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Iranian.com Viewers Dropping!!!

Balatarin

Said jan, you know I love the site, and you know I contribute to it. But tell me what we have to do to get viewership up? 

 

The data from December is out now. And I have a copy of the graph to share with you. Viewership is down 60% compared to last year, and down month-to-month!

 

I write a blog one day and the next day its gone. Off the face of the earth. I have to scroll up and down to find it. I used to get thousands of viewers now I am lucky to get hundreds. None of us bloggers get paid. We only do this because, if we have something to say, we want it heard.

 

I know you are a very decent and competent dude. I know you mean well. And let me just tell you that feedback is a gift. Don't get upset at what I say, just take actions to improve the site. I (personally) liked the old format more. I could see everything very quickly....and did get featured by the editors often ...which meant my stuff stayed up for days at a time...and I found new readers, more comments!!

 

I could link in easily with reddit, with other news sites when I posted - and I brought readers in with that effort. Now I have to cut and paste and then repost. But, bottom line, I wish the viewership was up. I want it up! I want the site to be super successful. That is all.

 

Balatarin

ayatoilet1 @ayatoilet17

B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

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SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the Founder of World Singles Networks (ArabLounge, IranianPersonals, etc.), a leading provider of niche online dating services and the owner of Iranian.com.

I already addressed this, but it seems like you enjoy drumming up attention to yourself and being a provocateur (which really should not be rewarded). As i have already said, most folks find their way to the site via old content found in search engines. 2008 - 2012 content just went up early last week and now it is finally (slowly) being indexed by Google. That's around half a million pages!

Views of good content get more page views than content that is not of interest to most folks. If you want more views to your work (this goes for everybody), post work that resonates and piques the interest of the sites users/visitors.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

tetra-jan: who slaughtered who? and did all that happen in the last 3 months? Or last month?

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

Said-jan: I don't think the blogs have a chance to resonate. It all depends on what time of the day the blogs are posted and whether or not that is a good time for traffic to the site. If you post, but there is no traffic, then you won't get seen - won't get tooped - won't resonate. Meanwhile, there is no editorial input to say - hey this is a good topic lets leave it up. Also, there is editorial input to drive a blog down or off. If you (said) don't like this blog, you will pull it down - I know you will. It doesn't matter whether it resonated or not. So while a rise is 'resonance based' , a fall is editorial input.

Also, yes, absolutely when I write I want the stuff read. Call it drawing attention to me, or the topic I am writing about. Everyone who blogs is drawing attention to their topic. That is what this is about. No need to hide it or be embarrassed about it. You seem to suggest its bad to draw attention to a blog - and that is not the right approach I think. I believe you absolutely owe it to the writers to draw attention to them. That is your job - and how the site gets viewers and how you make more money. Understand that. Its a good thing to draw attention to the writers. Its good. Get it?

alborz

alborz Alborz

Viewership data supports impression - I too hope that the site reverts back to the original format, but I am doubtful that this will happen. I still find myself visiting the legacy for reading articles and videos I had missed.

Perhaps we can attempt a referendum on whether the new site should be abandoned in favor of the old format with a few of the enhancements found on the new site.

- Alborz

Rea2527

Rea

It's not really about graphs and how many viewers, it's about ensuing discussion.

IC was a lively place. Educational, too. At least, history and international politics wise. Even when some of us were not commenting, we read with great interest.
Not the case now, hélas.

Finally.
We all know the old IC is gone. So, let's bury it with full military honours. ;o)

PS. mind you, I've never understood why and how of JJ' abandoning the site and handing it over to someone else.
Joint venture, the $ greener elsewhere, what ?

faraway

faraway

You almost said everything I've been wanting to say but feared that I was just being too critical. Thanks.

faramarz

Faramarz

Rea,
Like most entrepreneurs, JJ created something and cashed it in at its peak and then started something new somewhere else.

Rea2527

Rea

Thx, Faramarz.

Can only wish good luck to both: JJ in his new endeavour and Said A. for being so patient with us, little children.

faramarz

Faramarz

What’s missing from Iranian.com of today is an editor to shape the site in his/her vision and take what was good before and what is great today and combine the two.
Right now Iranian.com is like a potluck party with no one in charge of the coordination and organization! You have too many salads and desserts, and not enough main dishes, or nobody was assigned to bring the spoons and the food has been placed on the big table without much attention to detail.
Huff Po is the closest thing to what Iranian.com is trying to emulate and there, not only you have serious news and blogs, you also have celebrity postings, “nip slips”, “wardrobe malfunctions”, cute puppy and kitten clips, romantic stuff, like why you should not sleep with your ex, etc.! We have enough talent here that can create that. It is the question of such work being recognized and featured and not get ignored in the bottom of the pile.
A new editor, which per @SaidAmin is on the way, can sort through the stuff and bring in a good balance in hard and soft material.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

i agree with this, plus some adjustments to make stuff more searchable...or at least see more content on each screening. Look how dense Huff Post is.

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Thanks Ayatoilet for explaining how you got your data. I learnt something new today thanks to you and Yolanda.
BTW the drop in readership can have many reasons, but I think it is temporary. I agree the new layout can be a bit confusing for some. I did not like it to start with but I am liking it now. I see almost all the old commenters here, also the ones who were banned. So we have more varied opinion set now.
There are lots of new features on this site (which people were asking for from JJ) like the ability to like and TOOP. The feature I like most and highly recommend to the more "persecured' commenters is the delete and Blocking of abusive or disruptive comments on one's blog. I used it once and utterly loved it and am gonna use it again :)
overall I give a big thunbs up to the new site and Said Amin.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Roozbeh

I must say that I am in total agreement with ayatoilet1. When people with years of computer experience, having used varieties of software and astute in software application have trouble navigating the cluttered, chaotic IC site that says volumes about the inadequacy of the design. Another reason is the absence of an “EDITOR”. Said seemed offended by ayatoilets’ constructive criticism, and that’s NOT GOOD! Iranian community needs all the news outlets it can possibly get; IC’s loss would be monumental.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

Roozbeh-jan: The two things we absolutely must take our hat off to Said for is that (a) he is a true democrat i.e. can take criticism and negative comments without just shutting it out (i.e. he realizes the benefits of feedback and differing points of view - and how he can use the information to make changes) and (b) more importantly he has the cojones to make changes and try new things - that is the key to success - you cannot succeed in anything without venturing out and sticking your neck out. It took JJ many many years to build up the viewership and modify the format....it will take Said many many years to do the same ... this is a very valuable site and has far more importance and influence then anyone imagines...we have to collectively try to make it the very best we can.

DavidET

DAVIDET

I made few suggestions in the beginning which I am not going to repeat again, but the most important of them was adding a 3rd column for non original items and cut and pastes such as videos, other people's articles, photos etc which right now fill most of the Blogger section. This gives the original blogs the attention they deserve.

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

What is the source of the data upon which your graphs are based?

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

yolanda- this is excellent. Thanks - found something useful and new!!

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

its from a website called siteanalytics.compete.com. You just put in the website url and get the data in a graph form. I found it by just doing some searches on google. I was just curious how ic compared ...and suspected as much. I hope this helps.

NasirKhosrow

Nasir Khosrow Poet, scientist, philosopher, mystic and traveler

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ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

I thought that maybe he was losing viewers to iroon.com, but I just ran a check on their viewership - and they were at about 4000 for December (up, but no where close to what iranian.com is losing month-to-month). So the question is where are they going? And are people posting somewhere else - if so where? I know I am finding myself on Huffington Post more than before, or simply running searches on google news of news on Iran. I also think, and maybe my impression is wrong, but there is much more farsi content, which I like, and I love to read - but the balance maybe off... Anyway, these are some thoughts, I wonder what you think?