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دلتان برای شاه تنگ نشده؟

Balatarin

در ۲۶ دی ۱۳۵۷ محمد رضا شاه پهلوی برای آخرین بار از کشور خارج شد.

امروز سالروز آن واقعه است.

سئوال:

پی تجربه ٣۴ سال  گذشته، آیا از میزان نفرت از آن زنده یاد کاسته شده؟

چرا نازنینان حکومت او را اصلاح ناپذیر و حاکمیت کنونی را اصلاح پذیر میدانند؟

آیا دلتان برای زمان او تنگ نشده؟

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faramarz

Faramarz

The late Shah was a lot more "reformable" than the current Regime.

The Iranian Constitution which was based Belgium's Constitution could have also been amended easily.

But we didn't have NIAC and the Reformers back then to warn us against an imminent war from USSR and ask for reforming the Shah's Regime and have a "free election" to modify the Constitution!

Oh, well!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Its funny you don't agree with me at all yet you have the mind to notice a nuance of exceptional importance that usually indicates a mature understanding of politics, who is getting what, who they are using more and who they are using less and how the people are being divided in order to accomplish this.

faramarz

Faramarz

Well, read your comment as if I wrote it to you and it will make a lot of sense.
My major problem with you is the general attitude that "Iranians are victims" and the conspiracy theories.
I have been raised in a way to assume responsibility even when I have limited authority!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

What is your basis for hope? Out of curiosity.

faramarz

Faramarz

At the end, good will always defeat evil!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

So you do not hold out any hope for Iran per se, but the greater human war? otherwise how would you explain the fate of native Americans or over 17 different African countries today? Are they any better off today after the last 500 years of history? I don't have much hope these days, I guess deep down for Iran I believe in fate, somehow I believe something than is not at all rational but gives me a tiny hope for Iran. This idea of fate for me is rooted in Luck more than reason, Iranians have been profoundly lucky far beyond our abilities and I hope they deserve a chance to learn from betraying their king for a false god and corrupted Islamic authorities in 1979.

jockshe

Jockshe American born Iranian (ABI) female and state champion in free style wrestling. Second year law student at the University of Chicago. You can bet your bottom $, I can feetileh-peach you like hulu!

The late Shah was a great statesman, patriot, kind, clairvoyant, and considerate. Several attempts on his life were made but as he stated in one of his interviews he would/could always forgive the perpetrators but he could never forgive the ones who went against the country and lord knows how many of those we have had. God bless him!

JustAnIranian

JustAnIranian

تمام ایرانیانی که میشناسم دلشان برای او و زمان حکومتش تنگ شده. زمانی که همه در ایران بودیم و در دنیا پراکنده نشده بودیم.

آنهایی که میگویند دلشان برای زمان او تنگ نشده، معلوم نیست خودشان را گول میزنند، یا کی‌ را؟

faraway

faraway

The huge size of diaspora post-revolution is actually in and of itself a good indication of how much people have missed him whether they like to admit it or not.

BahramtheIranian

Bahram I only wear my own watch

Now, I know, what the Chinese and East-Indian communities which are 10 times bigger than Iranian community are missing!!
the last Empire of China and being a British colony!!

faraway

faraway

Why are you here in the US? Why not go back to your islamic naab mohammadi?

faraway

faraway

Master of distortion; just like a mullah.

Those communities have evolved over a 100+- year periods not 34 years. Your dishonesty is despicable.

BahramtheIranian

Bahram I only wear my own watch

the influx of recently became middle class Chinese and east-Indians into major unbars in North America , preferably on the west coast, is less than 2 decades old, since china and India started doing well economically!!
let's say some 30% of Chinese became middle class, like now they can afford sending kids to school, cars...., over the last 2 decades!! a growing middle class, they were poor now they are better!!!! got it??? I need u to understand this before I go to the next step !!
what those MD would do after they became one??? as the economic rule of human behaviors says, they will try to maximize their interests, so they invest, on education of their kids and financial investments!!!
many of those investments will bear fruits which makes the rule that I just mention to be true!!
therefore, I conclude those 2 millions people who came on St the day after 2009 presidential election were all Chinese!!!
have u ever thought to open a shop for your progressive school of thoughts in China?? over a billion of people, u may find followers!!

faraway

faraway

LOL, I think you are trying to convince yourself...and even at that you are having a hard time. As a supporter of the fascists regime, you are able in your twisted world justify anything even unspeakable atrocities; therefore, you are impervious to facts and logic; hallmark of a religious fascist Islamist.

BahramtheIranian

Bahram I only wear my own watch

your understanding of my behaviors goes a long way!!! all the way to become a middle class and come here to talk to u!!
how far u have come, faraway??

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Chinese, East Indians, Filipinos, Pakistani, .......etc were begging to come to Iran to work in those days.
Iranian families were importing Filipino maids from Filipins to come to work in their homes. We were wealthy and pride nation. Unlike these days that Iranians embarrssed to say they are Iranians, we were pride of our national origion. Unlike these days,we never hide our nationality. Shahanshahi passport was very powerful in airports and well respected. All those countries around Persian Gulf were jealous of Iranians.
Under shah smart leadership, Iran was the most progressive country in the Middle East. Iran was part of Europe in the M.E. Dimond of Persian Gulf, The elite of M.E. Up to this day, the educated westerners remember those glory days of Iran.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

A Loss not just for Iranians, but the world. A Leader unequaled in his accomplishments for Impartial Justice and Equality in the World.

ghourbagheh

ghourbagheh

You surely have the right to your opinion. Whatever he was and however he is viewed can be determined from a fair analysis of history and the current opinion of ALL Iranians (not just a few diaspora communities). More importantly is the danger that cults of personality pose to any human society, be they the cult of personality around Khomeini or the one around the previous King. Surely, "a leader UNEQUALED in his accomplishments for IMPARTIAL justice and equality in the WORLD" smells of what a cult of personality sycophant would say!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

For me it is an appreciation for accomplishments which have been highlighted by many. It is no secret in the west and in Iran we have many politicians and media outlets that manufacture lies and help to control the thoughts of many, opponents of the late shah outside Iran and within called the late shah a despotic dictator and even many unconfirmed reports from organizations like amnesty international that say Savak Tortured people.

Is the simple and straight forward explanation not good enough in the late shahs and savaks case that maybe he and his team were victims of mass propaganda? Is it not possible that the sources are all lying, misleading the many, deceiving, manipulating and self serving their own interests? In the peaceful and harmless late shahs case I think so because there is no case of executing absolute power in over 30 years.

If in fact the late shahs era was one of improving peace, progress and human rights, not just for Iran, but for the entire region. It should be easy to distinguish those who defend the character of the late shah not as followers of a cult of personality sycophant, but as Iranians who are rebelling for the sake of Freedom by using the truth to defend the character of the late shah, something that many Iranians failed to do in the past.

MRX2412

MRX2412

you better believe! the country has turned to shit hole with no end in sight since he is gone.

Fred

Fred

هی ادا اطوار کتاب خواندن در بیاوری و چیزی دستگیرت نشه و آخرش هم بجای پاسخ به سئوال چرا چپولان میگفتند آن اصلاح پذیر نبود و این هست برگردی به گشاد کردن با قالب کفاشی؛ حیف کتاب.

masoudA

masoudA

Roohesh Shaad - He loved Iran.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Wish all those who provoked people against shah had enough courage to come forward and apologize from our nation. They should apologize because they betrayed our people and put them in such a mess for 34 years.
Confession to mistake is a sign of strength, not a sign of weakness, but this crowd never learn that.
Shah in his last appearance on T.V stated that there were some mistakes, but let's correct our errors and think about Iran.
On strike contrast, those who keep talking about democracy are the ones who provoked people against shah and they still don't want to confess to their mistakes.
Imagine if this crowd, such as user name "zendanian", were on the position of power, they would have killed all our people till the end and they would have never confess to their mistakes. So far they haven't confessed yet. Very concrete way of thinking.
They think they're right and everybody else is wrong. Funny part is they keep talking about democracy but no flexibility in their thinking about their possible mistakes. For that obvious reason, they still want "Barbaric Republic" to be reformed. They still don't want to accept that monarchy system was more reformable that these Islamic criminals. Confession to this simple fact indicates this crowd made mistake. It would be form of confession and apology to our nation. That would be implication to their mistakes,therefore,they don't want to do it.
God bless our shah soul.
Indeed, we missed him greatly.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

They can't apologize buddy, so we need to live with it. Those who betrayed Iran, have the weakest of characters, because the reason they betrayed the late shah was out of Ignorance, and there is nothing weaker than Ignorance. When many are ignorant they are not in a position to apologize because they can not think or honestly change. See the Corrupt Islamic Authorities = pure ignorance. Those who have the strength that comes with Knowledge can honestly change, frequently apologize and honestly mend their ways.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

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JahanshahRashidian3

Jahanshah Rashidian

رژیم اسلامی به دلیل خصلت "الهی" کشتار و سرکوب "کفر" را "اجابت" میکند و برای مسلمانان متعصب نیز قابل قبول است. تنها یک رژیم اسلامی میتوند کشتار را برای خود و پیروانش توجیه کند، نه یک دیکتاتور مانند شاه..
کماکان جنایات این رژیم، توجیه استبداد و فساد دربار پهلوی نیست.سرنگونی شاه حق مسلم مردم بود چون شاه مردم را تحقیر میکرد. او حتی نظامیان را مجبور به دست بوسی میکرد، چیزی که در هیچ دیکتاتوری تحمیل .
نمیشود. آنچه عاقبت انقلاب ٥٧ شد, ربطی به حقانیت ان ندارد