Please watch this clip
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HATEIRI 18-Jun-2009
GO Please watch this clip:
//www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-273363
After watching this clip it made me claerly realize what f***k up you guys are.
You people in CA realy please don't ever come home and stop calling yourslefes Iranian
You are nothing like the people and the protesters in Iran you are a wannabe.
Let me tell to those Shahi supporters one thing is clear thast Reza Pahlavi the one who is living on the money stolen from the Iranian people in LA is coward and like his father who sold the soul of the country and brought the country to what it is today. To the so called Mujahedin your leader is 10 times worst than the Mullahs regime and to the IRI supporter GO TO HELL.
The students in Iran and the Iranian people don't want your support and solidarity stay home, go to your discos and concerts and watch your garbage. The one old man holding the flag of Shanshai is calling others to find that girl who touched the flag so he could beat her up the same way he did to his wife.
Just drive your BMWs, or mercedec, get a nose job or a blow job and worry about the hairs on your face or wherever it is growing on your ugly souls.
That is one of the main reason I never want to come to CA because I realy don't want to associate muyself, the Iranian heritage an culture with a bunch like you.
You are a disgrace and a dissapointment to Iran and Iranians all over.
I think your actions in that clip and whoever was involved that day has jeopardized and undermined the whoile movement.
Go to Hell all of you, the following group and people should go to HELL:
IRI supporters
Basijis
Iranians living in CA
Mujahedin Supporters
Shahanshahi supporters
Tudehi Supporters
Wh goes to paradise:
Iranian People
The Protesters
Those who were Murdered during the recent demosntration by IRI and Basijis
Iranian soldiers died during Iran-Iraq war 1980-1988 and the war on drugs
Iranian intellectuals who are fighting for freedom
and of course my family since we don't live in CA
hamsadeh ghadimi is not Iranian and the image is of LEBANON!!!!
by MEHRNAZ SHAHABI on Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:29 PM PDTNothing wrong with being non-Iranian! But everything wrong with it when a non-Iranian, sneaks into an Iranian site, with an Iranian name, pretends to be an Iranian and pushes the agenda of another state, ie, Israel, under that mask, and slanders true patriots of that site with lying allegations whilst shedding crocodile tears for the people of Iran.
You say ignore slanderers! Absolutely! However, when I ws slandered, I was not even on this thread!! Also, sometimes it is important to expose some treacherous links when an agenda is being pursued.
As for slanderers, you reminded me of informing you (and please blog as hell and let coworkers know please) that the image currently on the net of the pregnant woman whose baby was shot inside her stomach, allegedly in Tehran, is from ISRAELI MASSACRE IN BEIRUT IN 2006! The slanderers from the site AARIABOOM say that the woman was taken to Rasool Akram Hospital in Tehran and Khamenei ordered a blanket silence on disseminating the news of that tragic event. It then urges everyone to disseminate the news as widely as they can!! Perhaps in your respect for truth and love for humanity, you can spread the news of this profitable captalising on Israel's own atrocities and its agenda in Iran in pushing for violence.
Anyway, nice meeting you, b!! Everyone has now seen this item which has been displayed for a few days in the most discussed, and my purpose of communicating with the honourable majority of this site about these masquerading served.
Peace and Love;)
Sir I apologize
by b. (not verified) on Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:37 AM PDTSir I apologize. Does one have to have a full-blooded Iranian pedigree to care about Iran?
Why is our capacity to divide so confoundedly infinite? Let's ignore the slanderers and do everything we are able to do with the goal of to bringing the world's attention to the crimes taking place in Iran.
Blog like hell, talk to co-workers (especially non-Iranians, don't you think?) and cry out! Sign the petitons, go to a rally, but let's not start the internal blame game.
Ultimately, slanderers produce the opposite effect they hope to impose. They call attention to the injustice of their own deeds.
Dear b - Hamsadeh ghadimi is not Iranian!!!
by MEHRNAZ SHAHABI on Thu Jun 25, 2009 08:38 AM PDTYou have made wild assumptions purely based on prejudice.
My comment was in response to Hamsadeh ghadimi's slanderous hateful remarks, whilst masquerading as an Iranian. You are not Iranian yourself, so I believe you did not understood the nuances in my comment.
May I thank you for wishing to share the agony of the Iranian people. Unfortunately, I detect a great deal of projected hate and prejudice on your part.
The upshot of my comment was that Hamsadeh ghadimi is pretending to be an Iranian and is slandering people like myself on this website purely out of malice and with lying accusations. He - and a tiny number of others, such an Bigan AM, signing anonymously - often pretending to be Iranian, are trying to jump on the bandwagon of the democratic movement in Iran by slandering people like myself who are supportive of the movement, so that they can create divisions and mistrust. Divide and rule is an old trick, we Iranians are bitterly familiar with.
We univerally share your agony, but not your hatred
by b. (not verified) on Thu Jun 25, 2009 06:37 AM PDTDear Mr. Mehrnaz Shahabi:
Your message is full of an old, familiar attitude; Your attitude requires someone to hate and blame for the disaster that has overcome Iran. Sir, hate will not bring people together. Solidarity is surely what needed right now, not hate.
You may not like LA's "disco-dancers" or people with nose jobs or whatever, but it take all kinds of people to make a free society.
A society dominated by ideologues is what has brought Iran to it knees. The best societies are inclusive ones, pluralistic societies bring together the good, the bad and the ugly plus the frivolous, the shallow and the intellectually-challenged. It also includes haters like you Mr. Shahabi, because hate easily tranforms into love once the fundamentals of a society are sound. Shouldn't we be appealing for justice in the name of all those who need help the most?
By the way, maybe if a significant number of Iranians had not had to flee their country in order to stay alive (remember the 80's?) they would not have the problems that you mention. A nose-jobbing LA-hi is still an Iranian who loves his or her country. Love is a good thing and has not solved the problems of the people of Iran. Good luck to you sir. We univerally share your agony, but not your hatred.
hamsadeh ghadimi - your tail is trapped in the door!!!!!
by MEHRNAZ SHAHABI on Wed Jun 24, 2009 03:10 AM PDTWhy don't you come out and commentate under your real name, you great hero of 'Iran'?!!!!! Let's see your tears! You say to Mineum71:
"i see your buddy jaleho, and irandokht still post on the victory of iranian people. and together with mehrnaz like to giggle and participate in some grotesque lovefest when complimenting on each others' comments. i've never seen grown men stoop that low".
Where did I congratulate anyone on the "victory of the Iranian people"? and "giggled" and "participated in grotesque lovefest" complimenting on comments made about victory? You are another lying rat on this site.
You say you have not seen "grown men stoop so low" (Mehrnaz, Irandokht & Jaleh!)?!!! Oh well well well ...
At least we have BALLS ;)
Please let us organize
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 08:43 PM PDTLet us organize so we can provide logistic and mral support to the movement
get in group and have a plan and try to organize
(on LA streets) fighting on a 'free iran protest' about flags!!!
by tony cream on Fri Jun 19, 2009 07:01 PM PDT"Mercedec?the type of house? disco? concert? clth? don't you think that is the top priority of Iranian in CA."
isn't this what they want in iran? figurly speaking of course. what means just do what u want, to be free, these things you say about them in cali, isn't that what they are fighting for in iran now?? to be free?
i saw the video and it's indeed stupid!!! but there is no such thing as a 'wannebe iranian' when you are a iranian ...
it's just not the time to get more divided, we have to unite as one against the enemy. we all want the same anyway.....
;)
Captain
by Kaveh Nouraee on Fri Jun 19, 2009 02:20 PM PDTNo worries. I don't take it as an attempt at meddling at all. That thought never crossed my mind. Even if we're on opposite ends of a topic, I know you're sincere.
The respect is mutual.
Kaveh
by capt_ayhab on Fri Jun 19, 2009 02:07 PM PDTI sincerely appreciate your acknowledgment of my comment and I do hope that you do not look at it as me trying to meddle in your business.
Respectfully
-YT
MiNeum
by Kaveh Nouraee on Fri Jun 19, 2009 01:47 PM PDTWhy are you cutting and pasting the same post in different threads? This is the exact same thing you sent to me.
"hamsade ghadimi"
by MiNeum71 on Fri Jun 19, 2009 01:16 PM PDTDo you remember what I've written often an often? That voting would bring the masses together? That this is system is not as strong as they want us to believe it would be? That - as in China 1989 - different forces are fighting against each other, and that voting the most liberal force can damage this construction?
No, nobody said, this elections were free ones. And yes, everybody said voting pre-selected candidates is just a joke. But that was never the point. The point was being and acting together as a large number of opposition.
We, we must go on. We must go for the change. But it wa simportant to find an engine. Therefore it was important to choose a candidate and all vote for him. Nobody knows, if we will see better times, But without voting we wouldn't even had the chance to go for the better times. You never understood, that these elections could be an outlet for a libaral movement.
By the way, my buddies? dariush, q, the anonymous jahels, mehrnaz, my buddy jaleho? You call me an IRI-supporter? This is your best contribution? it's annoying reading your really half-witted comments. You only criticised these elections without showing an alternative. Now we have this movement without you and yours. And this is great. We don't need you among us.
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Dear "Kaveh Nouraee", Dear "HATIERI", Dear "Darius",
by MiNeum71 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 07:59 AM PDT
Imagine, Mousavi turns out to be a great liberal president, a brave man with strong resilience, the engine for transformation to a secular society: What would you say then?
Man enough to admit being wrong and cross the divide?
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Sugar-coating ... lol
by Souri on Fri Jun 19, 2009 01:06 PM PDTI dont' believe in it either !! That's why I have a few enemies here. Thankfully they are very fewer than the number of friends I have here. But still,some people don't like me because they find me too "blunt".
I don't ask you to change your opinion about the people if you are not willing to (although I was hoping that) but i am just saying that expressing your opinion this way, will leave a bad climate in the site, which is already very bad. Actually I was thinking of posting a blog with the title "Iranian fohsh khaneh dot com".........
Hope you see what I was planing to write there! Anyway, Kaveh jan, I understand where you come from. But again, some of the members are so much respected here, that we don't want to see them acting differently. You are one of them !!
Please rest assured of my utmost respect for yourself,
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/iran_vote_truth/
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:56 PM PDThttps://secure.avaaz.org/en/iran_vote_truth/
Souri khanoum
by Kaveh Nouraee on Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM PDTAbsolutely, we're here to state our opinion. And of course opinions can change from time to time.
Nothing is wrong with that, and that is how we, as people, evolve.
As to my statement that she takes us for idiots, I have seen several examples of this over the past several months. Her idea that the video was "edited" was just the latest.
There have also been cases where we have shared the same views, although it has been a while since such a blog appeared. There have been been some blogs where Niloufar Parsi has expressed opinions that are agreeable, and I think it is no secret that there is no love lost between us.
I'm sorry Souri khanoum, I just don't believe in sugar-coating anything anymore. Life is too short.
I hope you have a great weekend also.
Captain
by Kaveh Nouraee on Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:22 PM PDTYou and Marge are entitled to your points of view. And, more often than not, yours and mine are not the same. I'm actually grateful for that, because that is indeed how we learn from each other.
However, when you and I disagree, you don't attack character, you don't attempt to belittle, and you are consistent.
And even when Marge disagrees and "scolds" me, she's as you are.
The same can't be said for IRANdokht. Something in her changed from when she first was on the site. She went from being a friendly and pleasant person to being vindictive and vicious to those with whom she disagrees. Now I am only speaking for myself here, but I know that I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Yes, we're indeed all at the mercy of the errors we commit from time to time. And I can say that in my own case, I have committed many. But I will not run away from them, I will not deny responsibility for them and I will always be accountable to them. And at the age of 42, I am not going to use childish excuses.
I'm sorry, I won't kiss and make up to someone who looks down on other people the way she does and for the reasons she does.
hateiri, mineum
by hamsade ghadimi on Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:01 PM PDThateiri,
i saw the video to the end. i've been to the dc demonstration as well and saw a mini-vesion of what happened. first, you stereotyped all californians, and now you're stereotyping all iranians. you must be loner yourself to label all iranians as such so that you feel better about yourself. as i told you before, with all this hate talk you won't be able to convince anybody, you might be only appealing to your own base, the haters; and then again, maybe they'll try to distance themselves from you. good luck.
Mineum,
i'm here and everywhere, you can see my posts on this blog as well as other blogs. you probably don't read anything, just spew your rant. for your information, i never urged anyone to vote or not to vote unlike many people in this site. i just stated that, why as an expatriate, i will not vote. you can refer back to my writings and read it for the first time. as a rule, i don't like to perscribe to others what to do; although, i have been in heated arguments with some. i make my case to convince others on my logical arguments and let the chips fall where they may. i also listen to people's arguments and if i find them more convincing than mine, i change my mind. fyi, you're not one of those people.
and i'm probably the only one that predicted that ahmadinejad will win by a landslide (my prediction was 67%). and that's not because more people voted for ahmadinejad; it was pre-destined. you can refer to my first blog and read that for the first time as well. therefore, as you can see many people's prophecies have come true even if they have opposing views. imagine that. you might learn a thing or two if you read half as much as you write. ;)
by the way, where are your buddies: dariush, q, abarmard, and the anonymous jahels. i see your buddy jaleho, and irandokht still post on the victory of iranian people. and together with mehrnaz like to giggle and participate in some grotesque lovefest when complimenting on each others' comments. i've never seen grown men stoop that low.
for both of you:
you can spend all you energy hating people, calling them names and pointing fingers, or focus your energy on your common enemy who is the root problem of all this mess. over and out.
Great web sites to follow Iran
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:32 AM PDTIranerinnen im Internet
www.change4equality.org
www.feministschool.com
www.meydaan.com
Parvin Ardalans Rede bei YouTube
Iranerinnen in Deutschland
www.shabakeh.de
latest from IRan
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:26 AM PDT//www.emma.de/cry_for_help_from_iran_2009_18_06.html
No My Dear
by MiNeum71 on Fri Jun 19, 2009 09:48 AM PDTAt first you called me IRI supporter, now you're coming with Cult of IRI gang and their leader: What the hell is the matter with you? This is a typically Ahmadinejad behaviour, accusing of the own actings.
No, it's not your camp, your camp are the ones sitting at home and not taking part at this campaign.
Let me stress something, I'm very sorry for you and yours, being old frustrated disillusional Iranians acting typically Iranian Laj-bazee. I know this is not your fault, the circumstances and these IRI scumbags destroyed many lives and hopes. But now you can decide. Choose green and cross the divide, or give up.
MiNeum71 you and your Cult of IRI gang and their leader
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 09:07 AM PDTYou couldn't find anything about me now you are trying to call names. So where is the proof that I ever said no one should vote.
Now since you couldn't find the proof you resort to name calling like typical IRI supporter. "Bisavad" I agree with you I am Bisavad. At one point you even referred to me as a traitor. hmmmm and I did agree with you there too.
Now what else. See this is exactly the name calling that IRI supporters are carrying out. Good for you
Please Continue
We the people of Iran will fight. I'll do whatever I can on my end by rpoviding any moral or logistical support. You can join our camp too. It is still not to late I will still love you since you are Iranian.
FREE IRAN
CHEERS
HATEIRI
by MiNeum71 on Fri Jun 19, 2009 08:51 AM PDT-----
Dear "Kaveh Nouraee", Dear "HATIERI", Dear "Darius",
by MiNeum71 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 07:59 AM PDT
Imagine, Mousavi turns out to be a great liberal president, a brave man with strong resilience, the engine for transformation to a secular society: What would you say then?
Man enough to admit being wrong and cross the divide?
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This has been my argument since March, voting brings the masses together, and this can the beginning of a new movement.
I am an IRI-supporter? Which part of Civil disobedience or We need a change or Supporting the young and brave Iranians fighting didn't you understand, Mr. Bee Savad?
Stay where you are, Iran belongs to the people who are fighting for her freedom, with fist or ith wisdom.
Yes dear Kaveh
by Souri on Fri Jun 19, 2009 08:08 AM PDTWe are not the political analyst here. We just come here to talk and state our opinion which are free and could be changed either by the interaction with others or from some external event/influences.
Remember "Setareh Sabeti"'s article about changing her decision? That is a proof of courage and intelligance of a woman.
Now, some of us, express our opinion too fast, and some others wait a bit to digest. What is wrong with this, Kaveh jan?
You said: She takes us for the idiot!! Why you think so?
Is she passing an exam with us? Or do you depend to her for making your mind? Are you always waiting to see what ID thinks about a subject to then decide what is your own opinion on ?
There's nothing vicious in what ID is doing here. She is just expressing her opinion which changes faster than some other people, and this is even better than some of those stubborn people here who doesn't want to see any other picture (and rest assured I'm not talking about you at all)
I believe all those recent events (plus your personal difficulties) may have left you too sensitive and nervous. I'm sure after taking a rest and having a wise & detached reflection, you will be back to your usual good reasoning and change your mind about this.
Have a great Week end
MiNeum71 -- IRI style condemnation without facts
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 08:01 AM PDTShow one fact that I have said not ever vote or don't vote.
I have always said and will stick by it that Mousavi is the same shit coming out of Khamanei's ass as is Antarinejad but diff. smell.
But this movement is not about any of these shit heads it is about the system.
It is about the corrupt, and mismanged system that has been feeding the people for 30 years.
It is run pedophilers, child moletsers. rapist and murederers.
So stop been an IRI supporter since your days are over.
PROVIDE MORAL AND LOGISTIC SUPPORT TO PEOPLE OF IRAN
FREE IRAN
CHEERS
Kaveh, Marge , IRANdokht
by capt_ayhab on Fri Jun 19, 2009 07:41 AM PDTKaveh
I do recall that you and I have had some heart to heart talk regarding what Marge says.
I am in 100% agreement with Marge. You are being cruel and that is not kind. When you propagate unity, show it man. You always say freedom of speech, well, is this what you mean? Remember please, none of us are political analyst[at least I am not] nor are we fortune tellers. Having said that, we ALL, at times are at the mercy of our errors that we commit.
None of us are perfect, at least I know I am not. Both you and IRANdokh are couple of the old timers here who have contributed great deal to this site. I always love reading comments form both of you and have learned many things. But lately Kaveh Jan, you are taking it way too far, and it ain't fair dude! Just kiss and make up.
Love you all, Love Iran More
-YT
Missing Person Report
by MiNeum71 on Fri Jun 19, 2009 07:07 AM PDTI wonder where those iranan.com craps are hiding, the Parhams, hamsade ghadimis, Kaveh Nouraees, ramintorks, HATEIRIs, Yanas, LalehGillanis, eroonmans, Farah Rustas, Masoud Kazemzadehs ... who always claimed: Don't vote, only silly people and IRI-apologists vote, nothing will change, this only helps legitimating the IRI ...
I wrote very often: Civil disobedience is an active action, actually a subtle offence, with which you want to demontrate displeasure, for example when you go on strike. But sitting at home demonstrates only personified laziness and cowardice.
Where are you? You thinks you can work against the people whilst people are dying, and then you come and pick up free gift, you lazy gals and guys? You don't deserve Iran.
There are only two things I expect you to you:
1) Supporting the young and brave Iranians fighting in Tehran, Shiraz, Isfahan, Mashad, Ahvaz, Tabriz ...
2) Apologising for insulting the intelligence of the voters.
You lost this battle of wit.
please don't be surprised by Hitler's speech
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 06:34 AM PDTFrom the beginning he had shown that he would support antatrinejad. Even before the election he had shown that he will cast the vote for him and predicted that he will be the winner.
The movement will not end in few days but must go on.
hamsade ghadimi
by HATEIRI on Fri Jun 19, 2009 05:19 AM PDTYou are naive an gallible
Did you watch the clip to the end?
This was just an evidence of how these people act and react and how when you put them together they can' contain themselves.
I have been in many political gathering and there has been not once that any of thos events ended peacfully.
Even when Iranian play soccer in a team they tend to fight amongts themselves (teammates and coach).
It lack leadership, discipline and repect for each other. We are loners not team players and thios mostly for IRanian outside the country.
Do an experiment put five of your firnds together and stary talking about politics see what happens I be t you at the end of the next 2 hours you all hate each other.
follow twitters and LinkedIn and face book
Thank you Assal!
by Azarin Sadegh on Fri Jun 19, 2009 02:24 AM PDTBrava Assal! I watched the video and read your comment and couldn't agree more with you on the subject!
I had attended one of these gathering last weekend, and unfortunately I witnessed a similar scene...and I felt so helpless, because it was obvious that the young and passionate protesters hadn't read Voltaire! If in power, they were not going to "defend to the death the rights" of anyone who disagreed with them...and for me, this was/is the real tragedy.
Thank you! Azarin
Qurbanat Hamsade & Arash
by Ahmed from Bahrain on Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:57 PM PDTWhen I look at what is coming I do not look into a speck of time. Iran's history is thousands of years of culture and humanity. It might have been sleep for the last thirty years. Let us take heart; the future is very bright and this culture will prevail.
All I have to do is read some of Sa'adi. Hafiz, Rumi, Ferdousi, Baba Tahir. Man, any man in the street can recite a bunch of these poets. I have lived many years in Western world and I have not seen one ordinary person recite Shakespeare or Burns or any of their local poets.
This culture will prevail, may be not in my time (am sixty) but it won't be longer. You had better believe that, then you will make it sooner!
The Genie is out of the bottle. No one can put it back. All I would love to see for now is a united people who believe in their own destiny as Persians. Its not about being proud but about seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
Thirty years is enough. It has not worked, so the birth pain may be a little too much at the moment but the new child is coming and you had better look after it and nurture it to gorw up healthy and strong.
How long one can wear black? The nature provides other colours;lets wear some of that. OK to begin with green is just fine but we will move on.
Pleeeze; spare me the pink! Salamati - have a drink to that. Nooshe' janat.
Ahmed from Bahrain
To Ahmed from Bahrain
by Arash_1970 on Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:34 PM PDTHow refreshing ! Thank you for your words of wisdom.Also thank you to all those who have promoted understanding and collaboration instead of hatred.