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Who is Abbas Milani?

Abbas Milani

Abbas Milani

 

 

Dr. Abass Milani is a descendant of Ayatollah Milani. (Milani means from Milan – a small town in Iran’s Azarbayejan — just as Khomeini means from Khomein). Abass’ maternal uncles held cabinet-level positions during the Shah’s rule.
“Born in Iran in 1949, [Abass] came as a teenager to California, where he completed high school, attended college, and embraced Maoist Marxism. After earning a Ph.D. in political science at the University of Hawaii, he returned to Iran and” and began teaching at the National University of Iran(NUI) in 1974-75 academic year. At the National University of Iran, Dr. Miliani was a close friend of Dr. Manouchehr Ganji – at the time, an adjunct professor at NUI but an advisor to, and confidant of the Queen Farah. [Dr. Ganji was the Minister of Education in the Amouzegar cabinet].
 
Prior to his arrest in 1977, Dr. Milani was Queen Farah’s speech-writer – he wrote speeches that the Queen delivered in English in the Western venues in mid-1970’s on how the Shah had promoted women’s right, human rights, arts, etc., in Iran. At the same time, Dr. Milani portrayed himself as an authentic leftist to the gullible students, in-or-out of class rooms, particularly in the field-trips that were organized and shepherded by him. SAVAK arrested Dr. Milani on return from his last “field trip”, in which he must have over-played his Marxist-Maoist credentials.
 
Shortly after the arrest, Housahang Sabeti, Savak’s chief torturer, had assured Dr. Ganji that Dr Milani was not being mistreated because he had been fully cooperative from the moment of his arrest. (…Az dagigaheh avval bazdasht, Abbas darad ainea bolbol etraff mikonad. Chera shekanjeh?!).
 
Dr. Milani was given a ten-year prison term. Shortly then-after, in a series of articles that were published in the Iranian press, Dr. Milani, in “eloquent” Persian renounced his prior beliefs and ideologies, heaped praise on the Shah’s “White Revolution”, and was certain that Iranians were about to reach the “Gates of the Great Civilization” that the Aryameher had envisioned for them. Dr. Milani, through his writings in English and Persian, prior to-and-after his arrest, had established his talent and credentials to act as “a polished ideologue of the [shah’s] regime”.
 
 Had the Shah’s regime lasted a few more years, Dr. Milani was destined to be released from prison in a year or so, and be given a position commensurate with his talents, credentials, and familial background. This, however, was not to be. The “release of all political prisoners” was among the first demand of the demonstrators that the Shah’s regime was forced to comply with. And, in the mid-1988, Dr. Milani, along with other political prisoners, were released from jail. Ironically, the Islamic Revolution that had freed Dr. Milani from the Shah’s jail, had also put to waste the investments and sacrifices that he had made in establishing his credentials for acting as “a polished ideologue of the [Shah’s] regime”.
Iranian universities were mostly closed in 1978 and early part of 1979. Shortly after the Revolution and the re-opening of the universities, however, Dr. Miliani was able to join the Faculty of Law and Political Science of the University of Tehran. Dr. Milani taught at the University of Tehran until his departure to California in 1986. During this period, Dr. Milani managed to stay out of harm’s way. A couple of such harms that were visited to Dr. Milani’s colleagues are worth mentioning.
First, in the 2nd half of 1979, a number of professors at the Faculty of Law and Political Science of the University of Tehran had signed-off to an open letter that was widely circulated in Iran. In the letter, the signatories had raised alarm against the rumored intention of some clerics to enact and enforce Shariah Law. Some of the signatories of the open letter were made to pay for the indiscretion. Dr. Milani either did not sign the open letter and/or was not made to pay for the discretion.

Second, the “Cultural Revolution” led to a 2-year closure of the Iranian universities and extensive purge of the faculty members in the early 1980s. Particularly targeted were the faculty members that were insufficiently in tune with the Islamic Revolution, had espoused leftist ideologies, or had praised the Shah and collaborated with his regime. Dr. Milani was an ideal candidate for the purges. How did he manage to survive the purges?

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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

His nickname should be the political stunt master, as is explained in this thoughtful rebuttal to his works. "Any comments about the Shah which do not give a single consideration to what American, British and Soviet Union’s interests were and which also fails to give consideration to their common and divergent views, their undercover competitive operations and also the general condition of the Iranian society would be a political stunt by the author, not history, biography or analysis with an academic value." Enjoy the article link. http://www.amiran.com/Sphinx/home.htm?pageone.htm~mainFrame

G.Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian


Omeedvar writes:
"I give him(Dr. Milani) credit for supporting progress made during the Shah in modern Education and economy, now that he has matured and has more experience."

This is too little too late. What happened to Iran as a result of the activities of a bunch of misguided revolutionaries and treachery of some organizations is unforgivable. Iranians have lost their country to the criminal mullahs who have been hellbent on turning it into a backward state.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

I meant to give links to the abridged version and the full version, both are good at opening ones eyes to the illusions this author uses to misinform anti-intellectuals.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

If You want to feel disgust for this author or anti-monarchists in general, then read this abridged version of a response to his book, using his own book.
http://www.amiran.com/Sphinx/home.htm?pageone.htm~mainFrame
Though the longer version is better http://www.amiran.com/Sphinx/home.htm?pageone.htm~mainFrame

omeedvar

omeedvar

Siavash, I think when you wrote " in the mid-1988, Dr. Milani, along with other political prisoners, were released from jail" you meant mid-1978. Also, you wrote, "just as Khomeini means from Khomein". Khomeini adopted Khomeini as his family name, after he came to Iran from India, and started living in Khomein, near Isfahan. His original family name was Hindi Zadeh.

As for the position of Dr. Milani as Professor at young age, at the National University or Tehran University, usually in Iran those who teach at a university as Assistant Professor or Adjunc Professor, are also called Professor by students or everybody else.

Dr. Milani must have been a smart guy who still has kept his position at Stanford University. I give him credit for supporting progress made during the Shah in modern Education and economy, now that he has matured and has more experience.

trawetsdor

trawetsdor

@siavash

سیاوش، در پاستوریزه نگه داشتن این بلاگ بقیه هم بلاگی ها هم همت کردن. در ضمن با یک گل بهار نمیشه. وقتی که به کسی کردیتی داده میشه انتظار میره که آن فرد با دلگرمی بحث را ادامه بده. دمکراسی این نیست که آدم یه چیزی بندازه و ول کنه بره حتی اگه نقل قول از دیگران باشه* . به نوشتن ادامه دادی ولی دیگه در بلاگ «حضور*» نداشتی. به موضع دفاعی افتادی و این مانع «تفکر» میشه هم در خودت و حتی در شنونده (مسری هم هست). به نظر میرسه داری سعی میکنی به خودت اطمینان بدهی که «درست هستم» یا حداقل «اشتباه» نکرده ام. این نوع رفتار بسیار ایرانی است و من هم با شما «هم رفتار» هستم چون من هم یک ایرانی ام. اینجا مسئله نه میلانی است و نه مقوله درست یا اشتباه بودن. اگه قضیه به سیاه و سفید ختم میشد زندگی آسون ترنمیشد ولی آدم تکلیف خودش رو میدانست. دلیل ِ گیجی ِ ما اینه که زندگی برآیند ِ جبرها و اختیارهاست. بدتر ازاینکه نمیدونیم چی جبره و چی اختیار چون ما ایرنیا توی هیچ میدانی دمکراسی رو تمرین نکردیم و صابون مسئولیت هاش به تن مون نخورده. ولی ما یه امتیاز نسبت به پدر و مادرهایمان داریم واون همین بلاگه. والدین ما مسئولیت های خودشون را به دوش ما گذاشتن. نسل من سی و پنج ساله داره کفاره پس میده. درس گرفتیم؟ ما برای نسل بعد چی به ارث میگذاریم؟

*نقل قول از سیاوش در همین بلاگ:
“I just received this listerature from one of my friends. I thought it might be useful to share it on I.C. I don't know him that well”

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Thanks for good observation. We need more people like you in Iran.

Yes dear, we always ran away from our responsibilities and blame others for our shortcomings. Seems it is Iranian thing.
We did revolution in 1979 and blame it on Russia, America, English, France .........and you name it. We never want to accept responsibility for whatever we do.
Anyway, one of my none Iranian friends sent me this article saying that he doesn't trust Milani after reading this article. I thought it would be good to share it with other Iranians to see their point of views.
Indeed I don't know Milani. I have seen him on T.V once in a while since just 2 or 3 years ago. Here is another link I found about him. Please read it carefully.
Seems the article was written by criminal ruling mullahs agents residing in the west. it is against Milani and one of the comment calls him "Charalatn".
Of course, that comment gives Milani credit as far as I am concerned. Therefore, I am not in the position to put judgement on Dr.Milani.
I admire him if he is against criminal ruling mullahs in Iran. I also admire him if he fiights for Free.
Here is the link:
http://goingtotehran.com/the-losers-narrative-expatriates-with-agendas-and-americas-dangerously-distorted-iran-debate-and-a-challenge-to-abbas-milani

trawetsdor

trawetsdor


@siavash, thank you for patience and sorry to be late in replying to your last comment. I appreciate sending the link as well. I have been reading The Leverettes for the past 3 years and Milani for the last decade. I only comment on one of the observations done by and conclusions made by Milani vs. The Leverettes. Could both be right? The answer is YES and this is why:
The Leverettes's observation of Iranians which is sometimes a first hand one is that the Clergy have let middle class enjoy the country's wealth as well . They have been successful in keeping their cronies loyal, and a good chunk of population in status quo, thanks to petrodollars. In spite of the differences in the amount of women's hair exposed both sides of the equation are deep in Shi'a philosophy. To bring a small and superficial example we should remind ourselves of how much we all enjoy that our daughters marry as virgins? The Leverettes see Iranians nagging non-stop but they can't deny that the population is tolerating the regime. USA contributed to the take over of Iran by Mullahs but it is cursed at constantly and has paid more than its fair share for their mistake. So why destabilize Iran by moving population when you can not predict dialect of life? Specially in a population which does not have much representation outside its government. The Leverettes are after US interests and they should be. They are American patriots. I should add that our interests and the American's do not have to be mutually exclusive. We had shared interests in the past.

Milani, on the other hand, believes that under Mulla's nose a new generation has sprung among which exists a bright sub-population who has understood that Iranian-ness and Shia' mindedness are the problem. Their number is low in percentage but considering the seventy some million population a few percent adds up to a million(s). Milani tends to “highlight” the potential of Iranian youth. He, however, believes progress through liberal change rather than a radical one. He, too has seen the result of the catastrophe called 1979 revolution.

I mentioned that both of them could be right; and yes, they are right about what they have observed of Iranians. One relies on the behavior of the older generation and the other highlights the potential of the youth (both age and the freshness of mind). But these are just diagnoses. You can pick either and apply your self-designed treatment. It can even work in a manner of self-fulfilling prophecy. We are in the age of internet and social media. How organized have we used it?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Most of the time Iranians can not be objective because of their emotional involvement in the process. It is too emotional to speak about the future political landscape of Iran. We tend to see what we want to be see.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Thanks everybody for stoping by to leave a comment. This is how we can grow up and differentiate fact from fictious. In a brighter aspect,we are practicing democracy.
I am more concern about those students whom Dr. Milani went on field trip to mountains. How many of them were arrested right after they returned from field trip. Wish any of them could come forward and discuss the situation for public.
After all Dr.Milani was not a good Marxist anyway because he followed the Mao at a young age. The fact that he was not able to differentiate between Mao's theory and principles of Marxism. That makes eveybody think he might not be a good candidate to make a good monarchist either.

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

Really? Do you honestly believe a piece without references or citations amounts to "facts"? And you call the mud slinging below practising deomcracy? I would call it innuendo. I am not any clearer about the good doctor and whether he is the genuine article or not, but given the vehemence and lack of respect for basic decency, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"you call the mud slinging below practising deomcracy?" Mr. Fozolie

We call it "practicing democracy" because of the comment made by user name "trawetsdor" as this:

سیاوش، گر چه با گزارشاتت نمیتونم موافق باشم باید بهت کردیت داد که تونستی بلاگی راه بندازی که در آن فحشهای خواهر مادر رد و بدل نشد

For the above reason and the fact that people were able to tolerate other's opinion, it may call "practicing democracy".
It was an overview or journery into the life of a person who appears on a T.V talk show once in a while. A man who expresses his ideas about future political landscaping of Iran. We were able to check his views along with his life style from different angles. What is wrong with that?
Everybody is welcome to challenge the blog and express his/her opinion. We love to hear more from different people.

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

I am sorry but I have not come to any conclusions about Dr Milani other than there is an effort but those who know the difference between "Maoist and Marxist principles" to seek revenge on him. Very poor attempt to hide your real agenda and in defence of a discredited ideology. I don't think anyone is fooled now. Thanks for your illuminating summary.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"Very poor attempt to hide your real agenda....." Mr. Fozolie

Now, sounds like a paranoid ideation. Belowing out of proportion without any rational bases.

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

Funny same applies to the blog and the unsupported accusations about the good Doctor. I hope you now understand my point about innuendo.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Of course I understand your view, but you have to remember this is "free country". Anyone is allowed to express his/her point of view. If Milani wants to fight with whoever is against him he will come short in time. Here is another link. Please read the comments very carefully. One of the commentators call him "Charlatan". What about that? Should Milani hire an attorney to close any voice againt him? No, that is not what democracy is all about.

http://goingtotehran.com/the-losers-narrative-expatriates-with-agendas-and-americas-dangerously-distorted-iran-debate-and-a-challenge-to-abbas-milani

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

You are so wrong my friend. That is not democracy. That is chaos. Just because he is not going to challenge it or because there are no checks and balances on the Internet doesn't make it right morally or legally. And we are seeing people challenge when they libelled.

One of the main reasons the brief periods of democracy have failed in Iran and turned to chaos has been the lack of appropriate laws against slander. They carried it to such extremes that everyone's reputation was left in tatters.

Anyway it is obvious we are not going to agree and I will end up repeating myself. Your piece did not help me understand this guy any better. All I learnt was that he has made himself a lot of enemies who seem to be organizing a campaign to defame him.


Shirzadegan

Siavash

"...... turned to chaos has been the lack of appropriate laws against slander" Mr. Fozolie

I hear that word "slander" in persian community more often than any other places. What is slander?
Slander means an intentionally false spoken report, story, etc, which unfairly damages the good opinion held about a person by others.
It is personal matter of intentional grudge against certain individual. To make an effort to get even with other person because of their past experience or their past relationship. In order to understand "slandering" please ask yourself the following questions:
Does the writer of the above article knows Milani on personal level? NO
Does the user names who calls Millani "Charlatan" know him on personal level.? NO
Do these people have any business transaction with Milani? A business transaction whom they think they were being cheated or deceived by Milani? NO
Do these people have been harmed in any way financially, sexually, or anything you think of by Milani? NO.
if the answer to all the above is "NO" we can conclude these people must be sick because they're trying to damage Milani personal image in the public. Trying to damage someone's image who didn't do any harm to them. But we all know that is NOT the case. it is the matter of democracy.
Bill Maher calls George Bush many time as an "idiot" on T.V talk show. He was NOT slandering Bush because he doesn't know him on "personal level". He knows him on "social level" and that makes a different between character analysis rather than slandering. That convery the ture feeling of democarcy to the public.

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

You keep using "democracy" as a shield or an instrument to shut your opponent up. I explained to you with democracy comes certain responsibilities. The answers to some of your questions is not such emphatic no. Frankly there is no point in continuing this debate. I have already given my view of your post so I would just be repeating myself.

Shirzadegan

Siavash


"You keep using "democracy" as a shield or an instrument to shut your opponent up" Mr. Fozolie

I hope I am not doing that because it would be UNdemocratic. Wouldn't be?
Now, let me summurize what we were talking here. I am saying "Public figures" are required "Public scrutiny".
We have 2 level of communication with each other.
A. Personal level
B. Social level
Our communication with "public political figures" are in"social level" NOT "personal". It can rang from praising the public figure such as what Faramarz @faramarz did in his comment and praised Milani, to P_J. who denounced Milani. Their comments are both act of "practicing democracy".
This is not meant to shut you up, please.
If any of these people such as Faramarz or P-J had any personal interest in praising or bad mouthing Milani you have right to say "Slandering".
Now, let's ask these questions:
Does Faramarz receive any benefits by admiring Milani? I hope NOT.
Does P_J receive any benefits by bad mouthing Milani? Again I hope NOT. If you ask me the above question, I would say none of them get any benefit to praise or bad mouth Milani. They're just giving their opinions.
What make us to shut one off and let the other one talk? why? Don't you think it is against democracy to shut one person off and let the only one voice to be heard?
These people don't know Milani in "persoanl level". They know him based on this work and what he was saying "PUBLICALLY". Now, it is possible that you feel the words and false statements are able to change people's prospective about Milani or any other public figures. No my dear. People have to be enough intelligent to use their own judgment and discern between false from fictious. If they are not in the position to distinguish false from fictious, therefore, we are not ready for democracy.
Hope I was able to explain my point of view clearly.


fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

This is not a scrutiny. At first I thought it was and it soon became veyr clear that it was not. It is character assassination and defamation because there are no facts here just baseless accusations and I keep repeating but it is obviously fallen on deaf ears, just innuendo, no reference, no citation, just heresay. I never suggested to shut anyone off. What I said is that you are using democracy and some nice words about scrutiny to defend something which is clearly wrong. The errors in your post have been pointed out to you and I have not seen you make any attempt to rectify it. It is obvious that we are not going to agree and further debate is pointless.This is a sham and it has been exposed as a sham.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"The errors in your post have been pointed out to you and I have not seen you make any attempt to rectify it" Mr. Fozolie

Yes, I agee there were some mistakes in the blog because it was written without citing the source or without refereing to the fact. As you mentioned it was hearsay. I am sorry for that. it was a mistake.
Sincerely,
Siavash

fozolie

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fozolie

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fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

No sir, it is politics by innuendo and if the owner had any sense he would have your slanderous blog deleted for the reasons Borzoo mentioned which could very easily be challenged under defamation laws if Dr Milani or his representatives were to make a complaint.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

For the record you seem to be big on opposing "politics by innuendo", so let me say plainly that your views are hypocritical, because you are in the process backing a genuine doctor who's own books are a testimony of his use of village gossip and lies to make a point. Not that you are even aware of who's work you are supporting, at least take a few moments to read intelligent responses to your idols work, who is the mother of politics by innuendo. http://www.amiran.com/Sphinx/home.htm?pageone.htm~mainFrame



fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

I repeat as I did in the beginning I was not defending this guy. I was originally hoping to find out more about him and this piece was very disappointing. To me Milani (and I am being kind here) seems to copy others' material and pass it as his own. I am not interested in polemics, neither am I intimidated by it. I will have a look at your link.

fozolie

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trawetsdor

trawetsdor

@siavash
سیاوش، گر چه با گزارشاتت نمیتونم موافق باشم باید بهت کردیت داد که تونستی بلاگی راه بندازی که در آن فحشهای خواهر مادر رد و بدل نشد. وقتی این بلاگ رو خوندم از یک طرف سورپریز شدم و از طرف دیگه احساس خوبی بهم دست داد. معمولا وقتی بحث به این جا میرسه دستگاه تناسلی نسوان مورد حمله قرار میگیره. شاید میلانی تونسته با سلوکش یه درسی برای هممون باشه.

Borzoo

Borzoo

"There was this Shah-era general, who was siding with Mossadegh once, but then became Bahai and moved him fortune to Argentine after the Revolution"
I heard someone say, in a party once. Mr. Expert-on-Iran had confused General Ayadi(Shah's personal physician) with General Gharani (the Mossadeghi General who was assassinated shortly after the Revolution), and with Hojabr Yazdani (Shah's era capitalist who moved to Costa Rica), and had confused Costa Rica with Argentine!

I hear people confuse names, dates, positions and events, and insist on presenting them as facts all the time.

This article talks about "Housahang Sabeti, Savak’s chief torturer". Who the hell is Houshang Sabeti, SAVAK's chief torturer? Do you mean Parviz Sabeti, the SAVAK's number 2 man?


No research, no references, no citations, no reliable facts; otherwise GREAT ARTICLE!

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

Iranian tradition is politics by innuendo and slander.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Village gossip is what you are referring to, what a disaster piece for the credibility of the author.

Iranboy

Iranboy Hamid

من طرفدار میلانی نیستم. ولی‌ این که بعضی‌ از دوستان میگن معلوم نیست طرفدار چی‌ هست نشان دهنده این هست که آقای میلانی با ذهنیتی علمی‌ به برسی‌ مسائل می‌پردازد. چون ذهنیت ایرانی‌ سیاه و سفید هست و نمی‌تونه قبول کنه یه نفر بی‌ طرف به برسی‌ مسائل بپردازه

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

But, NOT when you simultaneously believe in communist doctrine and are a diehard capitalist. That is called diversion and opportunism, Akhoond like! You can believe in socialism; a mild version of communism, but only an opportunistic chameleon covers all the corners, and I am not saying that Milani is or is not, just an example to clarify myself. Furthermore, if you are a Shahollahi you must be a staunch supporter of Hezbollah/Khomeini/Khamenei, since you basically believe in the same type of governance, tyranny!

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

From what I have seen Mr. Milani has been all over the map, from Left to Right and in sometimes in the Middle. That is fine when you are a journalist, but he is not. He has been quite slippery, possibly, positioning himself for future. He is not a professor per se; becoming a teaching staff at Stanford is not an easy task!

PS: Outing public figures, and learning more about them, is not personality assassination I wish that Iranians knew more about Khomeini and his core beliefs!

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

Very good thought at the end. The problem with 'outing' Iranian style is what is that we have have a very poor record differentiating critical examination and slander.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Any examination of these egomaniacs is better than none! Since their continuous flip flops are highly suspicious and worth more background check! With what I have seen here. You should listen 100 times more than speaking out, and learn not to spew out CRAP!

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

Firstly if you want to be listened too, stop shouting. Secondly any crap comes out of your keyboard and any crap are your ill considered Fatwas. As far as I can see this is nothing but a mud slinging defamatory exercise. I recommend you take your ab zereshk and prozac to calm down before you do yourself serious damage.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Fozolie, or whatever the HELL your many pen names are.

Stop hiding behind your IDIOTIC and nonsensical cover and start thinking that a simpleton can't hide his true Shahollahi/Hezbollah identity for long and not be discovered! Also, remember that in your case neither a ton of zereshk nor Prozac could do you much good. It is in the IQ department, and your torturous Fozolie/diatribes.

Persa

Persa این نیز بگذرد

همین سر انگشتی هم حساب کنیم، همه تعاریف در مورد عباس آقا شد بجز اینکه ایشون باید خیلی هم مخ باشه! خب 1949 بدنیا آمد و تا دیپلم گرفت و از قرار سربازی هم نرفت و برای تحصیل رفت هاوایی و دری به تخته خورد و دکتراش را هم گرفت و برگشت تهران و از سال 1974 شروع کرد به تدریس در دانشگاه ملی ایران! یعنی ایشان در سن 25 سالگی استاد دانشگاه ملی ایران شد؟ اونایی که سنشون اجازه میده و یادشونه که دانشگاه ملی و دانشگاه تهران و آریامهر به اون آسونی ها کسی را استاد نمیکردند مگر آنکه دایی جانشان وکیل مجلس بوده و سبیل این و آن را چرب کرد. من اختلاف نظر بخصوصی با عباس آقا ندارم و به آنهایی که او را بالاترین میخوانند هم اعتراضی ندارم، ولی این بابا با اون دایی وکیلش احتمالا خیلی دانشجوهای دانشگاه ملی را به بدبختی کشاند. من کاملا در صلاحیت ایشان در 1974 برای اشتغال به شغل استادی در دانشگاه ملی شک دارم و بهیچوجه قانع نمیشوم که ایشان تجربیات لازم را در هاوایی چگونه بدست آورد. این چند سال هم هرچه از او خواندیم و شنیدیم یکمشت لاطائلات خسته کننده توام با جملات نجویده و برخی جویده بوده و در لفافه و بسیار در محافظه کارانه برای حفظ شغل دانشگاهی فعلی. کوچکترین مطلبی از او نخواندم و نشنیدم که بتواند جنبش فکری ایجاد کند و فقط بلد است بگوید "بگمان من". ببخشید ولی اینها دیگر نمیتوانند توی کت (فتحه کاف) بچه های قدیم بکنند و فقط نسل امروز را ممکن است قانع کنند. باقی بقایت

Zendanian

Zendanian An injury to one is an injury to all.

فردید بدون نبشتن حتا یک مقاله ارتقا پیدا میکنه به "استاد فلسفه"، سن پایین و بی تجربگی که دیگه هیچ.
میلانی جوان دوران "محاصره شهر از طریق روستا ها"، با میلانی متاخر امروزی بسیار تفاوت دارد.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Don’t forget where this guy is…Hoover Institute, one of the bastions of Right wing ideology like Heritage Foundation! These folks are in business to make money however they can…morality and principle does not enter that equation. They are also for absolute rulers like kings, Shahs and other stooge dictators like M R Pahlavi, the traitor, or other Persian Gulf Sheikdoms, so long as they can be robbed.

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

Can you explain a bit more about his uncle and what was done to the students please? Otherwise it sounds like slander.

Persa

Persa این نیز بگذرد

اسلندر؟ عباس آقا خودش رب النوع اسلندره اونم از نوع دوازده سیلندر فقط عشوه میاد. ما تو همین ایرانیان دات کام مخ داریم ده تای عباس آقا. بیخودی افراد گمنام را بزرگ نکنید چون یک دکترا گرفتن. الان هفتاد درصد ایرانیانی که تو آمریکا در کار فروش املاک و مستقلات هستند عنوان "دکتر" دارند. شما به تبلیغات روزنامه های فارسی نگاه کنید. چیزی که زیاد است دکتر است ولی کو آن انسانهایی که با هموطنشان از واقعیت ها صحبت کنند. دانشجویان دانشگاه ملی یه بچه 25 ساله رو به آبداری هم قبول نداشتن چه برسه به استادی. مگه اینکه به شوخی داد میزدن استاد..استاد واسه برنامه کرکر خنده

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

Okay I can only conclude your accusations are not true defamatory and not worth wasting my time.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

I could not agree with you more! Hawaiian universities are not known for their scholarships, and the fact that Stanford does not take him in as Professor or even a lecturer says it all. As I said before he is too slippery, Akhoond like, one day he comes across as a Shahollahi and next he sides with Akhoonds and from time to time he admires Mossadegh covering all corners, chameleon like, possibly, positioning himself for future.

Iranboy

Iranboy Hamid

جناب بچه قدیم که خیلی‌ احساس باحالی‌ میکنی‌ الان،



این جوونای قدیم که گند زدن. کت این دوستان هم (فتح کاف رو میگم) خیلی‌ گشاد بود، چون حسابی‌ رفت توش و نتیجه شد این چیزی که الان می‌بینید.... ایرانی‌ جماعت عادت داره بر اساسه شایعات نتیجه گیری کنه و تصمیم بگیره... بعد از سی‌ سال بگهِ من نبودم دستم.. بود تقصیر آستینم بود

Persa

Persa این نیز بگذرد

ایران بوی، پسر جان، همان بچه های قدیم دارند چرخهای صنایع آمریکا و اروپا و خود ایران را میگردانند، وگرنه بچه های امروز که اکثرشان دنبال مصرف مشروبات قاچاق از عراق هستند و مواد افغانستان و تدریس فینگلیسی در اینترنت. همین جمله رفت توش رو که مصرف کردی از نمونه سبک جمله های عباس آقاست "بگمان ایشان

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

You are not making any sense! Think before spewing CRAP out!

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie Leaving Iranian owing to the unashamed censorship. This site is no longer representative of Iranians.

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