" I don't hate anyone. I dislike. But my dislike is the equivalent of anyone else's hate".
- Elsa Maxwell
Ok, Ok,...I agree our popularity(!), as Iranians, dropped a little by the events of 911, and Ahmadinejad, but I don't think it is still that bad, compared to many others.
(We are taking a little heat for 911 because many cannot distinguish Iran from Iraq, Syria,...just like we have a hard time not confusing Laos from Combodia!)
Prejudice and discrimination are not just facing us Iranians in the US. In fact, most people, in all countries, face them, one way or another( I'm sure you have seen how we Iranians bash Afghans, Arabs,Pakistanis, Jews, Americans, Blacks, and others).
Here in the US, take a look at the whole US population, and then the "undesired" or" discriminated against" groups( with different levels of 'undesirability'):
Blacks
Jews
Arabs
Gays
Iranians
Fat people
Southerners
Atheists
Moslems
Hispanics
Swingers
Old people
Indians
White superemasists
Pot smokers
Poor people
Eccentric people
Short people
Religeous Christians
Convicts
Smokers
Teenagers
Foreigners
New Yorkers
and the list goes on and on...
How many people do you know who do not belong to this list? I think the vast majority does. Most of us are considered 'undesirable' by 'us'.
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How do you think WE score on the 'undesirability' chart?
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I am in 3 of these
by Ali P. on Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:07 PM PSTI belong to 3 of these clubs!
(not gonna tell you which ones :-)
Is it possible that I am not as disirable as I think I am ??!
forgive them for they do not know what they do
by marux (not verified) on Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:13 AM PSTdon't react to people who dislike like, have pity on them.
PS -this mehmooni was held
by Londoner (not verified) on Mon Feb 25, 2008 07:51 AM PSTPS -this mehmooni was held in Los Angeles, California
Funny you should write this
by Londoner (not verified) on Mon Feb 25, 2008 07:48 AM PSTFunny you should write this ...
We were at a mehmooni some time ago... the subject came up re people not knowing much about Iran and other countries in the Mid East...
Bad az kolli ezhar-e nazar-e mehmoona, yek aghaee keh saaket neshasteh bood,az hameh porsid "khob ki midooneh Venezuela va Arjantin dar kodom gharreh hastand va chghadr ba ham faseleh darand?"
Ede'hi midoonestan keh dar S.America vagheh shodehand vali fagha 1 nafar dar oon mehmooni(30-40 nafar) toonest begeh dar kodoom noghteh South America vagheh shodan!
Aksaran - oonhai keh yek chizi balad boodan- fekr mikardan dorost baghal ham hastan na inkeh Caracas(Venezuela) va Buenos Aires(Argentina)
hodoodan bishtar az 5,000 km ba ham faseleh daran!
Bear in mind that the distancede between Tehran- London,UK is 4,400+ kilometers!!
(the mehmooni had both tahsil-karedh and very average ... and the age range was appx. 30 to 60)
Liking and disliking
by Kamangir on Mon Feb 25, 2008 06:48 AM PSTAlthough I completely agree with the point made, I've to say that in our case (Iranian and Middle Eastern) besides belonging to a specific 'undesirable' group we're very much feared (sometimes, intense, imminent fear) due to events taken place in the last couple of years. Another issue is that besides the US the same number of undesirable or even more exist in Europe as well.
I personallt think that this world is based on 'Liking' and 'Desliking' modes. You can apply this to many aspects of life such as, job interviews, frienships, relationships, promotions...etc... and sometimes an undesirable can be desirable if he/she is liked more tahn others. For instance, you go to a job interview (they know you're Iranian) and besides you a very Fat person and a black fellow are interwied. Maybe, you get the job because they are not keen on blacks or obese people. This is how it is. Liking and desliking is in the air all the time.
Kamangir