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Essay on Voluntary Servitude

Balatarin

 

The essay asserts that tyrants have power because the people give it to them

By advocating a solution of simply refusing to support the tyrant, he became one of the earliest advocates of civil disobedience and nonviolent resistance. Lew Rockwell summarizes La Boétie’s political philosophy as follows:
To him, the great mystery of politics was obedience to rulers. Why in the world do people agree to be looted and otherwise oppressed by government overlords? It is not just fear, Boetie explains in “The Discourse on Voluntary Servitude,” for our consent is required. And that consent can be non-violently withdrawn.

 

A conversation between @DavidET  and @trawetsdor  about simply refusing to buy tickets to attend soccer games as withdrawal of the "consent",  made me think of the relevance of La Boetie's essay.    Link to the essay by Etienne de la Boetie is attached below.  

 

http://mises.org/rothbard/boetie.pdf

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SamSamVI

SamSam VI Path of Kiaan Ressurection of true Iran Hoisting Drafsheh Kaviaan

ایرانیان بهترین تماشاگران دنیا

تو روز روشن نارنجک و ترقه میزنن به ارامگاه بزرگترین سمبل ایرانیت اره همون کورش «بزرگمون» رو میگم و اب از اب تکون نمیخوره بجز تماشا. جلو رومون دخترا رو تو خیابون میگیرن به زور میبرن کمیته ولی اینا هنوز تماشا..جوونا رو تو روز روشن از جرالصغیل اویزون و همه میرن تماشا...نیمی از ملت رو از استادیومهای کشور اخراج کردن و نیمه دگر هنوز میرن تماشا... شیخه در نماز جمعه تو روز روشن میگه شما ملت الاغ و گوسفندید و ما شبان و ملت گله گله میره به تماشاش و پشت کونش سجده ...که سپاسگزاریم بععع بعععع..

faraway

faraway

Excellent blog that needs much further discussion.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Hi Faraway jaan, outside of the essay presented here and in terms of forms of resistance I was often impressed by options our very own Mr. Mostofi used to offer. Of course I do not believe in Astrology but when Khatami had asked people to start walking to the Bazaar one day, Mr. Mostofi was suggesting that instead people should stay in their houses for a day or two or longer. He actually had some interesting thoughts. Anyway a bit of free association here.

faraway

faraway

At this point, we need all the non-violent resistance actions we need. The larger the pool, the better. I also think there is another way of approaching our national conundrum. A while back, I posted a survey on iroon.com asking this question:

Iran should stop all hostilities with the US and Israel, terrorist activities, and enrichment and start building and diversifying the economy, creating jobs, fighting corruption and plundering of oil revenues, illiteracy, poverty, etc.??

94% of the respondents agreed. I think it is significant point of consensus that we all can galvanize around regardless of our political/ideological leanings. What if Iranians demand the Islamic republic specifically to change its behavior; no regime change or no false choices like reformers vs hardliners arguments to derail the real issues.

I was inspired by reading the success of ACT up in demanding change and mobilizing people. Here is the article:

After watching How To Survive A Plague, Josh Barro identifies why ACT UP was so successful:

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/02/05/how-to-create-actual-change/

Excerpt:
ACT UP activists weren’t just angry about national apathy and inaction on AIDS; they also had specific demands and constructive ideas about how the government and drug companies could do better. Unlike a lot of protest movements, once they got to the stage where the targets of their protests said, “I’m listening. What do you want me to do?” they had concrete answers.

A few things you see ACT UP demanding (and getting) in the movie are: hospital policies that don’t discriminate against AIDS patients; more funding for AIDS research; lower prices for AZT, the first effective anti-AIDS drug; a faster drug approval process, recognizing that 10 years of effectiveness trials didn’t serve the interests of people on the verge of death; and allowing HIV- positive people not enrolled in drug trials to take experimental drugs at their own risk, the so-called parallel track...."

We need to study movements such as this one and model the goals and objective of any future viable homegrown opposition after those principles.

Just my two cents...

Link to My survey: (note: Fired up in iroon.com is faraway in IDC.

http://iroon.com/irtn/survey/501/

Mehrban

Mehrban

Faraway jaan, the first part is like asking a shark to stop swimming. He knows he will die and he will never concede.

benross2

benross2

All Iranian people need is knowing what will come after Islamic regime and supporting it. The rest is semantics. As Prince Reza puts it, all people have to do is to turn the switch off... and they will.

alimostofi

Ali Mostofi Astrology, Current Affairs. Princeton Class of 1981. Iranian.com member since 2005 http://iranian.com/main/member/alimostofi.html http://iranian.com/mostofi.html

Thank you for asking me to comment.

Pretty much right at the beginning of 1979, all these ideas were afoot. What we knew was missing was a network to communicate and be united in the language we used.

The media at the time had been playing their game and their media culture was very South Asian and Biblical.

As such Iranian culture was not regarded as "sacred". Then you had Communist and nihilists in our midst. Many old timers here were part of that. That is why JJ and I don't agree on these matters.

But we found the hard way that Knowrooz and Iran are sacred as it proved itself. Nowadays its culture has united all Iranians. Iran as a cultural apolitical and secular entity has proven itself to be sacred. We all love Iran more than democracy.

Some thought and indeed think that democracy is above Iran. They will change the name of Damavand to whatever was voted for. They are just as disruptive as the religious bigots.

And so the disruptive people had to be recognised and convinced. It has taken a lot of love to bring them on board.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Iran doesn't yet have the same fundamentalist democrats, democratists, that the USA has. As a result of 1979 many Iranians are discovering the importance of learning the definition of words, so when a democratist says any person who is a king is a dictator, people are now smarter and know this is not true. Not only is a King and a Dictator Not the same and People see how a person can be elected democratically in a free and fair election and be a true dictator according to the real definition of the word.

Iranians can see from Carter to Reagan to Bush to Clinton to Bush to Obama, none of these democratically elected Presidents can say they were not Dictators, as they are breaking the laws and criminally using absolute powers to break laws with out discussion that are not with in the rights given to them and for personal benefit at the expense of the country. The evidence is ample as is the impunity to justice for these criminals and the lack of accountability in the democratic system within the USA which is on display for the world.

Intellectuals are seeing how the empire of the USA manages north africa and the middle east. What is fascinating is that many Iranians, who are not intellectuals, are having an awakening away from the media's conditioning and while many nationalities are still very deeply conditioned by the media due to its mis-information role, Iranians are being forced to think a little more, question a little more and learn the meaning behind words by using a dictionary in order to be able to start to use the wisdom they were given, by their creator.

Yet many don't know the issues as you so eloquently pointed out in your above post, the name of the game is divide and rule, and the media will do its job of manufacturing Iranians who put democracy above Iran with the intention of putting Kurdistan above Iran, Azarbaijan above Iran, Baluchestan above Iran, Khorasan above Iran and Fars above Iran, but these are 5 regions that have made up Iran and if Iranians wish to live free from domination they will need to honor Iran first and its peoples welfare, like the late shah did.

Happy New Year Ali

alimostofi

Ali Mostofi Astrology, Current Affairs. Princeton Class of 1981. Iranian.com member since 2005 http://iranian.com/main/member/alimostofi.html http://iranian.com/mostofi.html

Amir

Happy Knowrooz to you.

Thanks for your comment. As we have discussed for so many years, Iran needs a cultural representative in some shape or form, to keep political and religious institutions at bay.

As it stands, our history and traditions set the King as the personification of Iranian culture. He cannot interfere with religion or politics. The King can interfere or call for an emergency government, if the cultural integrity of Iran, is threatened.

The King should be doing this now. He has a mandate to do so. Ironically the previous Shah interfered in politics when he shouldn't have, and the new King is a political idealist.

The new Shah wants a political consensus, before he does anything, even though he has a mandate to act. He doesn't because he is afraid of being called a dictator.

All he has to do is to explain what I have just explain
ed and then get on with it. The other solution is to do what my ancestor did and to step down. But he does neither and everything is in a limbo.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

I agree on some points, but disagree with the conclusions. The current King is doing the best he can, within the context of his real capabilities and interest to stay alive. Had the late shah not intervened politically in 1953 and changed how a king acted, Iran would be no more as it was weak, poor, backwards and being politically dominated. I intentionally put the names of the Iranian Provinces with 2500 years of Iranian history.

Gently cluing people in, to the reality that every single province of Iran, with the exception of fars has been divided already and Iran is being severely divided and ruled as it is. Mossadegh was an act that forced the late king to take a proactive role and he was right to do it, the mistake was the peoples more than his, if they are calling him corrupt, a dictator, a despot, a torturer is it his fault?

After all the late shahs team were accomplishing towards improving Iran and getting her on the quickest path to health, we only saw propaganda and lies about savak etc. in order to perpetuate grave crimes against Iranians. What I liked about your blog was it really pointed out the subject of how the west is using divide and rule in its war against Iran. The west is doing all it can for Iran to have a corrupt and dependent democracy not unlike Nigeria, india or anywhere else the west is mismanaging.

alimostofi

Ali Mostofi Astrology, Current Affairs. Princeton Class of 1981. Iranian.com member since 2005 http://iranian.com/main/member/alimostofi.html http://iranian.com/mostofi.html

Amir

Regarding Mossadegh ol Saltaneh who is related to my family.

Firstly, there was a huge generation gap between him and the young Shah then.

Secondly, the famous election he was supposedly "democratically elected", was actually not as democratic as it seems. Notes on the actual voting pattern show, that 175 members of Majlis abstained. So he was not elected properly.




amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Using his Age and Experience to Betray the King and then not step down as the constitution required makes him the definition of a traitor. The King Being the person in the Country that is after the highest good for the entire country. Why betray a fellow patriot? For More Power is just simple corruption. It was obviously clear the state Iran was in and what Iran was capable of in relation to managing Foreign Domination and Pressure.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

There definitely was a huge GAP, but had nothing to do with generation, rather than family deficiencies in principles, moral turpitude and honesty. Conclusion can easily be reached and are simplified in following statements; they all having been stemmed out from history and factual historical observations: One was honorable, patriotic, dignified, independent thinking and nationalistic; a strong believer in sovereignty of his country and her country’s right to self-determination. He struggled, attempting to free her from the suffocating foreign interference and hegemony, that had paralyzed Iran in the previous 100-150 years. Other one was an unprincipled, unscrupulous coward, and a traitor, who had come from a family of thieves and embezzlers and zero backbone; believing diametrically opposite to the principles that ran through Mossadegh’s body and soul, while occupied his thinking; and then there was M R Pahlavi, the traitor!

PS: see no gaps, only extreme differences in principle, honesty and integrity; having dishonest and inferior genes!

alimostofi

Ali Mostofi Astrology, Current Affairs. Princeton Class of 1981. Iranian.com member since 2005 http://iranian.com/main/member/alimostofi.html http://iranian.com/mostofi.html

PJ

You are pro Mossadegh. It is best for you to just say that first. Below is a little history for you that you may not know.

Hindsight is 20-20.

Steering a giant ship is a hard task. Having said that, simple administrative parliamentary procedures have to be carried out. They were not. I repeat, Mossadegh abused the democratic process.

In terms of foreign power domination the matters are even worse. Mossadegh drove Iran into economic isolation. He did not realize that Iran depended other people for its oil supply chain.

Many politicos do not know the amount of loss of oil market share because Mossadegh's bombastic comments.

In that light he raised the fever and the price of oil such that it became economically viable to drill elsewhere. Iran was one of the main suppliers of oil and thanks to Mossadegh the shopping companies and in particular their customers, namely other nations, were very happy.

Coincidently this is exactly what Khomeini's bombastic comments did. He drove the price of oil up and lost market share.

Khamenei is even worse. And of course all pretend to be nationalistic.

But in the 70s we decided to convert the oil into oil derivatives. My dad founded the National Petrochemical Company. Its revenues speak for themselves. And by the way he did not make bombastic comments.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Let’s assume, for a moment, that you are right, although I am quite skeptical and doubtful. Comparing Mossadegh to M R Pahlavi, the corrupt and embezzling traitor, who do you think had violated more democratic rules and regulations, parliamentary or otherwise, assuming that we are talking about constitutional monarchy???!!

Let me refresh your memory and go back to the Coup of 53 when this traitor sided with the Anglo-American conspirators and against his own nation/people. Don’t forget that without Mossadegh there would not have been any oil revenues to begin with…as Brits have been robbing us blind for hundreds of years, during and past Qajar era, with no objection or outrage from those cowards!

There was a book written by a British author/politician, either in late 60’s or early 70’s. In this book author explains that had it not been for the Iranian, stolen and free oil…British Empire would have folded and collapsed 100, hundred, years earlier than it had.

Mossadegh seemed to have been the only man, Qajar on his mother side, with guts and backbone STRONG enough to have challenged the British and had taken them on. He must have taken after his maternal great grandfather Abbas Mirza, the Crown Prince, and his bravery to have taken them on in order to stop the thievery of our national treasure. We did not see any of that trait, neither in Reza Khan/Shah except his total submission and acceptance, nor his traitor son and worst of them all in Reza Pahlavi the blowhard “Clown” Prince!

Not believing in personality cult(s), but to fight the entrenched Mullahs, Iranians need a Mossadegh like individual who does not back down and have ability to unify the populace, and have GUTS enough to challenge and fight these maggots, if needs be or necessary, not an incompetent and impotent Wussey!

alimostofi

Ali Mostofi Astrology, Current Affairs. Princeton Class of 1981. Iranian.com member since 2005 http://iranian.com/main/member/alimostofi.html http://iranian.com/mostofi.html

PJ

Obviously you have chosen this space to use crude words to describe someone you do not like. I am afraid I can only refer you to http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rez%C4%81_Sh%C4%81h#section_2.

Happy Knowrooz

Samanro

Saman Just Iran and politics.

Whats the point of saying arab this arab that when people still use arab words like vatan instead of mihan, or khalij instead of darya?

Samanro

Saman Just Iran and politics.

In Iran it's the minority of the islamist basij and revolutionary guards pushing the majority around, and until that majority organizes itself and uses violent methods or force to counter the islamists, these mullahs are going nowhere.