Muslims, get a life!

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Muslims, get a life!
by Dale_Husband
05-Aug-2010
 

This is an open letter to all those who profess the Islamic religion.

Do you REALLY beleive in Allah, who is described throughout the Quran as ”the Merciful” as well as “Forgiving”? It seems that many of your comrades in faith do not and merely use His name to destroy people’s lives and freedom!

I have not forgotten how some of you threatened the life of Salman Rushdie in 1989 for writing his novel The Satanic Verses.  Did it ever occur to you that if Allah really found what he did to be that offensive, he would have struck down Rushdie Himself? The fact that He never did is evidence to me that either Allah could not do it (why worship such a weak god?) , or that he didn’t see fit to (why do yourselves what He would not?). In short, Allah willed the act of “blasphemy”. So why not condemn Him too? Why is your faith in Allah so weak, that you deem yourselves to be more of a judge of what is worthy of death than Allah Himself? Note that the one who passed the death sentence on Rushdie with a fatwa, Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, died soon afterwards, while Rushdie still lives today! It seems clear that it  was Khomeini who was the blasphemer, not Rushdie!

Do not be so foolish as to make anyone or anything, including the religion of Islam and the deeds and words of the Prophet Muhammad, above criticism! Remember that Muhammad himself strongly criticised the Jewish and Christian religions, even while stating that their followers were “People of the Book”. Likewise, allowing criticism of Islam in public is in keeping with the verse in the Quran that declares: “There is no compulsion in religion.” (Sura 2:256). How can there be no compulsion in religion if you threaten critics of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad with death, you hypocrites!?

Islam is not superior to any other religion. If you think otherwise, then why would Allah will the existence of other faiths? Why is Christianity still the most popular religion at nearly two billion followers? Is it not possible that Muhammad intended Islam for Arabs only rather than for all the peoples of the world? Why insist on one truth for the whole world when science cannot even find the existence of Allah anywhere, let alone the dogmas of Islam?

The Quran is but a book, revealed by Muhammad. To say that it is equal to Allah himself is blasphemy, yet I always get the impression that you seem to think every word of the Quran should be beleived in and obeyed absolutely. NO! Don’t you know that the Quran was not even completely assembled until several years after the death of Muhammad? How can we be sure all of it is accurately transcribed  and really from the Prophet?

I am disgusted by the practice of older Muslim men marrying girls as young as 12 and making them fall pregnant. What a violation of the girls’ dignity! Yes, I know Muhammad married a nine-year old girl. I also know that he and Aisha never had children, so it is possible that the marriage was never consummated. I’d rather beleive that than assume that he was a pedophile, as some have alledged! In any case, are you forgetting that the Prophet was a man and not to be seen as equal with Allah himself? Why assume that if Muhammad did something 1400 years ago, it must be right to do even today? Have you no minds of your own? If you are given brains by Allah and do not use them to determine truth from falsehood and morality from what is immoral, those brains are wasted and thus Allah is dishonored. If your only sources of truth and morality is Islam and the actions of Prophet Muhammad, what will you do if it is revealed to you on the Day of Judgement that Muhammad was not a Prophet at all? Honorable Skeptics like myself don’t worry about that, because we have morals that do not depend on any faith.

It is said among Muslims, “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his Prophet.” But an atheist would say, “There is no god and Muhmmad was no prophet.” If a Muslim denies Hinduism, the Baha’i Faith and atheism, why can’t the atheist and the Hindu deny Islam? (the Baha’i would not; all Baha’is see Muhammad as a Prophet.)

How dare you claim Islam is Allah’s final religion! Why put any limits on the Word of Allah? Why tell him to be silent and speak no more? Isn’t that also blasphemy? I think so!

Remember what the Quran also says, in Sura 109: “Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.” Follow THAT, and you will follow the example of Allah, who is Merciful.

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Rosie.

double

by Rosie. on Thu Aug 05, 2010 08:21 AM PDT

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Rosie.

Read that snippet you excerpted again, COP,

by Rosie. on Thu Aug 05, 2010 08:19 AM PDT

read it as many times as necessary, outloud and slowly if necessary, with new glasses if necessary, and when you are absolutely certain you have found the place where I said these types of blogs should be banned, show me.

And the legions of readers waiting with baited breath glued to the screen.

 


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Cost-of-Progress

What do you think this is saying?

by Cost-of-Progress on Thu Aug 05, 2010 08:08 AM PDT

"Jahanshah, I know it may have put you between a rock and a hard place, but you do realize that things like featuring these two blogs together are the reason why so many people are complaining about the site and some don't want to write for it anymore, right?"

The above passage addressed to I.com's founder a couple of posts ago is excatly that: advocating the blocking of such blogs.

BTW, do tell what your fascination is with iran....I understand you read/write Parsi..........interesting! 

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IRAN FIRST

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Rosie.

COP, I will look for it again...

by Rosie. on Thu Aug 05, 2010 08:02 AM PDT

if you will please just show me and the readers (who are undoubtedly riveted to their seats) where I said these types blogs should be banned.

I know you are busy, but maybe you could spare five minutes to do that.


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Cost-of-Progress

Rosie, it must be my turn today, ay?

by Cost-of-Progress on Thu Aug 05, 2010 07:57 AM PDT

I do not defend the imani and dale characters. What they say is their business, but they must be allowed to say it just like those beating their chests for the Islamic regime. 

and BTW, No, it wasn't me on that bahai blog. At least I don't remember that exchange. Besides, even if I did, it appears that I just told him that he was wasting his time.....I often criticize Islam deservedly, I must add, but stop short of doing the same to other religions. It isn't because I think they're any better, it is because, as I've said many times, Islam burned my "house" not those other religions.

Since you appear to have a lot of time on your hands, do find it, won't ya?

You just love drama, don't ya?

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IRAN FIRST

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nadeem khan

U R!

by nadeem khan on Thu Aug 05, 2010 07:49 AM PDT

Rosie is a Baha'i working for Baha'i Internet Agency


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Rosie.

COP, first of all,

by Rosie. on Thu Aug 05, 2010 06:43 AM PDT

don't put words in my mouth. Second of all, the man thinks he's Don Quixote charging in on his white horse, and there are plenty of practicing Muslims here and they don't need someone who's not Iranian telling them  how he will never forget how some of them threatened Rushdie and HOW DARE THEY this and that in his grandiose, self-congratulatory style,

and third of all weren't you on a blog recently that was a sober critique of certain aspects of Bahaism, I believe it was actually written by a Unitarian Bahai critiquing the dominant sect, the Haifans, and start off telling the guy in this smug tone that he was writing things that no one cared about because he had nothing better to do and how you would never bother to waste your time like that. But you had the time to bother telling him you wouldn't bother.

I can't find the blog. Maybe you can.  Or maybe it wasn't you. Or maybe I dreamed the whole thing.

If you say it never happened I will go back and look again for the blog with a very fine tooth comb.

If it wasn't you I most humbly apologize.


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Cost-of-Progress

Wait, so posting these blogs

by Cost-of-Progress on Thu Aug 05, 2010 05:54 AM PDT

should be banned because they criticize Islam? what are you? npr?

What about all the flaming pro-Islamist garbage that people post from militaryforum to no fear to nilofar arabi, to a whole host of others?  

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IRAN FIRST

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Rosie.

You read Imani's anti-Islam

by Rosie. on Thu Aug 05, 2010 07:39 AM PDT

You read Imani's anti-Islam blog,and you post this on his thread:

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Tite: You have great courage!

by Dale_Husband on Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:58 PM PDT

I have written my own statement against Islam. Here it is:

//circleh.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/muslims-get-a-life/

If you are brave enough to stand up against Islam, I can do no less!

Dale Husband, the Honorable Skeptic

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you couldn't even wait until there were other blogs up, no, you just HAD to post this one right away so the two could appear together as a matching tea set, it isn't even new, you just recycled it, but no, you just couldn't wait to enlighten Iranians on an Iranian website about how they threatened Rushdie and tell them to get a life, and you're not Iranian (neither am I btw), and then you pat yoursef on the back for your courage  in big bad dangerous Cyberspace.

And now you can justify away whatever I said  on the grounds that I'm a politically correct wuss.

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Jahanshah, I know it may have put you between a rock and a hard place, but you do realize that things like featuring these two blogs together are the reason why so many people are complaining about the site and some don't want to write for it anymore, right?

 

 


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Cost-of-Progress

The Never Ending Debate

by Cost-of-Progress on Thu Aug 05, 2010 05:35 AM PDT

All rational Iranians can hope for is that we have enough sense to be able to say some day soon:

"You know, this islam thing is great, but I don't want it to regulate every single aspect of my life every single day. I want a government that cares for the people and puts the country - the country - FIRST, not the religion. I'll keep the religion, but want a government that regards my heritage and identity as Iranian first and muslim...perhaps, a second......I want a government that holds Iran dear, sacred and precious."

I don't know what your interest is in Iran, perhasp you're married to an Iranian. In any case, this......, Dale, is how it goes.

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IRAN FIRST

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Aryana-Vaeja

نیست در هستی به جز یزدان

Aryana-Vaeja
Thu Aug 05, 2010 02:11 AM PDT

All exoteric religionists are by definition blasphemers and idolators. Doesn't matter whether they're Jews, Christians, Hindus, Bahais, Muslims, Zoroastrians or whatever. So long as there is any ontology articulated holding to absolute separation and opposition between the Divine Ground and the world, we are in the presence of pure idolatry and associationism (shirk). Muslims should simply take a big bottle of red wine and pour it all over the prayer mat and realize this Truth and liberate themselves from the prisons of their own minds! Baha'is and others should follow suit...

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Zoroastrian prayer


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