عقـده ناجـی بشریت داشتن


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عقـده ناجـی بشریت داشتن
by مسعود از امریکا
13-Apr-2009
 

دیروز در بلاگ من، جنـون و دیوانـگی، که راجع به اقای نور بود، یک سری اطلاعات تازه پیدا شد که خیلی ها نمی دانستند! من مجبور شدم که این بلاگ امروز، عقـده ناجـی بشریت داشتن (Messianic Complex) ، را بنویسم به امید این که اینطور مزخرفات را در فکر برادران و خواهران ایرانی ما راه داده نشود.

 

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ای خداوندا، بس به من گو، که من ناجی بشرم، و یا نه
   ایا در خواب و خیالم، تو به من گو، که من ناجی بشرم، و یا نه

ای باب پیامبر، تو امام زمانی، بس بمن گو، ای راست مرد
   پس بهاء الله چه شد، من نمی دانم، که من ناجی بشرم، و یا نه

همه گویند، که من دیوانه ام، ای خداوند، من بس ندانم
   این خیالات است، و یا جنون، من نمی دانم، که ناجی بشرم، و یا نه

ای خداوندا، به من عقلی ده، که بفهمم، کاین واقعیت، بس چیست
   من مریضم، لیکن این نمی دانم، پس به من گو، که من ناجی بشرم، و یا نه

بر سر انجام کار، این دنیای من، دنیای بس دگریست
   لیکن تو به من گو، ای برادر، من نم دانم، که من ناجی بشرم، و یا نه

 


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capt_ayhab

VeryAnonymous, Faryarm

by capt_ayhab on

VeryAnonymous:

I by no means am trying to impose any sort of censorship, nor am I trying to silence anyone from expressing their view.

I believe you have totally misunderstood my comments and plea. I am a Muslim myself and I have learned how to tolerate and respect everyone's faith and beliefs.

My purpose has been to plea to the ladies and gentleman to refrain from personal attacks. Instead concentrate on expressing their viewpoints and beliefs in logical and civilized manner.

If you find my plea for civilized dialogue a form of censorship, I regret to say that you have totally misunderstood me. Read my comments again please.

Dear Faryarm:

I thank you for your civilized and logical response. You personally know my views on the subject. Any form of attack directed toward any group of people constitutes bigotry and hate mongering. As you know I have always objected to any form of hate speech and propaganda.

I do enjoy your posts and your comments greatly, even though I do not agree with many of them. But they give a window to other viewpoints and philosophies. Please do not ever stop sharing your wisdom.

Respectfully

-YT


NUR

The Baha'i lynch mob protesteth too much

by NUR on

You people are all Haifan Baha'is here posting on this blog and congratulating each other, patting each other on the back, trying to manufacture (false) impressions of consensus. You have exposed nothing because there is nothing to expose about me unlike you malicious cultists that have everything to lose the more the truth comes out about you - as it is and will continue to. And if I was no consequence to the Haifan cult, their Internet Agency hacks here wouldn't have been spending so much time and energy just on me over the past couple of weeks playing dirtier than a crack addict late on a fix! Obviously I am of serious, serious consequence to your cult, Faryarm. And you know it to be true!

The one comment that started with "as a secular Iranian" was great. LOL!


faryarm

Dear Captain.

by faryarm on

Dear Captain.

I appreciate your sentiments.

As you may be aware I  and Many here, Bahai or not  after months of incendiary blogs and attacks designed to confuse the unsuspecting and defame Bahais, tried against our better judgement to reason with someone with obviously a much deeper agenda; one that has finally revealed the basis for his campaign against Bahais; namely his recent  announcement on these pages: Nuzdah Farman-i-Hazrat-i-Wahid-i-Azal 

Mr Nur or Wahid Azal, is free to continue, and I am sure he will,  as long as he has an audience who will read his material.

I humbly ask people to try to gauge Nur's mindset; if they are to respond to do so  without personal attacks.

As  a Bahai, I do not wish him any Ill Will, however i have no interest in engaging him, since Mr Nur's Attacks,  I am convinced is, of no consequence to Bahai's; if any it has helped raise the level of consciousness one that leads to a deeper investigation and healthy debate amongst Iranians.

with regards

faryarm 

 

 

 


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capt_ayhab

by VeryAnonymous (not verified) on

You should not impose censure on the readers and commentators here.
Nur is free to express himself and so are the rest. He delivers hate speeches and and elicits responses.
Faryar is not a cyber police nor is he a clergy to demand the unverifiable public to refrain from speaking their mind.
Although Bahais well know the destructive nature of negative behavior, there is noway to verify impostures who pose and post as Bahais. And neither Faryar or yourself have any right to force the non Bahais who are under the dictates of their own conscience not to speak their mind. Although it is the wish of the majority of the people here that only issues be addressed with good will and with great consideration for our fellow human beings we can not impse but plea to the individuals and not burdon Faryar or others to take responsibility for virtual audiences with hidden identities and agendas.

You may plea with anonymous commentators and Nur to observe the GOLDEN RULE.
"My religion is love... and I will oppose them..." are the very hypocritical calculated and manipulative words straight from Nurs pie-hole.

God bliss


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is it being naive or is there a motive?

by Sarbaz (not verified) on

yes you Bahais and any one that is a target to this man NUR such as JJ and you los Angelesi Iranians should just sit and say nothing and take all the poop and abuse he gives you because you are just so ugly by speaking up...its freedom of speech after all and any message of hate specially unfounded loony claims by a prophet from Australia is his god given opinion so how dare you have an opinion of yours in opposition !!! you should be ashamed for defending yourselves.
oh please , he brought this on himself without any provocation and defense is absolutely called for in this case.


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Massoud Khan

by A Secular Iranian (not verified) on

As a secular Iranian, I would like to express my gratitude to you for exposing this character NUR. For quite sometime, we have been reading utterly despicable comments and blogs from NUR, directed mostly towards the Bahais on the site, and also in some instances, towards the Publisher of Iranian.com, Mr. Jahanshah Javid.

For many of us, it was not quite clear what the whole picture was all about. We would read bits and pieces, here and there, but the full picture was never complete.

There is something that I would like to share with you, that perhaps others haven't: The past couple of blogs that you have written on Mr. NUR, including this one, have FORCED THE ISSUE for Mr. NUR. By that I mean, he had to come out, and show his true nature and intentions.

Finally, I would like to say this: There are some well-meaning, yet gullible and naive people on this site, who have sympathy for this guy NUR. I am sorry to say this, but this sympathy is quite misplaced, and very much like having sympathy for a SERPENT!

Again, Thank You for your efforts in this direction,

With Best Wishes,

A Secular Iranian


capt_ayhab

Mr. Faryarm

by capt_ayhab on

Dear Faryarm,

You are well aware of the amount of respect I hold for you. You have always conducted yourself like the gentlemen you are.

I like to register a complaint with you and since I know rest of the ladies and gentlemen of the Baha'i faith hold great deal of respect for you I am sure you can make it happen.

Sir kindly ask some of the ladies and gentlemen who are so viciously attacking Mr. NUR's person to refrain from such ugly attacks. I do not agree with most of  Mr. NUR's opinions but has all the right to express himself in a logical and civilized manner.

I am certain that you will oblige me on this humble request. This is utterly ugly and uncalled for.

Respectfully

-YT


capt_ayhab

so ugly

by capt_ayhab on

It is utter ugliness and vicious to attack a person for holding a different view than you Mr. Masoud.

If according to you[allegedly] you and your religion is better than Mr. NUR's then is this the way you demonstrate it?

Your recent blogs been vicious, vindictive and utterly ugly sir, I regret to say that.

Regards

-YT


Alexx

هم وطنان عزیز

Alexx


هم وطنان عزیز

امیدوارم به حرمت این سایت که  اسم ایران عزیز روی ان است هر بلاگ و هر کامنتی را ننویسید .
تا توانی دلی بدست ار که دل شکستن هنر نمیباشد.

با تشکر


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Nurs' Mission, the criminally minded

by Theosophia (not verified) on

Irrespective of whether this guy is making a claim, or he is sick in the head one thing you should all be aware of.

NUR is criminlly minded.
His only object is to create confusion, by distortion, coersion, deciet and lies and harrassment.
The law will soon catch up with him, that is the only solution.
Untill then he will take anything you throw at him, because it creates more confuion and distraction.

keep the focus on his intentions, regardless of wheather he is schizophrenic or has any claims.
He does hide behind schizophrenia at times to get pitty of the naive after all any cover is acceptable.

Keep the facts and his goal in mind.

I'll be back.


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GROUND CONTROL TO 'PROPHET NUR'

by Captain Kirk (not verified) on

COME IN PROPHET NUR :) :) :)


IRAN PARAST

To: Prophet NUR ;)

by IRAN PARAST on

Please keep them coming :)

Thanks!!

 

 

 


faryarm

"....ای باب پیامبر، تو امام زمانی، بس بمن گو،......."

faryarm



From the Poem you cite..


ای باب پیامبر، تو امام زمانی، بس بمن گو، ای راست مرد 
   پس بهاء الله چه شد، من نمی دانم، که من ناجی ام بشرم، و یا نه

 

If One undedrstands correctly, That you question;

If the Bab was the  Imam Zaman, then Who is Baha'u;llah.

 Massoud Khan; 

The following repeated post, might clear up the possible confusion here.

Video in 3 parts on History of the Bab and Baha'u'llah. 

 


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"...one most difficult diagnoses in the whole, entire field".

by Tehosophia (not verified) on

Schizophrenia is not difficult to diagnose at all. In your case maybe though but not in general.
A differential diagnosis sometimes needed for Bipolar vs Schizoid.
I will post what Schizophrenia is and its symptoms.

typology??
empirical, self-referential?

One thing is sure though, you are being played well, but not good enough.


NUR

So far it is you hanging by the rope....

by NUR on

BTW, seeing how you think you are a psychologist, without googling it, define paranoid-schizophrenic. You can't. The typology itself is being challenged by the industry as a whole, not to mention it is one of the one most difficult diagnoses in the whole, entire field. But perhaps you might have empirical, self-referential expertise in the area.

And don't worry, I'll keep writing making a fool of you with you writing back claiming imaginary, empty victories, even after I've proven you an idiot and a liar, how man times now? It's what you Haifan Baha'is do best, claiming fictitious victories for yourselves, spiritual conquest of the planet and all...

And you did say you weren't a Baha'i, right?


IRAN PARAST

NUR

by IRAN PARAST on

I said this to you yesterday, and I am going to say the same thing to you today: Please keep writing these comments! Like I said, 'You give enough rope to a fool, and he will ultimately hang himself'.

You have clearly shown to everyone the unstable person that you are. In my eyes, you not only have the Messianic Complex, but also, you are a Paranoid-Schizophrenic.

Just keep writing these comments. The more you write, the more people become aware of your twisted mind!


NUR

Ay Beekaaraan

by NUR on

Al-haqqu va'l-insaf, that you people seriously need to get some real lives! Here's my messianic command to you herd of cows/galleh-ye gavan-i-iranian.com.

Now show me a messianic figure of recent times who has come up with a better, more lucid and more relevant list of commandments than these 19 Commandments of mine here. Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nari surely didn't. Take a look at his Kitab-i-Aqdas where the acme of the laws of his revelation revolves around washing your feet in the summertime and burning arsonists!

And BTW if I can get this entire site to become obsessed with me in this manner, what does that say about you all and about my metaphysical powers to get you all to focus on a single person/topic these past weeks - esp. Massoud az Amerika! Even though you can't admit it to yourselves, perhaps you do need a Messiah, Imam-Mahdi or even a qalandar Pir like me to lead you all out of the wilderness of your existential confusion! Read my 19 Commandments carefully and maybe you'll really figure out what I'm actually about.


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Worse then I thought!

by Tina (not verified) on

Once he identifies himself as Wahid Azal, another time he talks about Sufism, next time he is not covenant but yet he says "me" and refer to N.H./covenant.God have mercy...
This is really SAD.

Pls, let it go...

:'(


IRAN PARAST

Dear Massoud

by IRAN PARAST on

I read all the comments in your blog yesterday, and I wasn't aware until late, that this guy NUR really believes that the Bahai Prophet, Bahaullah, is actually a false prophet, and that he (NUR) is the chosen one. By chosen one, I mean the Prophet that Bab prophesied would come after him.

I honestly felt at the beginning that this was a typical Bahai and Babi quarrel. But later on yesterday, a Religious Scholar, pointed out that this was not just a typical quarrel, but that NUR believes that he is the rightful and chosen Prophet as prophesied by Bab, and not Bahaullah. Later on, NUR actually confirmed that!

I mean, this is completely Nuts! This guy is completely out of touch with reality. Like you, I am neither a Bahai, nor a Babi. I was raised as a Muslim. But I never thought that such nonsense was going on behind the scenes between the two faiths.

A gentleman yesterday in your blog pointed out to David Koresh who was a similar Nut to this guy NUR, except that he was Christian. David Koresh believed that he was the reincarnation of Jesus, and we all remember what happened in 1993 in Waco, Texas.

This guy NUR, could potentially not only be dangerous to himself, but also to others. I hope that everyone would take note of that.

Thanks for the blog!


alborz

بسی جای تاسف است...

alborz


....که پس از صرف این همه وقت به روی این سایت، و بحث در توصیف این شخص، فقط گرد و خاک در مشام همه پر شده!

البرز


مسعود از امریکا

دوستان

مسعود از امریکا


دیروز در بلاگ من، جنـون و دیوانـگی، که راجع به اقای نور بود، یک سری اطلاعات تازه پیدا شد که خیلی ها نمی دانستند! من مجبور شدم که این بلاگ امروز، عقـده ناجـی بشریت داشتن (Messianic Complex) ، را بنویسم به امید این که اینطور مزخرفات را در فکر برادران و خواهران ایرانی ما راه داده نشود.

من میخواهم تشویقتان کنم که نگاهی به بلاگ دیروز، جنـون و دیوانـگی، بیاندازید، و برای خودتان قضاوت کنید. بنده، همانطور که قبلا عرض کردم، نه بهایی هستم، و نه بابی. در ضمن، باهیچ شخصی در این دو گروه، نه دوستی دارم، و نه رفت و امدی - موفق باشید!