Palestinian issue would not exist today, IF:
1) All countries in Middle East & Gulf region would have been democratic states.
2) Israel would use the same brutal tactics by which Islam is said to have spread in 7th & 11th centuries. Convert by force all Palestinians into the Jewish religion, then absorbed them into greater Israel.
3) 87% of Israel' population would have been Sunni Muslims instead of Jews. (think of right-of-return to 5M Sh'ite Pals)
4) Israel would deal with Palestinian atrocities against innocent civilians, 'the Islamic way'. Wipe out the suicide killer's entire family, 3 generations deep.
5) Islam would have been a branch of Judaism, or Christianty
6) Israel would not prosper, economically and socially, as it is today.
7) Israel's Jewish population would have been 100 Million people, instead of only 5.9 million.
8) Had Arabs accepted UN resolution 181 back in 1947, today State of Palestine would be celebrating its 61st birthday.
9) Palestinians would unconditionally had joined the peace treaty signed with Egypt in 1978, and with Jordan in 1995.
10) The late Yasser Arafat would have accepted Camp David's peace proposal, offered to him in July 2000 by US & Israel.
11) Arabs would not sit on so much of world's oil reserve.
12) Muslim men would modify their pervasive hollow and useless honor system, and adapt to realities of today. Stop that nonsense of victimized, begging for mercy from others.
13) Those oil producing Arab countries would have spent ONLY 1% of their vast income and absorb Palestinians in the refugee camps into their countries.
14) If State of Israel would not exist, Arab leaders sure, would have invented one, to distract the attention of their people from their brutal rule.
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Let's not play games, you are a Zio-Nazi.
by ؟suomynonA (not verified) on Sat Aug 02, 2008 04:31 PM PDTHow can you tell if someone has insecurity problems? Read their words. Here are some of yours:
"Rarther it is the question of Arab or Muslims like you can face tthe reality.
To be frank, the rest of your replies are devoid of intellectual content and not worthy of further comments."
Yes I am one of the 98% moslem Iranians. I guess you just felt superior, didn't you Zio-Nazi?
Are my replies devoid of intellecual contents or is it too much for you to bear? You have a habit of slipping away from replies and questions that will expose your non-sense charade.
I am going to make this as short as possible because you, your thoughts and beliefs are just a pathetic joke.
You say:
"... If Arabs would follow the examples of other civilized countries and settle their differences through dialñog and diplomacy. EU one example"
I don't know that what you and Palestinians are planning for each other but from what I have seen so far, no nation or people who have been invaded take it lightly and 'peacefully'. So one can not expect that from Arabs or anyone else.
"Hindus in India have already demonstrated their tolerance and have accepted and respected Muslims desire to have their own states called Pakistan and Bangladesh. Arabs and Muslims also demonstrated their intolerance towards their minorities whom they cleansed the ME / Gulf region from all its Bahai, Jewish and Christian minorities. Not the other way"
Now this statement proves that you are a lier and a charlatan. Moslems did not 'cleanse' ME from any minorities. All of them are still there, unfortunately so are the Zio-Nazi invaders like yourself.
You say:
"Palestinian issue would not exist today, IF:
6) Israel would not prosper, economically and socially, as it is today."
Now what does this has to do with the GDP listing you gave me? Why would Palestinians have a problem with Israel's prosperity? Why can't you stay focused? Are you on drugs? Palestinians and everyone everyone else want you OUT of their land and that's it! What the hell does GDP and prosperity got to do with it?
Now here is my previous question that I put to you in the previous blog. Answer it.
According to you:
"Per capita, Israel graduates more engineers, doctors, archtects, then all Arab & Islamic state - combines"
List of Arab and Islamic states:
1 Afaganistan
2 Albania
3 Algeria
4 Bahrain
5 Bangladesh
6 Cameroon
7 Central African Republic
8 Chad
9 Dahomey
10 Egypt
11 Ethiopia
12 Gambia
13 Guinea
14 Guinea-Bissau
15 Indonesia
16 Iran
17 Iraq
18 Ivory Coast
19 Jordan
20 Kuwait
21 Lebanon
22 Libya
23 Malaysia
24 Maldive Islands
25 Mali
26 Mauritania
27 Morocco
28 Niger
29 Nigeria
30 Oman
31 Pakistan
32 Qatar
33 Saudi Arabia
34 Senegal
35 Sierra Leone
36 Somalia
37 South Yemen
38 Sudan
39 Syria
40 Tanzania
41 Togo
42 Tunisia
43 Turkey
44 U.A.E
45 Upper Volta
46 North Yemen
Give me that statistics for the last 1-5 years. Make sure that it can be verified by all readers. I am not even including countries with huge muslim populations like India. Nor included are the moslem population graduating from other non-moslem countries.
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One last thing. Don't make it more difficult for Jewish minority in the ME. If neutral Middle Easterners read all the crap you write, some of them may not be as tolerant as myself. There will be the greatest anti-semetic storm that will not only involve Zio-Nazies, but the innocent Jews as well. Just a warning, watch what you say. A large number of people will read your stupid anti-Moslem, anti-Iranian and anti-Arab remarks. Don't think for a moment that Israel's nukes will stop the next 'attempt' against the Jews, it will not! Take this as a friendly advise. The hate and anger is reaching a boiling point in the ME against the Jews and most of the Middle Easterners don't distinguish between Zio-Nazies and innocent Jews. I am one of the few who does.
How about some quick replies to replies
by Mehdi Mazloom on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:58 AM PDT؟suomynonA,
True to their forms, when pundits are unable to enage with intellectual polemics, they resort to lables 'zionazi"or whatever. Nonetheless, I will reply to some of your replies.
1. Reply: What has democracy got to do with Palestinian issue?
It has everything to do with it. If Arabs would follow the examples of other civilized countries and settle their differences through dialñog and diplomacy. EU one example.
3. Reply: Jewish occupation of Palestine is not a Jewish/Islamic
issue. The Jews would have taken over that land even if Hindus lived
there.
Hindus in India have already demonstrated their tolerance and have accepted and respected Muslims desire to have their own states called Pakistan and Bangladesh. Arabs and Muslims also demonstrated their intolerance towards their minorities whom they cleansed the ME / Gulf region from all its Bahai, Jewish and Christian minorities. Not the other way.
6. Israel would not prosper, economically and socially, as it is today.
Reply: Where did you get this idiotic idea from?
I got them from here.
(Sorry, the website distrots the layout).
GDPper CAPITA (2007 est).
MUSLIM
STATES:
Bangladesh---$1,400
Egypt:---------$5,400
Jordan:--------$4,700
Mauritania......$1,800
Nigeria:-------$2,200
Pakistan:------$2,600
Somalia:--------$600
Syria:---------$4,300
Sudan:--- ----$2,500
Yemen--------$2,400
TOTAL:-------$27,900
no Oil, or other natural resources of its own, One Israeli worker
produces more goods and services, then 10 of his counterparts in Arab
& Muslim Countries COMBINED.
Even
with their massive oil reserves. These Arab & Muslim states,
mano-to-mano can't surpass Israel's GDP.
Oil
rich States.
Saudi
Arabia:--$20,700
Libya:------------$13,100
Iran:--------------$12,300
Source:
//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html
It is the question of arrogance on my part. Rarther it is the question of Arab or Muslims like you can face tthe reality.
To be frank, the rest of your replies are devoid of intellectual content and not worthy of further comments.
How about some quick replies?
by ؟suomynonA (not verified) on Fri Aug 01, 2008 08:20 PM PDT1) All countries in Middle East & Gulf region would have been democratic states.
Reply: What has democracy got to do with Palestinian issue? As a matter of fact, it is the West and Israel who don't want Mideast countries to become democratic. Because if they were, they would have taken care of the Israeli problem by now. Why do you think they keep supporting the petty dictators in Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and many other ME countries?
2) Israel would use the same brutal tactics by which Islam is said to have spread in 7th & 11th centuries. Convert by force all Palestinians into the Jewish religion, then absorbed them into greater Israel.
Reply: Israel has already used a lot of brutal tactics so far. As for converting Palestinians into Jews, well as a Jew you should know that is IMPOSSIBLE. Jews just don't make other people Jewish. It must be in their blood and heritage. So, instead of converting Palestinians, they kill them or use them as slave labor.
3) 87% of Israel' population would have been Sunni Muslims instead of Jews. (think of right-of-return to 5M Sh'ite Pals)
Reply: Jewish occupation of Palestine is not a Jewish/Islamic issue. The Jews would have taken over that land even if Hindus lived there.
4) Israel would deal with Palestinian atrocities against innocent civilians, 'the Islamic way'. Wipe out the suicide killer's entire family, 3 generations deep.
Reply: That IS the Zio-Nazi/Jewish way, not an Islamic way.
5) Islam would have been a branch of Judaism, or Christianty.
Reply: As I said before, if anyone except Jews lived in Palestine, they would get the same ill treatement Israel give Palestinians. The Zio-Nazies think that Isreal is al land promised to them by God! What perverted and sadistic mentality is that?
6) Israel would not prosper, economically and socially, as it is today.
Reply: Where did you get this idiotic idea from?
7) Israel's Jewish population would have been 100 Million people, instead of only 5.9 million.
Reply: If there were any more Zio-Nazies than they are now, then the world would not have a chance to survive.
8) Had Arabs accepted UN resolution 181 back in 1947, today State of Palestine would be celebrating its 61st birthday.
Reply: Yes, but still have lost part of their territory to the Zio-Nazies. It's like okay I steal your belongings but let you live. How do you like it?
Let's celebrate the kind Zio-Nazi offer.
9) Palestinians would unconditionally had joined the peace treaty signed with Egypt in 1978, and with Jordan in 1995.
Reply: Again, more land lost to Zio-Nazi Jews.
10) The late Yasser Arafat would have accepted Camp David's peace proposal, offered to him in July 2000 by US & Israel.
Reply: Same as above.
11) Arabs would not sit on so much of world's oil reserve.
Reply: If ME countries did not have oil, then the West would not need nor supported Israel and it would have never existed as long as it has now.
12) Muslim men would modify their pervasive hollow and useless honor system, and adapt to realities of today. Stop that nonsense of victimized, begging for mercy from others.
Reply: What kind of non-sense are you talking about? They only ones playing the "victim" are the Zionist Jews. They still act as if Hitler was alive today. Nobody buys this kind of crap these days.
13) Those oil producing Arab countries would have spent ONLY 1% of their vast income and absorb Palestinians in the refugee camps into their countries.
Reply: Whys should they? Israel is the guilty party here. Why should anyone else pay for their crimes?
14) If State of Israel would not exist, Arab leaders sure, would have invented one, to distract the attention of their people from their brutal rule.
Reply: This is one issue that you can get a bit of credit for. It is true for some Arab leaders.
You are one arrogant individual. It is not surprising that you get the support of all the dumb-asses.
10 Sheqels for the pictures of the raped women by the Israel's
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Aug 01, 2008 03:37 PM PDTpresident. Since you mentioned these women were very sexy.
Ignorance
by Zion on Fri Aug 01, 2008 03:28 PM PDTFred, you nailed it my friend. The degree of ignorance is just awe inspiring. The hatred too not surprisingly, since they form a vicious cycle. Hatred begets ignorance and ignorance begets hatred and you end up like these morons.
Mehdi good job as usual. keep it up and don`t waste your time responding to degenerate fools. You have said your points with reason and politely. Those who deserve it will get your points.
Mola Nasredeen -Name of the women
by Mehdi Mazloom on Fri Aug 01, 2008 03:19 PM PDTFirst, Kastav is not a new nor old convert. In fact, since during Muhammad's barberic raid on Khybar - where he killed hundred of Jewish man, then forced converted their woman (Think of Sefia) into Islam, it is far more plausiable that you (if you are a Muslim) would have a Jewish blood and genes, then Kattsav would have Muslim blood.
unfortunatly the name of those women have been withheld from the media. However, from their sexsy and lusty figurs, one can see why khoda had made him do it.
Anonymous in DC you ask Why?????
by Mehdi Mazloom on Fri Aug 01, 2008 02:56 PM PDTI have yet to read anywhere, Jews or Israelis label themselves as Jewish-supremacist. None. It is rather many Arabs and other fringe Muslims who for whatever reason resort to this label.
Why do I post here?. it is simple, to give others the opportunity to see the conflict from the Israeli side. Also, You should ask this question those Iranians who blindly support their "fellow Muslims"?. Or Perhaps you should ask the Akhoonda in Tehran, who try to be more Palestinians then the Pals themselves. Don't they spend hundreds of millions of dollars which belong to the Iranian people on the Pals?. The same Arabs whom have been educated not trust the Farsis. .
you write:
This author basically writes the same article over and over: Muslims
are bad; Jews are the Chosen People. Okay, we get it. Thank you for
your message of truth, Mr "Mazloom". What does this possibly contribute
to anybody? Are we planning to change the name of Iranian.com to
Israeli.com?
If you have been indoctrinated to hear the same (fundamentalist) propaganda from whatever sources, it does not mean I do the same. Beside, on all my blogs, I re-iterated my respect and admiration to the Iranian people, whom I also speak their language. If you have complexes with self esteem, I can't help you.
Finally, Agha or khanom, I write whatever I think I should write, not what you think I should.
What are the names of the 4 women raped by our president
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:18 AM PDTMoshe Katsav. Does anybody know? As a new convert who left Islam because of its cruelties I like to know the names of these women.
Soufi: This is not Arab.com
by soufipoofy (not verified) on Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:50 AM PDTSoufi: This is not Arab.com or Islam.com
Do you see yourself as a muslim then you're not Iranian.
Moses' stick is for sale on eBay offered by Moshe
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:29 AM PDTStart your bids.
Point 14
by Kurdish Warrior (not verified) on Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:11 AM PDTis so true...
...The first is that a war
by sickofislamists (not verified) on Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:06 AM PDT...The first is that a war that produces a victor and a vanquished bestows special responsibilities on the former. It is up to the victor to define the contours of victory and the new equilibrium that emerges after hostilities cease. The victor writes the peace treaty and the vanquished swallows it, even when the taste is bitter.
In the case of Israel this mechanism did not work because each time Israel won a war, the United Nations intervened to put the victor and the vanquished on the same level, thus making a new equilibrium conditional on a hoped-for but unlikely agreement.
The reason for this novel situation was simple: The UN had been created precisely to prevent states from going to war. After 1945 the only wars regarded as legitimate had to be fought under the banner of the UN or under the Chapter 7 of its charter and with the approval of the Security Council. Had Israel won its wars before the creation of the UN it would have been able to do what all victors had always done in history: Dictate the peace with which it is comfortable.
The problem was that the UN while preventing the victor from cashing his victory was itself unable to produce the kind of peace it liked. The result was the 57-year-long stalemate which produced four more wars, and endless misery for both Palestinians and Israelis.
Having said all that, the failure of the UN tells only part of the story.
Another key reason for the stalemate was the inability or unwillingness of successive Israeli leaders to produce a clear definition of what Israel was. From the beginning Israel has been a work in progress, an unfinished product. It is the only 20th century state in the world without a constitution. It is also one of a handful without clearly demarcated borders. It is also the only member state of the United Nations not to be recognized by more than two dozen fellow-member states.....Read the rest.
ISRAEL MAY IMPOSE A VICTOR'S PEACE ON PALESTINIANS
//www.benadorassociates.com/article/19428
what if Israel had done what
by whatif (not verified) on Fri Aug 01, 2008 09:47 AM PDTwhat if Israel had done what any other country would have done in the past when they had won a war??
does anybody know where Moses' walking stick is?
by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Aug 01, 2008 09:27 AM PDTAs a new convert to judism We (my camel and I) want to know.
Mehdi Mazloom
by IRANdokht on Fri Aug 01, 2008 08:41 AM PDTI always knew that you picked this ID for a reason.
Thanks for the laugh :0)
IRANdokht
They want nuke too
by Fred on Fri Aug 01, 2008 08:15 AM PDTIslamist says: “ Zio-nazis are known throughout history to be racist people. The whole South African apartite was controlled and established by them . They started the "slave trade" that brought millions of africans to Americas, etc, etc. No wonder in Koran, god curses them as the worst beings that god could have created! Don't ask me why creator did this, that would be a different discussion! “The combination of this level of knowledge and hate is asking to be trusted with nuke too.
Re: Peace and justice in holy land! (To: ali reza)
by Shining Head on Fri Aug 01, 2008 06:03 AM PDTGod Forbid "ali reza". Are you saying zio-nazis are "racists"? Wow. Since when? They claim to be "chosen people"! How can they be racists?
P.S.
If you are not getting the drift "alis reza", I think you are VERY simple minded boy! Zio-nazis are known throughout history to be racist people. The whole South African apartite was controlled and established by them . They started the "slave trade" that brought millions of africans to Americas, etc, etc. No wonder in Koran, god curses them as the worst beings that god could have created! Don't ask me why creator did this, that would be a different discussion!
Let see...
by ThePope on Fri Aug 01, 2008 02:52 AM PDTall of your
"ifs" one by one:
1-That's called hallucination, dude...!
2-"Brutal tactics"; one good solution on how to deal with arabs (taazi), excellent.
3-!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
4-Amazing, definintly your best solution yet. Bravo.
5-HELL-O!! Islam IS A BRANCH OF Judaism and Christianity. You don't know the Abrahamic religions at all!
6-Impossible. They're supported by the "west"...
7-A bit dangerous, but still, a good "strategy" for Isrealis to fight their cousins, the arabs (taazi)!
8-No, right now speaking, there's 22 taazi countries plus 2 territories. Why make it 23 taazi countries...?!!!!!! Bad solution.
9-No dif
10-Don't talk about taazi fagets. PLEASE.
11-Good idea. Taazis do NOT deserve so much wealth... or any!
12-Taazis can't do that. They're bunch of losers,,, by nature.
13-That's exactly what Isreal's saying for a long time now. Get the fuck out, and go live in one the 22 taazi countries... of your brothers.
14-Well, Isreal does exist...exactly for that purpose
Peace and justice in holy land!
by Ali reza (not verified) on Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:00 PM PDTIf Israel treats everybody including Muslim and Christian equally we would not have had the problem that we are facing now.She is treating her own Jewish population as children of god and treating the Palestinian population as children of lesser god and her enemy.
2 Major points
by Aziz (not verified) on Thu Jul 31, 2008 09:53 PM PDTPoints 8 and 13 summarizes the entire situation.
Its true, whether we like it or not
if jews did not buy there
by zeto (not verified) on Thu Jul 31, 2008 09:42 PM PDTif jews did not buy there land and treat them as second hand citizens.
the only ones for god ?
human rights .
if hezbulla and hummas did not fight back.
if us was not one sided .
if people like you did not support isreal
Sufi
by roshanaee (not verified) on Thu Jul 31, 2008 09:25 PM PDTدرود بر شما!
خوش امدی به جمع ما.
Re: Why is this stuff on Iranian.com? Why?
by soufi on Thu Jul 31, 2008 08:58 PM PDTBecause "Mehdi Mazloom" (alias) is a lacky of zio-nazis and is trying to "brain wash" iranians on iranian.com in order for iranians not to hate the zio-nazis. He is a very simple minded man, as you can tell from his writings!
Allaho Akbar...
Why is this stuff on Iranian.com? Why?
by Anonymous in DC (not verified) on Thu Jul 31, 2008 08:39 PM PDTThis racist and Jewish-supremacist nonsense belongs on Jerusalem Post or Ynet or some other Israeli website. When an Iranian Muslim writes anything that is 1/1000th as hostile to Jews as this author is to Muslims and other "Goyim", he is considered "anti-semitic". Why is it that some Israeli can come on Iranian.com of all sites and post this stuff, day after day after day? This author basically writes the same article over and over: Muslims are bad; Jews are the Chosen People. Okay, we get it. Thank you for your message of truth, Mr "Mazloom". What does this possibly contribute to anybody? Are we planning to change the name of Iranian.com to Israeli.com?
I would appreciate it if you would post this comment in its entirety, as I have refrained from profanity. Thank you.