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Iranian.com Viewers Dropping!!!

Said jan, you know I love the site, and you know I contribute to it. But tell me what we have to do to get viewership up? 

 

The data from December is out now. And I have a copy of the graph to share with you. Viewership is down 60% compared to last year, and down month-to-month!

 

I write a blog one day and the next day its gone. Off the face of the earth. I have to scroll up and down to find it. I used to get thousands of viewers now I am lucky to get hundreds. None of us bloggers get paid. We only do this because, if we have something to say, we want it heard.

 

I know you are a very decent and competent dude. I know you mean well. And let me just tell you that feedback is a gift. Don't get upset at what I say, just take actions to improve the site. I (personally) liked the old format more. I could see everything very quickly....and did get featured by the editors often ...which meant my stuff stayed up for days at a time...and I found new readers, more comments!!

 

I could link in easily with reddit, with other news sites when I posted - and I brought readers in with that effort. Now I have to cut and paste and then repost. But, bottom line, I wish the viewership was up. I want it up! I want the site to be super successful. That is all.

 

Balatarin

ayatoilet1 @ayatoilet17

B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

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ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

Said-Jan: As a test of the premise of whether blogs rise or fall based on resonance. I am looking at the site this second - 10:50am est. Above me (one spot on the left hand column) is an article with a blue photo (posted by faramarz) with fewer toops and fewer viewing, and 22 hours since posting versus my 18 hours. Then above me - to the right hand side, I have an article about (Napadid shodan 10 rooz ..) again fewer toops, fewer comments, fewer views, and even older than this post. This whole concept of resonance and location - don't seem to add up. The site is not consistent about the concept of resonance. BUT, big but, if there was an editor and he or she actually made some decisions - then it would be clear how and where things are posted and why.

Also, separately, its pretty clear that high traffic sites (like for example huffington post) do have serious 'editorial' management - so my suggestion and other input from this posting is to get some consistent editorial impact on the site!

I hope all these comments are useful and provide decent (high quality) feedback to you that you can integrate into making the site even better. Take it as constructive feedback only.

DavidET

DAVIDET

I made few suggestions in the beginning which I am not going to repeat again, but the most important of them was adding a 3rd column for non original items and cut and pastes such as videos, other people's articles, photos etc which right now fill most of the Blogger section. This gives the original blogs the attention they deserve.

Roozbeh_Gilani

Roozbeh_Gilani "Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Thanks Ayatoilet for explaining how you got your data. I learnt something new today thanks to you and Yolanda.
BTW the drop in readership can have many reasons, but I think it is temporary. I agree the new layout can be a bit confusing for some. I did not like it to start with but I am liking it now. I see almost all the old commenters here, also the ones who were banned. So we have more varied opinion set now.
There are lots of new features on this site (which people were asking for from JJ) like the ability to like and TOOP. The feature I like most and highly recommend to the more "persecured' commenters is the delete and Blocking of abusive or disruptive comments on one's blog. I used it once and utterly loved it and am gonna use it again :)
overall I give a big thunbs up to the new site and Said Amin.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Roozbeh

I must say that I am in total agreement with ayatoilet1. When people with years of computer experience, having used varieties of software and astute in software application have trouble navigating the cluttered, chaotic IC site that says volumes about the inadequacy of the design. Another reason is the absence of an “EDITOR”. Said seemed offended by ayatoilets’ constructive criticism, and that’s NOT GOOD! Iranian community needs all the news outlets it can possibly get; IC’s loss would be monumental.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

Roozbeh-jan: The two things we absolutely must take our hat off to Said for is that (a) he is a true democrat i.e. can take criticism and negative comments without just shutting it out (i.e. he realizes the benefits of feedback and differing points of view - and how he can use the information to make changes) and (b) more importantly he has the cojones to make changes and try new things - that is the key to success - you cannot succeed in anything without venturing out and sticking your neck out. It took JJ many many years to build up the viewership and modify the format....it will take Said many many years to do the same ... this is a very valuable site and has far more importance and influence then anyone imagines...we have to collectively try to make it the very best we can.

Rea2527

Rea

It's not really about graphs and how many viewers, it's about ensuing discussion.

IC was a lively place. Educational, too. At least, history and international politics wise. Even when some of us were not commenting, we read with great interest.
Not the case now, hélas.

Finally.
We all know the old IC is gone. So, let's bury it with full military honours. ;o)

PS. mind you, I've never understood why and how of JJ' abandoning the site and handing it over to someone else.
Joint venture, the $ greener elsewhere, what ?

faraway

faraway

You almost said everything I've been wanting to say but feared that I was just being too critical. Thanks.

faramarz

Faramarz

Rea,
Like most entrepreneurs, JJ created something and cashed it in at its peak and then started something new somewhere else.

Rea2527

Rea

Thx, Faramarz.

Can only wish good luck to both: JJ in his new endeavour and Said A. for being so patient with us, little children.

faramarz

Faramarz

What’s missing from Iranian.com of today is an editor to shape the site in his/her vision and take what was good before and what is great today and combine the two.
Right now Iranian.com is like a potluck party with no one in charge of the coordination and organization! You have too many salads and desserts, and not enough main dishes, or nobody was assigned to bring the spoons and the food has been placed on the big table without much attention to detail.
Huff Po is the closest thing to what Iranian.com is trying to emulate and there, not only you have serious news and blogs, you also have celebrity postings, “nip slips”, “wardrobe malfunctions”, cute puppy and kitten clips, romantic stuff, like why you should not sleep with your ex, etc.! We have enough talent here that can create that. It is the question of such work being recognized and featured and not get ignored in the bottom of the pile.
A new editor, which per @SaidAmin is on the way, can sort through the stuff and bring in a good balance in hard and soft material.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

i agree with this, plus some adjustments to make stuff more searchable...or at least see more content on each screening. Look how dense Huff Post is.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

not good ... that is precisely what we don't want! right!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Ayatoilet

You can not judge viewer trafic rating on just one month, you need at least a few as software takes time to show its preferences.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

My views after careful consideration with time.

I prefer the software we are using, the toops, the like and reply ease of posting. Otherwise the old layout was better for searching for what interested you as the new lay out requires time for searching around and most popular works do not get the same attention.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

Amir-jan: I sort of agree. I wish we had more blogs featured on the right hand side - that might help find items. I think the biggest issue is simply finding stuff worth reading. I do like the toops, and the like button, and the ease of communication. Its much easier actually to post. Its much harder to find stuff, and its much harder to know where to find it. I visit a site called businessinsider regularly that has a similar format, BUT, it has sub-pages where I can find stuff more easily, and much more listing of items off the side. Basically, I think the site can be improved... a great deal.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

We agree on too much you don't even know about. Its our fundamental number one we don't agree on. If you were to think for yourself you would realize the shah-han-shahi was a democratic institution based on democratic ideals, something the west would not like to educate anyone on as they oppose Iranian national culture for selfish reasons and base on a total lack of principals.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

If you were a good looking chick, I think we could agree on the fundamental number one issue ...but I am not sure we would be talking about the same number one issue you are referring to above!! Oh to be serious for once, I think it does not matter whether we agree or not, the issue of the monarchy has to eventually get settled by a referendum - its not up to you or I to agree on it. We are meaningless on that issue. If we can agree on everything else, then ultimately we can agree that the people will vote on it. And it has to be resolved by persuasion and reason - NOT - oppression and imposition of someone's unilateral will. Like Thomas Jefferson said - its all about enabling the people to make a reasoned decision. Government must reflect the true will of the people. You have to sell - not tell. The Mullahs do not understand that. And in reality the west doesn't want it either - their big solution to resolving the 'crisis with Iran' is sanctions ...which are a joke, and its 'them' imposing their will on Iranians top down. And they want to negotiate with people that do not represent Iranians. Better to forget sanctions, forget negotiations and set up an embassy, establish deep roots and connections in the country, and then through persuasion provoke a change...that results in the people deciding what they want...and electing out of their own free will the leadership and direction they want.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

see, we agree, the people must decide, yet based on our own reason, persuasion and experiences we are not in agreement for what we support, not yet based on your writing anyway you know where my views are at least, that without the team that supported the late shah who were a democratic representation of the best of the best Iran had, today, Iran would be less than nothing.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Yes, I think the old format is much better than this one. I think that is the reason people are leaving. Hope the old format comes to live again with all our writers. Thanks A.T for bring it up.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

people are definitely not leaving, just not sure about more viewers coming. I only know of 2 viewers that are no longer here compared with a dozen new ones.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Viewers are dropping drastically. Just take a look at numbers which is next to any blog. you see something around 52 to 400 or 500.
Crown Reza Pahlavi norooz message in old I.C site was viewed 13400 times.
I wrote one blog regarding Golshifteh Farahani in old I.C site and it was viewed 5160 times.
I posted one greeting from Hitler to Reza shah the Great in the old site. It was viewed close to 6000 times.
Where are those number right now?
Just take a look at number next to any blog to see how many times that blog has been viewed. it is way off what it was before.
Look at this blog. It was viewed 181 so far with 29 comments.
it is crystal clear viewers are dropping.