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irajkhan

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Thank you Soosan Khanoom for the post.
Also, for standing up to those who are for the destruction of Iranian civil society, the agents of the Israeli lobby and the ignorant followers of Israeli line on this website.

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Thank you SK for your valiant effort.
Unfortunately, a simple issue like this has been complicated by the fact that the regime lies everyday 24 hours. I mean even aside for those on this forum who follow certain agendas (Israel lobby, MEK ,etc.) there may be others who do not subscribe to such agendas , but still harbor deep skepticism about any claims coming from Iran. I personally think that the cause of medicine shortage is a mixture of internal corruption and inefficiency as well as the sanctions. However, since most people here have relatives and friends in Iran, and as the sufferings compound, I’m sure there will be greater realization that indeed the sanctions have severely impacted the supply of medicine in Iran. But the truth is that the sanctions are in place to increase the sufferings of the people so that it could lead to the regime change.

SoosanKhanoom

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Parviz, Thanks for your comments .. Actually, it is mentioned in the posted article . It suggests that it is a mixture.


دولت ایران به خاطر عدم کفایتش در مدیریت این بحران، سزاوار انتقاد صریح است، با عدم تخصیص ارز کافی و ناتوانی در برخورد با فساد در عرصه دارو، اما علت اصلی این مشکل تحریم های آمریکا و اروپاست که معاملات مالی با ایران را کنترل می کنند.

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There have always been a two system of health care for Iranians. One for the poor and one for the Rich. I have lost poor relatives who did not get the private care that the rich get in Iran and as a result both of them died because they were treated in a dolati (governmental) Hospital. The negligence (as simple as prescribing antibiotics) in these hospitals are appalling and there is no way of suing the doctors. I also have super rich relatives that doctors make house calls for them and there is never a shortage of anything for them...The system has always been unjust and unfair.

SoosanKhanoom

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Parviz, Thanks for your comments .. Actually, it is mentioned in the posted article . It suggests that it is a mixture.

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SADJADPOUR: Because -- I compare sanctions to chemotherapy: You're trying to target the tumor, you're trying to target the regime and not kill the body politic. And that's not possible with chemotherapy, and it's not possible with sanctions. You can't perfectly target the regime and avoid hardship on the people.

So anything we can do that eases humanitarian suffering on -- specifically on medicine and these types of things, I think we need to do everything in our power to do that.

""SADJADPOUR: Well, the challenge also with sanctions vis-a-vis Iran is that we're dealing with a regime which has long been willing to subject its population to pretty severe economic hardship rather than compromise on the political and ideological goals. I mean, this was a regime which prolonged a pretty bloody war with Iraq for several years for its own internal legitimacy. That's one challenge.

But I think it's useful to contemplate the situation that the supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, is currently in. As I said, he's been leader since 1989, and his modus operandi essentially has been to try to preserve the status quo, the status quo that was given to him by Khomeini, by avoiding transformative decisions. And he's now put himself in a situation in which Iran is faced with unprecedented international economic and political pressure.

And I see two doors, two exit doors, for him to reduce that pressure. Exit number one is a nuclear deal. Exit number two is a nuclear bomb.

Exit number one, a deal -- his other modus operandi is that when you're under pressure, never compromise, because if you compromise under pressure, that's not going to alleviate the pressure; it's going to project weakness and encourage even more pressure. So he's long been averse to compromise. The lesson he learned from recent history was that when Gadhafi gave up his nuclear program, that made him vulnerable to NATO intervention. So he's averse to compromise.

But the second door is equally perilous to him -- I mean, the door number two, a nuclear weapon. I mean, when I was based in Tehran in my previous job, with the International Crisis Group, I used to interact with some of these Revolutionary Guardsmen, who drew this, you could argue, facile lesson from Pakistan, and that was, well, when Pakistan actually detonated a bomb, what did that do? It turned outside pressure into outside engagement. The world was forced to deal with them. It became, you know, fait accompli that they were a nuclear power.

But I think that Khamenei's exit door number two is also quite complicated because he's forced to take a very deliberate approach -- they're not making a nuclear sprint; it's a nuclear brisk walk, you could argue -- so it's a deliberate approach, because he knows that if he were to try to break out, he would likely get bombed. But he then has to calculate if this system can sustain the type of pressure it is right now in the time it takes them to acquire a nuclear weapon, which could be several years.""....

http://www.cfr.org/iran/presidential-inbox-irans-nuclear-program/p30175

you should also read James Dobbins remarks regarding why sanctions were put on in the first place and it's not just the nuclear issue.

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That was a great discussion by Sadjadpour on the panel at CFR. He also said that the state of the economy is the biggest complaint by the Iranian people, but when you ask the next question which is "what is to blame for the miserable state of Iran's economy", nobody says anything about the western sanctions, instead they blame incompetence, mismanagement and the corruption of the Regime.

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That discussion is a MUST READ for all Iranians, particularly, regime's lobbyists so they would know that Obama administration is not buying their argument and sees right through their shenanigans.

SoosanKhanoom

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Seriously, Faramarz?
Mismanagement is what Bush did in New Orleans ! Just imagine what would happen to the U.S if U.S was under the harshest sanctions on earth ?
I really do not know how Iranians are even survinng this ??
There is a simple talk of winter storm here in the east coast and then all the neighborhood supermarkets gets emptied out of water and supplies !
I bow to every single ordinary iranian people who has been dealing with these sanctions in Iran in the best possible way and manner !

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Soosan Khanoom,
Let me try to simplify things for you. The majority of the Iranian people are being taken hostage by the Regime and the demand is very simple, "give us $US and Euros in exchange of the oil, or the old lady and the sick will die."

You are saying that let's pay the Regime. I am saying that they will not free the hostages even if you pay them. They will just take more hostages.

The way to deal with this hostage situation is to weaken the hostage takers and finally get rid of them.

You see, this is not too hard to grasp!

faraway

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Truth always is hard to grasp when you are vested in preserving the status quo.

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"Truth is a tool of discourse used to express agreement, to emphasize claims, or to form certain types of generalizations."

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Faraway jan, I have been for sanctions all the way, but there is no denying that when it affects "import" of medicine, my humanitarian side kicks in. It is not a price I want families to pay for goal of regime change.

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dear shepesh: The sanctions are morally bad and unfair but given the regime's ideological goals and behavior is the best possible solution in the long run. It's less costly than a pre-preemptive war or a war provoked by the regime itself. We don't live in an ideal world. I wish we did.

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ghourbagheh

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Because the monarchists and their selected sources say so! By the way, this is what the future secular monarchy in Iran will be like. What the regime says is true, IS true. And, you're an idiot or traitor if you do not agree.

faraway, faramarz, fred, etc.: "How many fingers are we holding up?"

Iranians: "Four. We suppose there are four. We would see five if we could. We're trying to see five".

faraway, faramarz, fred: "Dial the machine up another notch!"

SoosanKhanoom

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نماینده ارشد یک شرکت دارویی معتبر ایران به گروه تحقیق ما گفت که به یک بانک فرانسوی در پاریس مراجعه کرده و مدارک لازم را ارائه کرده مبنی بر اینکه انتقال محموله واکسن به ایران کاملا قانونی است، اینطور جواب گرفته: «حتی اگر از خود رییس جمهور فرانسه هم نامه ای بیاورید که بگوید با این معامله موافق است، ما این ریسک را نمی کنیم.» امروز فقط یک بانک بین المللی - در ترکیه - حاضر است این ریسک را بپذیرد. به زبان ساده حتی وقتی ایران بتواند دلار یا یورو لازم برای خرید مواد دارویی را به دست بیاورد، هنوز نمی تواند یک مسیر بانکی پیدا کند که این معامله را انجام دهد.

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James Dobbins:



"I think it's important to understand that sanctions have a lot of utility quite beyond the degree to which they affect Iranian policy ( re: meaning the nuclear policy). First of all, they affect Iranian capacity. They limit Iran's capacity to get nuclear technology. They limit Iran's capacity to get civil -- to get conventional military technology. They weaken Iran's capacity to project influence in the region. So, quite aside from whether they change their policy on nuclear, they definitely are a very effective way of restraining Iranian influence, mostly pernicious, in its immediate region.

They're also an objective lesson to other countries that might be considering violating the NPT and developing nuclear weapons despite their formal agreement not to do so. So even if they don't work with Iran, to the degree they discourage Saudi Arabia or Egypt or South Korea or Japan from going down that same road, they also serve some utility.

They probably have some marginal effect on Iranian willingness to negotiate under current..."

The quote is from the transcript indicating that sanctions are not just for the nuclear impass but for to contain the regime's overall behavior and policies beside the nuclear issue."
http://www.cfr.org/iran/presidential-inbox-irans-nuclear-program/p30175

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Slow down Soosan Khanoom,! Go set your clock forward one hour and stop screaming for heaven sake!

SoosanKhanoom

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Faramarz, what do you think about BiBI? I already know what do you think about VF ... no need to deviate then !

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I don't think about Bibi Soosan Khanoom. I care about Iran instead.

SoosanKhanoom

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Of course you would deviate ! What was I thinking? You are either scared to say something or you are a supporter ... Le us hope that you are not a supporter... then for sure you are just scared to even criticize him.! BiBI is related to Iran these days even more than Iran being related to Iran ... BiiBi is number one voice on the entire universe even among the Israelis themselves who screams bomb Iran 24/ 7 and yet here you are, an Iranian , who do not even think about BiBI and the bull shits that he spread by his supporters on this site !

.OH .... I got it ... I almost forget the " Host " and the mindless bodies ! go and watch it ... it is good for you !

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Bibi is the scarecrow that you warmongers have created to justify your support for this evil Regime. If Bibi was the master of the universe, why can't he even win a simple majority in his own country!

Stop pulling your hair and join the battle against the Regime. The train is leaving the station and you are not on it.

SoosanKhanoom

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Faramarz,
Get on the line if you want to insult and accuse me !
There are many standing there on front of you!
Be patient !
I only accept insults that have not been bestowed upon me yet !

Please be original and avoid repetition !

Many thanks for your participation !

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Talking about warmongering, James Dobbins in that discussion says categorically that there will be no war against Iran and one the reason he states is not because of nuclear proliferation or even the cost of the war. Here is the reason:

"You know, the president has said, we're not for containment of Iran. That's kind of a silly statement. Our policy has been containment of Iran since 1979. Iran tries to subvert, overthrow and threaten all of its neighbors, not just Israel but lots of them, and we try to prevent them. That's called containment.

What he really means is, he's not for deterrence. In other words, he's for pre-emption rather than deterrence.

But I think that if you're worried about Iranian influence -- and nobody's worried about Iran invading and overthrowing their governments. It hasn't done it for several hundred years. It's not equipped to do it. What they're worried about is that an Iran with a bomb would have more prestige, more influence and be capable of more subversion, more support for terrorism.

But I think you have to ask the question in terms of the Middle East polity. Which Iran has more influence: an Iran that has suffered an unprovoked attack by the United States or an Iran that has a nuclear weapon? I think it's the first of those that actually would gain an influence with neighboring populations."

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what does bibi have to do with this?? You might not be Niloufar Parsi but your concerns are identical. She was also related to IRGC or had some close relatives at IRGC...

SoosanKhanoom

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ALSO related to sepha? ... are you suggesting that i am ?

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NO, I am not suggesting that you are. I was just giving information that she divulged in one her comments on the old IDC.

SoosanKhanoom

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Shepesh,

Thanks for the link and thanks for much needed presence of people like you on who have common sense .


Here is the full txt !


Iran unable to get life-saving drugs due to international sanctions
Western measures targeting Tehran's nuclear program have impeded trade of medicines for illnesses such as cancer




A pharmacist in central Tehran: pharmaceutical firms have been refusing to sell Iran medicines due to difficulties in receiving payments caused by the ongoing economic embargo.

Hundreds of thousands of Iranians with serious illnesses have been put at imminent risk by the unintended consequences of international sanctions, which have led to dire shortages of life-saving medicines such as chemotherapy drugs for cancer and bloodclotting agents for haemophiliacs.

Western governments have built waivers into the sanctions regime – aimed at persuading Tehran to curb its nuclear programme – in an effort to ensure that essential medicines get through, but those waivers are not functioning, as they conflict with blanket restrictions on banking, as well as bans on "dual-use" chemicals which might have a military application.

"Sometimes companies agree to sell us drugs but we have no way of paying them. On one occasion, our money was in the bank for four months but the transfer repeatedly got rejected," Naser Naghdi, the director general of Darou Pakhsh, the country's biggest pharmaceutical company, told the Guardian, in a telephone interview from Tehran.

"There are patients for whom a medicine is the different between life and death. What is the world doing about this? Are Britain, Germany, and France thinking about what they are doing? If you have cancer and you can't find your chemotherapy drug, your death will come soon. It is as simple as that."

European officials are aware of the potential for disaster reminiscent of the debacle of the UN oil-for-food programme imposed on Iraq under Saddam Hussein, and discussions are under way in Brussels on how to strengthen safeguards for at-risk Iranians. The US treasury says its office of foreign asset control is seeking to reassure banks that they will not be penalised for financing humanitarian sales.

However, the US and EU bans on doing business with the major Iranian financial institutions still make such transactions extremely difficult and risk-averse western companies have tended to avoid them.

Naghdi, the head of Darou Pakhsh, which supplies about a third of Iran's pharmaceutical needs, said he can no longer buy medical equipment such as autoclaves (sterilising machines), essential for the production of many drugs, and that some of the biggest western pharmaceutical companies refuse to have anything to do with Iran.

"The west lies when it says it hasn't imposed sanctions on our medical sector. Many medical firms have sanctioned us," Naghdi said.

A senior British official acknowledged that discussions between London, Brussels and Washington had been going on for months with the aim of unblocking the supply of medicines, but without a decisive outcome. "The problem is that for some of the big pharmaceutical companies and banks it's just not worth the hassle and the risk of reputational damage, so they just steer clear," the official said.

The international financial sanctions and the EU oil embargo last year have caused severe damage to the Iranian economy but have so far not forced the Tehran regime to accept restrictions on its uranium enrichment programme. Iran insists it is for electricity generation and medical purposes, while the west and Israel claim it is a front for Iranian ambitions to build nuclear weapons. Major western powers have suggested a new round of talks in Istanbul in mid-January, but Tehran has yet to confirm any date or venue.

Meanwhile, the scale of the looming Iranian health crisis threatens to overwhelm recent efforts to mitigate the sanctions regime. At present 85,000 new cancer patients are diagnosed each year, requiring chemotherapy and radiotherapy which are now scarce. Iranian health experts say that annual figure has nearly doubled in five years, referring to a "cancer tsunami" most likely caused by air, water and soil pollution and possibly cheap low-quality imported food and other products.

In addition, there are over 8,000 haemophiliacs who are finding it harder to get blood clotting agents. Operations on haemophiliacs have been virtually suspended because of the risks created by the shortages. An estimated 23,000 Iranians with HIV/Aids have had their access to the drugs they need to keep them alive severely restricted. The society representing the 8,000 Iranians suffering from thalassaemia, an inherited blood disorder, has said its members are beginning to die because of a lack of an essential drug, deferoxamine, used to control the iron content in the blood.

In the absence of an official supply, the drug market is being flooded with smuggled products. Many arrive on donkeys from Turkey, but there is no way of knowing which products are counterfeit and which are real. The drugs routinely spoil on the long, precarious journey over the rugged frontier. A drugs bazaar has boomed on Tehran's Naser Khosrow Street, but prices have doubled in a few years and the provenance and authenticity of the medicines on sale are questionable.

US and European governments put the blame squarely on the Tehran regime. "Financial sanctions against Iran are in place because of the Iranian government's refusal to address the international community's well-founded concerns about its nuclear programme," said John Sullivan, a US treasury spokesman. "If there is in fact a shortage of some medicines in Iran, it is due to choices made by the Iranian government, not the US government."

Last month, Iran's health minister, Marzieh Vahid Dastjerdi, was sacked for complaining that her ministry had only received a quarter of the £1.5bn allocated for the imports of medicine, noting that foreign currency at a subsidised official rate had been spent on imported luxury cars.

In London, the Foreign Office said: "There are a number of explicit exemptions within EU sanctions to allow Iran to purchase humanitarian goods such as medicines. The UK issues, as a priority, licenses for transactions for humanitarian goods. The responsibility for any shortage in humanitarian goods in Iran lies with the Iranian regime."

Siamak Namazi, an Iranian-American business consultant based in Dubai, argues the regime's own shortcomings may well exacerbate the acute medical problems in Iran but are not their direct cause. "There is a lot of government mismanagement that is compounding the problem. But Iran had the same government before and there was plenty of medicines around. This is not a chicken-and-egg situation. The shortages have come after the sanctions," said Namazi.

One of the unintended consequences of sanctions on the health sector is that they have strengthened companies linked to the regime and the Revolutionary Guards at the expense of the private sector, because of their privileged access to hard currency at the official rate. In some cases, those regime-connected firms are actually using their access to cheap foreign currency to acquire drugs cheaply and smuggle them into Iraq, deepening the crisis.

SoosanKhanoom

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NO TO ANY SANCTION. I have said it before and I say it again that sanction is an act of war imposed by Israel on Iran ! Yes, let us cut the middle man . the Obama ....

Yes this site has been turned to one propaganda place for Israel. Of course there are always mindless bodies who commnets too !

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There is plenty of medicine available in Iran but Sepah is in control of who gets it and who suffers from the lack of it. Today in Iran there are different categories of citizens and at the top of which are "citizens with benefits"! This piece of propaganda by Namazi that Soosan Khanoom has chosen to re-print is only aimed at promoting business with the Regime for the benefit of its lobbyists.

Here is an excellent, short discussion about the medicine situation in Iran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ517Vi3XGc

SoosanKhanoom

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2+2=4

"آخه مشکل مریض و دارو در کشورمان که دیگه سیاسی نیست!"

Mr. Namazi probably has no idea who Fred is and whose agenda Fred supports otherwise he would not be wasting his precious time on him. Everything Fred posts is politically motivated. RIght Wing Netanyahu / Daniel Pipes !

I am happy that Mr. Namazi has chosen to allow no comment there ... There is nothing you guys can offer there that has not been mentioned before. ENOUGH IS ENOIGH !

I am also very happy that Mr. Namazi chose to blog ... at least people like me and many other silent readers on this site will get a chance to appreciate him and his efforts on these issues much more now !