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Mustosheer

Mustosheer

This is what Khatami said: if we [secularists and religious reformers] have the means of leaving, perhaps it’s better for us to leave, but if we want to stay, we should, but that we should do grassroots social work [encouraging democratic ideals], because it’s going to take years for our people to be ready for democracy. [But] he said [grassroots] social work is difficult and time-consuming, and it’s tough to encourage others to get involved in it.”

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

QUESTION my dear fellow Iranians:

If freedom and democracy for Iran means giving up Kurdistan, is that a fair trade? Would you advocate for it? Let the Kurds have their land?

(Not just autonomy, full secession and statehood)

I would be interested in hearing who is open to this.

JustAnIranian

JustAnIranian

Truth is, I don't think it has anything to do with what we want anymore. What happens to Iranian Kurds will be directly effected by what happens to the Kurds in Syria and Iraq.

I think the lines that the British drew on a map many years ago are getting fuzzier and fuzzier every day.

The sad part of this whole story is that the Kurds are ethnically Iranians. and Iran was a whole country before the British even set foot there.

But what happened 34 years ago, is going to have consequences - even more than it already has had.

I think very dark days are ahead for Iran and Iranians. Lets hope I am wrong...

sayyad.shaer

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I feel like its an inevitability. Kurdistan will secede from Iran by 2025 and will become its own nation with parts from Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran by 2030. They have wanted a nation for a very long time and the West is prepared to support them, and Iran is getting weaker day by day, Baluchistan is next and then Khuzestan. Depending on how the government takes hold, Azerbaijan may leave too. With Iran no longer on the SWIFT system, it seems that conservative estimates say it will reach Zimbabwe grade poverty by 2030. Any minority group will want to secede from that.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Yes, pest control was at work in Iran. The funny part is that no one was complaining in those days. Now, after 3 decades, no one is coming forward and apologize from our people for the mistake they made. Some still fighting with late shah's ghost. Some still sticking with their "Red" ideology and some still believe they saw Khomaini's image on the surface of the moon. Now, some still blaming foreign powers for Iranian people's mistake. These are all the crowd we are dealing with after 33 years.

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

This is what I've been saying for years. This is Iran's problem. Even if Iran is being taken advantage of by foreign powers, it's the Iranian people who let that happen and led it up to that power. We will only grow strong if we accept our mistakes and admit; that's the only way we will change perspectives and move forth.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Dear Sayyad Shaer,
Couldn't be more agree with your comment. yes, we have to accept our mistakes and then move on. To learn from our past mistake. Unfortunately, many of us haven't reach to that maturity.

fullback

fullback

The Picture of Khomaini is no different Than Shit in a Bowl before one Flushes

Mehrban

Mehrban

........and you know what?! He is right! Murder has served them very well for the last three decades.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Nothing is different today. The regimes attitude towards murder has not changed one bit. The arch murderer, Rafsanjani and his children are now being cast as the beacon of hope for freedom in this land . As recent as a couple of weeks ago, one of the clergy in relation to bad hejabi (his measure) of some of the actresses while abroad, with no shame or reservation said;

اگر چهار پنج تای‌شان را اعدام کنیم بقیه حساب دستشان میاید.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Between Khatami and Rafsanjani the West will do everything they can to keep the anti-human, anti-islamic, anti-intellectual, anti-iranian forces in charge to accomplish their dark deeds for Iran and in contrast we need use this time & opportunity to create intellectuals.

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

Which means more sociologists, political scientists, lawyers, writers, psychologists, and professors for every doctor/engineer educated in the diaspora.

faraway

faraway

Indeed, dear Mehraban. It is almost unfathomable to me as to why we expect different behavior and attitude from the same bunch over and over again. Isn't that the definition of insanity according to Einstein?!!

farhangpooya

farhangpooya In all situations, in or outside power, social problems require social solutions (در همه شرايط، در حاكميت و يا خارج از حاكميت، مشكلات اجتماعى راه حل هاى اجتماعى طلب مى كنند)

خشك مغزى داد بر آورد و گفت
از چه ترسى از فرار مغزها
اقتصاد ما ز آن خر بود
خر شود حاكم به كل نوده ها
خر بناگه سخت بر آشفت و گفت
اين چه توهينى است از آخوندها
ما همه اهلى ترين اهل ها
اين جماعت در توحش بى نظير
بد تر از گرگان و هم كفتارها

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Most Iranians have not Failed to See 1979 for what it was: A misguided Reaction, a dishonest explosion of hatred against a leadership that was feeding Iranians love which they chose to spit out (albeit based on intentional deadly deceit from anti-monarchists pretending they cared for freedom and independence in cooperation with foreign powers who also were busy deceiving pretending they cared about human rights and democracy).

Those who do not see 1979 for what it was are doing so out of gutlessness and laziness so they don't have to participate in the hard work which many Iranians are engaged in today to help themselves and Iran, that is building a fair and loyal character with Iran in mind as opposed to the dishonest and treasonous character that was exploited in 1979. 1979 was a Great National Tragedy, the reason is that those who honestly needed to have been disapproved of and exploded upon with the peoples hatred, either walked in to power and are in power today or to this day still claim the late shah was a dictator and the people made no mistake.

Feel free to disagree with me and give me your reasons.

This process Iranians are engaged in requires Painful Regret, not apologies and as far as I can see from here Iranians within iran, they are doing a great job at painfully regretting what their parents generation did and the lessons they were disingenuously trying to teach. Some are working hard to mislead them with slogans like "neither shah, nor mullah" , but as far as i can see even with all the help of western media, it is a slogan that is not finding buyers for obvious reasons. The west is now seen for what it is, its agenda is clearly visible in egypt, libya and syria and the shah is being seen as a patriot that left with out firing a shot to ensure the least violence occurred for Iranians and the opportunity for greatest learning.

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

Amir jan I may not agree with all you are saying but that does not necessary means that I disagree with them all ... also, as i said it before, you are one of the politest debaters on IC ... so thank you for that
: )

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

So far two causalities on this blog ... just a reminder to al of us: Should we decide to remove someone's post, please have in mind that we should also remove those who commented and or replied to those posts .. Otherwise, some of the remained comments make look so weird ! and then by itself abusive ! thanks
: )

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

I actually unblocked elmincot. Perhaps he can clean up his/her comment and re-post it. He can also respond to AmirParviz (hopefully politely) if s/he wishes to do so.

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

I agree that replies that address a specific deleted commenter should also be deleted. But in this case, AmirParviz's comments, although posted as "replies," do not address the specific deleted comment or the commenter. They're just general discussions about the topic. Si, I will leave them be. I actually thought that elmincot's comment was worth a response, but for the fact that he used profanity. So, I deleted it.

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

A note to commenters: Please feel free to disagree with my point of view, and leave comments to that effect. But I have a simple rule: if you use profanity and personal attacks, your comment will be deleted and you will be blocked from further discussions.