Quintessential Questions

Condi matters too

She knows exactly where Dubya screwed up and she's been documented as someone who did not agree with Dubya on a large range of issues. I hope she'll leave the state dept with some good ideas because it might be her last shot. She also said that Obama's achievements are spectacular and significant, while keeping very quiet about McCain/Palin. Does that make her racist too? Racism is lynching, segregation and slavery. Just because the Republican party has not adequately attracted minorities does not mean that they are racist for not voting for them.

AW & skatermom

First, is it not such a waste of cyber space that the same person should make two usernames but comes across the same on both?...lol. Why can't you Irooni women, struggling to be accepted as Emrikaaee sound a little more subtle?!

Second, am I surprized that you don't understand the meaning of "having your cake and eat it"? Not at all! You know, for a few minutes, I forgot that I was writing for Iroonis trying to sound Emrikaaee, so I pitched my language skills a little higher than your accepted norm. But then I remembered that even the genuine Emrikaaees can't speak or write proper English, so, once again, I lowered my level to that of yours. Google the adage honey and learn something (that is if you can understand it...LoL) - on second thought let me help you. Here, read it:

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Did you get it? "Having two incompatible things", Got it? :(

Oh, and it is clear that you didn't get the meaning of the second adage either - you thought I meant Obama is Catholic? .....ROTFL! Listen Khanum Emrikaaee, it takes more than a spell checker to make you sound Emrikaaee. You obviously haven't heard of this popular adage either :( It has nothing to do with Catholicism. It means when someone, like Obama, is trying to come across as whiter than the white or more Christian than the traditional Christians(hence more pious than the Pope). This time you Google it (still laughing ...).

Listen, you must give me a little credit at least for having forced a quasi-intelligent uttrance out of you ladies ...FOCL (Falling Off the Chair Laughing)!

IRANdokht

Condi will vote for Obama because as a woman she's utterly appalled at McClueless' selection of a VP....LOL

It will have NOTHING to do with race... :-)

I knew it!

I knew that Powell being black would come up to downplay the wise choice that he made. So predictable!I wonder if condi would vote for Obama cuz we KNOW all blacks are voting for Obama.

Who knows when they'll say William Buckley's son is black too... 

IRANdokht

Colin Powell & Obama

Maybe that General Powell has formally endorsed Senator Obama, maybe an intelligent discussion of the role race is playing in this election will begin.

I highly doubt it, but there's nothing wrong with hoping.

I love my new

I love my new president.
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Bystander

I gotta go with Nazanin... who ARE you?  And what is your problem? You sound just like another "anonymous" coward who hangs around making idiotic comments.

The trouble with you Iroonis is that you want to have the cake and eat it too.   Are you Iranian yourself?  Because if you aren't and you're speaking as an American, you are WAY OUT OF LINE.  If you are, then you're ten time more quilty for criticizing anyone for using "terms" with regard to McClueless and the "pit bull".  Calling your own people "Iroonis"?  What a hypocrite!

I'm not sure what you mean by having your cake and eating it too.  I don't really consider anyone here an atheist.  I think most people simply don't believe in RELIGION, or more specifically, an organized religion.  What does that have to do with being accepted by mainstream America anyway, whatever that means. 

You're right about one thing.  It would be unrealistic to think a non-religious person would be elected to a high office NOW, much less a practicing Muslim.  But 20 years ago if someone had said a black man and a woman were to run, you'd laugh your ass off.  The hubby and I were talking about this just last night.  In another 20 years... who knows.  We ARE moving forward, albeit too slowly for me. 

As far as the comment about Obama "trying" to be Catholic.... say WHAT?  I really need to hear more about that one....LOL.

Actually, in reading your posts again, I think you DO have a registered name and are just slumming it.  Your terrible language skills are reminiscent of another.

Jeffrey Lebowski

People who think this election is about race (versus racism) haven't been paying attention. But like my hero Jeffrey Lebowski said "That's just like your opinion man."

Nazanin

Who said this election is NOT about race?????

If you had any doubt, it should be gone by now. By now you should know who is the racist.

Listen to your hero, Geraldine Ferraro.

Colin Powell Endorsed Obama

AMAZING!! He cited the negative campaigning as one of his reasons. McCain better have his punching bags and stress balls ready while Cindy whips out the "Aromatherapy."

Bystander, stop obsessing about my citizenship and identity. Leave me alone. I am not the subject of this blog.

Ghassemian: it is DENOmination and NOT DOmination!!

Either you are too hysteric to notice the difference or you don't know the meaning of the term I used. Either way you keep repeating your babble regardless. Second, you must have confused me with another of your "admirers". I can't remember to have mentioned you in the past so stop accusing people.
You are no real American my dear - only an Irooni dreaming to be an Emrikaaee :-)

"Bystander" You're more of a spy than any of us can dream to be

Who is this guy/gal?

Terms like McSame and Moose-A-lini may force a chuckle out of some but more significantly show how desperate a number of Iranians are to be recognized as American citizens.

This is really disturbing to read. Before you attacked me by calling me other nasty names. This is a big change. I want a lot of things, but that's not one of them. Those nicknames don't just force chuckles - they make you wonder what the McBush ticket is really about. Someone who brags about hunting moose, fires librarians and bans library books which she hasn't yet read, deserves a nickname like Moose-a-lini. Another favorite I've used here and elsewhere is Ayatollah Sarah. Why'd ya skip that one? Particularly if you're going to accuse Obama of "Christian domination". Sarah Palin's entire policy structure is based on her faith - including war. Reminds me of a certain leader from the 80's during another war with Iraq.

Bystander

Your comment is so full of generalizations that I was going to just let go and allow people to judge the validity of your "bystander" position, but then again I can't keep quiet when someone is making such remarks as:

"Obama is more of an American than all you Iroonis put togther. Do you know why? Not only because he has a white American mother but because he is a believer of Christian denomination"

Are you serious? him being Christian makes him more American? Do I have to remind you that this country was founded by secular people who wrote the constitution allowing freedom of speech, assembly and religion?

It doesn't matter, you proved your true colors when you stated your generalizations.

If you look at the pro-Obama comments here, you see not everyone is using those nicknames to refer to McCain and Palin. That didn't stop you from generalizing though:

"the language you use to worship your idol Obama and berate his opponent speaks volumes about the calibre of Iranians who support Obama."

Unlike what you seem to believe, every citizen of this country is allowed to have a political opinion and vote for the candidate that they find most suitable for the position. It has nothing to do with where the citizen nor the candidate comes from, except in the narrow mind of the people who see it the way you do.

Ghessemian!

Your childish zeal and the quality of the language you use to worship your idol Obama and berate his opponent speaks volumes about the calibre of Iranians who support Obama. Terms like McSame and Moose-A-lini may force a chuckle out of some but more significantly show how desparate a number of Iranians are to be recognized as American citizens. After all if a second generation Kenyan can become the president, there must be hope for the third generation Iroonis to enter the upper echelons of the administration. You may not like to be reminded of this fact but the truth is that Obama is more of an American than all you Iroonis put togther. Do you know why? Not only because he has a white American mother but because he is a believer of Christian denomination. The trouble with you Iroonis is that you want to have the cake and eat it too! You have to decide whether you want to show off your athiestic pretentions and at the same time you need to be accepted by the mainstream American community.

So I suggest to enjoy your present pureile freaks while they last because soon after BO walks the Pennsylvania Avenue, you will see that "Barak the Same" is no different than "Johnny with Cane".

Everybody?

No. Not everybody.

Don't try and bring others into it. If I have anything to discuss or debate with them, I'll do that directly. It doesn't merit your involvement or input.

You are so far off base it's unbelievable. You are so desperate to try and win an argument that you are willing to resort to manufacturing things in order to save face.

"Afro-American" is so 1973....Racism is a luxury in this economy

Several agencies have reported on this: Obama is winning even racist constituencies in West Virginia and Texas, because racism is a luxury to a lot of people in this economy. Everyone wants to tear this man down, but they've failed. I am so excited about an Obama presidency and administration. Bill Richardson or "Dr. Zhivago" is awesome and he was great in the debates. Jim Webb is another person who I think deserves to have more attention in the future. Obama has brought a lot of good ideas and thinkers together, and that's a reason to look forward to change. McSame is well, McSame.

Instead of devoting resources to Maverick and Moose-A-lini The Republicans should focus more of their funds and elbow grease on the Congressional and Senate elections, because they're about to get pummeled in those.

Obama is just as racist as his opposers

Is it not so clear that Obama is winning this election on the strength of "a positively discriminated racism"? As one commentator put it elsewhere:

Obama is going to be the next president "not in spite of" BUT "because of" being an Afro-American.

There are no other issues. Period!

EVERYBODY has issues!

Kaveh everybody who talks to you or about your so called arguments and logic has issues. Everybody! right?

Somehow we all end up having issues except you. Okay if that makes you feel better.

As far as you calling people the N word, I didn't say that Mr. Consultant to franchises. I said white calling blacks the N word "made them feel good", like "you feel good" calling people 'other' similar names.

This means when you call somebody, white trash, idiot, IRI apologist, Islamist, ignorant, etc., it "makes you feel good". You can add the N word to your repetua if you like, but this was your "point" wasn't it?! that if a black calls a white, honky it is racist and there can no argument on this point!

So as you say your nose can smell something 30 minutes away at 65 miles per hour or about 40 miles away!

Forget it. Have a good weekend Haji!

Lefty

You clearly have issues. The main one is that you take yourself entirely too seriously.

Yes, I hire them. That's one of the things I do in the course of being a dealership consultant. It's just one of the aspects involved in creating business solutions for companies. Along with marketing, systems and policy implementation, budgets, payroll and so forth. I have worked with franchised dealerships, meaning companies that market and sell a particular manufacturer's product. So, no, I am not a used car salesman, nor do I consider it insulting to be one.

Thank you for trying to remind me of what I am, but it's not necessary. I already know and don't need anyone like you to contribute anything unsolicited. I have absolutely nothing to feel bad about.

Racism is the belief that race determines a person's abilities and capacities and that race is an indication of superiority or inferiority.

What you are describing is simple name-calling. I suggest you read a dictionary.

You say whites call blacks "n****r" like I do all the time. I'd like for you to show me where I have used that word to describe a black person. You seem to follow me around this site like some cyberstalking fatal attraction, pulling old posts to try and bolster your already flimsy and weak argument. So, unless you can find where I have called someone "n****r", you owe me an apology. 

If I believe someone to be ignorant or uneducated or trash, it has absolutely nothing to do with their skin color. I have enjoyed the friendship of people from many nationalities, religions and races.

The only criteria I have is a person's character. Is that clear enough for you?

You might also want to consider remedial geography or map reading, as Delaware is not two states away. The pictures shown in the Corvette blog were taken on the Ocean City Boardwalk. Delaware is approximately 30 minutes north, straight up on Coastal Highway, give or take depending on the traffic lights. And Delaware borders Maryland directly.

Yes, there was a foul stench emanating from the Perdue poultry processing plant in Salisbury. Is that insulting to you? There's also the water treatment plant along the Wicomico River that added to the bouquet. Is that an insult as well?

How about your suggesting that I have a nose big enough to smell across state lines? Hmm, that sounds like polite dinner conversation, now doesn't it?

Nazanin not so much "complexity"

But "problems" all around! The list is too long.

This is actually more like some people thinking superiority complex is a "good" thing!

Maybe Geico can use some of these scenarios in their cave men ads!

Trashy Wastes of Time

"In all your comments you always call people names and then say THEY are a waste of YOUR time and yet you keep writing away and WASTING your time!

Maybe it's a symptom of a superiority complex.

Kaveh lesson on racism

The point of "reminding" you that you are a used car salesman is not to call you "names" it is to simply remind you. Here you said it yourself:

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Allbeit you said you "hire" them. That's like saying Khamenei hired Ahmadinejad. Same ***t.

The point is you are the pot calling kettle black. Just look at your comments in this very thread. Words like "trash", "ignorant", "uneducated", "redneck", etc. rolls over your tongue.

This is YOU calling people "names" so you can put yourself in a higher place and feel better about yourself. This my friend is called RACISM! Whites called blacks the N word so they can feel better about themselves, like you do ALL the time.

You do this all the time. In that corvette blog you said it brought back memories of you going through route 50 and the stench of the poultry farms in Salisbury. Now I've been through the same route 50 and the same Salisbury in the dog days of summer and have never smelled any stench.

On the other hand going through HWY 5 North in California I've smelled the stench of cattle right next to the freeway for miles. That route 50 stench was you again trying to demean people in that part, which is Delaware by the way not Maryland. You must have a big nose smelling something 2 states away!

In all your comments you always call people names and then say THEY are a waste of YOUR time and yet you keep writing away and WASTING your time!

The best example is your nemesis John Carpenter. He is cool, calm and collective. You on the other hand are always bouncing off the walls like a kid OD'd on sugar!

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Republican displays of patriotism

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A few old ladies were beating up on two guys at a Palin rally. Joe the plumber is as shady as they come. He has lied about so much - including the fact that he is a licensed plumber. McCain's supporters can deny the evidence as "just some fringe people", but it's hard to see this stuff as isolated. The Obama protesters at these rallies are being called traitors and anti-American nuts. This party has embarrassed itself a lot since Sarah came on the scene. Who knew the only way to sink any lower than Dubya was to prop up a female Dubya?

skatermom

that was great...lol.  I want to see more of that...lol

IRANdokht

Campaign managers and strategists on both sides go this route. This is their idea of "grass-roots". I'm sure you've heard the expression that "all politics are local". This is a perfect example.

Neither candidate is going to erase the racist thoughts from the mind of a voter. They know that. So, they use it to their advantage as best they can. They're pandering to the voters using the oldest trick in the playbook. The element of fear. Either create fear out of thin air, or exaggerate a minor yet valid concern and turn it into something huge.

Why do they do it? Because it works. Both sides do it because there are people on both sides who fall for it.

This is about buying votes. It's one of the dirtiest parts of politics.

Kaveh

The racism has existed in this country since the first day the white man killed the native americans and it continued with the slavery of the africans and then the treatment of the irish, the japanese, the koreans... I am not arguing about when racism started or whether it still has roots in the lower levels of the society.

But what you are denying is the effect of those hate instilling speeches that we have seen in the past 30 days from the McCain campaign, especially from his VP candidate in the past 2-3 weeks.

Since the civil rights movements gradually people learned that even if they still felt it, it was not right to show racism because it shows how ignorant they are. The McCain campaign actually did bring the racism up to the surface, encouraged it  and allowed people to shout out racist slurs, not only to the African Americans but encouraged it towards the Arabs and muslim (who have been feared thanks to at least 8 years of heavy duty negative profiling) and fueled the fire in these rallies.

Now my question to you was: if it's such a small percentage, why would such campaign experts count on it so much? why would they allow it? why would they fuel the fire if it was insignificant?  why has it been the only thing they've done in the past 2-3 weeks?

IRANdokht

Kaveh

"A double standard exists. There can be no argument on this point."

That is if you are talking to yourself! which apparently you are. Unlike your friends in this video who "can't spell DVD" you CAN spell racism but that is about it!

Beyond that, "there can be no argument on this point"! Which "point"!

IRANdokht

The racism aimed at Senator Obama has existed long before Sarah Palin became news. And this racism exists from not only Republicans, but from people who traditionally vote Democrat as well. But we're not going to hear much about that, are we?

No, we are only going to hear it from one perspective, which is the persepective illustrated here in this video.

The fact is that this phenomenon exists where blacks are going to vote for Obama solely on the basis of his ethnicity, without having any real grasp of a single issue and his position on it. When it is perpetrated by whites as seen in this video, it's instantly considered racism. However, when you see the same thing carried out by blacks, who typically vote Democrat, no one dares to call it racism, when it clearly is. 

A double standard exists. There can be no argument on this point.

Regardless of the candidate, regardless of the party or the ideology, it's ignorant and it's wrong.

Let's see a similar reporter going into the inner city and conducting these types of interviews and asking the same questions. It won't happen, because it's not PC, and there's no way the liberals in the media will air such material, because then they will have to answer for it. And it can't be justified, just like these rednecks can't justify anything they're saying here on this video.

After Moose-a-lini talked to Rush Stinkbomb on the radio

Rush of course couldn't stop gushing about Palin. One of his points was "Folks. They just caught her down there at a Wal-Mart buying diapers. How much more real can you get?"

Suddenly Ayatollah Sarah is a stronger candidate because she's buys diapers for her infant, and she's not afraid to do it in public! Whereas, I guess Michelle Obama bought went to Tiffany & Co for diapers? Issues, please. Issues! The Republican party has turned into a caricature.

Kaveh

If the percentage was as small as you are making it to be, then Palin's speeches and attempts to rallying up the crowd and inserting fear of a "black muslim terrorist" in them would be a failed campaign policy.

Now why would the expert Republican campaign managers who won GWB his race in 2004, be so stupid as to concentrate on the small minority of racist republicans?

does that make sense to you?

IRANdokht