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Egyptian female activists fight Sharia Law in Stockholm!

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 عالیه المهدی وبلاگنویس جنجالی مصری که پیشتر عکسهای برهنه خودش رو در اعتراض به قوانین نابرابر مصر علیه زنان در وبلاگش منتشر کرده بود. حالا در حرکتی نمادین همراه با دو تن از فعالان حقوق زنان در سرمای منهای ۷ درجه در استکلهم لخت شدند و نفرت خودشون رو از حکومت اسلامگرایی محمد مرسی در مصر به نمایش گذاشتند.

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Mehrban

Mehrban

I just read that Government of Qatar gave 20 billion dollars to Egypt's Akhvan al moslemin. As far as I know Qatar is a US ally.

faraway

faraway

The problem is that Akhavan al Moslemin (Islamist brotherhood) is a natural US ally in the eyes of those who crafted US foreign policies in the ME for the last 33 years. The Islamist clergy complex having the power to mass mobilize/organize and mass brainwash the vast majority of illiterate and religious population can easily be manipulated to do the bidding of the "arrogant powers" without them even knowing it. Why make alliances with secular forces where they really don't have the power infrastructure and institutions to herd the sheeple.

Azadeh..Azad

Dr.Azadeh.Azad http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/azadeh-azad

Dear Susann Khanoom:

What you are expressing is on the mind of many people who support the cause of Secularity and Democracy. It is complex and will remain an open question for a long time. My answer to this questioning is the following:

1) Women's bodies have been, and will be, one the most important themes of patriarchy and Islamic Fundamentalism. Responding to the Muslim Fundamentalists by wearing covered clothing, just a bit less covered than veil, will only show respect for the Fundamentalists' opinion regarding the ability of women themselves to choose their own clothing. It will show that women are compromising with these backward people.

2) If women go to work and school and shopping centre being nude, I agree that it would be an extreme measure against the Veil that is used on a daily basis. But this is not the case.

3) As women's (and to a lesser degree men's) nudity is forbidden under the menace of being tortured and killed, then it is not extremism, IMO, to use nudity occasionally for its "shock value (not for the Swedes, of course) for the majority of the population of the world.

4. Besides it shock value and effectiveness, public nudity plays a role in the process of demonstrating the normality of nudity and separating it from sexuality in the minds of the observers. A body, male or female, is NOT reduced to its sexual function, one of its many.

5. You are wondering if there is really a place for the moderate people of the earth. These moderate people, who love to satisfy adherents to all kinds of ideology in order to be safe, are called the SILENT MAJORITY of those who make concessions to their enemies.

6. And you add whether there will be a "constant shift between covering one's face and uncovering one's butt?" Free-thinking women or feminists are not in favour of women showing their butts during their daily public activities, while Fundamentalist women are for covering the faces during their daily public activities. So, I don’t see any CONSTANT SHIFT between covering the face and uncovering the butts. Women do not want to uncover their butts. This is a demonstration, a Performance Act, which carries a political message against the SHARIA LAW and not for "Letting women show their butts everywhere to oppose veiling!"

In many other cases, for instance in British Columbia, when people (male and female) want to show their opposition to knocking down the old Growth (the 3000 old trees), they all get naked (men and women) for attracting people’s attention.

I think I said enough (got tired of writing fast :-)). And I hope I was able to put my P.O.V. across .

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

I agree with many things you mentioned Azad jan ....and for that i should say well said ..indeed ..

When I was a student at U of M there was this yearly student naked thingy going on in AnnArbor ...almost everyone riding bikes naked ! It seemed to be very routine and normal ... Not a big deal ! I agree Nudity sometimes is separated from sexuality but that also depends where and in which society! We are not dealing with the societies that have gone through Renaissance ... so we can not act like European in in those countries and expect the desired result.

It is like being a good speaker .. the number one rule in the art of speech is to know your audience !

I do not think so nudity can have the same effect when one wants to demonstrate forced Hejab.. I actually think it will backfire ! It gives more alibi and it really shuts the moderate voices up !

You brought a good point and that is the silent majority. I strongly believe that the silent majority should become outspoken majority and take it to the streets of Egypt ( both women with and without veils) to demand freedom of choice ... if that ever happens then it will be 100 times more effective.

The problem is most women with hejab do not think right and most women without Hejab do not care much ! Then we end up with silent majority !

Perhaps, desperate times requires desperate measures .. may be then to get naked is all one can do to express the anger and the frustration ... but the real question is : does it work ?


my 2 cents

Thanks for the wonderful discussion !

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

I don't know if this helps the cause or hurts it. I just hope Sharia law does not become law of Egypt and instead they have a civil law.

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

Does one need to go to such an extreme to oppose something? Is this not what their opponents have in their mind when they force women to cover?
Sometimes, I wonder, if there is really any place for the moderate people on earth? Or is it going to be a constant shift between covering one's face and uncovering one's butt?

DavidET

DAVIDET

I doubt if they had not gone to the extreme they would have made the news.

mousa67

mousa67 offering free psychotherapy sessions to those suffering from potentialy suicidal mental condition known as "islamism"

Kudos to these three young ladies for daring to challeng the islamic shariat, knowing the obvious risks, even in west.
Those who moan about this from behind an internet user ID, would not raise their voice at the site of three bearded semi naked shiat savages beating their chest with chains for that arab looter and rapist of iranian people, "hussein".

Azadeh..Azad

Dr.Azadeh.Azad http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/azadeh-azad

khaleh mosheh aziz:

It is about the *political timing.* Egypt might fall into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood sooner than we guess along with the imposition of the Sharia Law.. Plus, maybe only these two Swedish women were brave enough to suffer in the cold for a worthy cause. Or maybe when it's minus 7 degrees Celcius, less people would have the opportunity to claim the demonstration as something sexual (because so many misguided souls see Women's nude bodies + warm weather = Sex.) They actually equate women's bodies as sex, no matter in what condition.

BB

Mr. B

Look at the last vestiges of Egyptian freedom. Once Morsi has his referendum, just like Iran, that will be that. La Fait Son Accompli. Get ready for a new member of the growing "Arab Nation". With the mandate of the referendum, the investment in feeding Egypt's poor will com through. With promises of more food for the poor, once they have the votes necessary for full Islamic rule, this is deja vu of what happened in Iran. The success of Iran, is precisely why they are trying it again in Egypt. Sad day for Egypt, say goodbye ladies, within a year, your beautiful bodies will be covered by the thick hide of Sexism, and the rough fabric of Tyranny.

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

What do you think of what's happening in Syria?

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

I think these are not Egyptian women, they are Swedish activists supporting the Egyptian women who are protesting the Sharia law.

Zendanian

Zendanian An injury to one is an injury to all.

Ukrainian women also have a history of such protest.

khalehmosheh

khaleh mosheh

Could this be a case of right idea- wrong place? I mean -Stockholm in winter- its pretty cold. It might have been better for them if they had their protest in say, Rio de Janeiro- according to BBC the weather is at a cool 25 C there now.