"Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth"

There has definitly been an influx of pro Israel ad

"google" or not. It is coinciding with the AIPAC/israeli/Conservative Hawk PR offensive against Iran. It's umistakable how it has changed in the past 30 days alone.

both in paid ads, and paid bloggers.

Thanks for posting this Holly.

The reason I posted this blog...

Sorry I posted and then neglected this blog but I see I'm not needed anyway :P

The reason I posted it was because Palin has clearly and repeatedly displayed ignorance of and malice toward IRAN (at least in my eyes). So I ask myself, should IRANIAN.com provide an opportunity for her to make more money? (keep in mind, to the best of my knowledge you can set up filters so that certain ads don't show on your site). 

My own feeling would be that if it was MY site, I'd definitely set up filters to keep out certain ads and this would be one of them. But I also like the idea of taking the money and giving it to groups active against her and what she stands for. But it isn't MY site!

BTW, does anyone know the ins and outs of how this ad thing works? Does every click cost the advertiser or do they have to be 'qualified' clicks?  I can't seem to find the web page that had it laid out.

Marge

Thanks for the tip missy. Sorta do already ;) And I LOVE your avatar.  I think it is the bestest on i.com. Looked up your profile and your last blog was in June. Why O why? I've read some of your other comments on blogs and like your humor. Please blog a blog for me?

To answer the question...

Anonymous jaan:

What is your question? If I was JJ, owner of this site, AND, FBI offered me $5000 to run an ad for the buro?

I can't imagine why FBI would offer me $5000, but yeah, I guess I'd take the money, throw them a spot, and give the $5000,...well  $4000 of it,...no, wait, $2000,...OK, definately at least  $500 of it to a good cause. Would that make me a traitor, promoting FBI's agenda? I don't believe so.

Bavafa is asking me: "How would most people feel if some one decide to run an ad for Mahmoud
Ahmadinegad on this web site, specially after the recent uprising and
the mass abuse/crimed that took place on the streets of Tehran.
Wouldn't you be offended?"

Most people? Maybe.

Me personally? No.

We already have at least one contributor here, who is a big Ahmadinejad supporter. We don't- at least I don't- want her banned or removed.

I cherish the platform JJ has provided us all to exchange ideas. Am I "offended" by contributors who support the IRI? Am I "offending" some by critisizing IRI?

Probably so- to both questions- but so what?

If everyone is so easily "offended", to the point where you ask for the eviction of the dissent, this would become a very dull and lonely place.

I think it is healthy to be exposed to all ideas. I would not want to be in a forum, where everyone agrees with me.

If I ever own a bookstore, all books would be welcome. Ali P.'s bookstore will sell all books, especially the ones he despises.

That is only my opinion. I sure understand others disagreeing with me on this.

Yours,

Ali P.

Anonymouse

I remember the Centcom thing, but I don't think they wanted to advertise like the Palin one here but wanted to publish their articles and recruitment pieces. I might be wrong but a few days later one of the well known members of the site actually had sent JJ an article that was published on the front page which sounded very much like a CIA propaganda anyway... so I guess they got in free after all. 

IRANdokht

My question to Ali and JJ is:

How would most people feel if some one decide to run an ad for Mahmoud Ahmadinegad on this web site, specially after the recent uprising and the mass abuse/crimed that took place on the streets of Tehran. Wouldn't you be offended?

I actually asked that question from JJ when I protested seeing ads from Israel, a regime that is constantly is threatening to bomb my parents home. The response I got was that "those are Google generated ads" as if he has no control over his site

Mehrdad

Ali jaan don't Dodge (Chevy) the question! 1 or 2, FBI or CIA or

Ali jaan don't Dodge (Chevy) the question! 1 or 2, FBI or CIA or Mosad, what does it matter?

I brought it up because you said what's the big deal with Palin.  Okay forget Palin, the point is JJ has refused to let Govt agencies pay him for advertisement.  He has blogged about it and I don't feel like searching for them, but they are here somewhere.

Even here, he said the ad is generated by Google.  FBI or CIA has some money leftover from Iran democracy fund or whatever, what do you care?!  They want to pay $5K for their ad.  So pick one, 1 or 2?

If it was me, I'd let them pay me and then let people break their heads over it about whether or not it is right or wrong.

Everything is sacred.

Anonymous jaan

I don't know what prompted you to pose these questions to me. I fail to see a connection, between my comment, and your questions, but I suspect you do.

First of all, FBI is a seperate entity from the other organizations you listed. Their focus is usually federal crimes (counterfeit bills, bank robberies, kidnappings, illegal financial schemes, big time bribery cases,..etc), and their jurisdication is- usually- limited to US borders.

Why would FBI want to pay JJ, $5000? For an ad? An ad for what? Hiring?

Granted, most of us who frequent this site, could use a cushy federal job (beats being unemployed!), but I assure you, there is no shortage of qualified applicants for the FBI. In fact, getting into the FBI is more difficult that getting into Harvard (One out of 600 who apply for Harvard get in; one out of 800 with the FBI)

The advertising market has a going rate. JJ wouldn't sell ad spots for much less than the market price, and no one would pay much more, and the rate, currently, is not anywhere close to $5000, even  for the year.

Yours,

Ali P.

Ali don't you see the point here? I'll give you 2 choices pick 1

Here are your 2 choices if you were owner of i.com, for one day anyway:

1. FBI offers to pay you $5,000 to run an ad in i.com

2. Google pays you $0.50 for every click FBI gets from i.com using "google generated ads" on i.com

Which would you choose?  JJ is picking the 2nd choice.  Mind you if FBI pays him $5K he can still get paid by "google generated ads"! 

Now is that a big deal or not?  Probably not, but please pick one of the two choices above. 

Everything is sacred.

What is the big deal?

I don't understand.

No matter how you feel about Sarah Palin, many Americans who vote and make decisions about our lives, subscribe to her ideas. So maybe you'd want to get to know her and her ideas better, just like you may want to find out more about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (something we all failed to do with Rouhollah Khomeini). 

Besides, most of us live in democratic countries. We are exposed to all kinds of right, wrong, wise or moronic or evil ideas and speeches, every day.

(Hell we get exposed to all that on this website!)

Some you read eagerly, and to which you may reply positively and show your support, others may make you angry, and some you just ignore.

Why can't we approach the ads the same way? If no one is interested in her book, the book  eventually stops being advertised here, and moves to websites, where people click on the ad.

Also, remember, every time you click on the ad, the company promoting the book, gets charged. So you could actually do something to help, or hurt, her pocketbook.

Click on the ad, and if interested, buy the book or, click on the ad, and then don't buy the book: Either way you are at least helping Iranian.com

one other tip HOLLY - who to give $$ to?

if you want to see sarah gone, you should support liberal activist groups. Sarah and her book are being promoted by a lot of sites and groups. They are well funded thanks to the obama hate wave. You should support liberal groups to see their ads up on google instead. 

Money is a strange thing

JJ doesn't seem Palin minded at all. But when you are running a web site full time, the users, HOLLY included, must realize that you have to compromise to earn income. Welcome to the Internet 2009! I wish he could do the liberal ads too, to balance it out. I'm also sick of the AIPAC and UANI. All these Jews and Israelis who know nothing about Iran are discussing its politics. It wold make sense if their own system were in check, or say if they had a damn constitution! Israel is barely even a nation. Sheesh. What a world. And Palin? She didn't even have it in her to say which newspapers she reads and she is popular in America, and yet she is fine with her face plastered on eye-ranian and arab sites discussing politics and mahmoud ahmadinejad! Money money money. must be funny =)

Irandokht aziz

Ebi aka Haaji

Holly

I hear you!  I feel the same way about her. 

Souri khanoum look at the picture on top of this page, now compare the size of her face to the avatars. That'll show you how big the picture is and for people who are sick of the stupid right wing agenda and have heard her talk and wink too many time, it becomes "sohaneh rooh"  ;-)

IRANdokht

Souri

Khastegare layegh na vali I will keep an eye open for you ;)

HollyUSA jan

Khejalatemoun dadi ke!

hala begoo bebinam ba inhame ossaf khoub, hich khaastegaar soraagh nadari vaseh ma? 

lol, Thanks a lot for your nice words.

Souri jan

Ekhtiyar dari azizam. I have read many of your posts and know that you are not only enlightened by knowledge, but also by what comes across as 'roohe paak' and 'dele saaf'. And I mean that sincerely.

That having been said, I think if I were a webmaster, I would allow ads that had a more universal appeal to my specific audience because more people would click on them and I'd make more money! Win win ;)

Good question!

HollyUSA, I heard you. This is a point which need a good reflection and discussion. Not easy to have a clearcut decision, when you are in JJ's position. Of course, things are rather easier for us, the readers. As a journalist and a website master, JJ must have other opinion. But I understand you very well dear.

And thanks for enlightening me.

Souri

She's is an idiot, no doubt about it. BUT she's not a harmless idiot. She's venomous and not only toward Iran. So it can be argued that by making available the means for her to sell her book which would likely poison more idiotic minds AND afford her the $$ to spread her venoum further, any site that supports her advertising is infact promoting her.

Is she on her own a real threat? Perhaps not. Does that mean we should aid the likes of her? Naaah. I'd rather not. But hey, that's just my opinion :)

This woman is an idiot

Agreed. But still I don't believe that having an advertisement of her book here, means really that the IC is promoting her venomous statement on Iran.

Again, I might be wrong. Honesty, I am not so much concerned about it. Maybe that's why I can't have an objective idea.  Just, maybe ;)

Souri jan

Personally, I think these are a couple of good examples (amongst MANY) as reasons:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHr20tRdV50

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9LofMCa8A

We don't have it here in Canada

We don't get same ads here in Canada. So I have never seen that ad. But I don't understand what's the fuss about it?

We have many people and among them many of Iranian.comers who vote Republican and support Palin. How about them?

Why we should only have the ads we do agree with personally?

I understand about the Israeli ads, which may present a bad international image for the site, as an Iranian site. But why Palin's book?

What's wrong with it? 

Irandokht

Hate is a very strong word and I try to refrain from using it but her mug just rubs me the wrong way in all sorts of ways.

WRONG Anonymouse

Google Ads too, can be filtered.

Sorry JJ. And please correct me if I'm wrong.

THANK YOU HollyUSA

I think seeing her face on these pages is even worse than having to read the venomous comments! I had already complained about it too but I am glad you posted it! Good job!

IRANdokht

So anyone can advertise on i.com and JJ gets paid for it. They

So anyone can advertise on i.com and JJ gets paid for it.  They just have to do it though google.  A while ago JJ had some blogs that said FBI or Military or Centcom and other agencies wanted to advertise on i.com and JJ would say no.

Now they can do it, as long as they do it through google!  Problem is JJ gets shafted this way and google gets paid the big bucks and throws the leftover and bones to JJ!

Sorry JJ didn't mean to sound mean but it is what it is regardless of what you'd like or once liked.  It is now out of your hands and in the hands of google. 

Everything is sacred.

Much worse then Palin is

Much worse then Palin is all the advertisement from Israel that you see on this site. I am told that is generated by Google. I don't have any technical info as how that works and if they legally can do that. But I am personally offended to see ads from a country that constantly threads to bomb Iran, not to mention that is a racist regime. I understand that nothing is Sacred, but apparently $$$$ is.

Mehrdad

adsense/support/bin/answer.py? hl=en& answe

https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer....

'The program is free, and combines pay-per-click and pay-per-impression
advertising - meaning you get paid for valid clicks on the ads on your
site as well as impressions.'

hey it's not my fault. I was told nothing is sacred!

JJJ you (i.com) pay google? Or google pays i.com to advertise?

Everything is sacred.

Google ads

This ad is generated by Google. Palin does not advertise with iranian.com.