Fighting Words

To: OnlyIran

Thank you for your kind words. The thing about IRI  also leftist is that they want to decide for all of us.

In 1979 they decided that Iran must have no relations with the USA. The "students" could not care less what the majority of Iranians wanted. Being communist they figured they know better. Why bother asking? So they took hostages and wrecked Iran's relation with the USA. Plus they cost Iran over 8 billion dollars. Much more than all their worthless hides.

Now they have decided that Iran must confront the USA. Why? In order to fulfill their idea of fairness and justice. Now how about asking the Iranian people? How about some free and fair elections. Maybe a referundum on "whether to confront USA or work with it". I bet they will not get the response they want. But again: they know better. Why bother to involve the ordinary person. The Islamists and leftists know best. No worry that majority of people do not want this.

The "cause heads" will fight to the last drop of Iranian blood. Then run away  to the West after they fail. Or the smarter ones are already in the West. They want to hail the poor suckers in Iran as they march to death against the USA.  Not so fast! Iranians are on to it and won't fall for it. The war with Iraq was enough. We do not need to die in any more wars. Specially if it is not necessary. 

VPK

onlyiran's flawed logic can be turned on its head

by your logic, USA and Israel deserve to be attacked for provoking, interfering and many a times illegally propping up dictators in the region for many decades, starting with iran!!!

by your logic, Iran has every right to be pissed off at US for helping Saddam Hussein for 8 years to kill(gas) many iranians, for bringing down a plane full of passengers, for staging coup to bring back Shah, for oiling his machinery for many decades. You think only Iranian actions have consequences? No chief, US and western world's actions too have consequences. Their interference in the region gave rise to Islamism.

I am no regime supporter, I hate them and what they stand for but I can detect bullshit biased one sided nonsense wherever I see it. It is you who needs to stop seeing the world in a black and white binary format. you, the regime, and the us/israel government all need to get out of your respective bubbles and set aside your arrogance. World doesn't revolve you and your fucked up dreams for the world.

داریوش جان، اولی‌ مزدوره

 گماشته چون ایرونی‌ نیست، خائن هم نیست؛ مزدوره. تعریفت برای دومی‌ درسته.

اون یکی‌ مزدور خائن که میپرسه به  `رهبران ایرونی` نصیحت ات چیه؟ `نوکر بمونن`؟ جوابش ساده است. هر وقت `رهبران ایرونی` اومدن سر کار راجع بهش صحبت می‌کنیم. اول باید این `نوکر بمونن؟`‌ها رو که از روز اول نوکر و مزدور بودن و معلوم نیست در کدوم کشتارگاه تعلیم دیدن بندازیم بیرون، و دوران مزدوری، نوکری و خفّت رو تموم کنیم که `رهبران ایران و ایرانی` کثافت و ننگ ۳۱ سال رو تمیز کنن. نصیحتش هم به ایرونیهای غیر خائن مربوطه.

Oktaby 

Well said VPK

The problem here is that IRI supporters think anyone not hating USA  is a sell out. You don't need to be picking a fight all the time.

Burning flags and chanting "marg bar ...." is NOT independence.  It's belligerence and war mongering.   

Master

The real Masters of Iran are the Iranian People. You bet the IRI must submit to them. Good systems always submit to their masters: the people.

The problem here is that IRI supporters think anyone not hating USA  is a sell out. You don't need to be picking a fight all the time.  Worse you don't have a right to force other people into your fights. Maybe I don't want to fight the big bad West. You go fight them. Don't you dare try to push me into it. I don't hate the West enough for a fight.

NP

My advise to the current IRI leadership is:

• Reform the constitution
• Remove the unelected VF and assembly of experts
• Remove the need to vet candidate; allow anyone who wants to run
• GIve a general amnesty to all political prisoners inside and outside Iran. With the exception of MKO leadership.
• Give a general amnesty to Iranians ouside of Iran. Not including MKO.
• Hold honest and open elections for all offices.
• Have the new Majlis work on a new constitution.
• Produce a democratic constitution which guarantees peoples rights and does not include any unelected positions of power. All real power must be in elected hands.
• Give in to their real Masters: The Iranian People. No shame in that.

Responses

Louie, DK and Fooladi:  Thanks for your kind comments.  The problem is indeed arrogance and belligerence.  Let's let "sargord" vent off.  He's frustrated about something...perhaps because no one takes him seriously.    

Free: I hope that it doesn't come to that point.  But our friends in the IRI are working on it.  

NP: No one needs to "serve the master". That's precisely the problem with the ideology that you support.  It's an "us against them mentality".  A nation can be independent without being violent and belligerent.  There are many examples of that, such as Brazil and India.  None of these countries threatened anyone with annihilation or "wiping anyone of the face of the world". Also, as I said in the blog, the problem with this type of thinking is that the IRI and its supporters think that the world revolves around them.  It does not.  The U.S., and other nations, will be more than happy to do business with the IRI (even on its terms) had it not been for its belligerence.  That's what Carter tried to do at the beginning of the revolution before the hostage crisis.  

The other problem with IRI's brand of belligerence is the fact that it comes nowhere close to be on par with the U.S. on any kind of a military level.  So, its boasts are threatening the people of Iran.  One has to acknowledge his own weaknesses and not pick a fight when he knows that he will be annihilated.  Now, if the IRI's militarily was in China's position back in the 50's, or the USSR during the cold war, then I could see them lock horns with the U.S.  But when your military strength is one millionth of another nation, why in the world would you want to act belligerent and give it an excuse?  You can maintain your independence without picking a fight. 

I know you want to fight the bad old imperialism and you've got

some valid points but can't you find better people to do it? The people you support are very much stuck in 7th century mentality and they don't shy away from stonning people to death. 

Actually I saw a very good movie "Year One", they did the stonnig around the time of Babylonian. It's 21st century for crying out loud!

this is not

badly written actually. the conclusion is off by a long way but some of the argumentation is strong.

what is your advice to the current iranian leadership? serve the master?

but your beloved iri would say the same thing to you.

is your problem with their style? too abrasive? 

don't you precisely have that same style?

Peace

what a great news!

 How soon we party? These Arab God lovers will start the war first, not the american or any body else and it is not because they are strong because they are wounded and weak and they need life line by killing all oppositions  and starting new life line and result will be nothing like we have seen before. only time will tell, will it be for good or worse.

Thank you!

Excellent blog as always. Onlyiran jaan, at least sargord is honest about his ideology, unlike those who keep changing their position on daily bases and are very good at sweeping the dirt under the rug!

جناب فقط ایران

به این جونورهای جمهوری اسلامی میگن پررو.  بنده در این مورد یک بلاگی هم جدیدا نوشتم. 

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Good blog Only Iran, Thanks.

It is very useful to read about how & why Ghankis khan the mongol attacked Iran and laid waste to the entire country. At that time, just like now, Iran was ruled by a bunch of arrogant, incompetent rulers with no underatanding of enemy.

SPink Jaan there are ONLY Two Kinds of Iranians today ...

There Are Iranians on one hand ... and then There are Collaborators like YOU ... 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5V2QSuoJQc&feature=related

Iran's Brave Army of the Shadows Shall Triumph Over Your likes sooner or later  ...

So, tell us sargord

What part of you is actually Iranian?  You say that your relatives are French.  You, yourself are an American who can't read or write Farsi.  You may have visited Iran as a child.  What gives you the authority to tell Iranians what to do and what to say?  A little arrogant of you, wouldn't you say...telling people of another country how to live their lives?

BTW, what part of anything that I have written in my blog is not true? 

Looks like the false sense

Looks like the false sense of triumphalism that was so prevalent pre-22 Bahman has since given way to the usual shrill we were so accustomed to before, from certain disgruntled elements of the exile community.

Ho, hum. Go ahead and stir in your own juices.