Capt Ayhab

Mola jan.....Marge is such an wise woman

Mola jan.

Marge is such a wise woman and she always nails it.

Regards

-YT 

Mammad

Thank you so kindly for your encouraging words. I truly appreciate it.

You note:

[I have always said: Reject what must be rejected, defend what must be defended (Iran's national interests), and criticize what must be criticized. In my view doing these is the hallmark of a patriot.]

Cosign on that... perfectly said.

Some naive and treacherous souls have a twisted notion  that IF they chooses a blogger handle that has some variation of Iran in it then they automatically become the soul patriot of the land.

Sadly enough though, it is these types of group/mentality that are the loudest in advocating and siding with organizations and countries who have no interest of Iran and Iranians in mind and been spending million and countless hours to ensure a devastating airtight sanction and bloody war on our people.

Best regards

-YT 

Spear - Editted

Firstly thanks for your comment.

You note[If I advocate strikes against the nuclear facilities of the terrorists holding my nation hostage for 31 years, then I harbor......]

To begin with Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a...citizen's  actions to help a foreign government  overthrow, make war  against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]."  ]

I firmly believe that, asides from its definition, who ever advocates any sort of military strike on his/her home land is committing act of high treason. You do not see any other country who are under any form of dictatorship to advocate such act on their own land do we?

You may label it as you wish, high horse rider, childish and any other name, but your name calling will never change the fact that advocating military strike on ones own nation is clear definition of high treason.

You further note[ The last thing we need in our neighborhood is a nuclear race between
the IRI and Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Turkey,
etc]

There admittedly you have a point, but so far  NO entity, from UN to US has n been able to produce the solid concert proof of military development of Iran's nuclear program. Most that they are agreeing in is that Iran has not been TRANSPARENT in their program.

It is the naive so called Iranian patriots that are fueling the flames of foreign entities in promoting the fear and the notion that Iran producing nuclear weapon. 

Finlay you note[Take Israel out of this picture and replace it with a Muslim
country like Turkey, and I would still be writing the same thing, but then you'd be hurling snide remarks about me be a "Turk."]

Couple of things......... Israel has been consistently threatening to strike Iran, taking her out of the equation would be like burying one head in the sand. Turkey, as you used as an example, has never threatened Iran with air tight sanction nor with military strike on her nuclear installations, some thing Israel does on daily if not hourly basis.

Secondly seems to me that you find calling some one [Turk] as demeaning . Due respect, this demonstrates your obvious bias and prejudice toward Turk, since you consider calling same one a Turk is HURLING insult at them.

//openlibrary.org/b/OL47433M/Oran%27s_diction...

-YT 

This article is short-sighted and divisive, at best

Sample: "No matter what their motives, they share a one common and profound characteristic and that is an utter hatred of anything and everything Iranian."

Excuse me, but who are you to say this?

If I advocate strikes against the nuclear facilities of the terrorists holding my nation hostage for 31 years, then I harbor "utter hatred of anything and everything Iranian" -- including Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, takht-e-Jamshid, or chelo-kabob for that matter? Who are you to be such a judge? Seriously, do you wear a black robe when you post your frivolous blogs?

Maybe the reason I oppose a nuclear IRI has something to do with the fact that if we get them, all the Arab countries around Iran will get them too, sooner or later (just as Pakistan acquired them when India got hers). And maybe some of us "haters of all things Iranian" don't want a future Saddam Hussein in the region armed with nukes! Just imagine if Saddam had nuclear weapons in the summer of 1982 when Iran was gaining the upper-hand in Khoramshahr. He had no problem using chemical weapons, what makes you think he would use nukes?

The last thing we need in our neighborhood is a nuclear race between the IRI and Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Turkey, etc. For me, this has nothing to do with Israel, so stop calling people you disagree with "zionists" or "AIPAC." Take Israel out of this picture and replace it with a Muslim country like Turkey, and I would still be writing the same thing, but then you'd be hurling snide remarks about me be a "Turk."

Get off your high horse, please, and stop this childish game of hurling "traitor" labels. As they say, patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Ayhab,

As Marge said it once: "Some of them are just idiots"

Captain

I agree with your classification, with one caveat. I think that the traitors, liars (such as the resident two-blog/day Mafioso on this site who shamelessly lies and advocates war and destruction every single day), and "patriots" that you mention are a small minority, even if their noise is defeaning. I believe (although I cannot prove) that a very large majority of Iranians in the Diaspora, while despising the IRI and would help the democratic movement in any way they can, are also against war, economic sanctions, and interference in Iran's internal affairs. Based on what I know, I believe the same is true about Iranians who live in Iran.

I have always said: Reject what must be rejected, defend what must be defended (Iran's national interests), and criticize what must be criticized. In my view doing these is the hallmark of a patriot.

To those who are trying to give a facelift to the Pahlavis, I suggest to read the following article

 //www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/04/april-19-1975.html

That is just the tip of the iceberg. 

Thanks for your courageous, honest, and blunt blog. 

Mammad

I completely agree with VPOK,

Dismissing all opposition in one or two category and by association to the subject matter of this blog as traitors or at best out of touch with reality is naïve and just as propagandist as the other side.

There are many people here in opposition to the IRI regime who have paid dearly for their country, willing to defend her again at any time against any foreign aggression and only want the best for the people.

Mehrdad

No Fear

You are making a lot of unfounded assumptions. How do you know the people who left Iran were wealthy from North Tehran. There are over 4 million Iranians outside so are you telling me there were that many wealthy Iranians some 10% of the pre revolution population? If so then Afarin to the Shah for creating such a vast amount of wealth in the hands of so many Iranians. The Iranians in the West are as varied as anyone. In addition most of us don't live in LA! I don't.

Regarding hating Arabs. This is nothing new. I remember plenty of anti Arab feelings 30 or 40 years ago when I was a kid in Iran. Az bikh arabeh was used to mean stupid. Sure Arabs are unpopular among some Americans but anti Arabism is as old as their attack on Iran. It was reinforced due to their own 10 year was against Iran. I bet you there are plenty of Iranians who never left Iran who dislike Arabs as much as any Iranian in the West.

Regarding winning team: On every presidential election in the US roughly 50% of the America's population votes for the losing team. So I guess your statement about Americans is not ture or at least not about 50 % of them!

You need to stop making so many assumptions and generalizations. People are all different. That the real world.

No Fear...... it is Sociopath

Sociopath is used properly in this context.

A Sociopath is characterized by an abnormal lack of empathy combined with strongly amoral conduct, masked by an ability to appear outwardly normal.

-YT 

P_J

What is most astonishing treachery about some monarchist, particularly Reza Pahlavi is the fact that they are trying to give a face lift to one of the most tyrannical regimes in Iran, namely Pahlavi dynasty.

What makes me laugh the most about this group is that, firstly Reza Phalavi and his ilk is yet to own up to the crimes committed my Mohamad Reza Pahlavi and secondly by making the most criminally intended comparison to IR saying that Pahlavi Dynasty killed LESS people, so as result they are humanitarian and democratic.

Not to mention the fact that Reza Pahlavi is as much qualified to lead a revolution and run a country as I am qualified to debunk Einstein's theory of relativity.

To that All I have to say is my eye.

-YT 

Mehrdad e Bavafa

Excellent observation and I quite agree.

Any extremist group, be it in the far right[i.e. AIPAC, Neo Cons, or Monarchist] or in far left[ avid IR supporters] and the ones who fuel the criminal demand of attacking Iran.

In their twisted logic, If Iran is attacked, it is going to be the force behind massive uprising, which is going to topple IR.

WE all know exactly the opposite is going to happen, for two reasons.

First, Iranian from all walks of life are going to rise in defense of mother land. Patriotism among the nation has always been high .

Secondly such a move will empower IR and allow the to re consolidate their ranks causing an unprecedented blood shed and executions of all decedent groups within the boarders. IR should not be given this excuse, for there are so many lives at stake here.

Thanks for your input and time.

-YT 

Sociology, Not Sociopathic.

I support IR constitution and i am a strong Ahmadinejad supporter. I am also a muslim and I have served my country as well.

There are millions like me in Iran.  Note that i said " Iran" and i didn't say "north of tehran". What i believe is happening in IC , is a clash of different opinions among " one social class" of Iranians that had the finiancial means to travel aboard during economical, political and war time hardships in Iran. Whether this group of Iranians aboard can be effective in Iran's politics is debatable.

This class of diasporans and their aristrocratic views also does not represent any current political thoughts within Iran either. This results from adapting to the new value systems of the host country which will re shape  first generation migrants.

Their offsprings, second generation Iranians who were not born in Iran , are a completely different breed with NO emotional connection to Iran or its people , thus advocating harsher means of achieving democracy in Iran ( IE. bomb Iran,etc ). They are also staunch believers in American mighty powers and good will towards other nations. Any achievement by Iran is also rediculed since it is compared to the superior american version therefore, iranian is an inferior system.

Aligning yourself with a "winning team" is a give away sign of an american , while an Iranian almost always cheers for the under dog.

Hating arabs works well within this group since it aligns itself to the war on terrorism currently undertaken by the US, and creating a new sense of identity as the super Iranians , the Persians , by tying itself to some historic relevencies.

To my astonishment, growing up in these so called democracies, did not creat a progressive democratic movement of youth, but it has created a racsist, illogical and heartless group who can hardly recognise where their loyalties lies.

Interesting

At least you guys have some fun with your own jokes but that doesn't change the fact that you have no credibility and no one listen to your nonsense.

capt_ayhab

I quite agree with your assessment, although I think you forgot to mention the PROPAGANDISTS on this site.  They keep repeating these lies about the DISCREDITED Pahlavi family day and night!  For failures like Reza Pahlavi, they are trying for the "Gobles" affect, Hitler's propaganda Tsar!  He said that if LIES are BIG enough and mentioned often enough people would believe them.In my view some of them are professionals, being paid either from the EMBEZZELED loot, brought out by the Pahlavi's or some other nefarious source (i.e. CIA or AIPAC or others) to spread the word.Don’t forget that Stalin with all his power, ability and intellect could not do that, although he tried very hard!  These folks, the non professionals as well as the professional HUSTELERS are wasting their time.  They are trying to make a VICIOUS murdering TRAITOR like Mohammad Reza Pahlavi into Mother Theresa!  As if we are all BLIND and DEAF.  

Bavafa, lol

کون گوهی از خودش بد گمونه. دمت گرم، با حال بود.

cyclicforward ....Thinking may give you aneurysm

So try to avoid as much as possible. Concerned about your well being you know.

-YT 

I think you two should relax

There are a number of political fringe that I don't agree with or condone. There is however one thing that I am certain off and that is the fact that IRI needs to be eliminated. I have nothing to gain by this financially or any power and control. It is just that IRI has killed and killing innocent Iranians and sacrifices their life for the gain of a few.

So, you IRI stooges don't think for a minute anyone buys your nonsense anywhere on this planet. You are held accountable and you will pay for your crimes.

I suppose your blog

Ironically, I was thinking about the same subject matter early this morning and was wondering what causes a person to turn against his/her homeland. This question would specially apply to those of us who have lived and enjoy the citizenship of another nation (Iranian-American, Iranian-British, Iranian-Israeli, etc) who should are loyalty be with?

I suppose your blog answers some of that. I believe there are those who are just after self-interest and trying to make a buck or two and they are willing to muddy the water if that serves their interest. In my opinion, some of the hardcore IRI supporters and most of Zionist Israeli supporters are part of this category.

And there is another group that are motivated (I like to think they are blinded) by hatred and ignorance. The hatred is often fueled by religious beliefs and guide ness (whether the Jews hating the Muslim or the Muslim hating both Jews and Christians). They lack logic, spew the same garbage day in day out and serve only as a mouth piece.

And then there are the monarchist which in my belief they are in La La land but they are not the same as the above groups, most of them genuinely wants the best for Iranians and they do not advocate death and destruction on their home land. They see only one way forward and that is going to the past history which did not work.

And of course there is group of us that are steadfast against the IRI regime, want a democratic and independent regime in Iran but not willing to participate, advocate or help in any criminal war against our mother land. They believe IRI is a problem but it is our problem and need to be resolved by ourselves.

Mehrdad

Bavafa

Here is your chance. Say as you wish, so as long as you are within the subject matter.

-YT 

What I am interested to

What I am interested to know is if their hard effort has fruited any results at all? We have some on this very web site (i.e. Fred) with two-a-day blog ranting the same garbage day-in day-out and I am wondering if there is any body here, genuinely, that has changed his/her mind and now are in favor of death and destruction in Iran as a result of reading his blog.

We also have some hard core IRI supporters that have been spewing the same garbage, only the opposite direction and I like to know if any body has turned in favor of IRI as a result of those blogs?

Lets see the show of hand (metaphorically speaking) of those who have been enlightened by such extremism and out of touch with reality folks.

Mehrdad