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Balatarin

 

My friend Persa in some ways has been pushing us and I have tried to keep him at bay.  The heart of his complaint in his/hers past few comments has been okay all this learning and teaching on this site is fine but do we have any answers ? I would like to reframe his/her question in this format.

 

If Obama came to us and said hey guys I know your point of view, you don't like IR.   But as a group of concerned educated and passionate Iranians in the diaspora,   can you help me shape my POLICY towards Iran.   Could we give him a coherent and applicable “Policy”?   Can we as a community actually frame the problem and come up with workable solutions to offer as what we want as American foreign Policy?

 

I ask you if you had Obama’s ears what would you tell him to do about IR’s nuclear program, its human rights crisis and its rampant corruption?   

Balatarin

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SamSamVI

SamSam VI Path of Kiaan Ressurection of true Iran Hoisting Drafsheh Kaviaan

If I had Obama's ears.... I would definitely have those antenas covered by keeping my hair long :). Sorry Mehrban jaan ..couldn,t resist.

But If I had Obama's attentions ... I would ask him for nothing but , no war, no sanctions & no dialogue as I have always been saying .

In order for mother Iran to reach her desinty she needs to learn 1st & formost the art of self reliance.. this cycle of ommatie dependence on others to fix OUR problem must end at some points or else we go deeper in this abysse of "ghazaa o ghadar".

As is it has been since post kiaani Iran we needed banni abbass to free us from ommayeds, mongols to free us from arabs, turks to free us from mongols, russians, british..etc. & now Americans to free us from mullahs. Emancipation which is given on a golden plate & a foreign birth certificate without the nation's collective self reliance will produce neither national self respect for future generations, nor a democratic culture since it was given & not earned. Look at French who are still paying the price of idignity for being partly liberated by allied troops even after 7 decades past WW2. We all need to grow up & be accountable for our own doing and for that to happen we need to send %97 of opposition's so called intelligentsia/intelect into retirement since they themselves were the unaccountable culprits of 79. We need fresh young & independent Iran-kiaan based & optimistic new blood to take the driver seat.

Sorry to bore you with my rozeh khooni..cheers dear!!!




Mehrban

Mehrban

The nuclear issue applies to your policy advice as it did to Faraway's, as she has noted. The points about our own (Iranian) attitudes and approaches are valuable insights.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Hello Hello, if this is not the man himself Samsam the Great! Nice to see you Sam. The French may have suffered indignation but they still have Paris! Just kidding. I see your point, its a good one!

Mehrban

Mehrban

Thank you for reposting Persa's article. I was thinking of doing the same but you beat me to it.

Azadeh..Azad

Dr.Azadeh.Azad http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/azadeh-azad

Dear M & F:

It would be a good idea to ask Para to join those of us who have liked this blog or his (the Reverse Engineering of Pomegranate.) Each of us has time for only one subject. I have already chosen the women's issue (not that others cannot be involved in that), because I do not have time to concentrate on all issues. It's humanely impossible. Now, I see Parsa being very knowledgeable about the forces and tendencies within Iran; we can ask him to inform us more (others can join him also for info. and analysis.). Someone can concentrate on World Financial Institutions (the same ones that have screwed up the lives of their own countrymen and women), some could concentrate on China, some on Russia (all in relation to Iran, of course). We can all use the latest and most progressive research, reports and essays written about these issues. If we give a title to these series of articles or this column, then readers can follow them easier. The column could be called: "Iran Can Build its Own Future."

That's all. back to you gals and guys :-).

faraway

faraway

Dr., Sounds like a great idea.

Azadeh..Azad

Dr.Azadeh.Azad http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/azadeh-azad

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faraway

faraway

Dear SAM: That was exactly my reply to Mehraban aziz. Here is answer to me: If you have time read all the comments that have fallen off the first page; It's very comprehensive wherein almost all kinds of scenarios are covered.

Mehrban– http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/mehrban
Faraway jaan, your solution of three Nos maybe a non starter. Because US is clearly nervous about IR's nuclear program and status quo in their mind will result in a nuclear IR.

SamSamVI

SamSam VI Path of Kiaan Ressurection of true Iran Hoisting Drafsheh Kaviaan

I nominate Faraway & Mehrban as co-chairs of the "Ministry of common sense & de-korsisherizing" in future Iran :). Congrats & many cheers!!!

persianpitbull

persian pit bull

Dear Mr President:

Even though i agree with the aggressive sanctions against Iran, but I can not sign onto the reason behind these sanctions. the world community should ostracize iranian leadership and cease any commercial trade and private contact with iranian government because of the treatment of iranians are getting at the hands of their leadership. All other reasons are irrelevant. That may sound like a naive policy but how can you trust any one who does not treat her own kind (species) with honor, compassion, and respect.
However, your biggest challenge, Mr president, is the lack of credibility. The us has been behaving like a bully on the international scene for over fifty years under different pretenses. In order to have the higher moral ground, you need to act just and even handed. your mantra (our mantra), on the world scene, should be the same rules that governs us here at home. Follow the Constitution! yes , that is our constitution, the United States Constitution.
what is good for Camelot is good for the rest of the world.

Sincerely
a citizen of earth

Mehrban

Mehrban

Dear Pit bull, from your first sentence, I guess you would recommend increase of the sanctions with the purpose of regime change.

persianpitbull

persian pit bull

the regime change should be done by iranians who live inside the country. If there is no change then i guess iranians are ok with what they are getting. but regardless of that our refusal to deal with them because of their internal behavior wont change. you will not associate with your neighbor who beats his kids on a daily basis. this is exactly the same scenario. however we will expose the plight of iranian people world wide and give it the well deserved attention.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Pit bull are you I hear this all the time "Regime change must come by the people of Iran" I think this means different things to different people. Does it mean no war? Or does it mean no material help to the people of Iran?

persianpitbull

persian pit bull

Beldercheen va barzegar
is an old iranian short story, third or 4th grade
read it

Mehrban

Mehrban

Oh please don't speak in parables, I see this quality as one of our shortfalls. We hardly finish a thought before we mix things up with a parable. It maybe useful in a closed society but in freedom and under an anonymous name it is not necessary. I think.

faramarz

Faramarz

Thanks for starting the conversation Merban.

President Obama, as he has done so far, needs to have a two-pronged strategy, one towards weakening the Regime to protect the US interest and its allies, and the other towards strengthening the Iranian people against the Regime.
The sanctions and negotiations strategy has allowed the US to keep the allies unified and has cut off the flow of money to the Regime. As a result, we are seeing the weakening of the Regime influence in the region and almost a complete isolation of the Islamic Republic. Obama needs to build on this strategy and get additional sanctions and UN Security Council resolutions.
As for the second part of the strategy, he needs to be a strong advocate of the rights of the Iranian people and condemn the daily actions of the Regime. And the next time that the Iranian people pour into the streets, he needs to be a forceful supporter of the movement and provide as much assistance to the people as he can.
Now, the Regime has two paths forward. It either accepts its isolation like North Korea is doing today, with an occasional firing of missiles. The US and the allies should keep the negotiation lines open and also provide humanitarian assistance as it is doing to N. Korea today and hope that over time, an internal movement will topple the Regime.
The Regime may decide to go to a war path by either causing trouble in the Persian Gulf, or going nuclear. In that case, the US and allies should lower the boom on the Regime military infrastructure and its leadership and help the Iranian people topple the Regime.

Mehrban

Mehrban

I can see the the two prong policy as viable, do we know how he could be an advocate and strengthen the Iranian people. I am guessing that on the ground Reformists may be (I am not sure) the strongest opposition group. Should Obama strengthen the reformists? How can he strengthen the seculars?

faramarz

Faramarz

If the Reformist believe that all Iranians irrespective of gender, religion and beliefs are equal in front of the law, and if they believe in democracy and separation of religion and state, then they should be supported.

In other words, if the Reformist believe in throwing out the Islamic Republic Constitution and its institutions, then they should be supported.

Again, it is not Obama's job to decide who should run Iran. But it is his job to protect the US security and interests and, promote democracy around the world (because it is in US interest).

Mehrban

Mehrban

That is a big if. Do they support a secular Iran? And if they don't is there a way to circumvent them. Is the desire for a secular Democracy strong enough that would take the Reformists in its tide? I know, I know these are tough questions but .........

faraway

faraway

Indeed, That is what the US has decided. US strategy is both covert and overt for and serve different agenda. IRI is cornered at this time like a wounded animal.

Having said that, I do wish the US will just stop both it's proxy war and it's negotiation/appeasement altogether. Let the Iranian people decide their own fate without any outside intervention. No negotiations, No sanctions, No war.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Faraway jaan, your solution of three Nos maybe a non starter. Because US is clearly nervous about IR's nuclear program and status quo in their mind will result in a nuclear IR.

faraway

faraway

I know dear Mehrban. As you said, my solution is too idealistic and not reality-based. Purely wishful thinking. However, I do think Faramarz is accurate in his analysis. The regime is prepared for very strict sanctions and has plenty of reserves at least for the next few years. Within these few years, the regime hopes to go nuclear and make the whole issue a moot point. But in the meantime, people in Iran have to endure more hardship than they are now. The negotiation are again just stall tactics and will not go anywhere. The regime's goal is long-term survival not short-term relief from sanctions.

khalehmosheh

khaleh mosheh

Thank you for posing a great question.

One thing is for sure with respect of Obama, US national interest and IRA. Whilst it would to US benefit to have a US friendly regime in Iran, war is not the answer and he should resist this at this current time. A well thought out package aimed at weakening the regime power base and economy and substantial covert help to organize the internal opposition to fight the regime in a persistent guerrilla and asymmetrical fashion aimed at attacking the key figures in the regime is the way forward if it is deemed the getting rid of IRI is of benefit to the USA.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Hi Khaleh, thank you for the Policy advice. I just realized that Interestingly, no one has advocated for war so far and your comment also advises against war with Iran. The opinions on sanctions seem to have a wider range from no sanctions at all, to air tight sanctions.
Interestingly no one has advised on one off bombing of any of the potential nuclear sites either (something like what happened in Syria a couple of years ago). I guess that in everyone's mind is equivalent to war.

faramarz

Faramarz

In Summary Mehrban Aziz,
Here is what the pro-Regime crowd are saying here.
- Obama wants to get along with the Regime but his hands are tied!
- Iranians in Evin should bring about a Regime-change in Iran without any help from anybody else. Otherwise, it is not acceptable!
- In order to have human rights in Iran, we should have human rights everywhere, and since we don’t have human rights everywhere, Iranians should just suffer through this!
But you know, the underlying problem and the common denominator among all these responses is a genuine self-esteem problem by the people who live in the west and feel inferior towards their neighbors!

Mehrban

Mehrban

Thank you for the summary Framarz, you have great habits. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with asking for help, I never know what it means when people say that people of Iran should bring about regime change themselves. But I hear many people repeat it all the time. The discourse of Iranian politics is so full of cliches that we need to ask our selves what is it that we are saying? How can people of Iran bring about change without help facing about three or four different organized and armed forces that act as armies of IR. While the system is ever increasing the size of this army.

Mehrban

Mehrban

If anyone offered a sound way that Iranians could get to freedom by themselves, I would be all for it. We saw what happened in 2009. Anyway, I did not write this blog as a platform to lecture anyone. I just wanted us to think on our own feet and see what we would really tell Obama. Thank you everyone who has commented so far. All of our opinions count. And then there will be a VOTE. Someday!

faraway

faraway

Thank you Mehrban aziz. We haven't had such vigorous and civilized exchange of ideas since your last blog at the old IC. Please do write more often.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Dear faraway, you are way too kind to me. Thank you!

MOOSIRvaPIAZ

MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Do a Nixon to China and fix relations with Iran.

Because economic prosperity means stronger middle class. Stronger middle class means, less regime influnce in people's daily lives. Only then we have have strong democracy!

Mehrban

Mehrban

Thank you Moosirva Piaaz jaan for participating, I am not sure if what you are suggesting will actually result in economic prosperity for Iran. Because within IR's framework politics guide economic policies which generally is a recipe for disaster. My humble opinion only. It is nice to see you here.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Increase in business and jobs makes sense, we have 13 million unemployed Iranians who are over 21 and have no way to feed themselves from their own work. Yet the inability to run and manage an economy is a legitimate reason to remove both the regime and its loyal opposition for not having the ability to serve the people for many decades and still no ability to serve Iranians as well as they deserve.

Fred

Fred

Airtight sanctions with the aim of regime change just like S. Africa and Burma which you just visited, nothing else would do.

Mehrban

Mehrban

My last question to Fred is a real question, I am not refuting his Policy advice, I want to think that option through.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Fred, Let's assume that the regime falls through air tight sanctions. after the fall of the regime how and through whom can we make sure of a transition to free elections (I assume free elections and the change of the constitution would be the first order.

faramarz

Faramarz

Mehrban Aziz,
We cannot "over-engineer" the next government of Iran.
As we have seen in the Arab world, through actions against a regime, an opposition is formed and a leadership is selected. What the US should do is to stay engaged with that opposition so that the democratic forces within that opposition are well-organized and come to the top and not the reactionaries.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Okay, that makes sense, who is that opposition that the US must stay in touch with? I guess from US's perspective US's benefit it should be all of them and depending on the circumstances on the ground they would launch one or another. But who do we think is the viable opposition? A coalition of different opposition groups?

faramarz

Faramarz

I believe that the US and the west should be facilitators among different groups, if they are asked to do so. For example, many US NGO's in the months leading to the collapse of Mubarak were facilitating among Egyptian groups on how to build democratic institutions and how to write laws, etc.

Also, we should not get bugged down with individuals and groups (i.e. Reza Pahlavi, Bani Sadr, etc.) We should define some common goals (secular democracy, end of theocracy) and work towards that common goal. During the course of active opposition to the Regime, leadership will emerge.

faraway

faraway

Dear Faramarz: Why should we trust Obama? Khoemini as an opposition leader wrote a letter to Carter and made the nastiest deal of the century without any regards for the Iranian people as long as the commies were annihilated. How can we trust any kind of intervention/facilitation by the US??

faramarz

Faramarz

Faraway Jaan,
Why are we even talking about "trusting Obama"? Your question implies that Obama should decide the future of the Iranian people and we are not sure if he has the best interest of Iranian people in mind.

For once, we should act as adults and take charge of our future, but be ready to ask for help and pay the price for it.

We can look at the Eastern European countries as a model. They leveraged the US and western help to gain their freedom from the Commies and they are not paying a price for it. What are we afraid of?

Ourselves! You Betch U! Because at the end of the day it is us that we cannot trust.

Let's change that.

faraway

faraway

You are right in a way. Even Khomeini et al leveraged the US and Western help to overthrow the Shah.

Mehrban

Mehrban

My last question to Fred is a real question, I am not refuting his Policy advice, I want to think that option through.

Fred

Fred

Once the savages are weakened to the point of ineffectiveness, as they are headed that way now, the most seasoned politicians/activists, who are mostly imprisoned now and/or have been, can start the process of establishing various political parties without which free election has no meaning or utility except legitimizing the next dictatorship.
I believe Iranians have been baptized by fire and would not go for another “yes or no” vote.
I'm hoping for a S. African model not only in the overthrowing the regime, but the transition period to democracy as well. And yes, Iran has number of charismatic leaders to facilitate the transition, if not alone, collectively.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Fred, many of the opposition figures in Prison are Reformists, does the Iranian diaspora tell Obama to support and strengthen the Reformists? Who else can we tell him to support?

Fred

Fred

I don’t know about the accuracy of “many of the opposition figures in Prison are Reformists.”
“Reformists” are not opposition; they want the regime, but want to change some aspects of it. And those of them in prison are the ones who lost out in the last internal power struggle.
I do not want Obama or any outside power to support any one, Iranians don’t need that. I want Obama & the sane world to support the condition in which Iranians can do their own choosing.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Dear Fred, who are the Charismatic personalities you are thinking of?

Fred

Fred

The list is too long, and I am very hesitant to name anyone person. They’re many that I adore, some of them are better known, others not so. From labor organizers to academics, homemakers to poets and….
Iran is NOT suffering from lack of charismatic dedicated persons; she is suffocating from lack of freedom for these people to do what they can for Iran.

Mehrban

Mehrban

I hear you, I was thinking maybe they were some of the Iranian household names.

faraway

faraway

Is it possible that the reformists are "reformable"??

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

How is it Iran different than saudi Arabia when it comes to human rights?
How is it iran different than Israel when it comes to being a threat to its neighbors? let us just assume that iran even is a threat as much Israel !

If I see Obama i would just encourage him to stop discrimination. His rules should either be applied to all or none!

just my 2 cents !

Thanks for the thought provoaking blog !
and here a toop for you !

: )

faramarz

Faramarz

Soosan Khanoom,

Saudi Arabia and Israel and most of Iran's neighbors are US allies and share her interests. The Islamic Republic is an enemy of the US. It has US blood on its hands. Nobody in these countries runs around and says "Marg bar Amrika" with complete support from the leadership.

Is this too hard to grasp?

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

dear faramarz,

So, it has nothing to do with the human rights but the U.S interest ? right? Then how can I ask anything from someone who is not interested in the human rights? How can I trust someone whose interest is not necessary mine? Why would I bother?

now more questions than answers !

What in it is for Obama?
Why should he even bother?
Even if he bothers then at whose expense ? in other words who is going to pay for it? nothing comes free ... you know !
Do you want to hire Obama? Hire his army to do things that iranian people should do but refuse to do? Besides, what makes you believe that what you are paying to be done to Iran is also the iranian's people wish? You and me after all only have one vote !!

by the way, I do respect your vote and if one day all the iranian people want that, then despite me being against it, I have no choice but to accept. The question is would you do the same if things do not go base on your wishes?

The problem is not IRI ,the problem is many people who support IRI ... you can not bomb them or starve them to death ! If there are laws in Iran that are being broken or changed or even are wrong to begin with then only it is a reform movement that can fix it ... a overnight campaign will bring a change but not a permanent one ... those people again will rise and fight and come to power even with more readical views than before and the cycle of vilonce goes on ! We have to stop it ... we have to be patient and stop seeking help from others and stop seeing them as a hero for our cuase ! They ARE NOT .... They step in based on their interest as you siad ...

Now , all those death to this and death to that slogans in Iran should also be stopped ! Cause those have brought nothing but ruins and death to the Iranian people ..






thanks
: )




faramarz

Faramarz

Obama's job as the President of the United States of America is to look after the interests of the US and her allies.

For me, as an Iranian-American, the human rights situation in Iran takes priority over the human rights situation elsewhere. Therefore, if I were to mobilize my limited resources, I would focus like laser on the Regime's violations first and then pay attention to the situations in other countries and after the Iranian problem is solved.

Otherwise, I am just shouting empty slogans and blowing hot air!

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

Faramarz, you do not listen to me... do you ? It was you who brought up the idea of U.S interest and I answered based on your own words..

Read what I wrote carefully ... do not rush to prove me wrong just because you feel I am wrong .. read and digest the materials first !

I think we both are saying the same thing ..
We both focus on the human rights !
but you focus through U.S
I, however, prefer to focus through the Iranian people .
Which one of these two is more likely to bring the human rights to Iran or which one of these two can actually do that?

Now who is shouting empty slogan ? Are you shouting empty slogans ? I know I am not !

That is my final comment here ... we can agree to disagree

Have a nice day !

: )

faramarz

Faramarz

When the going gets tough, Soosan Khanoom leaves the kitchen!
You know, I expected that.

You are right, I don't listen to you but I read your comments.

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

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Mehrban

Mehrban

Hi Darya, thank you for the toop :). But I consider your answer a non answer. If Iran was the first one on your list that Obama's rules (your word) would apply to what should they be. What should he do?

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

Drop all sanctions without preconditions. Arrest the people who sign Fred's paycheck at AIPAC and deport them from the US as foreign agents.

Mehrban

Mehrban

And then what? What about Iran and Freedom and the nuclear issue.

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

There is no nuclear issue other than the one that Israel manufactured to deflect from its own illegal stockpile and reluctance to sign on to the NPT and IAEA inspections. You cannot demand freedom of a nation which is under siege, especially when the nation doing the demanding has more skeletons in its own closets than all the graveyards in North America combined.

Mehrban

Mehrban

"You cannot demand freedom of a nation which is under siege," What about the South African model?

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

Different situation altogether. Iran is not practicing racial apartheid of a majority, indigenous population. And IIRC, Israel violated the South African sanctions, not to mention the sanctions Reagan signed up to were quite watered down and inconsequential. The ANC, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and the assorted coalition of political parties ranged against white Afrikaaner dominance and apartheid did more to free Nelson Mandela and bring down apartheid than anything the US or the international community accomplished. Besides South Africa possessed an F.W. de Klerk from within the then ruling South African white Afrikaaner establishment who was willing to compromise and dismantle apartheid from within.

Mehrban

Mehrban

There is a huge ideological apartheid in Iran which is distilled in the expressions of Khodi and nakhodi. Not to mention the gender apartheid. Even though you don't think there is a nuclear issue (I am not sure why), the world thinks there is one.

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

The world does not believe there is a nuclear issue. The United States, Britian, Israel and the EU in servility following the former plus the corporate media qua propaganda ministries of the aforementioned are using a nonexistent, manufactured issue as an excuse for gaining political capital and leverage. However no one else seems to believe it because there is no evidence for it in order for those outside of the Anglo-European West's orbit of power relations to believe it. If you can produce verifiable and fool-proof evidence, which neither the US or Israel has produced thus far, let's see it. Otherwise it is a non-issue and Iran is not pursuing a weapons capability nuclear program because there isn't one.

Apartheid in South Africa and whatever perceived apartheid exists in Iran presently in the minds of a diaspora opposition (whose propensity for exaggeration and deceit are legion as per the experience of this very website over some years) are not the same thing. There is not a single credible political scientist alive (and I am talking about real ones and not mickey mouse wannabes like Mr Kazemzadeh) who believe the authoritarian nature of the present regime in Iran is equivalent to apartheid under the white supremacist Afrikaaner regime in South Africa. You are however welcome to prove me wrong by providing concrete, analytical examples.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Just a simple question, when was the last time you were in Iran?

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

I don't answer questions like that on hostile public lists such as this. When were you?

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

Good.

Mehrban

Mehrban

The point is that you may not know how much of distance there is between the khodis and Gheyr khodis. I am (almost) sure you have not been to Iran for a long time otherwise you would be much more sympathetic to using the Apartheid in Iran's case. Anyway I am getting too far from what my initial question was. I guess you have casted your vote for the end of sanctions and no help to the Iranian people.

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

Had there not been a siege of Iran for the past 34 years, naturally such distinctions between the "ins" (khodis) and "outs" (ghayr-i-khodis) would not exist.

That aside, how you and those like you actually believe the sanctions are a help to the Iranian people stretches credulity beyond all belief. Sanctions are an act of war against an entire people by those waging it. As such those Iranians in diaspora who support sanctions against Iran are supporting treason and destitution against their own people and as such are traitors. Period.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/20111120132050412430.html

Mehrban

Mehrban

I am not sure why your premise about khodis and otherwise holds true.
And please NK, leave "treason" and such words at home. This kind of inflammatory speech is so banal.

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

What else do you call it, then? Seeing fellow Iranians suffering under the yolk of this sanctions regime and supporting it is an act of treason against ones own people.

I am sure you do not think the prospect of Iranian children dying and suffering unimaginable horrors due to this sanctions regime -- as Iraqi babies once did -- is actually a good thing.

These are average Iranians being subjected to such destitution. The sanctions don't even phase the regime's elite. They are hurting average mom and pop, and above all the children. Where is your heart?

Hell yes I cast my vote against the suffering and destitution of my own people.

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

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Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

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faraway

faraway

I don't believe IRI is under siege whatsoever. IRI's thrives on manufacturing crisis after crisis because it knows it is incompetent and does not carry the will of the people. This has been the case since day 1. Khomeini announced its war against Israel the day after the Shah left. IRI has been on a war path with everyone for a simple reason because without war, it's whole raison d'etre will be a moot point.

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

The same can be said of both the United States and Israel as well, except for the siege part.

faraway

faraway

I think we should also discuss what is likely to happen in the next few years regardless of our wishful thinking? Given the IRI's track record and it's ideological underpinning, which drives most of its behavior and policies, What should we expect and what can we do, if anything?