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زغنبوت ملی-مذهبی

Balatarin

 

حالا که گند کار درآمده  و با یک من عسل هم نمیشود این زغنبوت دستپخت حضرات را قورت داد؛ ماشاءالله عُقلای ملی – مذهبی نامه سرگشاده برای خدایگان علی آقا رهبر نوشته اند که  با آمریکا مذاکره نکن، اول انتخابات آزاد و دست آوردن پشتیبانی ملت ایران،  بعد برو مذاکره که آنوقت داریمت.

به عبارت دیگر؛  خدایگان علی آقا رهبر قدر قدرت با حفظ قدر قدرتی مندرج در اصل ١١٠ قانون اساسی ولایت مطلقه فقیه سر جای خودش باشه، پس از "انتخابات آزاد"  اصلاح نظام نکبت مسلمین  توسط "اصلاح طلبان" شاخ شکسته دوباره شروع میشود، دل مردم بدست میاد و آنوقت  زمان مذاکره خواهد بود.

پیشنهاد میشود کمیته نوبل برای  بیشترین خدمت در راسته اثبات لایتناهی بودن میزان بلاهت بشر، جایزه نوبل تعیین کرده و اولین را به ملی – مذهبی های رهرو شارلاتان علی شریعتی و به نیابت آنان به یکی از همراهان و همفکران، بانو عبادی اهدا کند.

تبریک

 

پ.ن. اصل متن مرثیه/التماس نامه عقلای ماشاء الله ملی – مذهبیون در اینجا.

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Tehran4Iran

Tehran4Iran

Islamic Rejim, and free election , is a contradiction in term, and can not be used in the same sentence. So stop wasting your time about free election in this rejim. Free election will only come around when this Mafia like rejim is long gone.

divaneh

divaneh

Please let us accept that the alternative to this offer is a war that will destroy Iran and will probably disintegrate it. This is probably the best action by any political groups and should be hailed. Unfortunately I think David is probably right and Khamenei gang will not allow a relatively free elections and release of political prisoners that could spell their eventual end as Roozbeh pointed.

I also think we should stop judging people by their past alone and give people credit for today's action when it is due. We all change.

faraway

faraway

Agreed. The only way for khamenie et al to stay in power in the long term is to take up their offer. He can restore his legitimacy by allowing a democratic and peaceful elections whereas negotiating with the US will further weaken his government, legacy and legitimacy of whole system.

DavidET

DAVIDET

Some of these people such as habibollah Peyman were among the so called Islamist intellectuals who strongly opposed liberals (religious or secular) and supported Mullahs and "Imam" as opposed to their own liberal friends of the time!

Now these so called meli-mazhabi's in a "Dear Leader" letter are asking him for a free and open presidential elections, for release of political prisoners,....in order to come to negotiating table with America from a strong positions!

As if Their Rahbar would ever allow such conditions. As if this is the first time this has been asked of him! In this imaginary democratic environment, the first person who should be answerable for his crimes is their Rahbar himself! and they are sking for a democratic system within the constitution of Islamic Republic? Who are they kidding? Khamenei ? The people? America? or themselves?!

Some people have lived 34 years and some have lived the same year 34 times and still believe and say the same crap as they did 34 years ago. Some shall never learn or think others have still not learned..... that there is nothing "democratic" in the aash of melli and mazhabi !

WalterHero

WalterHero Lost in the Wind !

We all want the down fall of Islamic Fossil of Iran , and the fault for having thi skind of regime falls on Iranian people themselves of course , however i would like to know Why Fred never mentions the Illegal Nuclair weapons that Isreal holds in their war houses ??!!
We hear his one sided justifiably attack on Iranian regime , but non what so ever any criticisme of Isreal's regime , why ?
What do you Fred gain by so much caring about Iran and Iranian people ??!!
Iranian government during world war 1 and 2 , did help so many Jewish scape from Hitler's concentration camps by providing them with Persian passports , thousands were saved due to this humanitarian actions , however on international level , i have never seen any Jewish community provide any financial or other wise moral support to Iranian living in Exile around the world , maybe in exceptional cases of friendships only , but in large scale of social protection , non what so ever that i know of . However the social protective net must be stablished by Iranian community themselves , what a dream !!

faraway

faraway

what is the definition of Melli-Mazhabi's "Free Election"?

Fred

Fred

Roozbeh_Gilani

Number of events will herald the end of the 34 years of rule by the Messianic Islamist Rapists, “reformers” and all; unfortunately “free election” within the confines of this regime is not one of them.
As noted in the blog, article 110 of their Islamist Constitution gives the unelected lifetime absolute leader the power over everything in the country including, if he just wishes to do so, kicking out the “elected President.”
I seriously doubt the Head Islamist Rapist would give up his power, change the constitution and just go away to allow free election.
Of course even then, political parties of all political beliefs must be allowed to form and offer their solutions and candidates to the people, only then the process of free election can start to have some meaning and beneficial outcome.

BTW, thank you for standing for principle, good for you!

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Fred: I have no illusions that the head rapist would give up his power peacefully, far from it. My point is we need to support the demand "Free Election", not per VF definition, but in it's truest sense, not least for the value of the extra political pressure on embattled regime.
In principal, I have always supported the "right demands", no matter where they come from.
Finally, our society is becoming more and more polarized, on a daily basis as the result of the 34 year brutal VF dictatorship. very soon, We will be all forced, in the real world, to take sides. If we can not be true to ourselves, even with an assumed internet identity, then our side is definitely defeated!

choghok

choghok Your enemie's enemy is necessarily not a friend.

How do you connect Ebadi to "melli-mazhabi"? This is also one of the "gooz" and "shaghigheh" cases. Looking forward for next very clever connections.

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Fred: "Free Elections" would herald the end of islamic regime....

ShazdeAsdolaMirza

Shazde Asdola Mirza Iranian.Com is not a place for freedom of expression anymore, therefore, I have stopped commenting here. My archived stories are at: http://iranian.com/main/member/shazde-asdola-mirza.html

Roozbeh,
This little "former chicken" Jew is not paid by Israel to bring peace and progress to Iran.

Demo

Demo

Hallelujah SAM,
Your comment is @ no way anti_semantic as it is indicated by the known 'untruthful' commentator below. Neither "former chicken" (i.e. Ferd's own ID on the former IC) nor 'paid by Israel' is anti_anything. Fred pays homage/respect to Israel and Israel might do the same in reversal. Nothing wrong with it. But whether he is monetary compensated or not does not change the fact that his blogs continuously feature his hatred toward 'Muslims,' who constitute a major portion of our country population, shared equally by the most 'Zionists' worldwide and by all the US/Israeli pro-war neocons.

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

آغا دمو تلاش از ماهی‌ گرفتنت از آب گل آلود باعث تعجب نیست. یکی‌ از هدف‌های اصلی‌ تو و امسال تو ایجاد اختلاف بین مخالفان رژیم هست. ولی‌ این را بدون که هم من و هم شازده متنفر از اربابانت، رژیم منفور و دزدان و ادمکشان اسلامی هستیم. وگرنه،‌ای ابله، چرا به او گفتم "عزیز"؟ حالا برو به اون بچه زردشتی مزدور بگو "هاللویا" شاید حقوقت رو زیاد کنن!

Demo

Demo

حقوق این «آغا» فقط و فقط با آقای عالم یعنی خداست و نه با هیچ آقا بشر دیگر چه شاه باشد و چه گدا! غیر از خدا هم «عزیز» دیگری وجود ندارد! و آن روزی هم که دست «مزدور» واقعی حکومت ملایان در دادگاه الهی «رو» شود اصلأ دور نیست و شاید همین امروز باشد! در لجنزار و باتلاق تهمت و افترازدن هم هر چه بیشتر تقلا کنید و دست و پا بزنید بیشتر فرو میروید! پس بزنید و بیشتر و بیشتر بزنید که عاقبتش مشخص است و چون روز روشن

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

آغا دمو ببین من وقت جر و بحث با تو و بی‌ وطنان مثل تو را ندارم! پس اینقدر جیغ و داد نزن، گرد و خاک ایجاد نکن! من با شازده هر اختلاف نظری داشته باشم، آخر سرش این یک هموطنی هست که قلبش برای ایران می‌تپد.

من شکی‌ ندارم که تو یک مسلمان نیستی‌. دشمنی تو با فرد فقط سر حمله‌هایش بر علیه جمهوری اسلامی است و بس! همین فرد بیاد از نظام منفور اسلامی دفاع کنه و تو میای قربون صدقش میری. همانجور که قربون صدقه آن‌ ساواکی به آاسم انگلفیل میرفتی!

ببین، کار جمهوری اسلامی تمام شده، هیچ ربطی‌ هم به حرفی‌ که این آقای فرد اینجا میزنه نداره. حالا تو و کاسه لیسان امثال تو و اون بچه سوسول زردشتی، هی برین این اسامی مسخره را در اینترنت درست کنید و مقت مبارک را پاره برای لذت ما!



Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Shazdeh dear: With respect, I'd like to dissociate myself from your anti_semitic comment at Fred, weather you meant it that way or not. I disagree with Fred on many fronts. But would not accuse him of "being paid by Israel" because he refuses to condemn Israel where she is wrong. Do you have a proof of him being paid by israel?

ShazdeAsdolaMirza

Shazde Asdola Mirza Iranian.Com is not a place for freedom of expression anymore, therefore, I have stopped commenting here. My archived stories are at: http://iranian.com/main/member/shazde-asdola-mirza.html

Roozbeh,
Your characterization of my comment is not correct.
Note that Fred and the "Jewish-rulers-of-Israel" want the destruction of Iran - not anything good for it.
Yes, they are against IRI, but they are the same people who through Shah and Savak (which they still love dearly) caused the fall of Iran into the IRI abyss.
This same "former chicken" Jew who so fiercely attacks the Muslim majority of Iranian population (always including the moderates and reformists) -.pays frequent homage to the Savak leaders (also trained by Israel).
The "Jewish-rulers-of-Israel" don't want to see a free and prosperous Iran. They want Iran destroyed ... so that they can feel that another threat against them is removed (like Iraq).
Unfortunately, IRI is so stupid and ideological that, it is playing right into their hands.

choghok

choghok Your enemie's enemy is necessarily not a friend.

Shazdeh in some cases we agree, like many things you say here, but I do not think Fred want the destruction of Iran. I would say that most of Iranians have turned into extremism thanks to the revolution. Either hezbollahi extremism in some and the other way around in persons like Fred. I think Fred does want what most of us want, a peaceful and democratic Iran, but extremism of IRI has turned him into an extremist unfortunately.

That said I think you are funny and witty writer, too bad we do not think alike about NIAC and MEK. But I guess you have not met the people who have abondoned MEK camps and heard their stories.

Demo

Demo

Very well said SAM. You're rocking. Thanks again.