvand's poems in his last written will that has been published.

Both had media coverages in their courts which were open to public and Nasrin Setoudeh was the defense lawyer.

Get your facts straight.

No Fear

You lie through your teeth - of course you do.

 Mohammad Ali Zamani  and Arash Rahmanpour were murdered last year for having been 'associated' with the Kingdom Assembly group of Dr Fouladvand which were totally false. The latter, Arash had merely written to the organisation and there was no evidence of them carrying out military operations against the IR. They were executed without proper trial and full legal counsel only because the IR wanted to set an example to all Green demonstrators that they would kill those that rise against them.

The only terrorists are the Islamic Republic fromt he spiritual leader, the President, the justice system and all Sepah and ansare Hezbollah movement.  

Mark my words: Whether you like it or not there will be military action against the scum of the earth and thank God for that!  

Norooz,

Which terrorist was hung unjustly? Do you have a name or are you just guessing?

For example, the IR judiciary even stopped the execution of habibollah Latifi because he personally did not confess to the crime despite other PJAK members confessed to his involvement.

I am not defending the judiciary. But i believe the sentences against terrorists are just and after careful considerations.

Ofcourse, in regards to political prisoners, more needs to be done. The average 10 years sentences ( Many 6 years and a few 20 years ) that political prisoners are getting slapped with is too much. Although many are out sooner than that , but this sort of intimidating political activists by these heavy sentences must stop.

But for terrorists, we need to be consistant. Spare no one so they know we mean business and how high the price of terrorist attacks are going to be when carried out in our cities. Execute every single one of these scumbags.

No Fear

If the court is not a just court, having an attorney will do no good.   When attorneys get arrested, jailed and tortured for defending their clients, among many other things, that cannot be a just court.  That, we know for sure. 

I take a just court without attorney over an unjust court with attorney any day. 

I am sure some of these individuals have killed and were hanged for it. But I am also sure the way system operated many innocents have been executed and are being tortured and imprisoned.  They charge a  cleric political prisoner as The Enemy Of God and there are Devil worshipers going on with their rituals and drinking blood and etc.  So, who is the enemy of God between the two?  Clearly they mean Khamenei, not God.  Now watch! After this comment, they will start hanging the young and stupid devil worshipers to avoid discrimination.   

I hate Komoleh since they captured my brother almost hanged him!

I have lived here way before the revolution so honestly i don't know much about them. However, my younger brother along many of his friends at one point were kidnapped from Kermanshah and taken to kordestan on foot.

The story of how some of the guys who couldn't walk anyomre and komoeh put the gun in their mouths and shot and killed them would always stay with me.

For almost 20 months my mom and dad and the rest of my family and friends suffered thinking that he was dead. My mom aged so much having a hard time to sleep and eat.... only one day before his execution he was miraculously spared (as he was walking to be hanged) due to circumstances that i cannot elaborate.

So, anyone who defends these criminal group is not any better than komoleh and not worthy of discourse! Shame on those who support this group! One cannot love Iran and wanting to see Iran as one country at the same time supporting this criminal group that is supported by you know which countries!  Good bye!

"God Is Love - but Love Is Not God!"

Mash Ghasem

You went and read a few lines in a hurry about komoleh and think you know them? 

So was Tudeh party.  Have you heard about the crimes Tudeh party committed in Azarbayjan, Gilan and Mazandaran? 

Houshi Mooshi,

In Farsi we say Targol, not Tarreh-gol. Is that supposed to be the Kurdish version of Targol or is just another error by an Iranian who don't know his Farsi? 

No Fear

I really think they shouldn't be hanged this way and they should have the rights to defend themselves in a just court.  Otherwise, many innocent people will lose their lives as I am sure many have.  I hope they all come to their senses and act humane and civilized toward each others, starting with IRI.  This will benefit everyone. 

I am sure these commentators are good people, they are just too sensitive and fall for all the lies and propaganda as they did with Omar story. As the result, I know if I new them, i would take them for a Chelo Kabab, but they would cut my head off.  

بالام جان ، وقتت که چه عرض شود تو کل حیات و مماتت تلفه

حالا برو با سپاه مقداری مواد مخدر قاچاق کن، و پسر و دختران ایرانی را بفرست به دوبی.

پایانت بسیار نزدیک تر از آن است که به فکر علیلت میرسه.