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divaneh

divaneh

Could it be avoided? Could a religious society such as Iran avoid falling in the trap of religious barbarism? Is it maniacs like Khomeini or our culture that betray and suppresses us? Would we allow the bloodshed and injustice to repeat again? We have too many important questions to answer.

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

Thank you. I think these things we see are not anomalies. We are not being invaded by Mongols or Arabs. These things are results of our own culture. Sure our culture has been negatively influenced by Islam and other bad influences. But it is from within that we will improve our fate, not from without.

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

I was actually planning on writing a blog on this issue Divaneh jan. I really believe that the Islamic Republic was the ultimate end of the socio-religious experiment that was put in motion by the Safavids--and specifically Allameh Majlesi. The Shia political structure that was devised by Majlesi and implemented by the Safavids was essentially a social engineering project that went awry--or perhaps in worked too well. Any "secular" (secular in the Iranian context) post Safavid was a place holder for what was to ultimately take place: total Shia clergy control of Iran. The Pahlavi dynasty was doomed from the start. I'll try to put all these thoughts in a blog at some point.

divaneh

divaneh

I fully agree with you AO jaan. This cancer which may one day destroy Iran was planted by the Safavids with importation of likes of Majlesi from Syria and Lebanon. As if we did not have enough nut heads of our own. I eagerly look forward to your writings on the subject.

faraway

faraway

As long as we have people who secretly still admire the man as we see here on IC, the chance for a secular democratic Iran without a civil war would be null and void.

SamSamVI

SamSam VI Path of Kiaan Ressurection of true Iran Hoisting Drafsheh Kaviaan

AO jaan, you seen the movie "War of the worlds" :)))..

These Ommatie sub-human creatures are like those alien machines buried underground for thousands of years just to be reactivated at the right time to take over the world. Since Omar conquest we have had these seeds of Qadesiyeh living among us in disguise as these googooli magooli cuddly shaikhak poets, mistiques, haji this & seyed ol olama that . So, just as modern Iran started to take hold these tokhmeh omars began their rectivation process & started to recruit their bi*ches & useful idiots in such groups as;, bookworm lefties, Meli-Mazhabis(nationalist-ommaties?lool what an oxymoron), ommatie-sonnati seculars,mentally retarded rebels without a cause..etc . So as you see the reaction of the nation(sacrificial lamb) was not so much of disappointment but naive denial that such cuddly creatures could turn out to be such monsters in waiting. Sort of like Deer in the headlight syndrome. & believe it or not the story continues with this Ajam bardeh land of dual identity & status quo. Ground hog day, every day.

Many cheers & Best wishes my Kiaani Bro!!!

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

Amen brother, amen. Especially post Safavids and Allameh Majlesi. See my comment to Divaneh above. This was bound to happen.

faraway

faraway

It's so good to see you back Samsam VI. Mehrmass to you and your family!

SamSamVI

SamSam VI Path of Kiaan Ressurection of true Iran Hoisting Drafsheh Kaviaan

& the same to you & your dear family. God speed & merimass :).Cheers!!!

JustAnIranian

JustAnIranian

خوبه مردمی که از او طرفداری کردند، خجالت بکشند.
آمریکا و انگلیس و فرانسه درفکر منافع خودشان هستند. ولی‌ ما ایرانی‌ها چی‌؟

لعنت به او. و لعنت به همه طرفدارانش. آنهایی که حتی شهامت ندارند که بگویند `أشتباه کردیم`.

G.Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian

AO Jaan,
A good find. I was 29 when I escaped Khomeini's hellhole. I don't know how fossilized my brain was. Maybe the old killer knew better.

MortGilani_Caspian

Mort Gilani

In a way, he was correct in understanding that Iranian intellectuals were know-nothing idiots who didn’t expose Khomeini’s lies, and couldn't analyze actions according to their causes and motives and often hidden intentions.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Sadly we only had anti-intellectuals then and the situation is not much better today.

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

We need to expand what it means to be "tahsil-karde" in Iranian. We need to expand what it means to have a good "shoghl". Until we focus only on engineer, doctor, and banker, we will remain an anti-intellectual culture. It IS possible to make money doing what you love and spreading knowledge. This is one of the reasons why anti-intellectualism and anti-expression have stuck around in Iran for such a long time. It is also why, in our brief moments of expression, we step back and put our foot in our mouth (revolution, post 1953 coup, etc).

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

A note to commenters: Please feel free to disagree with my point of view, and leave comments to that effect. But I have a simple rule: if you use profanity and personal attacks, your comment will be deleted and you will be blocked from further discussions.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Nothing is different today. The regimes attitude towards murder has not changed one bit. The arch murderer, Rafsanjani and his children are now being cast as the beacon of hope for freedom in this land . As recent as a couple of weeks ago, one of the clergy in relation to bad hejabi (his measure) of some of the actresses while abroad, with no shame or reservation said;

اگر چهار پنج تای‌شان را اعدام کنیم بقیه حساب دستشان میاید.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Between Khatami and Rafsanjani the West will do everything they can to keep the anti-human, anti-islamic, anti-intellectual, anti-iranian forces in charge to accomplish their dark deeds for Iran and in contrast we need use this time & opportunity to create intellectuals.

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

Which means more sociologists, political scientists, lawyers, writers, psychologists, and professors for every doctor/engineer educated in the diaspora.

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sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

Haha, I know. I was going to change my name. Will do it now. BTW Ghomeishi isn't on my avator any more.

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faraway

faraway

Indeed, dear Mehraban. It is almost unfathomable to me as to why we expect different behavior and attitude from the same bunch over and over again. Isn't that the definition of insanity according to Einstein?!!

Mehrban

Mehrban

........and you know what?! He is right! Murder has served them very well for the last three decades.

Azadeh..Azad

Dr.Azadeh.Azad http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/azadeh-azad

AO: You could actually start "Operation Faraar" by helping Iranians to get out through the borders (Iran is so large, there are plenty of places without Basij) or for attending some Islamic Conferences that we would organize! We need to find out how some Jews escaped from Germany or Russians from the Soviet Union! :)

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Thanks AO: At least this meglomaniac mass murderer Khomeini committed all these crimes, because he truely believed in his own version of "Islam naab mohamadi"! In contrast, his successors, from Mousavi to rafsanjani, ahmadinezhad and khamenei, are killing only because of greed for money and power. This in my opinion is a sure sign of their weakness in the eyes of averarge Iranian, and to some degree explains the relatively significant support khomeini enjoys amongs ordinary iranians.