Iran's "second revolution" - again

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Iran's "second revolution" - again
by Sargord Pirouz
18-Jan-2010
 

Cyrus Safdari over at the Iran Affairs blog recently put together a partial list of hype for a "second revolution" or "end of the IRI regime is near" that's been published in the Western media over the past three decades. To all you anti-IRI cheerleaders out there, have a look at what these so-called experts were claiming back then (and now):

Is Iran nearing point where revolution is spent?
Geoffrey Godsell.

The Christian Science Monitor
July 30, 1980

Political infighting in Iran casts doubt over future
of revolution
John Kifner.

The New York Times
Feb 9, 1981

Renewed unrest in mullah-ruled Iran – is a second
 revolution beginning?
Ralph Joseph.
The Christian Science Monitor
August 25, 1981

Iran regime’s staying power is debated by observers
after new bombing attack.
David Ignatius.

The Wall Street Journal
Sept 1, 1981

In revolutionary Iran: rising discontent: food and
freedom are in short supply as Muslim change and war
take a toll
Claude van England.

The Christian Science Monitor
Oct 6, 1982

War could threaten long-term stability of Iran regime.

Claude van England.

The Christian Science Monitor
Feb 27, 1985

Iran regime suffering its worst crisis; war, economy,
succession void plague nation
William Tuohy
Los Angeles Times
July 10, 1988

Discontent with revolution emerges in post-Khomeini
Iran.
Patrick E. Tyler.
The Washington Post
July 16, 1989

Painful rise in prices stirs discontent in Iran.

The New York Times
August 3, 1991

Iran’s revolution grows old; after 14 years, Islamic 
rules faces apathy, discontent, infighting
Caryle Murphy

The Washington Post
Feb 12, 1993

Inflation fuels discontent against Iran’s government

The New York Times
Nov 20, 1994

In Iran, the revolution unravels. (economic conditions
in Iran)
Robin Wright.

Los Angeles Times
Dec 2, 1994

The revolution erodes in rural Iran. (growing
disenchantment with religious rulers)
Kayaton Ghazi

The New York Times
Feb 18, 1995

Second revolution brews in Iran; the crucial support
of the poor and merchants is being undercut by
economic reforms
Lamis Andoni

The Christian Science Monitor
April 12, 1995

Youthful cravings are aging Iran’s revolution; As
ideology dies, voices of dissent grow louder
John Daniszewski

Los Angeles Times
March 26, 1996

Iran discontent rises as oil-based economy falls
(International Pages)
Douglas Jehl

The New York Times
Dec 13, 1998

Time is running out for Tehran regime (pro-democracy
movement in Iran is growing)(Column)
Sandra Mackey

Los Angeles Times
July 23, 1999

Discontent Simmers in Iran (Editorial)

Los Angeles Times
June 12, 2001

Iran: Soccer or politics or both? (800 arrested during
rioting after Iran lost World Cup) (International
Pages)

The New York Times
Oct 23, 2001

In Iran, an angry generation longs for jobs, more
freedom and power. (International Pages)
Amy Waldman

The New York Times
Dec 7, 2001

Iran’s next revolution. (need for US support to help
Iranians fight government’s repressive
measures)(Column)
Michael A. Ledeen

The Wall Street Journal
June 5, 2002

Iran’s third wave. (the third generation in Iran is
 expected to begin another revolution) (Column)
Thomas L. Friedman.

The New York Times
June 16, 2002

The coming revolution in Iran. (influence of the
Shiite theocracy and the mullahs will soon crumble

The Wall Street Journal
July 29, 2002

In Iran, a ’second revolution’ gathers steam; Ten days
of pro-democracy protests spur militants to counter
with a show of conservative force in the streets.
 (WORLD)

The Christian Science Monitor
Nov 29, 2002

Iran’s failed revolution. (Ayatollah Ruhollah 
Khomeini) (Editorial)

The New York Times
Feb 10, 2003

Iran: Ripe for Revolution? (EDITORIAL)

The Christian Science Monitor
June 16, 2003

Pending Regime Change in Iran. EDITORIAL

The Christian Science Monitor
Jan 13, 2004

Iran’s revolution at 25: out of gas; Wednesday’s
 silver anniversary marks a peak of political 
disillusionment. (WORLD)

The Christian Science Monitor
Feb 11, 2004

Year in year, year out, its always the same in the West: the end is near for the IRI. Trouble is, for these anti-Iran cheerleaders, they're always WRONG.

Now that's not to say Iran doesn't face many challenges- it does. But it's getting pretty pathetic all the hype and triumphalism (particularly amongst members of the completely biased and out-of-touch diaspora) that today the IRI is on the brink of implosion. See for yourself. Over the years, if you were all betting persons, you'd all be broke by now!

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Pahlevan

Magas

by Pahlevan on

Yes, That is a sad reality of the Iranian society; many of the older generation Iranians have what I call an "estebdadi" culture that actually was one of the reasons that led to the 1979 disaster (the takeover of Iran by Mullahs, not the overthrowing of the Shah). They are always looking for a "moghadas" leader to follow rather than fighting for a set of democratic principles.

The hezbol parasite Q, was saying that "exiles" (who are in fact mostly advocates of secular democracy rather than monarchy) push people towards Mullahs, which is a BS notion; and the reality of the situation is that it's exactly the opposite scenario. Mullahs have pushed people to the other extreme and have made the former Shah, a brutal dicator, popular among Iranians who are looking for some "moghadas" hero" to save them from this mess.

Fortunately, my generation (the younger generation) is much more evolved thanks to the modern technology and media and we have a much better understanding of the concept of democracy and what it means. And there are those exile media like VOA & BBC as well as exile intellectuals like Bahram Moshiri who have huge audience among young people in Iran.

As for me calling you a Basiji, well I am not really familiar with your ideas and notions but the mere fact that you are supporting Q (a known IRI supporter) and Sargooz Pirouz (obviously a joojeh basiji) led me to put you in the same category as them. but hey, I might be wrong.

Zemnan, ziad negaraneh man nabash ke leh kardaneh yeh magas zooreh aanchenanie nemikhad ... bishtar negaraneh khodet bash. 


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آقا مهدی

Kaveh Parsa


Iran Khodro gets $1.4b bailout

29 June 2009

//www.straitstimes.com/Breaking2BNews/Money/Story/STIStory_409799.html

FYI Iran National has always been the biggest car Manufacturer in the middle east.


marhoum Kharmagas

Easy Pahlevan!

by marhoum Kharmagas on

Kheyli zour nazan, ziresh ......! YOU without any reason called me a Basiji, at least I called you a monarchist because you had this in your comment:

"..it's actually the opposite; anyone who has actually been to Iran lately and sat in a taxi knows that popularity of people like former shah, for example, has grown by leaps and bounds, and he is often referred to as “khoda biamorz” ........"

Did you not agree with the following?

"Tabeediaan-e fosssil shodeh-e faraamarzi va faraamariz"

... that is fine ... then go overthrow IRI!  As your last comment indicates, that is what you believe in.

When I believed in overthrow of IRI, I went for it!


Pahlevan

Q

by Pahlevan on

why don't you explain this inner desire of yours to lick Akhouds smelly feet to prevent overthrowing of IRI. I am curious to know about this fetish that Basijis have; If any of the other three bacheh basijis can elaborate on this we would appreciate it. 

 


Pahlevan

What is that veeez veeeez I hear magas?

by Pahlevan on

Are you calling me a monarchist and a Zionist? ... LMAO,  that is actually very funny at the same time very revealing. 

Funny, because, my father was imprisoned and tortured during the Shah's regime and I find anyone who advocates for monarchy or "constitutional monarchy" (as some like to put it these days) irrelevant and fringe. Your kind (hezbol parasites) and their kind (monarchists) have actually a lot in common ... you are both fringe and insignificant. The only difference btw hezbols and monarchists is that you actually get paid to do this whereas they are just ignorant. I am supporter of a secular republic and calling me a monarchist is like, calling noam chomsky a neo-con.

It's very revealing because you are using the exact talking points that IRI uses. IRI's whole counter opposition method is based on accusing the opposition of being "taghooti", "monafegh" or "sahyonist" and then executing them. I guess that is also what they teach the basiji trainees in their propaganda centers, it's not as effective on Iranian.com though is it?

Zionists kill Palestinians and I find it disgusting but you know what I find more disgusting?, IRI torturing, raping & killing my countrymen for 30 years. Of course, I don't expect you anti-Iranian Basijis to understand this. 


Q

Sure COP, you can tell yourself anything you want

by Q on

Everything that I am today is because of me and no one else.

Just for your own information, so far whenever I have heard a statement like this -- without fail --, it has come from a selfish person who has too big a chip on his shoulder and too blind to understand other people's valuable contributions, be it family, teachers, government or humanity in general.

I do not sit in a glass house. In fact, I have worked for a living since before the age of 18 (along with going to school).

OK, please do me, or at least your readers a big favor. Between now and next time you are going to "ignore" me by writing a 4 paragraph response, read and understand this page, it might help you tremendously in your future conversations.

Kharmagas: Yes, you may take that phrase. But I'm holding on to my other trademarked term "Secret Keyboard fighters of Freedom(TM)" for big royalties!

Also, I see your mohareb and raise you a full mofsede fel arz. Not me, but my Navy cousin which caused huge problems for the entire family.


marhoum Kharmagas

Exiled Fossil Class (to Pahlevan)

by marhoum Kharmagas on

Baleh, bandeh ham migam Shah raa khoda biaamorzedesh. But what do you monarchists have to do with him?

He at the end his life was trying to make Iran INDEPENDENT, he at the end of his life explicitly questioned what  AIPAC was doing..... you monarchists are controlled by AIPAC, and look to Israel and U.S for bringing you to power, and those of you who are leftover monarchists, very likely are the ones who betrayed Shah and jim fanged as Zahedi said!

Shah at the of his life wanted to make Iran PROSPEROUS, you monarchists directly and indirectly advocate sanctions and war against Iran!

Now, what was your question?


Cost-of-Progress

Q...

by Cost-of-Progress on

I usually ignore your comments. Behind your veneer of intelectualism sits the face of yet another islamist whom I consider anti-Iranian. But since you addressed me in your post, then I gotta reply. I do not sit in a glass house. In fact, I have worked for a living since before the age of 18 (along with going to school). Everything that I am today is because of me and no one else. No body ever handed me anything.

I also do not consider myself in exile as I am free to go back and forth to the current mullahdom whenever I please. I choose to live in the west becasue I consider your theocracy an insult to my intelligence. The following passage from your brain fart of a post is pasted below:

 "If you really want to destroy any sort of democracy movement in Iran, all you have to do is show the people any of the loudmouth fantasies of the Exiled Fossil Class(TM) and their Euro-American "freedom seeking" friends, and then just sit back and watch as the masses run like hell to kiss the feet of whatever Mullah they have to to make sure these a-holes are kept away for ever"

The above is not only arrogant but downright stupid. You expect anyone to believe that YOU are for democracy Mr. Mousavi-for- president avatar?

You may not like the demise of your beloved Islamist regime, but it is coming, if not today or tomorrow...soon. Not because of us Exiled Fossils, but because of the young Iranians who have finally seen you mosters for who you really are.

I truly dislike everything that you people stand for. You are the enemy of Iran, not I.

____________

IRAN FIRST

____________


Pahlevan

Basiji brothers in action

by Pahlevan on

Sargord , Q, magas, & Mehdi, I got a question for you guys … are you sock puppets of one hezbol parasite, or are you actually  four different hezbol parasites? …  I hope, for the sake of Iranian people, that it’s the latter because IRI money spent on losers like you to entertain us is better than money spent on hezbol goons to beat Iranians on the street.

"If you really want to destroy any sort of democracy movement in Iran, all you have to do is show the people any of the loudmouth fantasies of the Exiled Fossil Class(TM) and their Euro-American "freedom seeking" friends, and then just sit back and watch as the masses run like hell to kiss the feet of whatever Mullah they have to to make sure these a-holes are kept away for ever." 

Is that what you do in your free time Q? … Do you often kiss akhounds smelly feet to prevent IRI from being overthrown? …  I mean, I have seen pictures of basijis and hezbols kissing Khomeini & Khamenei’s feet and licking the ground where they walked on, but is that something basijis do on a regular basis? Do you lick the feet of any akhound or is it just Khamenei? … Just wondering … 

As for the rest of the people of Iran, it's actually the opposite; anyone who has actually been to Iran lately and sat in a taxi knows that popularity of people like former shah, for example, has grown by leaps and bounds, and he is often referred to as “khoda biamorz” or "khoda rahmatesh koneh". It's sad that in the past 30 years your masters have acted so monstrously that many people long for the Pahlavi era rather than longing for a future democratic Iran. Pahlavi era was no dream-come-true but it was hundreds of times better than the past thirty years. As one of my friends always says “Amsaaleh Khomeini va Khamenei, Hitler va Stalin ro roo sefid kardan, cheh bereseh be shah".

But fortunately younger Iranian generation has a relatively good understanding of principles of democracy and freedom, thanks to satellite channels and the internet news sites (mostly managed by Iranians in exile by the way). They are already familiar with the ideas of intellectuals living in exile and have embraced many of them like Bahram Moshiri who advocates for a secular democracy.

By the way, sargord, thank you for finding these articles, they only show one thing, and that is the fact that Iranians have been trying to overthrow this regime since shortly after it was established and revealed its monstrous face. It’s not an easy task but we Iranians will never stop fighting for our freedom. In the mean time, you guys keep up your hezbol comedy show.


Fatollah

divaneh Jaan

by Fatollah on

who was Sarkar Barandeh? really, I am not kidding, Sarkar Barandeh sounds very familiar! :) 


Onlyiran

Sargord

by Onlyiran on


marhoum Kharmagas

I was a mohaareb! (to D.Mazdak)

by marhoum Kharmagas on

hehe, actually more or less I am an old exile myself (*), when I left Iran I had mohaareb status! ............., although I am NOT a monarchist (thank god), part of the following applies to me too:

"Tabeediaan-e fosssil shodeh-e faraamarzi va faraamariz"

 

(*) I still can't go back and forth to Iran easily.


benross

Just a point: non of those

by benross on

Just a point: non of those quotes is from an Iranian. Iranians always wished IRI gone, sometime wishful to see it gone soon. But never so many Iranians -not Western journalists- SAY that IRI will be gone.

The rule of thumb of a revolution is that the people can't take it anymore -this has been already established for some 30 years- AND the regime can't handle the discontent anymore. The second part is the first time since the eve of Iraq attack on Iran many years ago. 


Anonymous Observer

Mehdi

by Anonymous Observer on

Hala inghadr mikhandi yevaght rodeh-bor nashi...

PS/ I know that you're not Iranian and cannot read Persian, but have someone translate this for you.   


Mehdi

The laughter gets louder :)

by Mehdi on

It is quite comical to read the comments of the "fossils in exile." Some chant the same lies that were being chanted in 1979 - that any improvement, production, etc in Iran is all fake and is in fact damaging to the country. Remember? They used to say that "Paykan" was being produced in Iran in order to make Talbot of England rich - that somebody had bribed somebody in Iran National in order to save Talbot from bankrupcy. There were many such "facts" being circulated by apparently "children of revolution" but in reality by CIA-MI6-Mosad conglamorate of thieves. They used to invalidate any industry in Iran as "dependant on foreign countries and therefore useless and even bad." They would compare Iran, not to its neighbors, not any country in Middle East, but to America and France, etc!!!! And if Iran or Shah's system did not meet those standards and actually surpass them, it would not be acceptable and would be invalid. Today if Iran is the largest producer of cars in ME, that does not matter to these fossils - Iran must be the largest manufacturer in the world and beat US, Japan, Germany, etc!  This is REALLY comical, in a sad way. You guys need serious help. You are paranoid delusional and unable to see what is in front of your noses!

Yeah, let;s nitpick on numbers and play on words and distort truths and make them look different.

Also what does it matter if I am a supporter of the regime (which is a meaningless term anyway) or not? Why not give a reply? Why swear and use nasty words and throw tantrum and get psychotic? Why threats? Just answer back if you can.


DariusMazdak

And Kharmagas

by DariusMazdak on

You're only planting horrible seeds in your own heart and mind. I hope that what you find so funny about others' lives and destiny (the exile of millions of our compatriots) will not happen to you and your family.


DariusMazdak

Q

by DariusMazdak on

With all due respect, that was a pathetic post. How can you insult millions of Iranians with your "Exiled" comment? Do you thing you have more rights than others just because you have a rishoo profile picture? Do you live in Iran by the way? I was thinking, why I have never heard for example an Israeli saying such a ridiculous thing about fellow Jews living abroad. After a two weeks membership on this site, that was the most unintelligent comment I have read so far. You are the winner of the trophy. And please, avoid writing about the "masses". What you described (kissing the feet of whatever Mullah) was how you and your family will react; Iranians are more intelligent than that.


marhoum Kharmagas

Exiled Fossil Class(TM) [to Q]

by marhoum Kharmagas on

Q, I was wondering if I could use part of your (TM) expression in the following expression :

"Tabeediaan-e fosssil shodeh-e faraamarzi va faraamariz"


divaneh

I am loosing hope in you Sarkar Barandeh

by divaneh on

You are still to do a convincing blog. Just to let you know that we are not as simple as Mehdi, I would like to mention the following.

1- All these articles point to the undisputed fact that people in Iran have never seen IRI as a legitimate government and their discontent has deep roots. This time however people follow their goals with more zeal.

2- Christian Science Monitor, New York Times, Los Angles Time and WSJ are not exactly the entire western media. You need a wider base than this.

3- Some of these articles are un-related to your subject and your claims. See below.

Iran: Soccer or politics or both? (800 arrested during
rioting after Iran lost World Cup) (International
Pages)

The New York Times
Oct 23, 2001

You need to do better Sarkar.


Q

COP, have you ever heard of the saying

by Q on

"people who live in glass houses" shouldn't call others "brainwashed moron" ?

I think your narrative talents fall well short of astute, if you know what I mean.

I ultimately don't know if the end is truly near for the IRI. Yes, the out-of-touch exiles and their predictions are jokes at best, including the ones they made right before the elections. But on the other hand, these have been the most serious demonstrations in Iran since 1979.

One thing I do know.

If you really want to destroy any sort of democracy movement in Iran, all you have to do is show the people any of the loudmouth fantasies of the Exiled Fossil Class(TM) and their Euro-American "freedom seeking" friends, and then just sit back and watch as the masses run like hell to kiss the feet of whatever Mullah they have to to make sure these a-holes are kept away for ever.


DariusMazdak

To Mehdi

by DariusMazdak on

Well, first of all, your statistics are wrong. Iran Khodro, which is the former Iran National, stolen by Islamic thugs from its owners after the Islamic "revolution", has produced some 460,000 vehicles during the first 10 months of this Iranian year 1388. The figure you provided (1 million) is about the total production of this sector in Iran (including SAIPA and other smaller manufacturers) during the same period. In addition, Iran Khodro exports only to countries that are political allies of the disgusting Islamic Republic: Venezuela, Senegal, Russia, Belarus, Cuba...You don't really think that they are exporting cars to France or Germany, do you? Finally, Iran Khodro is not the biggest car manufacturer in Iran anymore as the production figures of SAIPA (stolen as well by your friends) are higher currently.

It is interesting to notice, that with a turnover of some $10 billion, Iran Khodro has some $20 billion debts officially. Half of the company's production are Peugeot 405s, a thirty year old concept. With the help of Iran Khodro, Iran has been the most important country in the world for Peugeot in 2009 in terms of net income. For your information, Iran's automotive industry which was ahead of South-Korea and Turkey in 1978, is way behind them today. We are definitely not where we were supposed to be. South-Koreans who were mostly truck drivers in Iran before your beloved "revolution" are currently selling us billions of manufactured goods every year.


marhoum Kharmagas

thanks for the laughter Sargord!

by marhoum Kharmagas on

Sargord, I have no faith in either of IRI factions, and believe IRI as a whole has made too many blunders ....... however I also have no illusion about many of the bi-orzeh, corrupt exiles, specially the imbecile monarchists many of whom are blowing their fuses in your blog and making me laugh. Thanks for the laughter!


Cost-of-Progress

And you represent the fellowship of audacity

by Cost-of-Progress on

Aren't you the same mehdi who just praised MPD for his Islam Trek blog?  And here, you're  tearing yourself a new one in support your murderous klan?

I've said this before you morons:

Even if monkies were in power for the last 30 years, they would have still been able to copy designs for a 1969 vehicle and produce it.

YOU have done NOTHING for Iran and her people - NOT A GOD DAMN THING. Just misery and opression.

____________

IRAN FIRST

____________


liberation08

Sargord, can you tell me

by liberation08 on

Sargord,

can you tell me where you get the pictures that you post on your blogs?

thanks


Faramarz_Fateh

Ahaay Mehdi

by Faramarz_Fateh on

Iran Khodro = Iran National (Iran Nacional)

Started in 1969 by the order of the Shah, during his reign. 

After 30 years, you want us to proud of 36K cars export?

The reason they are now exporting is because people are buying Korean and Japanese cars. 

Yeah, great achievement you moron.  


Anonymous Observer

Yes we are haters Mehdi, a/k/a YMJ, a/k/a etc...

by Anonymous Observer on

We do hate the IRI, BIG TIME!!!  I think that after 30 years of death, imprisonment, torture, war, executions and rapes, "hate" is all we have left in our hearts for your beloved regime...and no amount of "cars" being "exported" to Senegal is going to change our minds...

I guess in a sense, "hating" the IRI is much better than some amorphous "hate" for the "west" which is used to justify all kinds of crimes against humanity against the people of Iran...

Keep on "loving" the IRI my friend and see where that is going to take you...  


Mehdi

The Fellowship of Hate

by Mehdi on

Open your eyes wider:

Iran-Khodro to Export 36,000 Passenger Cars by March

(Iran's state-owned Iran Khodro is the largest carmaker in the Middle
East, Central Asia and North Africa, with an annual production of more
than one million vehicles...)

For a complete listing: //english.farsnews.net/NewsV.php?srv=2

Is this what you call "ass-backwardness, misery, economic meltdown, murder, rape, torture, brain drain, opression, repression,  and, and...?"

Lies, misrepresentations, half-truths, evil purposes, etc are the hallmarks of those who want a bloodshed in Iran under the guise of "help."


Cost-of-Progress

The Fellowship of Reesho-O-Pashm

by Cost-of-Progress on

faced with angry comments about his stupid blog, the mozdoor summons help from another traitor who, in his little mind, mistakenly might even believe the rapists and murderes he supports are justified...

"contrubute: you say? What have you contributed other than ass-backwardness, misery, economic meltdown, murder, rape, torture, brain drain, opression, repression,  and, and...?

____________

IRAN FIRST

____________


Faramarz_Fateh

Dear Tahgord Dirouz

by Faramarz_Fateh on

Thanks for the laugh.

Your time and the time of anyone who supports this regime is up. Tic Toc Tic Toc

Khamenei will be hanging from a tree branch on Pahlavi street.  You are lucky you are an unknown entity. 


masoudA

Sargord!!

by masoudA on

Who is IR's public relations firm?   You wish to tell the truth?  tell us how much money IR spends for these articles.    Expose some of the authors.    I know I can get any article published on the local paper here with $100,000 in PR funds.   You may not understand what I am telling you - but those of us familiar with how private press works know full well how "Propaganda" can be hidden as "Opinion".   You my dear major are just recycling for the most parts the BS created by IR's PR funds.  

BTW - I hear these days the cost of a favorable article for IR has dropped to less than $10,000.   Ettelaat provides the punch lines and the ready to hire authors write the rest.   See you on 22 Bahman!!  get new articles ready - western papers can't wait for your money.