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sadegh: Do you advocate the use of totalitarianism to further Communist/socialist goals?

marg bar iri, i did not

marg bar iri,

i did not point to you in particular...like i said hrw and amnesty record and document iran's many human rights violations...palestinians' suffering doesn't negate iranians...the converse sentiment is an immature and inhumane argument i am simply tired of hearing...many of the people (most anonymous cowards) have frankly worn down my patience with their non-stop barrage of insults...like i said one can only take so much...don't worry hopefully no more posts from me for a while, you've won, congratulations...it's pointless breaking one's skull against a brick wall...and as I have said on my own site I have never minced words over the iri's tyranny and disdain for human rights...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

When they become civil,you

When they become civil,you can rest assured that the people on this site will be civil as well. 

Ok I understand, 'become a barbarian because the mullahs are barbarians'?

I have never insulted or ever been rude to a single individual on this site before being slandered...

'islamist', 'anti-semite', 'traitor', 'iri agent' etc...etc...silly me, I ought to sit down, write what you tell me and then accept your bilious insults with a smile! why thank you...

Thanks IranDokht jan...but I think this is it for me...at least for a while... 

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Israel is a disgrace to humanity

One day American people will wake up to the abuse done to them by the zionist jews and Israel. On that day American people's reaction to this blood sucker of a country will be very harsh and unforgiving. That day will come regardless of all the crimes Israel is commiting against Palestinians, Iranians, Arabs and muslims of the world.

So now we are dogs and Maniacs

Sadegh,

You are free to write whatever you want aziz. I am not trying to be a bully. I am allowed to ask questions and counter your views.

Sadegh, I ask again: can you go to the IRI, give the Iranian population cameras to record what is happening to the Iranians on a daily basis? Can you form human right groups to petition the IRI government on its abuse of the general population, treatment of minorities, lack of due process, lack of free press, lack of accounting and freely operate in the IRI like the Israeli left does? If the Answer is no, The Israelis are much better than us. Please prove to me that the answer is yes with "statistics", "opinion polls", "arguments and comparisons of fact". Please compare how many Israelis or Arabs were executed for sexual crimes, drug crimes, crimes against the Zionist regime, for crimes against Judaism, for crimes of writing internet blogs against Zionism. Please compare these stats to the IRI stats.

Didn't I say you were smart? Why are you calling us dogs, maniacs, moronos......for asking you these questions?

I still believe that you are using this site to change the subject and that is why you have not answered a single question. You became upset at how loud the level of "we don't care about the Palestinians" was.

Talebi...there are no

Talebi...there are no arguments...they just play the same broken record...I have been insulted so many times by the thugs who roam these pages and one can only take so much...I have also debated many PLEASANT AND COURTEOUS individuals on this site who disagree with me...therefore you really couldn't be more wrong...

if you want to go and catalogue the human rights violations of the IRI so much do it yourself...I know the IRI violates human rights, I get the HRW reports regularly!!!

as someone has already said there are pages of articles dealing with the crimes of the IRI, WHY ARE YOU SO INTENT ON DICTATING WHAT OTHERS WRITE??? there is no argument here...all is being said is that "YOU OUGHT TO WRITE WHAT WE TELL YOU TO WRITE"...please point to the argument??? How is this about the post? This is merely about POLICING THE CONTENT OF THIS SITE, WHICH THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE NO RIGHT, I REPEAT, NO RIGHT TO DO. 

Seriously, this stems from a lack of tolerance, hostility to pluralism and the expression of other points of view...I have to say, if you think labelling someone an 'islamist', 'iri agent' etc...is an argument then you have far more in common than the iri then you think...just substitute 'israeli' or 'american agent' and you have the exact tactics shamefully employed by the iri... 

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Sadegh jan

I hope you don't get discouraged! You're one of the valuable political contributors on this site and everything you write is worth reading.

It's frustrating and I can see it's getting to you. I just hope you decide not to get into the games and just stick to the issues. It'll be safer and easier on you too.

breathe in breathe out ;-)

IRANdokht

Thanks Mehdi,

Thanks Mehdi, appreciated...it's just gets very old very quickly how nearly all the slanderers, detractors and bullies on this site manage to misunderstand virtually everything...I really have a lot to do and just can't explain the most basic of arguments to these people who aren't interested in anything but the confirmation of their own views and opinions in the first place...it's just a giant waste of time...thanks however...maybe we can stay in touch...drop me an email any time...tomorrow is another day...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Sadegh you are a cry baby!

You have the freedom to write about whatever you want. However, you need to realize that others have the freedom to criticize you. I just to track your writings and here is a sampler within the last 60 days:

//iranian.com/main/blog/sadegh/christian-...

//iranian.com/main/blog/sadegh/mahmoud-da...

//iranian.com/main/blog/sadegh/mofaz-hun-...

//iranian.com/main/blog/sadegh/wither-dre...

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What do you exactly expect? For people to appreciate your pro Palestinian views when the Palestinians supported Sadam or when Arafat supported Khomein in the initial months of the revolution and fought along side the Iraqis against Iranians a few months later?. We are Iranian and the IRI regime has destroyed our lives, the lives of our mothers, fathers, uncles, cousins.....You come on this site and write about Orientalism, Zionism, American Imperialism and you expect to get a free ride without any critisim?

You call people Orielly, Vatanforosh......

Then you say:

"I used to think we were a civil people, but we are not, that illusion has long been shattered."

Are the Mollah's Civil? When they become civil,you can rest assured that the people on this site will be civil as well. 

"with these wolves there is no argument, no dialogue, no back and forth, no comparison of facts, statistics and opinion polls"

There have been arguments here but you do not like them because it was not the dialogue you were looking for.  Now you call people "morons", "wolves", "brain dead"..... Why?  A few people have given you many arguments about human rights in the IRI. You never bothered answering. Someone asked, can you start your own Human Rights group in the IRI to go and use your time and energy to fight for Iranian Human Rights in the IRI. What was your answer? What was your statistic? What was your comparison?  They asked if you can give video cameras to the Iranians so they can record the daily abuses and human right violations in the IRI. Why didn't you enter into a dialouge or even attempt to answer. They were "dogs" & "Maniacs". You turned them to animals and subhuman creatures. 

You criticize the IRI? Yeh, Just Like Q.  Stop crying and start reading what others are saying instead of calling them maniacs. 

keep it up!

I love your posts, man.  Keep them up and forget about these idiots who haven't been back to Iran for decades.  These guys don't care about Iranian independence or the welfare of Iranian people.  They somehow think that America or Israel are going to sweep the IRI aside and gracefully place a new regime in place.  (just like they did in Iraq). 

Most probably this is what is going to happen to Iran if the US or Israel invades :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLlzYBxUXCM

Dear Q, I get it - I was

Dear Q, I get it - I was just totally naive as you rightly point out in thinking that I could deviate from the PARTY LINE, and not get shouted down in a barrage of insults and slander...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Uncultured who?

Sadegh you say:

"...(though let me state categorically that I spurn the Aryanist racialist rubbish bandied about by yek mosht bisavaad)!!!"

Once someone said, "A person who has read a lot of books, but can't dig sh.., is like a camel with a heavy load of books on its back; the poor animal feels the pain of the weight, but it doesn't realize
what he is carrying."

It seems that any cultist would claim that others who oppose his cult are "uncultured" and "illiterate," especially, when one's interests are at stake.

How did you come up with this term, "uncultured?" I thought it was used by the people of high society, enjoying high standards of living, when referring to the poor.

Some so-called, "intellectuals" in Iran, by the way, decided that no one was "uncultured" and used,"Badfarhang" instead of "Bifarhang" when they referred to people of lower income. Another one of those cliches spouted by some "intellectuals" and repeated by the newly-rich Iranians.

Just a little before and a short while after the revolution those same people came to be known as, "Mostaz'afin." I left a long time ago, so I don't know what the poor masses in Iran are called anymore. Any idea?

Sadegh, what you don't seem to understand is the following

Sadegh, I think I see the problem here.

You are under the mistaken impression that YOU have the freedom to talk about whatever issue you want on this site. That's patent nonsense.

The esteemed, unnamed secret members of the "Majlese Khobregane Iranian.com" whom you see attacking you here, have not approved your request. Therefore, as an Iranian, you must only criticize IRI, that's the only "javaz" you currently have. Anything else and you are a traitor, especially if it's against Israel. What's it to you if there are people suffering in all sorts of places by the same people who are threatening Iranians? Don't you know that these so-called suffering Palestinians are
1) Only miserable because they are too stupid to settle for peace.
2) The only reason there is no peace is because of Islamic ideology coming from Iran.
3) Israel is against IRI, therefore Israel is good. So talking against Israel means you are with IRI.

Don't you get it? Don't you understand what the subject of this site "should be" as Margbar IRI has decreed? This holy mob has a higher agenda. It's simple: first do what they want, and then maybe you can talk about what you want. First overthrow the IRI, and then you can talk about suffering. Don't ruin the party. There is a drum here with the right message for you. Bang on it and don't ask questions.

Yes we are all IRI

Yes we are all IRI supporters...we receive our monthly checks from Khamanei gladly...thanks for sharing...I used to think we were a civil people, but we are not, that illusion has long been shattered...all I receive on this site is slander and abuse and I'm sick of it to be honest and that is why I now snap back...I've had enough of the brain-dead morons on Iranian.com who surf the blogosphere merely to attack someone - with these wolves there is no argument, no dialogue, no back and forth, no comparison of facts, statistics and opinion polls - all this element can say is "oh go back to your master Khamanei", "he's an agent of the IRI", "you're an Islamo-fascist" etc...etc...to hell with you all quite frankly, I know a lot of people who have been alienated by the noxious element on this site and it seems I soon will be amongst their ranks! Good riddance to bad rubbish!!!

Good night!

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Of Dogs And Maniacs

To Sadegh,

So, anyone who criticizes you for whatever reasons is, either a maniac or a dog

You are one hell of an intellectual of the IR brand, that's for sure.

Just calm down and think what dogs normally do for a little bit of handout and compare your attitude to that of the dogs. It'll be interesting to hear the outcome of your thoughts on this subject.

If you think you are entitled to your ideas, then you should tolerate what you read in response to your blogs. But that's not how it seems to work for you and your mentors and sycophants, in the pyramid of the IR supporters.

Questions and others

Questions: Yes I lived and continue to live a fair amount of the year inside Iran (while you probably haven't even bothered to step foot in your so-called homeland in 30 years)...I wasn't born at the time of the revolution...I was born some years afterwards...I can write about whatever I like...if you don't want to read it, then don't!!! Very simple...I do care about Iranians very much...who the hell do you think you are??!!! The guardian of us all!!! You do not speak for anyone except yourself; we're a diverse people with different views, get used to it...all you do is confirm the opinion of bigots that "the Iranians are not yet ready, capable or mature enough for democracy", you're clearly not tolerant of other views and hostile toward pluralism...Get off you bloody high-horse and let us live...You're nobody to police our degree of attachment to our country... 

Entezari: If all the educated people you knew in college were critical of American foreign policy then maybe there is something to that...I have criticized the IRI on multiple occasions and have regularly posted articles critical of the IRI on my personal blog...get a clue, you have no right to sum up my personality, character or integrity because you've happened to have read a couple of my damn blog entires...how arrogant... 

IranDokht: that is very kind of you...these uncultured anti-intellectualistic philistines will always be around, and as liberals we have to tolerate their noxious presence...it's truly risible how they claim "civility" and "virtue" by latching to some mythical descent from the hakhaamaneshian, even though they are a tribal melange of Turks, Azeris, Kurds, Arabs, Mongols, Medes, Elamites, Assyrians and Jews etc...(though let me state categorically that I spurn the Aryanist racialist rubbish bandied about by yek mosht bisavaad)!!! 

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Sadegh jan

It seems like the real estate on this site is going up in value and your blogs are taking too much space...

I guess nobody cares if there are at least 5-6 junk blogs on each page about people leaving or coming back or enjoying nonsense, copy/pasted jokes etc...

but when it comes to you, the blogspace just doesn't have enough room.

Now I wonder what would have happened if there wasn't an Israeli group who made this report that you posted. Can you imagine how Israel's fans would attack you then? wow!

IRANdokht

Dear Sadegh: Did you grow up

Dear Sadegh: Did you grow up in Iran?? did you ever live in Iran?? How old were you during the revolution?? You don't seem to have much emotional attachment to Iran or the Iranians' plight...you're more interested in the lives of Palestinians.

This is absolute Garbage

Sadegh, where is the constant criticism of the IRI? All I see from you is Anti Zionist, Anti Israeli, Anti American, Anti Imperialist (total BS), pro leftist socialist propaganda. You just praise far lefty characters and bash US allies. It reminds me of my college professors. How original!

The akhoonds have created the most criminal, sexists, totaleterian, ethnocentric, bigoted regime in Iran's history and you are attempting to feed us this ashghal.

Ba Arezou ke shoma az Khab bidar beshid!

Keyvan

Here is an example of Margbar's comments: "Regardless, Sadegh, you are using this site to change the subject and all you lefty loony friends have joined you in this project (Mammd, Q,.....)." If that's not bullying, then what is? He's generalizing and categorizing, calling them lefty loony and crap like that. If you agree with him then you're a bully too. Don't try to impose your narrow point of view on others. It's not any of your business why I or anyone else decide to write a piece on issue of Palestine, or as you put it "Israel/Palestine crap." You don't want to bother, then ignore it. The guy has titled his piece very clearly, so why are you checking it out? to leave a nasty comment, right? If you're not interested, practice what you preach. There is a post on the late Shah on this site today. Fine. I checked it out. I could have as easily ignored it. You can do the same, but stop telling people what they should say or think about. Period. Now, I'm done with people like. Go ahead and bark at the moon if it pleases you.

vilifying Iranians, arabs and muslims, that's what Israel has

been doing and that's why it's our business to stop this criminal regime. Israel cannot hide her crimes against humanity anymore.

Anonymous-Today- Where do you See Bullying?

MargBar actually said that Sadegh was smart. The only bully so far has been you.

MargBar Actually makes a lot of sense. There should be 100 times more pressure by us Hamvatan's on the IRI than on Israel.

This Israel/Palestinian crap is a waste of time for US Iranians. Lets save Iranians first than help the poor Palestinians.

IranDokht thanks; your

IranDokht thanks; your comments are appreciated as always...

Anonymous-Today thanks very much...but I seriously doubt whether your sober and reasonable advice will be able to penetrate the mass hysteria...as Anonymous-Today rightfully said, there are plenty of denunciations of the IRI on this site and others; not everyone needs to write about the same thing...also, it shows the mentality of some of these individuals - they immediately denounce you not only because they disagree with your views, but because you haven't written about WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO WRITE ABOUT!

I actually find it absolutely hilarious that I can write literally about anything (AND I MEAN ANYTHING) and these maniacs will relate it back to the IRI. I once wrote about Valentine's Day here on Iranian.com (no mention of Iran or politics per se) and was for the most obtuse of reasons berated for not criticizing the regime! It's really quite tragic...

Let the dogs bark, if it makes them feel better...I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it... 

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Crimes of Israelis should be exposed

This is how they took over the land of Palestine. This shows their barbaric attitude toward non jews in this world. They must be exposed. Israel, this last Apartheid regime in the world has to be exposed and Palestinians deserve to get their land back.

Anonymous-today,

You say:

"Sadegh and others can discuss what they wish and don't need bullies like you to tell them what they should or should not think about."

But you are doing the same thing when you tell "Margbar" not to criticize Sadegh or comment on his blog!

Get a hold of yourselves, guys!

Sadegh et al., can ignore IR's crimes to concentrate on others and "Margbar" or anyone else can comment, accordingly.

If you don't like what he/she says, just ignore him. AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!

BTW, is Sadegh's face going to be on the moon, one of these days?

Margbar, what does g*%%#

has to do with shaghighe (since you're a fan of eschatological expressions)? You, margbar, who don't even put your real name on your commnents have no right to tell this site or anybody else what they should or should not discuss. it's called democracy, pal, learn a thing or two about it before espousing it. There are tens if not hundreds of articles and pieces on this site that discuss IRI's record. There is one right now that Party Girl posted about IRI's shameful treatment of its political prisoners. So, keep your shirt on. You don't own squat here. Sadegh and others can discuss what they wish and don't need bullies like you to tell them what they should or should not think about.

Violence of IRI exposed!

A Student Activist Javad Alikhani Has Been Subjected to Torture for the Past 45 Days by
the Ministry of Intelligence

According to news received from Sepaydar Prison in the city of Ahwaz, Mr. Javad Alikhani
who is a veterinarian student at Chemran University was transferred to solitary cells in
the Ministry of Intelligence detention centre in June.Without any legal reason Mr.
Alikhani was transferred to solitary cells in a secret Ministry of Intelligence detention
centre on June 20th 2008. While in solitary confinement for 45 days he was subjected to
brutal physical and psychological torture. Some forms of torture he was subjected
included:1. electric shock2. beatings with cables3. being held in an extremely hot cell
with a closed window and no air circulation.The interrogators who subjected Mr. Alikhani
to torture were hoping for a confession from him. For the past 10 months Mr. Alikhani has
been in custody in a very uncertain legal state, without bail, trial or even a trial date.
Mr. Alikhani’s family reside in the city of Karaj and need to travel a very long distance
and spend a large some of money to be able to visit their son. During the 45 days Mr.
Alikhani spent in solitary confinement his family had no news of his whereabouts or
health.Mr. Javad Alikhani was arrested on October 20th 2007 along with numerous other
student activists in Chemran University in the city of Ahwaz. All other students who were
arrested were released on bail with the exception of Mr. Alikhani.Mr. Alikhani has been
tried in two different courts. On April 30th 2008 he was tried in the Revolutionary Court
and acquitted of all charges. Further on June 8th 2008 he was tried in a criminal court
in a criminal court
before an individual called Ali Saki. He was once again acquitted, but again informed that
he would have a re-trial on September 6th 2008. In order to keep Mr. Alikhani incarcerated
the Regime is setting up numerous unnecessary trials with dates that are very far
apart.Individual who has a role in constantly bringing new charges against Mr. Alikhani
and not granting him bail is named Barani who is a persecutor in Section 1 of the
Revolutionary Court in Ahvaz. He is a former interrogator who worked for the Ministry of
Intelligence.Human Rights and Democracy Activists condemn the arrest, imprisonment and
torture of this activist and urge all human rights activists and organizations to take
immediate steps to help the immediate and unconditional release of Mr. Alikhani.Human
Rights and Democracy Activists in Iran

Dear IRANdokht

The answer is very simple. The Israelis have a democracy and free press. They report on their governments mistreatment of the Pals on a daily basis. They constantly report on how a minority of settlers within their own country have hijacked their policies towards the Palestinians. The Israelis have human rights groups operating within Israel and the territories that can give cameras to the Pals so they can record the mistreatment.

Tell me, can Sadegh or you go to the IRI, give the Iranian population cameras to record what is happening to the Iranians on a daily basis? Can you form human right groups to petition the IRI government on its abuse of the general population, treatment of minorities, lack of due process, lack of free press, lack of accounting and freely operate in the IRI like the Israeli left does?

As I said below, there are plenty of groups protecting the Pals interest. Here we have good smart people such as you and Sadegh. What do they waste our time with? The Israeli/Pal conflict. I am saying that our energy is being wasted in the wrong places. Iranians are dying and are being abused much harsher than the Pals. This is a more pressing issue for me because I am Iranian. I guess it is not so for the intellectual left from Iran. This is why we have the IRI in charge. Mentality such as this.

I hope this clears any confusion you have.

Sincerely,

MargbarIRI

Dear margbar

You sound so upset. Please calm down.

Thanks to JJ and Foaad and all the hands behind the iranian.com scene, there is plenty of room for everyone to express themselves, write about anything they want, show their trips and family pictures, posts jokes, say goodbye every time they decide to turn off their PC, etc...

Why do you get so upset if someone wants to discuss the realities of the region neighboring our country?

More and more we're associated with the rest of the middle east these days. We're hearing about IRI becoming some sort of regional power house, US has invaded and is occupying two of our neighbors in the East and West threatening to attack our country and Israel is the strongest voice in that choir...

why are you offended when someone discusses the most important and lasting conflict of the middle east in the last half a century?

I am so confused!!!!

IRANdokht

This is pure Ko__o Sher

The IRI is 1000 times more brutal than the Israelis. 1000 times! The IRI mistreats its own citizens in a much harsher manner. Moreover, this conflict between Jews & Arabs is a conflict between two people over land. Violence is wrong by all sides. The Palestinians are no angels either. Incidentally, the violence prior to Oslo was never at this level and the Pals were wining the conflict by resorting to using rocks only against the Israeli military might. What happened after Oslo? The Pals did not get what they want ( Israel was to blame 70% and the Pals 30% lets say) so they resorted to much deadlier violence, including suicide bombings against civilians, with Arms supplied to them by who? The Israelis themselves. So the world does not give a damn anymore but for bunch of lefties on the fringe of things. Once they resorted to suicide bombings, our sympathies for the Pals were no longer there.

Regardless, Sadegh, you are using this site to change the subject and all you lefty loony friends have joined you in this project (Mammd, Q,.....).

The subjects on this site should be the constant mistreatment of Iranians by the IRI, the potential conflict with the IRI because of its nuclear program and ambitions, Human rights violations, executions of minors, mistreatment of minorities such as the Bahai, Baluchi, Azari, democracy in the IRI, Iranian economy, science, the treatment of woman as second class citizens with respect to sexuality, divorce, marriage, having such laws as if a non muslim converts to Islam he can get all the property of his parents if his siblings are non muslim .......... These are more pressing issues than the Palestinians. The Palestinians have the entire Arab world to support them. Are the Arabs supporting the poor Iranians who are prisoners of this disgusting regime?

There are plenty of sites for the Pals (electronic intifada, BetSlem, palestinemonitor......) there is only 1 Iranian.com and you are attempting to hijack it with your constant anti zionist rants. This is a scapegoat- the same scapegoat that is used by the IRI. How sad.