The many lies of John McCain.

The many lies of John McCain.
by Q
22-Jul-2008
 

For anybody who still doesn't realize that the "straight talk express" made a wrong turn and ended up at the bottom of the Grand Canyon with a huge explosion, watch this.

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Iranian Regime Praises

by asdf (not verified) on

Iranian Regime Praises Obama's National Security Advisor The Iranian regime continues to be impressed with Barack Obama's top foreign policy advisor, Zbigniew Brezezinski.

THIS was the guy who helped negotiate the arms treaties that helped PROP UP the dying Soviet Union and prolonged the enslavement of a billion people??

this guy served in an administration (carter et al) that created Mugabe, and Khomeni, legitimized Jihadi nation states, created stagflation, double-digit unemployment figures, inflation rates, and interest rates? Is this country dumb enough to want to see that again? This time Carbomba won't get our embassy taken hostage, he'll get millions killed in the flash of a nuclear blast.
//www.farsnews.com/English/newstext.php?nn=87...


jamshid

Majid

by jamshid on

LOL Majid! haven't heard this one!

I bet your joke will apply to many IRI supporters when the IRI falls. You will see!


Majid

جمشید خدا خفه

Majid


جمشید خدا خفه ت کنه، خیلی‌ با حال بود و منو یاد این جوک انداخت.

یک مسابقه بود بین ماموران سیا، موساد،کا گ ب و ساواما که ببیننند کدوم کار آمد تر هستند.

برای هر کدام یک خرگوش ول کردند تو جنگل و گفتند هر کس زودتر خرگوش رو بگیره برنده است.

مامور موساد ۱، سیا ۱.۵ و کا گ ب ۳ روز طول کشید برگردند. مامور ساواما ۲ هفته دیر تر اومد .....با یک خرس!!!

گفتند این چیه آوردی ؟ خرگوش چی‌ شد ؟؟؟

خرسه به زبون اومد گریه کنان گفت : آقا به حضرت عباس ما خرگوشیم، گول خورده بودیم تا حالا، قول میدیم خرگوش بمونیم

 


jamshid

Q

by jamshid on

Q's logic:

If you walk like a duck, eat like a duck, swim like a duck, even quack like a duck, ... then you must be an elephant, not a duck!

Sure Q... sure. You are not an IRI supporter, and presient Bush is a 5 times praying moslem...

 


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campaign of chaos

by Mensa (not verified) on

Sometimes things are so clear that trying to argue or decipher the intent of the message or messenger becomes meaningless, wasteful, and in the long term annoying...

Q and the other messengers of this regime either hide behind the curtains of nationalism in order to prolong the life of the hand that feeds them or try to bully others by personal attacks, while never answering charges and diverting form the real issues at hand....I will not play like Q...so from this point on I will not refer to him any longer.

What is truly encouraging and a cause for celebration is that a few years ago...articles such as this would entice this sense of blind nationalism and immature reaction from many of our countrymen without a notice to the true intent behind the article or blog.....Today I see more and more people seeing what these writings are at their core and no longer fall for the smoke screen....that makes me happy when I read from so many of you who tell these IRI supporters... "khar Khodeti"


Q

Craig, it's OK

by Q on

There are some levels of prejudice you can't escape from. Maybe someday you'll be enlightened enough not to throw monkey feces, proabably about the same time you may understand that just because somebody with a foreign name is more articulate and more of an effective communicator it doesn't mean they are a threat to you.


samsam1111

Programmer Craig,s apology reminds me of yet another

by samsam1111 on

Triumph of the type of mind set representing all free thinkers who are not victim to any "Ism" or rigid ideology and admit at once to their wrongs  & apologize when needed, because they don,t defend idiocy but common sense. Some thing I haven,t seen from some of our more ideologicaly inclined blogger pals. I did c++, Open Gl game programing for windows platform as a hobby for a while..May be programing does actualy expand your common sense :)..Because you need structure & logic & can,t open a window with just 1 line of code.

#include <windows.h>

Also the Critics need some credit too for their civil aproach and refusal to crucify him.

Cheers!


programmer craig

blah blah blah

by programmer craig on

Q, I'm sure I am not the only one who has noticed how much time you spend defending the IRI, while at the same time calling everyone else a "zionist" or a "neocon". You not only have all the talking points down, you are probably the guy who wrote them in the first place. I get to point it out, because I'm not Iranian and I have nothing to lose. But don't think I am the only one who has noticed it, buddy.


Q

Craig, have you ever heard of "throwing monkey feces?"

by Q on

It's ironic if you haven't becasue you are a master at it.

Q most assuredly does.
I most assuredly don't.

I'm not going to debate my own beliefs with someone who thinks they have ESP.

I believe what causes confusion frequently among people who throw monkey feces when they have nothing else to say, is that I don't support overthrowing the Iranian government by anyone except possibly Iranians inside Iran without any foreign influence.

That's what has you confused Craig. It's like me calling you a McCain supporter because you simply never talk about killing the man!

"If you don't support the War, like you claim, why don't you spend all your time attackng McCain and not talk about anything else?"
<- See how stupid and illogical this is?

That's how hystrical people think and that's the root of the (very frequent) accusations on this site. That's also why, I really don't want to encourage this illogical mob mentality by bothering to deny every accusation under the sun.

Suffice to say, if I didn't explicitly state something about my beliefs, you can't assume it's true. You would think grown men would understand as much.


programmer craig

OK OK!

by programmer craig on

Apologies to both IRANdokht and Mola. I suppose I was really replying to Q and just picking snippets out of the comments! No way i will apologize for calling Q an IRI supporter though!


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PC

by American Wife (not verified) on

but don't you see... your comment was a direct response to IRANdokht's IQ comment.  don't you see how offensive this would be to her... or anyone else who's making a....hmmm... less than enthusiastic comment on McCain?  dude... haven't you noticed?  sense of humor runs pretty thin here... even when it IS funny.

I want to fuss at you for your comment about having fun with Iranians here who..... blah blah blah... (I'm too lazy to type it all out).  why can't they?  freedom of speech.... remember?  if they are American citizens with the same rights as you and me... why not?  I thought that was what it was all about.  why does criticizing US politics have to bring a comparison to the Iranian regime. 

i've read some of your comments... i might not always agree with you but you seem to be pretty rational and fair.  be fair now...:-)

ok... now for the biggie... Q... are you really an IRI supporter?  Enquiring minds want to know.  I don't think I've seen anyone actually come out and admit it before...lol


IRANdokht

PC

by IRANdokht on

I can't speak for anyone else here, but I have lived as an adult in USA for a longer period of time than I did in Iran. I know more about the US government and the American politicians than I do of Iran, especially since the IRI government is so intertwined and multi-leveled, I am not even sure how they pick some of their officials (khobregan).

I voted in Iran once, then I left my country and became a US resident. Then I waited years to qualify to take a test and had an interview in order to be accepted and sworn in as an American. I was not born here, I worked for this citizenship!

Now when I make comments about the US politicians or criticize the policies, it really is unfair for someone to laugh about my opinions and make fun of me just because they had the birth privilege of being a US citizen.

As far as I know , in the upcoming election, I have one vote, and so do you!

Best

IRANdokht


programmer craig

AW

by programmer craig on

Twice now you've made a comment here about supporting IRI... who do you actually think does?

Q most assuredly does. Don't know about Mola.

I'm just ahving a little fun with the way Iranians here are enjoying criticizing American politicians for minor transgressions, when the politicans in Iran are guilty of such eggregious crimes.

I know IRANdokht doesn't.  I sure don't... my husband doesn't... I
hope you don't think there's a correlation between supporting McCain or
even Obama for that matter... and supporting the IRI. 

Of course I know that. I have a couple (Iranian) friends who are regulars on this site. You won't catch me accusing them of being IRI supporters, regardless of what they think of American politicians!

But you can't deny, there are a fairly large number of IRI supporters on this website, right? I mean, people like Q don't even try to hide it. Or if they do try to hide it, they do a pretty piss-poor job!

(but seriously, you're not voting for McCain are you...:-)

Well, I don't want to. But my other choice is Obama, so what am I supposed to do? I've never liked McCain. I've had problems with him going all the way back to the 1980s. I'd be happy to jump on the bandwagon and add all my complaints aboutMcCain here, but none of them have anything to do with Iran (or Iraq for that matter) so it wouldn't be very productive, right? :)

And just so you know, my problems with Obama have nothing to do with Iran or Iraq either. I'm comfortable with Obama's statements about foreign policy. In fact, I like his position re: Iraq and Afghanistan better than McCain's.


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PC

by American Wife (not verified) on

Twice now you've made a comment here about supporting IRI... who do you actually think does?  I know IRANdokht doesn't.  I sure don't... my husband doesn't... I hope you don't think there's a correlation between supporting McCain or even Obama for that matter... and supporting the IRI.  One has nothing to do with the other.  We're all about the same thing here... the fact that we have the option and the right to vote for whomever we wish. 

(but seriously, you're not voting for McCain are you...:-)


Majid

1984

by Majid on

In the book 1984, there's a very famous sentence which reads:

(Future predictions by Soviet Union leaders never fail, the party just change,modify, match, OR up grade their previous satetments) !!!!!!!

I just LOVE this internet and youtube and mobile camera thing............LOL

As soon as it leaves your mouth, it's out of your control, you politicians and spritual leaders and presidents!

THINK! before you even open that pie hole! 


programmer craig

Mola Nasredeen

by programmer craig on

And I suppose the Islamic Republic is progressive?

Sorry I'm getting so much enjoyment from watching IRI supporters throw stones at American politicians! Yes, so dishonest! So conservative! lol.

 


Mola Nasredeen

McCain is a dinosaur. I don't mean his age but his politics

by Mola Nasredeen on

We know what happened to dinosaurs.


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McCain's agenda for

by American Wife (not verified) on

McCain's agenda for America tomorrow (and Bush and Cheney for the last 8 years) has nothing to do with what American's want...

And I'm not entirely sure that his military record speaks as a positive one either.

Trust his word?  Sorry, for a moment I thought you said "trust his word".


Q

LOL! I think I touched a serious nerve with at least a couple

by Q on

of people.

Interesting for something that is supposedly a useless video containing nothing new and no inconsistency, people still feel the need to do "damage control" on it.

Yes, McCain isn't actually inconsistent. He is a lying warmonger just like Bush, onboard the war wagon from day 1.

In this video he repeats all the lies of the Bush administration: Saddam is a threat, he had WMD, we can finish in a short time, we'll be greeted as liberators, etc... all of it!

He just says he was the War's "biggest critic" to make it seem like he's not McSame.

But he is.

Parthian: I like your generic answer of "all politicians lie", so that must make it OK to pick someone like Bush who has nearly destroyed 2 countries and wants to do the same to Iran. Maybe all politician's lie. But this one is exposed early.

You have to love Parthian's idea of democracy:
He is saying upfront, he does not give a rat's ass about the polls, or what people think.

I love it! 4 more wars!


programmer craig

voting for him can only be

by programmer craig on

voting for him can only be a side-effect of low IQ

Yes? And supporting the IRI is a side effect of what? High IQ? lol.


Parthian

Wow....Q has found the fountain of youth...

by Parthian on

Q, no kiddin, I am overwhelmed by your most significant discovery! A politician that lies...man that is so rare, he should be considered an endangered species.

I am not a McCain fan, I will probably not vote for him, or Obama. But, these sort of attacks are very much consistent with Q's other magnificent writings. Anything that threatens the IR's existence is attacked by Q. This sort of attack is purely ideological, and meant to advance Q's propaganda. You can find all kinds of inconsistencies with Obama, and just about any politician.

As a matter of fact, the biggest dishonest politician was probably Q's hero, Grand donkey mullah Chosmeini who promised free electricity to all those "poor" Iranians. At least McCain is not a man of cloth, and to some extent, he is being honet. He is saying upfront, he does not give a rat's ass about the polls, or what people think. Good for him! That is exactly the kind of leader I want in the Oval office. This is a representative republic, once chosen, I want a leader who is not going to be looking at the polls all day, i.e. Bill Clinton. Unfortunately, I disagree with many of McCain's positions.

 


Parthian

Wow....Q has found the fountain of youth...

by Parthian on

Q, no kiddin, I am overwhelmed by your most significant discovery! A politician that lies...man that is so rare, he should be considered an endangered species.

I am not a McCain fan, I will probably not vote for him, or Obama. But, these sort of attacks are very much consistent with Q's other magnificent writings. Anything that threatens the IR's existence is attacked by Q. This sort of attack is purely ideological, and meant to advance Q's propaganda. You can find all kinds of inconsistencies with Obama, and just about any politician.

As a matter of fact, the biggest dishonest politician was probably Q's hero, Grand donkey mullah Chosmeini who promised free electricity to all those "poor" Iranians. At least McCain is not a man of cloth, and to some extent, he is being honet. He is saying upfront, he does not give a rat's ass about the polls, or what people think. Good for him! That is exactly the kind of leader I want in the Oval office. This is a representative republic, once chosen, I want a leader who is not going to be looking at the polls all day, i.e. Bill Clinton. Unfortunately, I disagree with many of McCain's positions.

 


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How about Many Lies of John Kerry?

by Free Thinker (not verified) on

Those of you who voted for JK four years ago must have been "the side effects of low IQ - as Irandokht, one of the voters for sure, would agree).

The difference between JK and JMC is that the latter didn't lie about his tour of duty in Vietnam.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXwCrpMHkYc


farokh2000

You don't have to.....

by farokh2000 on

You don't have to see more evidence of this man's total ignorance.

He has proven himslef to be the total copy of GW.

He claims to have more experience on foreign Policy, why?

Because he was shut down by Vietnamese and was jailed for his crimes against humanity?. Does that bring you Political credit?

He also thinks there is a border between Iraq and Pakistan. How he came up with that is a good question. This shows how much he knows about the places that US is bombing and the people they are murdering. At least you could learn a little Geography before you speak. Is that too much to ask?

One would have to seriously question the sanity of anyone who would even consider voting for him to be the leader of anything.


Abarmard

lol

by Abarmard on

John McCain doesn't lie, he just has no memory or recollection. When I look at him I wonder how is he going to go through four years of stress. The guy doesn't look too healthy or in shape.


samsam1111

Yes He may be old,,Yes He may not be slave to populism

by samsam1111 on

,platitude, rethoric, elitism...but atleast He says what,s on his mind before checking with socio political analyst team to see how many votes can his speech buy..You can trust his word on issues such as peace more than some one who picks his battles selectively to cozzy up to different audience at different times like Mr Obama.Obama,s Iraq policy and his learning process on reality through trial & error is a sign of a rethorical figure & it,s dangerous for USA & even Iran..He is an unpredictable opportunist candidate in a popularity contest .

Obama is a Holywood production of infatuated media & some of the all mighty multinational conglometer capitalists who plan to re invent America superficialy into a friendlier image to their clientel in the muslim,3rd world,..etc . He is being portrayed as the black JFK ..but history repeats itself in a comical way. He is not an Agent of change but an agent for change of opinion polls to sell more multinational conglometers goods to the infatuated global clientel!..and just like any actor He is not allowed to pass boudaries on certain issues..He has to follow the script.for these multinational capitalist ..the interest of corporation supercedes the interest of americans or any other nationality.

Goats follow! 


Ali P.

Mmmm...

by Ali P. on

I don't see how this video could change anyone's mind about McCain.

If you like him, you still like him.

If you don't like him, you still don't like him.

In all fairness, I didn't see anything inconsistant in this video either.

 

Ali P.


Zion

On stones and glass houses

by Zion on

I do not see much inconsistency in this video. He has always supported the major decisions in the war on terror including the removal of Saddam and he was right about the war itself being won fast and easy. The management of Iraq after the war is something different than the war itself. Nevertheless politicians do change their opinions sometimes given the circumstances. Such a video proves really nothing. At least he has a record of service that speaks for him and he has been consistent and honest on all major issues. Unlike some:
//www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary...

You know, those living in glass houses... .


IRANdokht

straight talk express???

by IRANdokht on

all the flip flopping and lies aside, this guy bluntly says he doesn't care what people want and think!

voting for him can only be a side-effect of low IQ

Thank you for posting this, and I thought I knew enough about him already...

IRANdokht