Abarmard

Here comes a good article

Why Iran Needs a Nuclear Bomb

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;-)

VPK

Arab jan hala khar fahm shodi ya hanoos mosalmani?

I guess, koon soozi bad dardieh! You are being mauled on this thread from all sides and yet you do not stop your. It is not at all surprising for a bigotted fascist to resort to cyber hate speed be it against Arabs or islam and muslims. Heife Noone, what a waste of money was your proclaimed education. Back in Hitlarian era, you would have bee his rigt hand woman.

As a Cgristian convert (again per your claim, among many) shame on you to downgrade that great religion. I suppose one cannot expect much from you if you betrayed your birth religion, what expectation could Christianity possibly have of you? Similarly, you betrayed your country to dash to another, but you are, much like your newly elected religion, you are a disgrace for the US as a new citizen with your inherent bigoted rascism.

Now, Kharfahm shodi?

;-)

Nuclear

I have a problem with anyone having nuclear systems. They are dangerous and *must* be put away. No good will come out of mass use of these systems. 

Arab jan hala khar fahm shodi ya hanoos mosalmani?

Wow!

Really? so that is why you have no problems with the US, France or the UK have nuclear weapons? I am sure you use the same logic for the Zionists, their traffic fatalities are low so they must qualify to have nuclear weapons. It baffles me how you bigoted rascist "Aryans" justify having or not having nuclear weapons. 

From reading your garbage I gather nuclear weapons at the hands of Indians , Pakistanis, North Koreans chinese and Russians are all a mistake because each has its own "safety" issues, be it a traffic fatality, earth quake and so on. But you don't have any problems with the US, the Zionists, France and Uk having the nuclear weapons. You are jokes for your mentality and reasoning.

As I said, if that sugar is good for the Zionists, US, UK, France and so on, Iran should have it too. No non-sense please!!!!

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Dear Nasrallah Military Forum

This can be done by simply having encichment plants with new generation of IR-4 centrifuges, no need to have a nuclear plant.

Now professor, do you have anything comprehensive, just anything, to say in regars to wether Iran should have the bomb or not.

Please spare us with your none-sense. 

Enrichment plants wouldn't be damaged in an earthquake? And IRI doesn't have nuclear plants? Isn't that what they have at Bushehr? Is "nuclear energy" all then just another IRI lie and the real intent is the bomb? (BTW, are the Russians ever going to finish that plant for the IRI)? They keep saying next year, so we'll just have to wait and see...

Traffic accidents

Indicate a systematic lack of care about safety. Where safety is not high in the list. This means whether peaceful or not running nuclear programs is risky specially by IRI. Now do you get it IMF or like other Islamists you are oblivious to reality.

Listen

Actually, a number of countries have given up the bomb, e.g.
South Africa, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus. But, the issue is not
whether Iran should have the bomb but whether the Number One
Killer of Iranian men, women, and children, i.e. the IRI regime,
should have the bomb. Moreover, what would happen to nuclear plants in a
country with a history of several devastating earthquakes in the past
few decades and a notoriously awful safety record (e.g. the
highest rate of auto accident deaths in the world). Who would the
West-residing IRI groupies, like Nasrallah Military Forum, blame if Iran
suffers a Chernobyl-like accident or worse? Well, the Zionists of
course.

Listen professor, how on earth traffic fatalities are related to having nuclear bomb? Moreover we are discussing Iran having the bomb or not  what does it have to do with earthquake? Iran can have boms without having any nuclear plants or your information. This can be done by simply having encichment plants with new generation of IR-4 centrifuges, no need to have a nuclear plant.

Now professor, do you have anything comprehensive, just anything, to say in regars to wether Iran should have the bomb or not.

Please spare us with your none-sense. 

More nonsense from Nasrallah Military Forum

many countries, including the Zionist regime , spent Billions to build the bomb and are not and will not be willing to give it up!

Actually, a number of countries have given up the bomb, e.g. South Africa, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus. But, the issue is not whether Iran should have the bomb but whether the Number One Killer of Iranian men, women, and children, i.e. the IRI regime, should have the bomb. Moreover, what would happen to nuclear plants in a country with a history of several devastating earthquakes in the past few decades and a notoriously awful safety record (e.g. the highest rate of auto accident deaths in the world). Who would the West-residing IRI groupies, like Nasrallah Military Forum, blame if Iran suffers a Chernobyl-like accident or worse? Well, the Zionists of course.

A strong

Iran is not to be messed with! For those who blindly advocate otherwise, pay attention why many countries, including the Zionist regime , spent Billions to build the bomb and are not and will not be willing to give it up!

If that sugar is good, it must be good for Iran too. As simple as that!

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But

what guarantees they will not try to use it.

Beside what is the safety rate of such industry in Iran?

WHAT IS THE SAFETY RATE OF ANYTHING ELSE?????????????

Fairness and Equality in Justice

Marhoum magas, The reesh sefide IC

De-marhoumiatet mobarak:)

I missed you man. You have Re-emerged with a Bang and a boom. Marhaba , marhaba.

I'm Sure with These Thugs Finger on the Red Button

We are in Safe Hands ...

Thug leader also calls Ahmad Khomeini anti-revolutionary; attack on Montazeri home

to mitra

we can't trust any government. why do you trust the us british, russian and israeli ones?

what is the harm of having nuclear weapons for iran? do think iri will drop it in tehran?

i agree with abarmard on this point. it is unfortunately against the fatwa of the supreme leader. that is why it will not happen anytime soon. but i wish it would. all foreign powers are against iran.

marjaneh

why not get started? a freudian field day sounds like a lot more fun than this dire discourse on nuclear weaponry. ;) (maybe on some other blog-territory)

Humanbeing and No Fear

 
humanbeing, ;)

But don't start me off, 'cause I could have a Freudian field day, starting off with schizophrenic impotence right to X-chromosone inferiority complex clapping at flapping (beating) hoola hoola chests.

No Fear

Which bit did you mean? (I often take the mickey!;))

If you meant the religion bit, no, I was dead straight on that. Mr and Mrs Theo and their various sprogs, terrify the flippin' filaments out of me. It's insane and irrational, 'herdish' etc.etc.....

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or
without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people
doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes
religion.”  - Steven  Weinberg

No Fear (2

TO BOMB means IRR will have to survive another 30 years.

If they can solve the Israel /palestine Issue (god forbid );then YES Israel will BOMB Iran's Nuclers and military strategic places and the result may turn to civil war.....

Every Iranian have to solve the issue of IR should GO or STAY ?

And NO I'm NOT sophisticated, just a simple BEDUIN from Khuzestan. Maziar

no fear

i personally believe there will be no foreign attack. it would be insanity (not that insanity is unprecedented).

i have respect for certain forms of islam (in the sense that an outsider studying its literature does), but have never thought of it as a weapon or heard it interpreted in this way so concretely and monolithically. i cannot believe that hundreds of millions of muslims all interpret islam as a weapon, or all have one interpretation of things generally. i guess islam is a multi-faceted phenomenon and in my myopia i concentrated only on the positive facets.

i did not mean of course to rely on the people as cannon fodder or some other military force (that was done, i believe in the iran-iraq war).

rather, i meant that a prosperous, peaceful, scientifically and culturally hegemonic, secure iran can be promoted by putting the national effort and funding towards freeing the people to pursue their civil endeavours and to fulfill their magnificent potential.

if other countries had done this instead of funneling everything into military, nuclear program, handouts to religious parties, etc. they wouldn't be where they are now (of course there are other reasons, but specifically i mean if they built up their internal moral and civil stamina at least as much if not more than building up their arsenal).

it is wise to learn from the mistakes of others.

if you don't believe as i do that there will be no attack, if you are afraid of an attack, there is one certain way to avert it: what is certain is that if the leadership frees the people or they free themselves, the outside world will not see any need to free them, and will not even be tempted by the slightest temptation to attack.

Abaramrd, you are so wrong, I don't know where to begin

Abarmard, your blog is one of the worst I have seen on IC. what a bad advice. Iran's problem right now is not foreign governments but cruel government of IRI. How can any sane and good hearted Iranian trust IRI with nuclear bomb? Only an IRI agent or someone very unaware of the politics would write such a blog. You should think about it. What you have written is horrible. Just horrible.

No Fear: "Insults" is the least that Rapists deserve

And abpove all, you only know how to criticize without offering any solution.

Solution #1: You get the hell out of the West. Supporters of a Rapist anti-American clerical/Rapist Pasdar dictatorship have no business living in Sheytan-e Bozorg. In other words, get Lost and metastasize to some Islamist hellhole (Gaza and S. Lebanon would be apt).

Solution #2: Economically suffocate and militarily annihilate the Rapist Leaders. Saddam and the Nazi German Leaders hung from a noose--that would be a good way forward for IRI's leaders. True Justice would entail that all leaders of the Rapist Regime should be tried by courts of justice and punished accordingly. Their cyber groupies should also be investigated and prosecuted for colluding with a Rapist Regime.

Maziar,

I am not as sophisticated in my replies as you are. Please elaborate.

Bomb or NO bomb? And why?  keep it simple and clean.

irani irani...

I never enjoyed a debate with you.

You are hot headed and your replies are full of insults. But most importantly, you never seem to follow the main point of the debate. And abpove all, you only know how to criticize without offering any solution. So save me and yourself from wasting our time on one another and just piss off.

No Fear

NO there is no enemy around............

But all the little countries around IRR think (by the western propaganda Machines!!) Iran is the ENEMY so they can sell their rusted craps.

Iran need to be strong BUT not the Islamic Republic.              Maziar

Abarmard,

Where are you?  I don't want to be guilty of hijacking your thread.

HB and Marjaneh

Humanbeing,

Again, this topic is about whether Iran should pursue a nuclear bomb to thwart a foreign invasion or attack. Relying on the people of Iran against a superior army does not make any realistic sense.

Marjaneh,

Did i detect sarcasm in your post?

Kharmagas ...

I am disappointed in your reply in general and particulary in your failure and ability to understand that this entire thread is about the best solutions when confronting a foreign attack.

Deviating from the topic and introducing the internal opposition in the mix is not the proper reply to my comment to you, with all due respects.

However, i will engage you in any other related thread to your last reply.

Before posting this tripe, No Fear drank a lot of "Islamic" wine

Any use of nuclear weapons against Iran could translate to the release of bio and chemical agents in populated cities without any direct link to Iran. 

Just let the Rapists try that crap in the U.S. and see what happens. Emam-e Zaman will return to Qom in the shape of a large mushroom cloud, and no one will shed a tear--we may, in fact, see spontaneous street parties throughout the world, including Iran.

We have increased the cost of an attack on Iran by any country to a point that it does not make any economical or political sense to any country in the world, to attack us.

Okay, good. Then, why is the Head Rapist Khamenei and his West-residing cyber groupies on this and other websites always justifying the IRI's reign of killing, raping, torturing, and thieving by saying that it's necessary since IRI is on the verge of invasion, blah, blah, blah. There's some serious lying going on here--lying, of course, is the most natural thing for Islamists Rapists to do (followed closely by killing, raping, and running Iran's economy into the ground).

Iran has become the religious leader of the middle east and we own the streets in our neighborhood.

Sunni Rapist terrorists are willing to accept money from IRI, as well as from Saudi Arabia, whose pockets are much deeper than IRI. IRI is the "leader" of a gang of illiterate, Third World rapists that includes Hezbollah and Sadr's thugs. The U.S. and Israel have inflicted humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat on the Arabs, and the "Arab street" hasn't done squat, except act like a bunch of crazed monkeys burning American flags. Big deal: the IRI Rapists have been burning U.S. flags since the first day they came to power. Believe me: Uncle Sam will have the last laugh (you saw how it toyed with the Rapists during the Iran-Iraq War, and then threw Saddam away like used Kleenex. That'w what Uncle Sam does with Arab and Islamist Rapists, and they deserve it). 

We have made known that any nation that harbours our enemy, will be targeted and subsequently, will have to deal with a wave of groups calling for an establishment of an Islamic republic in their countries. We have proved our capabilities in this regard and we are getting exceedingly efficient in it evey day

Keep dreaming. Khomeini's lousy Rapist "revolution" failed at home to give Iranians anything other than war, mayhem, murder, and misery, and he never "exported" it anywhere. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, the Gulf States are obedient U.S. clients, and Iraq and Afghanistan are under U.S. military occupation. Who cares what Arabs think anyway? Their own leaders don't even care. Why do I get the sense that No Fear is Saddam's former Information Minister?    :-)

Nop, Islam is not your weapon! (to no Fear)

No Fear says: "The greatest weapon in our hand is our religion and beliefs. ( Pay
attention here ).  Iran has become the religious leader of the middle
east and we own the streets in our neighborhood."

No Fear, I don't care that the greens didn't capture the power last year, but I bet if your candidate's faction did not have fire arms, anti riot gears, ...etc.,  and was relying only on "Isalm" and "its religious leadership of the middle east", even a small army of lousy Monarchists with minimal help (firearms...) from their U.S/Israeli sponsors, would have taken over Tehran last year, and Dariush Kadivar would be Tehran's mayor now!

marjaneh

couldn't agree with you more.

that's the gist of what i wrote in a comment to the blog 'saudi arabia denies flight deal':

"sorry to dissapoint you, nobody is going to shoot anything at anybody else. it's all idiotic y-chromosome-speak. the ones under most immediate threat are your fellow iranians, who are being shot and worse at the hands their compatriots. go watch some mondial.

or better yet: make love, not war."

de Saint Phalle phallic power fallacy

I wish grown men would get over their penis enlargement aspirations and start to create something constructive.

Btw, Iran already has a big bomb; it's called religion.

Every fascism is an index of a failed revolution - Walter Benjamin

the best 'weapon' is the iranian people

i agree with no fear that the bomb won't be used. it's a waste of money.

i disagree that islam is the weapon of choice.

the amazing human capital of iranian youth is the weapon of choice for promoting a beautiful, peaceful, prosperous and secure future for iran, who can 'rule the neighbourhood' by scientific, cultural, and civil hegemony.

the nuclear question is a non-starter

my favourite quote these past few days is (three guesses who said this):

"To the citizens and governments of the world I say: The people of Iran need you more than ever. Let their voices be heard. Don't allow their epic and existential struggle go unnoticed under the guise of nuclear weapons priorities."

open your minds.