Imagine you are on a long flight and as you take your seat, all of a sudden, Ahmadinejad and his entourage enter the plane and Ahmadinejad decides to sit next to you! He notices your laptop and the iranian.com Web page that is open and start by saying, "I have heard of that site. I hear you guys don't like us very much. Are you people not Iranian? What is it about the Islamic government that you guys don't like?" You think to yourself, this is a golden opportunity; something I have dreamed about sometimes. I am going to let him know. And you start...
"Sir, why don't you give people more freedom? Why don't you remove the hijab law for women? Why don't you allow the students to freely create political groups and oppose your government - the way it is sometimes done in the West? Why don't you announce equal human rights for people of any religion? ..."
Ask him anything you want, without thinking what he may answer. Write it down. Then try to answer it from Ahmadinejad's viewpoint. Tell us what you found. Do your best to answer from Ahmadinejad's viewpoint and not yours!
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Agha Mehdi
by salaamat (not verified) on Sun Aug 31, 2008 03:50 PM PDTYou must be absolutely out of your mind posing and defending such a monster in monsterous environment. Talking about Bahaii? Man! Wake up and smell the coffee, you seems very ignorant and a little bit unaware of what is happening with religions in Iran. Do you want me to give you the statistics? Man! Wake up!
Re: Again to my point, you have
by Mehdi on Tue Jul 22, 2008 04:55 PM PDTIt seems that you are upset with me, but I am not sure why. You seem to be just looking for an excuse to vent. You have made a bunch of claims with no evidence and yet I have made no claims and you want evidence. You claim "the economy is awful..." Compared to what? I know of many economies that are worse. What does that prove? You claim "no religious freedom.." I know there are over 10,000 Jewish living in Iran and there are still Baha'i and Christians. Is it heaven for them? I don't know of any country where it is a heaven for all religious groups. So what does that prove? There is no equality for women? I think that's another super-exaggeration.
That was part of the reason I brought up this imaginary interview. So that people like yourself become more acquainted with reality as opposed to what they have heard on mass media. I was hoping people would put themselves in Ahmadinejad's shoes and THEN provide solutions, because then they would know that it is not as easy as it looks. Ahmadinejad has his own limitations and barriers. I brought up Bazargaan and Bani Sadr simply to point out that even when there were more democratic people, they were not able to do anything, due to partly the ignorance of the masses and also the mafia that exists there which will not allow any betterment. So I was trying to get people to use their minds and discover solutions. That's all.
Again to my point, you have
by t (not verified) on Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDTAgain to my point, you have obvioulsy not been or lived in Iran to see that you don't have to turn stones to find problems in Iran. The economy is awful, there are no social services, no personal freedom, no religious freedom, and inequality for women to state a few. That also holds true in other countries but it is the gravity of the problem that is at issue. Not only there is no religious freedom or equality for women; the law explicitly discriminates against these two groups. Imagine that covers over 50% of the population!!!
Due to your lack of maturity and political knowledge, or frankly your twisted logic, you make it sound as if poor Mr. Ahmadinejad is stuck trying to deal with these issues. Mr. Ahmadinejad promotes the Islamic fundementalism that causes such problems. How can you ever have a democractic theology. It doesn't exist.
As to having "grown intellectually after a few years living in the West." I think for you that means having received a degree of some kind entitling you to a higher income. You may be book smart but you certainly are socially and politically naive and ignorant.
Lastly, you speak of Bani Sadr and Bazargan. How much do you know of them and their governments, and have you read Bani Sadr's book or is it merely something you have heard from others and name dropping.
To: IRANdokht
by Mehdi on Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:41 PM PDTThanks. But what do you think he will answer you? Any ideas?
Re: What's Your Point ?
by Mehdi on Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:39 PM PDTThe point is most of us have an idea of how Iran or any government should be - very democratic and with lots of freedom for people. There should be no corruption and there should be justice for all. We have a pretty good idea of what the ideal scenario is like. And usually we complain why conditions are not what they should be. But I find that our thinking usually is not practical, meaning we are not looking at all the barriers and problems; barriers and problems that anybody in charge would have to deal with.
Some of these barriers are the person's own upbringing and education and local customs, etc. Imagine how we all grow intellectually after only a few years living in the west.
So I am looking for PRACTICAL solutions that an average guy could come up with. Somebody could say, why don't we have more freedom? Ahmadinejad might whisper in your ear that Bazargan and Bani Sadr originally tried to create a fairly democratic environment. They were simply taken out. So how is that helpful?
I am thinking that this execise can help understand the actual issues that are barriers to a modern society. If the real barriers are identified, I believe solutions will then present themselves quite easily. If we think we know what the problem is and we can't come up with a solution, I think, we have not truly identified the problem and what we are looking at, is not the real source of trouble. I hope this also answers your second comment :-)
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by MRX1 (not verified) on Mon Jul 21, 2008 07:45 PM PDTpeople like Ahmadijejad are too brainwashed to have dialogue with.It's having conversation with some one from 9th century. The only soultuion for people like him is a bulet in back of their head. Frankly even that is a too much of humane solution.
To Finish My Thought
by t (not verified) on Mon Jul 21, 2008 05:16 PM PDT"Are you people not Iranian? What is it about the Islamic government that you guys don't like?"
To pose such scenario is a clear indication that you've been out of the country for sometime and know very little about your beloved country and Islam. In an Islamic country, being Iranian and keeping the Iranian culture, etc... is not important. The IRI merely likes to promote Islam. So, Ahmadinejad cares less about whether or not we are Iranian. He may ask "are you not Moslems?"
"What is it about the Islamic government that you guy's don't like?"
Let me ask you, what are the things about the Islamic government which you like? I bet you were raised in the US and live a comfortable life in the US, got the opportunity to go to college, have a job, go drinking and gambling with your buddies, have slotty girls spend weekends with you and live it up. All those things are prohibited and/or impossible under IRI. I suggest you pay Mr. Ahmadinejad's country a visit and see what life is really like under the IRI. Then maybe you can better answer your own question.
What's Your Point ?
by t (not verified) on Mon Jul 21, 2008 04:49 PM PDTDear Mehdi, I don't understand the point you're trying to make nor the reason for your question.
I don't need to think what Ahmadinejad's answer maybe because he is given ample time and opportunity to tell us what he thinks. What is important is for this idiot to see what the majority of his countrymen think.
You're thinking is twisted. You should put the laptop on his lap and tell him to read and see what the people who he supposidly represents think of him and more importantly the issues.
I would not be so kind, If I were so honored to see Ahmadinejad, I would spit in his face.
I would use my lap top and
by Majid on Mon Jul 21, 2008 03:50 PM PDTI would use my lap top and get on the internet and show him this clip:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcNWStZz7OQ&feature...
And I would ask him:
Mr. Ahmadi nejad, do you by any chance know who this person is?
To answer me, I think he'll push me out of the emergency door while laughing and shouting :
S S S U C K E.........R R R R R R !
Mr President
by IRANdokht on Mon Jul 21, 2008 02:10 PM PDTA couple of years ago, an artist (Pink) asked George Bush questions in her song: Dear Mr President, how do you sleep while the rest of us cry... and after a few more questions , she finally asked: can you even look me in the eye and tell me why?
well... with Ahmadinejad I know he can't look me in the eye, he probably wouldn't even talk to me and have a conversation.
You don't know me but I assure you I will talk to him anyway!
I'll ask him how it feels to be blamed for everything and be the hated one, when he's got no power or control of the government.
I would ask him why Iranians even have to pretend they're voting for a president and how important is it to call it a democracy if they really don't care what the rest of the world thinks of them.
I would question his spirituality: how can someone pretend to be a believer and a decent God-loving individual, while he's the president of a country where people are hungry, children work on the streets instead of going to school, young people are prostituting and/or on drugs, inflation is high and half the people are unemployed, children are being hanged and people are being stoned. How can he be proud of holding such title...
I would also tell him that someone who's a "doctor mohandes" and holds the title of the president of Iran should really think twice before repeating the stupid words of an old mullah like Khomeini, because some people even if they do remember the first time they heard the garbage they would blame him for the problems that those words cause!
Since he won't be answering, I have all the time to throw one last question at him:
did Mahdi ever write you back?
IRANdokht
Abarmard: Think positive :)
by Mehdi on Mon Jul 21, 2008 01:38 PM PDTIf nothing could impact him, there would be no way of impacting most of Iranians, it seems. If we go by that idea, then I think it means that only brute force could make a change in Iran. Is that what you see?
Personally, I think he changed quite a bit after he visited the US. It seems to me that his view that the West is all evil became modified a bit. No?
Fred, get off those happy pills
by Mehdi on Mon Jul 21, 2008 04:22 PM PDTThen try writing a comment again - I can't figure out what you are trying to say.
For your information, I don't hate the Jewish people. I actually rented a room in a house for a few months, that belonged to a Jewish family. The parents were my parent's age. I could hardly tell the difference between them and my parents. Same grumblings, same complaints about life, same laughter, same avoiding the rabbi on Saturdays (just like my mom would try to avoid the local mullah on Fridays). They actually liked me very much. They regularly brought me fruit they had picked from their farm and they liked my Persian music. I think they were from Middle East somewhere.
In fact, I don't even hate the ZioNazis - but I do fight their mentality and stand up against it. I think if people had stood up to Hitler, now we wouldn't have to mourn the death of so many people. If you had even a little concern for the Jewish people, you wouldn't do all you can in order to start a religious war between the Muslims and the Jewish people. Keep in mind that there are apparently 10,000 Jewish people living inside Iran. Any slightest conflict could mean violence between the two which could result in catastrophe. Don't be an active warmonger among religions.
Nothing could be said to him
by Abarmard on Mon Jul 21, 2008 07:47 AM PDTI have spoken and argued with people similar to Ahmadinejad. He is not dumb but very strong in his ideology and religion. Believe me when I say that he probably will convince most of us about his ideology being right than the other way around.
Ahmadinejad does believe that there is higher being watching over him. He is superstitious yet semi aware about the Iranian history. His economical shortcomings comes from this logic:
Imagine that you are poor growing up and dream that if you were in charge you would help the poor and transfer the wealth of the country to the poorest. He has tried just that and the result speaks for themselves. He has no sense about the economy, and regardless of his intentions, he does not want to change.
He would be decent in running an small village or town but not fit to be a president of Iran.
Also remember than when he started being the president, he allowed the women to attend soccer games and the clergy over ruled his move. That should give you the sense that talking to him about social freedom or economy is meaningless.
Kindred spirit
by Fred on Mon Jul 21, 2008 03:02 AM PDTMr. Ahmadinejad, what do you think of the Islamists/Anti-Semites and their likeminded lefty allies including the Islamist lobbyists’ insistence on putting the entire three decades long Islamist republic’s crime spree on your shoulder alone. As you see even your frenzied Jew-hating kindred spirits are at it too.