Musings of a former chicken

Fred says, "selective historical memory"

Aghaye Fred, have you noticed how zionists are selective about THEIR historical memory in a funny way? Here:

--They tell you that Jews are ENTITLED to the land of Palestine because some 2000+years ago some jews used to live there, most famous among them, King David. They want everyone to forget every other group of people who lived in Palestine way before Jews and way after Jews in the ancient times!

--They consider many centuries that Arabs had a continuous majority presence in Palestine as old history. They want everyone to remember 1948 when Palestinians were kicked out of their land and Israel created an artificial Jewsih majority in parts of Palestine as the REAL history.

--So, one should selectively consider 1948 when Israel has been created out of stolen land a well established HISTORY, the tens of centuries before that is too ancient a history and must be forgetten, but King David of few thousand years ago is fresh history to remember ;-)

--Then the Zionist tells you that the since Israel is created by the UN, everyone must accept its legitimacy, but when UN says that the land that Israelis stole in 1967 is illegitimate... then the zionist tells you that UN has no legitimacy there, besides....1967 is too far ago of a history for anyone to remember...just forget about it!!

--So now, one should accept 1967 as too far ago of a history that people should forget about, but never forget the 1940s and HITLER because 6 million Jews got killed that no one should ever forget about...of course everyone is encouraged to forget the other 62 million that got killed in the second WW......

Talk about selective historical memory aghayeh Fred!!

keep wondering Craig!

Keep wondering prozactively!

kharmagas

Even among extremist Zionists, I have found people that I respect, although I don't agree with. A good example of it was Zion who used to post here and unfortunately does not anymore.

I wonder why? :o

Maybe it was all the alleged "respect" ...

so what Craig?

I called you a warmonger, that I remember, ......, so what if I called you a Zionist? I don't consider Zionism or Zionist dirty words. I consider extremist Zionists (specially supporters of AIPAC) dangerous people, but not all the Zionists support AIPAC.....

Even among extremist Zionists, I have found people that I respect, although I don't agree with. A good example of it was Zion who used to post here and unfortunately does not anymore.

kharmagas

You are anonym7? lol.

I wouldn't call what you do "debate"! I remember you from a couple years ago... you called me a bunch of names. Including "zionist". That's all I can recall. I must have missed all the constructive parts of your comments!Though I have to admit I was surprised when you said a week or so back that you opposed IRI interference in Isreal, Lebanon, etc. I'd be more surprised if you actually backed that up by criticizing IRI for that behavior, though. 

Kharmagas: What would like

Kharmagas: What would like to happen to the Jews in Israel??

vildemose, going wild?

You don't have any reason whatsoever to say I hate Jews or even Israel. BRING ME A SENTENCE I HAVE WRITTEN, THAT INDICATES THAT. In fact I have posted many pro Jewish comments .... to the extent that Bijan once said I must be Jew! Additionally I have been debating with many Jewish and Zionists who have posted in this site (Zion, Bijan, Artificial Intelligence, Mehdi Mazloom,...) as anonym7, and kharmagas, and I have had strong disagreements with them but none of them has claimed I hate Jews or Israel. No you ..... yourself and your questions!

Fred,

My anti anti-zionist friend, I would like to share the following extract from the film Marmoolak with you, hope you'll like it.


Hajmin, your atheistic Islamist friend.

This is a comment by "NO

This is a comment by "NO FEAR" who claims he is Mazhabi-Melli (religious-nationalist). I think he is none other than my beloved Xerexes aka Darius:

Iran REALLY doesn't need the bomb since it has said many times before ,if attacked by one, their response would be just as hard. A chemical attack over israel's largest cities can wipeout half of the jewish populations worldwide , and it will keep the infrastructures intact for the palestinians. Hezbollah can fire it on our behalf if needed. Israel knows this very well and can't afford to play with the Lion's tail.  by No Fear on Mon Nov 16, 2009 04:50 AM PST

This gives you an insight into a mind of a religious
zealot, typical Islamist ruling leadership of Iran. How should an Israeli/jewish/zionist feel upon reading comments like this?? Should they just laught it off, take it as a joke, don't pay any attention to it or what are they expected to do???

What if an Isareli/Jewish/zionist had written a comment like that about Iran??

Kharmagas: Whether you're

Kharmagas: Whether you're muslim or not is irrelevant. I have a question for you, do you think your hatred and animosity towards the state of Israel or the jews are conducive to peace???

Do you realize the Isareali/zionist/jews view/perceive the IRI as an existential threat and have the same hatred and hostilities toward Iranians ? Do you realize what a lethal combination this kind of hatred is and could lead to a devestating war??

Hazrate Fred

Hazrate Fred, can you share your views on this with us? More specifically do you consider yourself a Jew, a Zionist ... something in between?

BTW, I know in all likelihood you are not going to respond to me (as I have been in your un-deletable $hit list for a long time). However, if you decide to respond, remember that I am not an "Islamist" (I am not a Muslim), .., additionally I believe reactionary Muslims are worse than reactionary Jews and progressive Jews are generally better than progressive Muslims with the exception of Dr. Sahimi. I believe Dr. Sahimi is as progressive as the most progressive Jews.

Fred: Why do you think

Fred: Why do you think Islamists don't want Iranians and Jews to have a noraml relationship? Why do you think they care about the fate of Palestinians more than the Iranians? Why do they conflate the Israeli-Palestinian issue with Iran's national interest?

This animosity and hostility will eventually lead to war between the two countries. Why can't they see that if they were truly interested in peace??

Why is it in Iran's interest (NOT THE IRI) to continue its animosity and hostility toward Israel??

And please share with us

And please share with us what do call those Israelis that want to bomb Iran? what would you call those Israelis who are already armed with Nukes?

Mehrdad