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What if YOU had Obama's ear.........

Balatarin

 

My friend Persa in some ways has been pushing us and I have tried to keep him at bay.  The heart of his complaint in his/hers past few comments has been okay all this learning and teaching on this site is fine but do we have any answers ? I would like to reframe his/her question in this format.

 

If Obama came to us and said hey guys I know your point of view, you don't like IR.   But as a group of concerned educated and passionate Iranians in the diaspora,   can you help me shape my POLICY towards Iran.   Could we give him a coherent and applicable “Policy”?   Can we as a community actually frame the problem and come up with workable solutions to offer as what we want as American foreign Policy?

 

I ask you if you had Obama’s ears what would you tell him to do about IR’s nuclear program, its human rights crisis and its rampant corruption?   

Balatarin

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masoudA

masoudA

What Ear? Barak is just a puppet.....
but if I had the ear of the Obama makers....I would tell them to GET A LIFE....A LIFE free of deceit.

MOOSIRvaPIAZ

MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Do a Nixon to China and fix relations with Iran.

Because economic prosperity means stronger middle class. Stronger middle class means, less regime influnce in people's daily lives. Only then we have have strong democracy!

Mehrban

Mehrban

Thank you Moosirva Piaaz jaan for participating, I am not sure if what you are suggesting will actually result in economic prosperity for Iran. Because within IR's framework politics guide economic policies which generally is a recipe for disaster. My humble opinion only. It is nice to see you here.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Increase in business and jobs makes sense, we have 13 million unemployed Iranians who are over 21 and have no way to feed themselves from their own work. Yet the inability to run and manage an economy is a legitimate reason to remove both the regime and its loyal opposition for not having the ability to serve the people for many decades and still no ability to serve Iranians as well as they deserve.

Azadeh..Azad

Dr.Azadeh.Azad http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/azadeh-azad

Thanks, Mehrban :-)

Mehrban

Mehrban

Dear Azadeh, I saw your comment last night, but I could not respond right away, if the issue is resolved in your mind then great. Otherwise I will write a response. Let me know. All the best.

sayyad.shaer

Sayyad Sha'er visit: www.sayyadshaer.com

Why would any of you smart people even think Obama would lend his ear to anyone? US politicians are owned by corporations and work for them, end of story. He isn't any different than Bush. It's so funny that Iranians can be front-line witnesses to the biggest political shams in history (the Revolution, the Green Movement, etc) and still have faith in politicians.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Also Shaar jaan, we have a voice, if we don't use it, for whatever reason, then that is only our loss.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Thank you Sayyad Shaer, I think as much as your idea may be true (I don't think it is in detail) , it is also a defeatist attitude.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Why should Obama listen to Iranian Diaspora. They are smart, educated, talented, love their country (both of origin and adopted ones) and most of the Iranian Americans worked very hard towards Obama's election. Most importantly they can speak in freedom that is afforded them outside of Iran.

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

If I had Obama's ear first I would have made sure that it is reasonably clean and de-waxed. Then I would blast into those ears: NEVER LISTEN TO THE IRANIAN DIASPORA!

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

Because they are detached, distanced and delusional. Sorry :(

Mehrban

Mehrban

I know you would like to think so. But tell me what are they delusional about? Human rights abuses? Rampant corruption? Mismanagement of Iran's economy? Obliteration of Iranian national identity and more importantly ignoring its national interests? As you well know, the list goes on but I stop here.

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

I hope you excuse me to reply to both Mehrban and Farawy in one comment.

The evidence speaks for itself. More than three decades have passed and the diaspora lack a single unified body to represent their opposition, never mind a cogent leadership. They have deluded themselves into thinking that they are doing something. They have done little or nothing at all except fighting each other on the cyber space. If I am wrong show me the evidence of a solid movement instigated by the diaspora that have had any tangible effect inside of Iran.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Iranians in the diaspora have had to fight a massive propaganda and killing machine of the IR regime. The chain murders (ordered by members of the reformists) did take out important figures of the resistance outside of Iran and the fear of elimination still haunts many. Also the regime's propaganda has been quite successful in muddying the waters in planting its own figures as opposition and diverting attention from the real issues and onto the infightings of Reform/fundamentalists. There is also the issue of geographic dispersion. Having said that, even if Iranian diaspora is not organized in a unified body. Many seem to have a unified voice when it comes to Iran.

What I am hearing is a resounding NO to war,
I resounding Yes to the separation of Chuch and State
On the amount and nature of sanctions there are more disagreements but there is a majority consensus that there should be some intervention (my read)
So on and so forth....
What I am trying to say through this incomplete list is that even if we may not be organized, our individual voices are not far apart and should not be ignored.
I detect a lot of opinions underneath of your (generally) one liners, I wish you would share your ideas about the future of Iran in a transparent way.

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

Thank you Mehrban. Perhaps I should blog my ideas sometime. At the moment all I get, other than on your blog, are baseless accusations. Maybe in near future.

faraway

faraway

I couldn't agree more with you regarding the so-called opposition. They are all equally corrupt and limited in their thinking and vision. I have never been part of any of them. However, we are not talking about forming an opposition. We are merely discussing ways in which we can as a community help understand our shortcomings, our weaknesses, our strength (if any) and perhaps be part of the solution or offer one or many. That is all.

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

Dear Faraway

I am not sure if my brief reply helped but to my knowledge no diaspora community has managed to change things in their homeland without either massive investment of funds or human resources (or both) in their country of origin. At present (and for the last three decades) the direction of flow of both human and funds is outwardly. It is long overdue to turn the direction of these flows.

faraway

faraway

That is a given. Funds are needed to mobilize and organize. However, we are not there yet as a community in diaspora.


Even if we had unlimited funds, I don't know if we would be able to achieve our goals. Overthrowing the regime is only half of the battle.

faraway

faraway

dear RR: Would you care to explain?? I might even agree with you if you did???

Azadeh..Azad

Dr.Azadeh.Azad http://legacy.iranian.com/main/member/azadeh-azad

Dear friends:

As Parsa is busy "Reverse Engineering His Garden's Pomgranates", I copy and paste his response to my suggestion here (last comment before this one).

Parsa– سالهاست ما بروی مهندسی معکوس انار زحمت میکشیم
"Dear Azadeh, I think your suggestion is truly a good idea for people to focus on targeted area and subject matters. For the most part visitors of IC respond better to blogs that are initiated from one's heart and collectively we have acquired some kind of immunity towards images that are cut & paste from other sources. Getting together and becoming not necessarily once voice but a symphony can influence a lot of people. Please keep up the great contributions that you are making. Thanks."

Cone on, Parsa. Leave your pomegranates aside for a while :-) and come here and participate in the discussion. Your physical presence - so to speak - is important. Let us know what you think of all the opinions expressed here, beside mine. Thanks.


khalehmosheh

khaleh mosheh

Thank you for posing a great question.

One thing is for sure with respect of Obama, US national interest and IRA. Whilst it would to US benefit to have a US friendly regime in Iran, war is not the answer and he should resist this at this current time. A well thought out package aimed at weakening the regime power base and economy and substantial covert help to organize the internal opposition to fight the regime in a persistent guerrilla and asymmetrical fashion aimed at attacking the key figures in the regime is the way forward if it is deemed the getting rid of IRI is of benefit to the USA.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Hi Khaleh, thank you for the Policy advice. I just realized that Interestingly, no one has advocated for war so far and your comment also advises against war with Iran. The opinions on sanctions seem to have a wider range from no sanctions at all, to air tight sanctions.
Interestingly no one has advised on one off bombing of any of the potential nuclear sites either (something like what happened in Syria a couple of years ago). I guess that in everyone's mind is equivalent to war.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

Mehran-Jan: thanks for replying to my comment. I think the toppling of the Mullahs is inevitable, and whether the U.S. or others arm ordinary Iranians or Iranians break into IRGC barracks and steal their arms - just like the 1979 revolution - it will happen. So the question then becomes what next? Would a militia in Iran be destablizing for the region, and my argument is do 300 Million arms in the hands of Americans make all of North America unstable? Clearly not having the mullahs in power trumps any concern about arming Iranians. And of course, it will make Iran more stable because ordinary Iranians will fight the stupid separatists and MEK forces too.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Thank you Ayatoilet! on another key topic your brought up before, I am sure that the ethnic minorities (specially sunnis) have suffered under IR and may want to secede. However, I always think they are better off (economically and socially) as part of a Democratic Iran than to go their separate ways. What do you think? Do you think there is any advantage for the Kurds or Baluche's (for example) to secede? I mean after IR.