Overthrowing IRI

Looool

it's so great to see this kind of threads - which start as IRI propaganda and ends as dagger in their souls.

Annynomus-Iranian - 98% of Iranians are Molsem - true, but we evolve to become are erfanists - not Islamists.   You see my friend - Islam is a very necessary tool for mankind to evolve towards Erfan (Kheradmandi).   But when you flollow akhoonds you get stuck in ISlam and never reach Erfan as most Iranains do.   Despite all the pressures - We naturaly follow the teachings of Great men like Hafez, Molana, Ferdosi,....and other great Erfanists.     get it ?   

Islamists?

Of course we're islamists! iran is 98% muslim! what would you like us to be? roman catholic????

Abarmard and the rest of Iranians,lets expose IRI!!!!!

Please send this link to every one that we know,NOT BECAUSE WE FEEL SORRY FOR HOVEYDA,but to expose this corrupt regime!!!
Every one "so powerfull is the light of UNITY that can illuminate the whole earth".
Regards,
Tahirih
//uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7EoeJSzUo

Abarmard: why do you think

Abarmard: why do you think we are children and at the mercy of the "west"? Why don't we have enough faith and confidence in ourselves that even if the West has plan for us and we can use the West because our interest overlaps with them at this time? We need to get used to this competitive environment where any country who can use us, they will, including China, Russia, Germany, Italy, Saudis, etc. It's up to us to be vigilant and learn to navigate international politics in our own advantage. We need to get rid of this victim mentality and don't see ourselves as victims and accept and embrace challenges that the West might present us with. We have to empower ourselves with the knowledge of political discourse in the West and use that as leverage to get the best outcome.

So far, the Islamic Republic has been at the service of the West and if we want to change that; it's up to us to let the powers that be know that we are on to them.

Thanks Tahirih

So sad!

Was Hoveyda going to tell the world that these guys are part of the Western plan? This might make the theory that the west had a lot to do with the revolution more appealing. Makes you wonder what they have plans in their head for Iran now. We can write our own destiny and change Iran's course. We should not buy the American or Western crab about IRI or Iran and keep our focus on ourselves, the people. If this regime changes tomorrow, Any other regime with these westerners control won't let us be free and happy unless we fight for it. We the people!

Please watch this video,to see the depth of of Mullah's deceit!!

This is a small example of their ugly cheating and liying face. I am saying here for the record that I am not a fan of the man that they are talking about ,but the way they deceived people from hearing the truth is an example of their corupted mind and soul!!!

//uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7EoeJSzUo

Samir Amin who recently

Samir Amin who recently argued that political Islam is aligned with imperialism.

Most islamic movements are surprisingly skewed in their economic outlook against the very (usually poor) popular base that supports them. And many would cut a deal with the Imperialists if given a chance under the rubric "we would do a better job than those you support".

here is a link to Samir Amin's excellent article,

//www.monthlyreview.org/1207
amin.htm

West is Evil and IRI is dumb

West is evil. They are all over IRI to make life horrible for the Iranians. Ugly Condi says that the best wish for valentines day would be the resolution against Iran pass! what a bitch. Enjoying people's suffering. It's beyond IRI, this is personal. I hate these bastards.
On the other hand, IRI is so freaking dumb that in these harsh times, instead of helping the citizens relax, get on their nerves. They go mess with people who drink or 'bad hejab' and stuff like that.
In Iran right now situation is 'choob e doe sar goh'.
Yet regardless if we have one bit of pride and humanity in us, if we consider ourselves Iranian then we should stand against the west and let them know who they are hurting. The Iranians are hurting, and if they know that, they should know that we know that! Condi bitch, you are evil just like the Mullahs. There are not much difference between Bush and Ahmadinejad, just location and background is different.
I like the slogan here: Iranians Unite. The hell with IRI and the hell with those who are playing us.

RE:masoudA

You have seen more than what you are saying about the Iranians from the western powers, yet you don't seem to be too critical to them and kind of trust them. Could you explain why? I think you should focus on the contents and try to add or constructively bring about another point of view. If all of us did that things becomes clearer. Hey who cares if you THINK someone is an IRI agent and must be "Punished"!? No, you are no judge or have enough facts to make your decision. What you can do however is to discuss the issues that has been brought by anyone else in a logical steps and make your points. That's all and stop blaming our problems on each other. I say we are much more forgiving to the ones that actually has brought this to our nations over and over again, while not forgiving to one another. I don't even think any of us here have done anything wrong to any Iranians or agents of IRI or MKO or so forth.

Jesus and other critiques

I disagree with you. Actually the regime never enjoyed the full economical freedom and free trade. There always been a huge restrictions on doing business with Iranian companies. After the war, the economy of Iran began to show positive signs, and during the Khatami, if the west didn't interfere, was showing positive signs along with a bit of political openness. I believe the cap to do business with Iran has never been allowed to be more than 20 million dollars. Iran has more small business of production than the entire middle east. The small businesses and shops in Iran are hurting now. They are the ones who employ young and help the economy. I know that the regime (especially Ahmadinejad gang) are enjoying the sanctions, so there must be something wrong with it. I agree with Daryush that a regime that is not Democratic would not want her people to be empowered. How else would you empower them?
I think here most of us have agreed on these assumtions:
-The West is behind IRI and Iranian problem
-The Iranians are suffering because of sanctions
-The West wants more sanctions and continuation of them
-The Iranians don't!

So if we knew then what we know now...Wait a minute, things are repeating and we know now what we knew then, so why get fooled by the western powers, again?
We need to help our Iranian brother and sisters, and that is something that neither IRI wants or the west. Actually they both are enjoying Iranian separations and lack of directions in the west.
I double that and say Iranians Unite.

Why don't Iranians trust each other - you ask ?

Iranians trust each other - and are kind to one another - more or less, just like any other.   However,

We have a mullah regime that strives and survives on propaganda.   Can you relate to that ?  That means instead of building economical infrastructure, the mullahs hire losers like Cyrus or Xerxes (often very cheap) to promote their cause.   Calling TV talk shows, posting on the internet, attending rallies,.... it's all part of the IRI propaganda - and most Iranians are smart enough to detect these tugs.   We also realize there are many good Iranian men and women out there who have broken all ties with Iran and solely pursue their personal and social interests in the west.   One such interest may be to support "Anti War" causes, which no-one can argue against - except for the helpless Iranian population who is suffering under occupation hoping for rescue.   

to: Mehran

Dear Mehran

In response to your question as per what can be done, all I can say and that's only my humble opinion, we need to give strong priorities to the sevaral serious issues affecting our country. First, we need to accept that in such a globalized world and bearing in mind the nature of Iran's wealth and its location, so long as there's oil and natural gas there, there will be direct and or indirect intensive Wester and foreign interference in Iran's affairs. This has become even easier now, with the millions of Iranians abroad... therefore, we should accept this as part of this dependable economic system.

Another issue is, the severe cultural damage being currently caused to our nation by the IRI. The IRI needs to be replaced asap and the arabization process stopped as this is causing dramatic negative and long lasting effects on Iran.  The IRI has expired and its only matter of time that it collapses under its own weight, but then a lot needs to be done by us culturally.  Saving our identity and culture first, and somehow getting along with the Western powers when it comes to sharing Iran's resources, it's the only thing we'll be able to do. First thing first.

To the Author

No sanctions, no revolution, no blood??? If you are a realistic person, whom I doubt looking at this article, those are the tools that can result getting rid of the fascist Shia IRI. I'm not sure what part of Iran you are from but if you discuss your thought within Kurdistan, Baluchistan or Lorestan region they def criticize you for what you are standing for. Be realistic my friend.

Only businessmen, and politicians lacking knowledge

I have yet to hear a sound and concrete argument for lifting the sanctions on Iran from an economic perspective. The people who desire the lifting of the sanctions are Iranian american businessmen waiting to take their chunk of the cake, or politicians in the west who have little understanding of economic concepts. There is a mix of opinions out there, but if you read it from a economist perspective, especially those specialized in the political dimensions of economics, many have written that it is normally not the U.S sanctions on countries that hurt the economies of those countries, but the internal mismanagement.
Daryush's arguments are bogus at best. For a decade and a half, Iran had complete freedom to trade with Germany, and EU, in the same period between 1990, and 2003, the price of german goods and parts increased at an annual rate which was higher than inflationary rate of the Iranian economy. This is when Iran also had unlimited credit access within EU. The fact is that most of the mullah cronies-businessmen do not pass on the lower prices to consumers, they simply pocket extra earnings. In other words, if a dell computer is 200 today in Iran, sanctions are lifted, the computer real price might drop to 150, but the actual purchase price in Iran will remain at 200. There is lack of competition, and mullahs have taken over factories, and newly opened businesses that have competed with their interest. This happens all the time because of lack of law. The extra $50 bucks is simply pocketed.
Daryush, your IR friends here keep preaching the rest of us opposing the government to visit Iran, and see it for ourselves. I have been there, I know how it is. I suggest you do the same, and see how business is done, that is medieval, bazzar style business.

TEAM WORK

Arezoo Joon

I have to agree with you on that. These articles about IRAN WAR are worthless conversations. There is a new book out called IRAN OIL: NEXT CONFLICT. The West does not care about democracy. We need to work as a team to turn that country into paradise like Spain, Italy, or Greece.
The era of British domination is over. Last week, the Russians sent spy planes over U.S. ships to stay away from Asian borders and last year, they threat U.S. military bases in Eastern Europe. AMERICA is losing its hegemony in the world, and there is no military capibility against IRAN.

Why are Iranians so suspicious of one another?

I totally agree with Daryush, what he says makes logical sense.

Why are we so suspicious of one another? How do we think that as a people we can ever work on behalf of our people and our country and help her meet the challenges of our times with any form of a regime if there is such a mis-trust?

Why can't we break out from the shackles that have imprisoned us and separated us from one another?

There is no one who is going to work for the best interest of our country and our people but us.

Common people, we can't bring about positive change if we can't change our own behavior and attitude.

سرمايه گذاری

سرمايه گذاری برای ترويج و فهم زبان عربی و درک معانی قرآنی

//www.iranpressnews.com/source/036185.htm

22 بهمن روز

22 بهمن روز کثیفیه امروز . روز
سرخوردگی و نابودی و ذلت ملتی بزرگ . همیشه دلم خواسته زمان به عقب بر میگشت
ولی متاسفانه دو چیز در جهان هستی هستن که هرگز به گذشته بر نمیگردن . یکی
زمان و یکی عمر انسان که اگر این دو به عقب بر میگشتن و یا مثل بازیهای
کامپیوتری قابلیت Save و Load داشتن , شاید جهان بهشت میشد .
29 سال قبل
در چنین روزی شالوده یکی از کثیف ترین حکومت های جهان پی ریزی شد . حکومتی که
پایه های اون با دروغ و ریا و خون بنا شده . حکومتی که امروز باعث شده ملتی
بزرگ , در قهقرا قرار بگیرن . ملتی که بی انگیزه باشن . سر خورده از روزگار .
ناامید . بی هدف . دروغ گو و پلید . خودخواد و زیاده خواه . حریص . پست و رذل
. دروغ نیست اگر بگیم تمام این القاب به تک تک ما کاملن و به سادگی میچسبه .
همه ما دروغگو و بد ذات هستیم . من , تو .. همه ! و فقط مایی که در این کشور
زندگی میکنیم . مایی که در این کشور ریشه گرفتیم و رشد کردیم و بزرگ شدیم
.
نباید ناراحت شد و از حقیقت فرار کرد چون ذات همه ما پلید و نیرنگ بازه
. در واقع باید هم همین باشه و اگر غیر از این بود جای تعجب داشت . میدونین
چرا ؟ چون در کشوری زندگی میکنیم که صداقت یعنی حماقت . صاف و ساده و بی ریا
بودن مساویست با محروم شدن از حقوق اجتماعی ناچیزی که داری . در همه امور و
در همه شئونات این زندگی نکبت بار باید دروغ گفت باید دو رو بود . باید حقیقت
رو کتمان کرد . در غیر این صورت از زندگی ساقط میشی .
ما عادت کردیم دروغ
بگیم . صورتمونو با سیلی سرخ نگه داریم . همیشه ادعا کنیم میدونیم و عاقلیم .
همیشه وانمود میکنیم ما بهترین و صادق ترین انسانها هستیم در صورتیکه کذاب
ترین و بدترین ها هستیم . بهترین های ما , بدترین های ما هستن . و باید بود .
باید اینگونه بود . در جنگلی بزرگ سرگردانیم و قانون جنگل فقط یک قانونه .
اگه نخوری , میخورنت . در این جنگل قدرت حرف اول رو میزنه . قوی نباشی ,
نابود میشی و شالوده قدرت در نکبت و ریا و دروغ پی ریزی میشه چون این قدرت
نامشروع و بر پایه دروغ بنا شد و گریبانش همه ما رو گرفت . پس ناچاری همین
باشی .
در محیط خانواده و زمانیکه نوزادی , با دروغ آشنا میشی و باید از
ترس لولو بخوابی . وقتی رشد میکنی و میری توی باغچه ؛ مادرت برای اینکه بیایی
بیرون اولین دروغ ها رو سرهم میکنه : بیا بیرون ! جوجو میخورت !!!!! و این
جوجو 20 سال بعد تبدیل به لولو سر خرمنی بنام دولت میشه ! دولتی که دیگه جوجو
نیست و با کسی شوخی نداره !
تا حالا با ایرانیانی برخورد کردین که درست در
زمان انقلاب از ایران رفتن و دیگه قدم به این خاک نکبت زده نذاشتن تا به
امروز ؟ من زیاد دیدم . زیاد سر و کار داشتم . آدمهای خیلی خوبی هستن و یا
لاقل میشه گفت آدمهای خوب و پاکی بودن چون اونا رو هم ما خراب کردیم . اونا
رو هم بد گمان کردیم و شدن مثل مارگزیده هایی که از ریسمان سیاه و سفید
میترسن . حالا اگه با تمام وجود جلوشون قسم بخوری که کاری نکردی یا حقیقت
همینی هست که داری میگی , دیگه باورت نمیکنن . درست مثل همون خارجی های
بدبختی بودن که زمانی هیچی سرشون نمیشد و ساده و بی ریا بودن . ولی حالا همه
خارجی ها شدن ختم روزگار .
تا حالا توی اداره مهاجرت کشورهای خارجی پرسه
زدین ؟ تا حالا تقاضای ویزای کشوری خارجی یا تقاضای پناهندگی کردین ؟ تا حالا
پاتون به سفارت کشوری خارجی باز شده ؟ اگه سر و کارتون با این افراد و این
مکان ها افتاده باشه معنی صداقت ایرانی رو بخوبی متوجه میشین . معنی کاری که
ما با اینها کردیم رو میفهمین . میفهمین که 20 سال قبل وقتی میرفتی اداره
مهاجرت و تقاضای پناهندگی میکردی و بهت میگفتن چرا میخواهی پناهنده بشی ؟ و
تو به دروغ میگفتی چون تو کشورم منو میکشن و درجا بهت پناهندگی میدادن و
امروز وقتی که از ترس زندان و اعدام از کشورت فرار میکنی و قاچاقی و به سفارت
کشوری پناهنده میشی برای حفظ جونت و یه بغل مدرک و پرونده نشونشون میدی که
جونت در خطره , تو رو دستبند میزنن و تجویل مقامات کشورت میدن و میگن : برو
این خالی ها رو برای عمه ت ببند !!!!!!!

و حالا بیچاره اون ایرانیانی
که سالها دور از وطن بودن و بعد از سالهای سال بیخبری و بسته بودن راه ارتباط
با گشوده شدن ناگهانی درهای ارتباط جهانی یا همون اینترنت , سرخوش و شادمان
سعی کردن پلی بین دو نسل درون و خارج بزنن و ارتباطاتی برقرار کنن و از چند و
چون این دو نسل با خبر بشن غافل از اینکه چه افعی های خوش خط و خالی در
کمینشون نشستن . بیچاره ها فکر کردن نسلی رو میبینن که صادق و انسانه و
میتونن بهشون اعتماد کنن . ولی فقط همون ارتباطات اولیه حالیشون کرد که با
موجوداتی طرف هستن که حتا روح خودشون رو هم فریب میدن و به شیطان درس میدن .
با انسانهایی روبرو شدن که از هویتشون گریزان بودن . با انسانهایی روبرو شدن
که حتا به خودشون هم شک داشتن . کسانیکه ختا وحشت داشتن خود واقعیشون رو نشون
بدن . با افرادی روبرو شدن که نقاب به چهره داشتن . نقابهایی زیبا و فریبنده
و در پشت این نقاب , ابلیسی قرار داشت که ذره ذره به ذات پاک این انسانها
رخنه میکرد و اونها رو فاسد .
و چه جذاب بود برای این دغل بازان فته بر
انگیز , پیدا کردن طعمه های بی ریایی که هر حرفی رو باور میکردن . چقدر
فریبنده و جذاب بود این شکارهای ساده . فکرشو بکن در دنیایی زندگی میکردی که
پدر به مادر دروغ میگفت و مادر سر پدر شیره میمالید . بچه به هر دو دروغ
میگفت و هر دوی والدین به فرزند دروغ میگفتن . جامعه به خانواده دروغ میگفت و
خانواده به جامعه و جامعه به حکومت و حکومت به همه و حتا سر خدا هم گلاه
میذاشتن در صورتیکه حکومتشون الهی بود و بیچاره این خدای مادر مرده که به
اونم رحم نکردن ! نیرنگ حکم بقا بود برای همه ما . شده بود فرهنگ ما . فرهنگ
جالبی هم بود . فرهنگی که ریشه در فقر و محرومیت داشت . فرهنگی که ریشه در
کاستی ها و کمی ها داشت . فرهنگی که ریشه در فساد داشت . فرهنگی که ریشه در
بقا داشت . وقتی میدیدی دروغ نگی کارت راه نمی افته , جونت به خطر میافته ,
از امکانات جامعه محروم میشی , حقت رو میخورن , شکمت گرسنه میمونه , باید
دروغ میگفتی و بجز این چاره ای نداشتی . مگه میشه همرنگ جماعت نشد و دووم
آورد ؟
مادری که کوپن شیر سهمیه شده برای بچه ش میخواست و کفافش رو نمیداد
باید دروغ های شاخدار سر هم میکرد تا سهمیه بیشتری بگیره . وقتی توی صفی می
ایستادی که مطمئن بودی بهت نوبت نمیرسه , باید داشتن بچه یتیم و حامله بودن و
بیمار بودنت رو بهانه میکردی . وقتی منشی دکتری بهت وقت نمیداد و میگفت 6 ماه
دیگه بیا , باید به دروغ میگفتی از شهرستان اومدی و جایی برای خواب نداری و
... ! وقتی هم میدیدی ترفندهات کارگر افتاده , این ترفندها رو همه جا بکار
میبردی و اینبار زنگ میزدی به دکتر و یکراست میرفتی سر اصل مطلب و خودتو
شهرستانی معرفی میکردی . همون اول صف غش میکردی و خودتو به موش مردگی میزدی !
نسخه دروغین دکتر دستت میگرفتی و از صد نفر گدایی میکردی . هر روز کیف پولت
گم میشد و از مردم گدایی میکردی ! لباس مامور دولت رو میپوشیدی و مردم رو
سرکیسه میکردی ! سنگ مفت بود و گنجشک از اون هم مفت تر ... پدر وقتی پول
نداشت خرج خانواده کنه به دروغ رو میاورد . جایزه قبولی فرزندش رو نداشت بخره
و میگفت سال دیگه برات میخرم . میدیدی ازدواج کردی و هنوز هدیه پدرت به دستت
نرسیده ! مادر وقتی از پدر خسته بود و پی ریزی خیانت رو میچید , به دروغ پناه
میبرد . اینقدر دروغ گفتیم و اینقدر پیچ تاب بهش دادیم تا شد جزئی از زندگی
ما . امروز اگه کسی دروغ نگه تعجب میکنیم ! امروز اگه کسی خودش باشه تعجب
میکنیم . امروز اگه کسی در خونه ت رو بزنه و ازت پول بخواد خودش میدونه جوابت
نه! هست . ولی دیروز اینطور نبود .. اینقدر هم قشنگ خودمونو توجیه میکنیم و
میگیم : طرف لازم نداره و میخواد بگیره فلنگ رو ببنده . و عجبا که همین هم
هست ! انگار تو این شهر کذابان , همه دست هم رو میتونن به سادگی بخونن الا
اون بیچاره هایی که اینجا نبودن و با ما زندگی نکردن . میان ایران چنان
تیغشون میزنیم که چند سال بعد تازه دوزاریشون میافته چه بلایی سرشون آوردیم .
وقتی یه سفر میان ایران برای گردش و خرید , نمیدونن وقتی فروشنده جنسی رو 10
هزار تومن اعلام میکنه , قیمت واقعی اون جنس 500 تومنه !!! و اینو فقط یه حقه
بازی میدونه که تو این مملکت زندگی کرده ! کسی میدونه که وقتی میره بقالی
میبینه ؛ بقال داره با ماژیک روی قیمت احناسش خط میکشه تا اون جنس رو به هر
قیمتی که خودش دوست داره بهت بده و تو هم میخری با رضایت کامل !!!!

از
باز شدن درهای ارتباط بین ما و جهان خارج 10 سالی میگذره . در این ده سال
مخاطبان ما محزون و سر خورده شدن و دارن به این نتیجه میرسن که قید ما و
وطنشون رو برای همیشه بزنن . تشنه و عاشق کشورشون , ایران هستن . ولی وقتی به
سر تا پای وطن نگاه میکنن هیچ آشنایی ای درش نمیبینن و حالشون از ما و
کشورشون به هم میخوره و غربت رو به وطن ترجیح میدن . همه چی رنگ ریا میده .
وطن اونی نیست که روزی بخاطر حفظ جونشون گذاشتنش و رفتن تا زمانی دوباره
برگردن . هم وطن هاشون چقدر غریبه شدن ... با هم سال نوری فاصله دارن . امروز
در 22 بهمن ماه 1386 , سر آغاز حکومتی رو مثلن جشن میگیریم که باعث شدن ملتی
فنا بشن و این ذلت بیافته . از همون روزی که خمینی ملعون بیشرف و بزرگ
شارلاتان جهان , بعد از برگشت به ایران و تکذیب تمام قول و قرارهای خودش با
انقلابیون باعث شد حکومتی تشکیل بشه که پایه در دروغ و ریا داشت , ایران هم
نابود شد ... امروز ما مردم ایران از بخت بد خودمون خون گریه میکنیم . ولی
کار بیهوده ای میکنیم . چون ما بعد از 29 سال داریم دستاوردی رو نوش جان
میکنیم که خودمون پختیم . خودمون پرورش دادیم و خودمون پذیرفتیمش . ما طرفدار
خکومتی شدیم که با دروغ روی کار اومد و حامی اون شدیم و حتا نخواستیم فکر
کنیم که وقتی حکومتی با دروغ پایه ریزی میشه , نمیتونه مردمی باشه . نمیتونه
تابع دموکراسی و آزادی باشه و زمانی این حقیقت رو فهمیدیم که خودمون هم جزئی
از اون شدیم . حالا امروز ما از این مینالیم که چرا گرفتار هیولایی هستیم که
هستی ما رو به غارت میبره و جرات نداریم اعتراض کنیم . در صورتیکه این حکومت
شایسته ماست و لیاقت ما چنین حکومتیه . این حکومت برازنده ماست . مایی که
خودمون هم مثل اونیم . ما افتخار کشورمون اینه که 80% جمعیتش جوان و
تحصیلکرده هستن . ولی همین جماعت تحصیل کرده و جوان ما دچار بیماری عجیبی
هستن . بیماری دروغ گویی ! بیماری وقاحت ! بیماری شارلاتانی ! بیماری هزل
گویی و رکیک گویی ! بیماری توهین به خود و هر عقیده مخالف خودشون ! توهین به
انسان و انسانیت ! بیماری شکاکیت رو داریم . به سایه هم شک داریم . هیچ کدوم
ما به هم اعتماد نداریم . هیچ حرفی رو به سادگی باور نمیکنیم .
امروز
فریاد کسانی رو میشنویم که به حال مردم ما گریه میکنن . به حال جوون های ما .
بیچاره ها نمیدونن برای این خیل عظیم بیماران , درمانی و عاقبتی نیست . شاید
بهتر باشه بجای اینکه اونها رو زیر تیغ اتهام قرار بدیم فقط به این بسنده
کنیم که : نیش عقرب نه از ره کین است , اقتضای طبیعتش چنین است ... بله !
وقتی در دروغ بزرگ میشی , ذاتت میشه دروغ . تقصیر نداری . با اندوهی عظیم
اعتراف میکنم که من و همه ما ذاتمون دروغگوست . ذاتمون شکاکه . اینقدر بی
اعتمادیم به هم که همدیگه رو دوست خطاب میکنیم . با هم صحبت میکنیم . با هم
رابطه دوستانه داریم . ولی وقتی قرار میشه با هم ارتباط رودر رو داشته باشیم
, همدیگه رو به اطلاعاتی بودن متهم میکنیم . به جاسوس بودن . به خائن بودن !
به همین سادگی . وقتی پدر و مادرت از پشت بهت خنجر زدن , از غریبه انتظار چی
داری ؟ و ما اینطور بزرگ شدیم و این درد بزرگیه ... این طاعونی برای نسل ماست
. ما نه تنها نسل سوخته هستیم , که نسلی بیمار و کذابیم ... دوست داشتم دکمه
Load زندگی رو میزدم و به عقب بر میگشتم و همه پل های خراب پشت سرم رو درست
میکردم ولی متاسفم که زندگی بازی کامپیوتری نیست و از همه مهمتر اینکه زندگی
بازیچه دست آدمهای احمقی مثل ما نیست ... فراموش شدیم و همه رهامون کردن ,
کاش اینها فراموشمون نمیکردن ..

Eh...eh...eh...eh! Daryush!

You can't claim:

"my position has been against any foreign interference"

and 

"taazeh yaadetan baashe keh gharb IRI ro mikhad, IRI be naf'e gharb kar mikoneh" 

So if the regime works for the West and the West decides to get rid of it, wouldn't it be a good thing, for Iranians?   

I posted this response on another thred to a similar argument you made, there.   

Do you believe, for a minute, that meaningful negotiations and a relationship can be established with the IRI that is void of kheymeh shab bazi?  Have you forgotten the 444 days of negotiations over the American hostages, or the more recent “negotiations” over the nuclear issue?  Do you, for one minute, really believe that the IRI will go into a relationship with the West, for the benefit of the Iranian society and people?  They have had 30 years to demonstrate their good will towards the Iranian population and have failed miserably.  The IRI has looted the nation’s wealth for the khodies and their mercenaries in Lebanon, left Iran a destitute country with unemployment and inflation, addiction and prostitution.  They have resorted to every kind of atrocity known to mankind, to suppress opposition and ensure their own survival. Their single minded concern has been to brain wash children to bring up a generation of khodies to ensure the regimes survival.  How is a relationship with the West that would, in your mind, encourage reform, going to guarantee their survival?  Wouldn’t reform mean the death sentence for them?  You may believe you can fool others, but at least be honest with yourself. 

Why should America, after 30 years of humiliation, extend a hand to the IRI?  Why not expect the IRI to cut down on rhetoric, and if they can tolerate reform, to express readiness for negotiations, with the West?       

Kamangir

I like what you are saying, it makes a lot of sense. What do you think the solution could be. I am interested to hear.

Key Factor!

To really understand why the IRI is still in power after 3 decades we have to bear in mind the key factor.  There was no revolution in the first place. The IRI was and is a western product for the West despite current appearances. The only reason the IRI has managed to stay in power has to do with the fact that the hidden powers and sometimes not so hidden powers of the West want it in power. Whatever form of regime that replaces the IRI will be another product of the West. 

The West does not want Iran to be Iranian as then you'd inevitabely have Iranians like Mosadegh and others trying to honestly benefit Iran. The West is in the process of Arabization of Iran through the IRI. The key factor is that the West is not against the IRI and was not against the Pahlevi Monarchy, no, they are against Iran and specially against its Persian soul. It may sound bizarre, but in this is the reality.

The point of Sanctions are

to weaken a country so when there is a way with that country it will be fast and easy!

Iraq is an example. Iran is next.

KavehV and all

I liked the points that you make. It makes sense. I don't think that the west knows that the Iranian people would uprise if the economy is good. Just like the Shah time. That's how Iranians are. Keep them hungry and they are busy making the living and leave the system alone. I think that the west is behind IRI to keep these guys in power so we can stay behind times. We all know that Iran is not a country to stay behind, just needs a progressive regime. The suggestion is attractive, let's focus our attention to the people of Iran, Not 70 million, but a mass majority would benefit that would cascade down to the rest of the society in no time. I bet the west doesn't like us Iranians talking about empowering the people of Iran, and there is reason for that. People Unite. This actually is the best option I heard since the beginning of evil IR.

Daryush: How about writing

Daryush: How about writing to IR and asking them to stop financing and training the Shiite Militia in Iraq to kill Palestinian-Iraqis. There are about 1000 palestinians in Iraq who had to escape their houses and sought protection from the US troops. How about writing to IR and asking to stop the hanging of US and Israeli flag from a crane. How about asking them to help Imad Mughnieh's terrorists who just died today in Syria. How about writing to IR and asking them to stop pitting Lebanese Shia against Sunni Lebanese, Christians, Druze, and maronites???? How about writing to IR and asking them to stop arming Taliban?

It may be interesting to

It may be interesting to look into the effect of lifting the sanctions with the current state of affairs in IRI.

First, most of the economic sanctions are targeted at the military/security apparatus of the regime and not the civilians. There are, however, sanctions on dual use technologies and other overlapping areas that are affecting the civilian population. This is the direct consequence of regime's posture and policies on a number of international issues.

If one imagines the lifting of all sanctions today, what are the immediate consequences?
How much of a hope does independent private sector has to participate in global commerce when they are at the mercy of regime's regulators ?

Wouldn't the front companies and businesses for IRGC, Basij, Islamic X, Islamic Y and other IRI officials be the first to benefit from lifting of these sanctions to purchase dual use hardware, electronics etc. for dubious and terror activities in Lebanon, Syria, Gulf states and Africa ? Building mosques, houses and weapons for Lebanese and Syrians, as they already do. Where is the benefit for Iranians ?

Manufacture cheap light arms for export to African countries and generate more bloodshed and hate (in hope of propagating their Isalm) ? By their own admission, IRI sold over $100 million dollars worth of light arms in 2006, mostly to Africa.

These interferences in other country's affairs are a great liability for the future of Iran, whether in Africa, or Middle East. This is money out Iranian pocket that is used for bloodshed and hate without any benefits for Iranians. These are investments in Islamic hate that will, if continued, some day bring more shame and pain to Iran.

The world will always be ready for trade with Iran, but first, give us some measure of confidence that global trade will start to benefit 70 million in Iran. That your internal environment is conducive to trade, investment and up to world standards. Show us political, social and economic reform before blaming the world for imposing sanctions on your uncivil, barbaric socio-political system (stringing people by the neck from cranes, social and gender humiliations and total social lunacy, etc.).

Iranian President Mahmoud

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, addresses a crowd during a rally to celebrate the 29th anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution at Azadi Square, Tehran, Iran, Monday, Feb. 11, 2008. In 1979, more than five million people lined the streets of the nation's capital, Tehran, to witness the homecoming of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. His return led to the 1979 Islamic revolution that toppled the regime of the pro-U.S. Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.
(AP Photo/Hasan Sarbakhshian) Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told those who came out for Revolution Day that his administration is supported by the Hidden Imam.
Rooz News reported:

In a gathering to commemorate the anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Mahmoud ‎Ahmadinejad blasted government critics and claimed that his administration is supported by the ‎Hidden Imam. ‎

In his speech, Ahmadinejad accused his domestic critics of aiding foreign enemies, noting his ‎administration's remarkable achievements in various fields since taking office in 2005, despite ‎efforts by some "to destroy the administration from the very beginning." ‎
//www.roozonline.com/english/archives/2008/02...

Iran Sends Greetings to the USA On Revolution Day

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The IRI is not long for this world

The U.S. will not engage in any first-strike military action against Iran. Among the reasons:

1. It simply lacks the assets, equipment and personnel to do so effectively. The U.S. military is dangerously depleted and spread thin throughout hostile areas, as well as peacetime posts.

2. There is no support for such action by any entity. It would be a public relations nightmare that would make the Iraq mess the equivalent of breaking wind in church.

The Islamic Republic will

The Islamic Republic will not be attacked by the US. It is not in our interest to start another war...however, the regime's usefulness has expired and will collapse as soon as the oil prices goes down.

RE: Anonymousp, am interested in your....

Anonymousp,
You hit the nail on the head. I am just not sure if the existence IRI is still part of the West's plan, or is an unintended consequence (backfire) of their plans.

Anonymousp

Everything you said is fine until the US attack. If US attacks, Iranians will unite. It won't be easy and I believe Iranians have no problem prolonging the war. As far as I know, in case of a US attack, US government has a better chance of collapsing than the Iranian, since they (IRI) feed from wars! (Bush does too but he'll be long gone)
In the long run though, I believe that Iran will become friends with the US since we both have the same interests in the region.