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Bigots are charlatans

The video posted at this blog is a hack job that's been selectively cut-and-pasted from a longer interview to distort what Glaysher is implying, as explained at

//iranian.com/main/blog/maghshoosh/iris-b...

Also note that one of the responders below, MaryamJoon, starts by pretending she doesn't know anything about this topic but w/in a short time becomes so knowledgeable that she's conducting a nutty anti-Baha'i crusade at this site, posting several incoherent anti-Baha'i blogs consecutively.  She's suddenly such an expert that she's even advocating for one interpretation of Baha'ism over another in the comment below.  Pathological lying comes natural as part of their crusade.

Reform Bahais seem more sensible than the Israeli-Haifa Bahais

Of course Iranian Bahais are our own children, but also people have to know that there is a political game in the background; and they have to know that most Bahais are notIranians (and these foreigners make themselves involved in Iranian issues on behalf of Israel).  If a child is Iranian, and wants to stay Bahai, I would say to them do NOT follow the Haifa-Israeli-Bahai ... there are other groups of Bahai for them to join. Here is a group that says they are not connected to Israel and criticizes the Haifa-Israeli-Bahai Political Group and Military Propaganda Operations. 

Reform Bahai Press 

5224 Aintree Road
Rochester, MI 48306-2713      

Phone: (248) 652-4982

Dear frazelle09 - a serious source doesn't mean proselytizing

As to the link you provided, after having looked it over, neither I nor anyone who has a secular intellectual curiosity about what the person in the video on this blog says, considers a link that contains proselytizing information a serious source. Proselytizing information is for finding converts - academic sources are for evaluating information and making a reasoned judgment. 

Abdu'l-Bahá's KBE (Knight of the British Empire)

Not interested in Sen McGlinn's fairly tails about what a KBE is.  

KBE = Knight of the British Empire. 

At the height of British-Colonialism, when the British Occupied the lands of others and killed millions of people and plundered their resources, they offered and Abdul Baha accepted a Knighthood.  Colonial-Britain was not engaging in humanitarian deeds.  They were occupying India, stealing its wealth and raping their children, and causing a famine in Bangladesh.  Their activities in Africa are well known.  People can look up BRITISH COLONIALISM (they don't need Sen McGlinn or Jen McGlinn - there are recognized historians that have written on the topic).

'Abdu'l-Bahá and Knighthood

Dear reader.  Upon visiting this blog recently i ran across some references which seemed to express doubt as to 'Abdu'l-Bahá being awarded the KBE.

A simple perusal of Google "'Abdu'l-Baha knighthood" revealed some 75,000 references to this topic.  One of the first and perhaps most interesting is:

//senmcglinn.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/abdu%E2...

This site also contains photos from The British National Archives, one of which is "List of Persian Honorary Members of Various British Orders".  It lists the name of 'Abdu'l-Bahá Abbas under the letters K.B.E. as well as another Persian gentleman.

Have a wonderful evening!  :)

"The earth is one country and mankind its citizens."

Bahá'u'lláh

Some things here, kind of remind me of this video

FORMER BAHAI ASSEMBLY LEADER ON VIDEO (Bahá'í Brainwashing Corporation): "I've been a Bahai since 1976 ... Reagan needed a bludgeon to beat Iran and the Bahai faith is useful for that purpose.  The Bahai faith uses US and Israeli government officials against Iran. ... The Bahai administration misleads people about what it is. ... Bahai doctrine manipulates its followers ... Bahai conduct is ruthless ... Bahais harass people, engage in personal slander and abuse to obscure downplay and conceal facts.  The whole focus of the Bahai faith is on self-serving censorship and manipulation.  Their websites are highly censored and manipulated to a point that is almost unbelievable and include methods to manipulate internet searches."  

It's an interview, and those are his words ...

... and as a 40 year veteran of the Bahai movement when he says their members attempt to censor websites, to an extent that even he finds "unbelievable," that's saying something ... it's in the middle of the interview.

Dear Terry McBride

Thanks for dropping by to inform us in 63 words that you are ignoring this blog :)

This is the point...

....the Colonial-British government, which at that point was causing
LITERALLY thousands of massacres against millions of people all over the
globe in lands under British-Colonial occupation.  A British KBE at
that point in time is akin to getting a 'good leadership' medal from
Ghenghis Khan in the eyes of most Iranians...

Which ever way you cut it.

Iran

Cannot be the Baha'i homeland simply because by their own reckoning Bahaism was born in Baghdad, although the true fact of the matter is that it was born in Edirne (Adrianople) on the Black Sea coast in Ottoman, Turkey. Babism was indeed born in Iran and they are their own independent religion known as the Bayan. Baha'ism was technically born outside of Iran so by that mere fact alone cannot be an Iranian religion but an Ottoman Turkish religion.

مآمور جان

I don't know anything specifically about this. Abbas Effendi's half-brother makes a lot of allegations about him in this vein and the Abbas Effendist Baha'is have made similar allegations back about his half-brother. Whether the children which resulted from any such purported hanky-panky are the current leaders of the Palestinian Authority is difficult to prove. I know Mahmoud Abbas has been accused of being a secret Baha'i several times in print, but the allegers have never really given anything by way of convincing evidence. It is possible he is; it is possible he is not. He has so far denied it.

(1)  It's a stretch to

(1)  It's a stretch to call Iran the homeland of the Bahai movement when for 160 years under both secular and religious governments, the Bahai's overt political movement (evidence of which is amply represented on this site) was independently and repeatedly rejected by the majority of Iranian people and governments.  Imagine George Bush trying to run for the same office for 160 years and getting rejected - there's a limit.

(2)  Iranians do not have to answer to a foreign leadership panel of Baha'is - Most Baha'is are not even Iranians nor have ever visited Iran.  

(3) Iran is not the homeland of Bahaism: 'Mirza Nuri' (the guy that changed his name to Bahalluah to hide his past) was summarily kicked out of Iran; and then he was kicked out of Iraq; and then he was kicked out of Ottoman Turkey and then went to Palestine where his family were rewarded for aiding the Colonial-British government, which at that point was causing LITERALLY thousands of massacres against millions of people all over the globe in lands under British-Colonial occupation.  A British KBE at that point in time is akin to getting a 'good leadership' medal from Ghenghis Khan in the eyes of most Iranians. 

(4)  It is NOT an "honor" to get an award from the British Empire which was subjecting India to rape and pillage and caused a famine in Bangladesh that killed millions of people. The Brits and their helpers perpetrated this scheme this all over the world.  Abdul Baha's KBE means something, but nothing good. (KBE, by the way stands for "Knight of the British Empire).    

Bahaullah doesn't command me or Iran to do anything ...

"by Terry McBride on Tue Sep 11, 2012 07:56 AM PDT In spite of the fact that Bahaullah commands us to focus on ...."

I am now reminded why I have been absent from this forum...

In spite of the fact that Bahaullah commands us to focus on the positive nature of some people who will forever remain nameless...

I must sadly continue my absense from this forum because if I continue to read the vacuous prattle from those who refuse to let go of some issues...  I might say something un Bahai like...

have a beautiful life people.. 

I am now reminded why I have been absent from this forum...

In spite of the fact that Bahaullah commands us to focus on the positive nature of some people who will forever remain nameless...

I must sadly continue my absense from this forum because if I continue to read the vacuous prattle from those who refuse to let go of some issues...  I might say something un Bahai like...

have a beautiful life people.. 

Abbas effendi

Frashogar, I heard, he had sexual relationship with his niece and their off spring is the president of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas??

can u shed some light on this, yet another, exhibition of humanity??

I wear an Omega watch

Wahid you have mellowed down :)

In comparsion with your former reincranations your tone is more nuanced and less aggressive.

What has gone wrong old boy? :))

The British Mandate Authority for Palestine

Was a colonial, occupying power. There is also no evidence for the claims Baha'is make regarding Abbas Effendi's knighting when the British government and its mandate authority themselves have explicitly claimed that Abbas Effendi was knighted for "services rendered unto the British government." If Baha'i's provided the actual copy of Abbas Effendi's knighthood certificate - which currently is classified in the British National Archives - this would settle the matter once and for all. Short of this, the knighting of Abbas Effendi is evidence of nothing more than an Imperial, colonial power in the Middle East rewarding one of its most public agents for services rendered unto it.

KBE

ohhhh,  I didnt know that!! 

I just know bahais ,despite their own manifest to refute politics, have not played a positive political role, neither in Pahlavi era nor now!!

I wear an Omega watch

Responding to your personal request - MJ

When you take a break and find time for a more contemplative approach to this subject you can begin by visiting this site.

www.bahai.org.

Again, I am simply responding to your personal request and will refrain from an engagement here.

Alborz

PS - Abdu'l Baha's service to the poor and the deprived and his role in the restoration of the fresh water supply to Akka became known to such extent that the British governor of Palestine asked that he be knighted.  Despite Abdu'l-Baha's discomfort with this recognition, he was knighted. 

Diatribe is a barrier to true understanding.

frazelle09: Iran is not the "homeland" of the Bahai Movement

It's a stretch to call Iran the homeland of the Bahai movement when for 160 years under both secular and religious governments, the Bahai's overt political movement (evidence of which is amply represented on this site) was independently and repeatedly rejected by the majority of Iranian people and governments.

Wasn't 'Mirza Nuri' (the guy that changed his name Bahalluah to hide his past) summarily kicked out of Iran; and then kicked out of Iraq; and then kicked out of Ottoman Turkey and then went to Palestine where his family were rewarded for aiding the Colonial-British government, which at that point was causing LITERALLY thousands of massacres against millions of people all over the globe in lands under British-Colonial occupation?

I think that's what you meant.  And that is consistent with the truth.  What an honor to get an award from the British Empire which was subjecting India to rape and pillage and caused a famine in Bangladesh that killed millions of people. Yes, shine up Abdul Baha's KBE, it will reflect the light of truth!  (KBE, by the way stands for "Knight of the British Empire).    

Number one enemy of Iranians are "stinky Mullahs"

 "There no blaming the 'Mullahs' on this one pal." MaryamJoon

huh ..... I got it.

 My friend,  look for a new job in our new establishment.  Pay is much better. I guarattee it.

The Bahá'í Faith

This is a very interesting site/blog.  i like it because it publishes articles about the Bahá'í Faith and about the plight of the Bahá'ís in Iran.

Iran is the homeland of the Bahá'í Faith and is revered by the Bahá'ís all over the world as the birthplace of the Revelation of Bahá'u'lláh.  i hope to have the priviledge of going there some day and meeting other dear Bahá'ís and their friends.

All of my Iranian Bahá'í friends, both those living in Mexico and the U.S. talk about how beautiful the country is.

Some other links from the internet which might be of interest are:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Fa...

and 

//www.bahai.org/

One of the wonderful things Bahá'u'lláh has taught me is that Muhammad, may His Soul be ever blessed, was one of the Manifestations of God.  i just taught a workshop for a group of Freemasons in which i had the opportunity to speak of the greatness of this Manifestation of God, His spiritual and social teachings, the purity of His life and the far-reaching and innumerable contributions the civilization which was founded by Islam spread throughout the civilized world.  Did you know that little by little historians are beginning to consider that the Renaissance was really initiated by Islam?

Have a wonderful day!  :)

"The earth is one country and mankind its citizens."

Bahá'u'lláh

The video is not about "IRI" spies, it's an interview

And the interview is with a 40 year veteran of the Baha'i faith who, as a former leader with the Baha'i Assembly, reveals practices and behaviors of the group towards Iranians and Iran.  There no blaming the 'Mullahs' on this one pal.

caspiantiger

You are diverging from the narrative. Naughty, naughty! Your handlers in the Lobby will be very cross with you now. MaryamJoon and I are supposed to be the same person. Why are you suggesting we are different people when your handlers have put out the narrative we are the same person and that everyone who disagrees with the Lobby are one and the same?

This website was ruined long ago by the McCarthyist cabal of AIPAC and the American Enterprise Institute dominating it who have run virtually everyone out of it other than a bunch of close knitted pip squeek losers who honestly don't have anywhere else to go online.

Congratulations to IRI spies, Maryam and Frashogar!!

Nicely done! Once more, you have infiltrated another online community posing as an ordinary Iranians to spread your venom! I would suggest that the two of you move to the West Bank to see if the Palestinians give a crap about either one of you!

No

it is him

I wear an Omega watch

Mamoor, Is that Amir Kabir?

In your picture?  

Shirzadegan, it's not about the Jews in Iran or your highschool.

"What is this garbage propagandas? In my whole life, I only saw 1 Bahaii in my high school time and I never met any Jew." - Shirzadegan

Do you think Ken Timmerman is an Iranian-Jew?  Is Netanyahu an Iranian Jew?

Do you think that every Bahai is Iranian?  

It has nothing to do with you saw in "high school"?