Why I Continue to Engage KS in Dialogue

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Rosie T.
by Rosie T.
20-Jan-2008
 

Why I do it. In his own recently posted words. Please read to the end...

KS...Killer Shark/KiaroStami....King Solomon/Kaposi's Sarcoma..

"I am here, because I am you, your neighbor, your shame, your fear, your hate, your past, your present, your future, I am your mirror, I am the friend you once had, I am the person you betrayed, I am the person you stoned to death, I am the first stone cast, I am the child that hung until the red left his lips, I am the mother who had to claim the body of her child, I am the father that could never wash his son’s body, I am the cold winds that ran up your back when you sense injustice, I am the emotion that makes you stare with fright and intrigue at a person as his life leaves his body, I am everything you do not want to be, I am a Muslim, a Jew, a Mazdaki, a Christian, a Sufi, a Bahai, I am hate, I am love, I am anger, I am sorrow, I am hope, I am your denial, I am your efforts to distance yourself from Islam, I am your excuses, I am your broken grave stones, I am your unmarked graves, I am tears, I am the desire to send steel rain to the IRI, I am your vengeance, I am your desire for a pound of flesh, I am your desire to distinguish yourself from Arabs, I am your contradictions, I am unfair, I am your humanity on a cusp, I am your irrational desires, I am your divorces, I am your failed efforts at love abroad, I am your failed attempted to fit-in, I am your changed names so it can be pronounced, I am your efforts to include your non-Iranians friends in the conversation, I am thousands of souls that never came back from the War – I am you! "

I am your laughter as the warm waters of the Caspian crashes against your feet leaving a million water nymphs squirming under and over your feet, I am your request and desire to stop and get warm, fresh kolocheh as you arrive in Mazandaran, I am the pain that brings a smile to your face as you walk over sharp seashells trying to reach the water, I am the purple skies over Perspolis, I am the wait for the order of jegar with salt bought at the street vendor [jegaree], I am the pieces of seeds[tokhmeh] spat from the upper balcony over the heads of the audience sitting in looj, I am the barley soup with a piece of bread being eaten on a cool winter day after the movies at Cinema Takhteh Jamsheed, I am the laughter of kids at a school playground at zangeh tafreh, I am the inner urge to “gher” when you hear bab-karam, I am the anticipation for porshikee, I am that bastanee ghefee, I am that fires coming from the tumble weed at Chahar shanbe souree, I am the crisp new bills you got for nourouz, I am the nouneh khameayee sold near Majlis, I am your how you feel when you mother asks what you want her to make you for dinner, I am the deep snow in Hamedan, the dates on the ground on the streets of Bam, I am the round faloudeh Kerman, I am the best ash you had in Tabriz, I am the summers in Astara, I am the mountains of Alborz and Zagroos, I am the hot, hot summer muggy nights of Abadan, I am the korsee at your grandma’s house in the dead of winter, I am the first gojeh of the season, I am the night skies over the Kavir, I am you!

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If you have any further questions please ask yourself first before you ask me. Thank you.

Rosie/Robin/Roxane/Roushan

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Kouroush Sassanian

Ano goheshon ghatee shodeh

by Kouroush Sassanian on Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:27 AM PST

Wow, this is better than "rouzhaee zendegee."


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Nadias

I thought Hitler ordered.......

by Nadias on Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:56 AM PST

to have books burned. An his interest in art was the value of the art to the world.

When did we ever say we were supporting KS's bashing. He knows exactly how we feel  about his comments and behavior. We have been discussing it with him through out the website.

However, some of us can see things more objectively. Some of us think there is still hope for the man.

solh va doosti

Nadia


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XerXes

by watchingyou (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:31 AM PST

You should talk! I have read your posts and you are nothing short of having a mentality of an Islamic killer. I am sure you will be caught and sent to be with your buddies at GITMO!


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A reminder

by XerXes (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:21 AM PST

Hitler was a great lover of arts and poetry. KS might write or whatever else you like to say in order to make yourself feel better for supporting an idiot. That doesn't justify wrong and fascist mentality of KS.


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Nadias

We must learn........

by Nadias on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:57 AM PST

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

             -Martin Luther King, Jr.


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iranians

by Mehr512 (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:49 AM PST

rosie understand iranians hate to see one of them do good or see that he is liked by anyone. they want cut others, that's all. we see these iranians all the time , no big deal I use no bad words like ks uses but everybody is different. I like what he writes here.


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Rosie Jan

by Jamhid=A (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:22 AM PST

I believe that this guy "Kafka" is K.S. himself
I also believe that everything they say about him growing up among the Jewish people is also correct until he comes out and either deny it, or give a full explanation
We are not fooled by him


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Nadias

I'm not sure that

by Nadias on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:23 AM PST

I understand why KS liking Jews is wrong. I do understand why being  proZionist causes would be offensive to some.

Rosie T. is right in one thing, KS can write excellent poetry when he wants to. It is the only reason, I  still read some of his posted comments.

solh va doosti

Nadia


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Rosie, I worry about you.

by barb wire (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:19 AM PST

Rosie, I worry about you. Based on your own writing, and your poetic temperment, you appear like someone who might be taken advantage of. You seem to get wholeheartedly concerned about people, whose real intentions you do not know. People have many faces, just be cautious. Cheers.


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Rosie T.

Anon 5,

by Rosie T. on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:08 AM PST

I thouroughly agree with you. Any polemicist, especially such a strident and ubiquitous one, has an obligation to divulge his background.

I engage in dialogue with him because I like his poeic insightsy, because I've seen some improvement, and because like he says, he's the mirror of the open wound.  I'm not defending him. I think people who find his offensiveness intolerable should just ignore him.


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Rosie T.

by Anonymous:5 (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:01 AM PST

Throughout this site, KS not only constantly criticizes Islam and IRI, but he is also highly supportive of Jewish and Zionist causes.
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If he is a Zartoshti, it is understandable that he could hate Islam.
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But he hasn't come clean with us regarding his affiliations with the Jewish people. Even this fellow Kafka, whether he is KS himself or not, hasn't said a word about it.
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I am not trying to sound Anti-Semitic. But people have the right to know KS's affiliations with theJewish people, both now and when he was growing up.
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Period ...


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Nadias

Anonymous3

by Nadias on Mon Jan 21, 2008 08:44 AM PST

The majority of the people on the web site do not have an issue with KS not being for Islam or Muslims. People can criticize it all they want. What they are against is his foul language and attacking people.

Actually, some on the website tried to help him out but they only got attacked by him. So, now they just leave him be.

I'm one of the people taking a break from KS at the moment. I got tired of him insulting and marginalizing me because I don't agree with him on a lot of issues. We were not even discussing Islam or Muslims.

solh va doosti

Nadia


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Kafka; A Question for You

by Nader.na-03 (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 08:40 AM PST

Are you K.S.?

I must say that I do find great similarities in the manner of your writing and his-

Just thought of sharing this with you


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So, let me get this

by Anonymous3 (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 08:26 AM PST

So, let me get this straight: KS's crime is that he doesn't subscribe to Islam and criticize it and therefore, he needs psychological help????? Did I miss something???


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Nadias

I can testify that there are

by Nadias on Mon Jan 21, 2008 02:45 AM PST

several on this website that use multiple nonverified accounts. I actually have someone following me around the website that prides himself in letting me know it is him, with a new identity. In my case, he just wanted to be friends and things have been worked out. Once, he is ready, he will get a registered account.

Having multiple accounts/identities or not does not make a person guilty of anything. Many who have multiple identities do it for varying reasons.

solh va doosti

Nadia


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Kafka

by mahnazSAFARPOUR (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 01:28 AM PST

.Tks for sharing this information
.However, there is something that is not clear to me
.Throughout the site, there are references to the fact that he was raised among The Jewish people
.He has not come out and deny that
.Could you please share any information that you may have in that regard
.Appreciate it


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About KS

by Kafka (not verified) on Mon Jan 21, 2008 01:13 AM PST

Mr. KS, a dear friend of mine, also posts on the News Group "soc.culture.iranian" as SirKnight67. His first name is Ardalan. He is a single man (never married) in his early fifties. He's from the Mazandaran province and is very proud of his light complexion (because he abhors Arabs!) He is highly intelligent and knowledgeable about the History of Iran. He has a Heart of Gold, but often gets into fights in the real world as well as in the CyberSpace. He became a Zoroastrian because he despises Arabs, MUslims and Islam. He has two problems: Anger and hatred, and he knows it (not as problems, but as his personality traits.) He channels his anger and hatred, which come from his early childhood, toward Islam and Muslims. His friends have made interventions and told him that he needs a long-term therapy/conseling in order to solve his issues. But he is adamant that he does not have any psychological issue.

He is a grown man and we should leave him alone. We are neither therapists nor saviors / missionaries. It is utterly condescending to want to help someone (who is not in a life-and-death situation) when they have not asked for it and don't believe that they need help. Often people who have the intense urge and obsession to rescue others are in the need of psychological help themselves.


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Rosie T.

Doctor...

by Rosie T. on Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:32 PM PST

why do people worry about me? He's not going to HURT me. I don't undertand it. And you don't think this is beautiful..he's the broken shells under your feet on the shores of the Caspian...your broken gravestones...well yes in my eyes..I've beheld..it's beautiful...but thanks for your concern. As always.


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Rosie Jan - Again

by Psychologist (not verified) on Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:23 PM PST

I am not trying to insult your intelligence.

Beauty, as I am sure you know, is in the eyes of the "Beholder".

In "Farsi", there is a saying: "Ta Nabashad Chizaki, Mardom Nagooyand Chiz Ha".

This literally means that unless there is "something" there that People wouldn't be talking about it "all the time".

The American version of it is this: "Where there is smoke, there is Fire".

Again, my hopes are that you would make the right decisions :) Pure and Simple!!


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Rosie T.

Dear Dr. Phil,

by Rosie T. on Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:08 PM PST

I'm not an apologist for anyone ever. I have other faults but not that one.  I have CONSTANTLY challenged him on his views on Islam. Tirelessly.  Incessantly.  Anyone who thinks otherwise didn't bother to read the whole thread, whichever thread.

Of course I know he's troubled.  He's deeply troubled. THAT'S WHAT HE'S TELLING YOU IN THESE PARAGRAPHS....sigh....did you notice "I am a Muslim" along with the other religions, even the Mazdakis...sigh...again...

Finally can we put the multiple identities to bed? First of all I have always sthought he's too outspoken to have to bother with them, but not ruling it out, do you think he STILL uses them?  And if so, how many OTHERS use them?  For example, do you always call yourself Sigmund Freud or do you have other identities. I'm sure you never attack anyone, but HOW MANY PEOPLE DO USING MULTIPLE IDENTITIES?  See?

Can I make myself clear? I engage him because...the above piece of writing is...unremittinglly beautiful....see?


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Rosie Jan - A Note of "Caution"

by Psychologist (not verified) on Sun Jan 20, 2008 09:57 PM PST

He is a very troubled soul. I have read much of what is said about him at this site.

If the following stuff that we read him about him is true:

(1) He is a Zartoshti, and (2) that when he gew up, he had a close relationship with the Jewish Community, then these are not typical experiences that Iranians have.

Also, if he is using other Identities and User Names to attack other people, well, that is not a typical reaction that Other Iranians have.

I want to caution you on one thing: Please Do Not act as an "Enabler" to him.

It is one thing to try and reach out to him, as I saw many people do in his first "Nasty" Blog, it is something quite different to give him an "Impression" that you are acting as an "Apologist" for him.

Please be very careful on how you walk this path :) For your own Good!!


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