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Balatarin


So a few changes have been pushed to production and are now live on the site. They include:

 

  • Blocking: When blocking a user, you are essentially ignoring them and preventing them from interacting with any of your blogs. You will not see any of their posts, comments, etc. In essence, they do not exist while you are logged in and perusing the site. The pop up when blocking a user needs cosmetic work, and if you experience any bugs w/ this feature, please post it here.
  • Per the request of a few folks, you can now "dislike" a comment. @EsfandAashena I saw your request re: anonymity when liking or disliking comments. Personally, I definitely would like to know who has liked and disliked my comments. I feel that this level of transparency is healthy for the community and makes us more aware and thoughtful of our actions. That said, I welcome everyone's feedback...
  • We have a few power users who post a flurry of News and Blogs. While I appreciate the passion and contributions, it is easy for those folks to dominate the upper half of the home page. Thus, a limit of 2 blogs and 2 news items are allowed for a 24 hour period. Do those thresholds sound reasonable or should we allow more/less?
  • Video blogs: In addition to YouTube, you can now add Vimeo videos. I will add this option to text blogs as well. 
  • In the event that you have not noticed, a few weeks ago a "Subscribe" option was added to comment threads. When subscribed, you wil be notified of any new comments made for that particular thread. You can unsuscribe in the same manner. 
  • Farsi font: Lots of good (pretty) Frasi fonts have been identified for the Farsi version of the site. Unfortunately, they tend to screw up the layout. We will continue to work on this...
  • The Facebook "Recommend" button has been added.
  • Archiving, switching of servers and other unexpected problems have finally been fixed. Google has started to re-index 2008 - 2012 posts and I have started to see an increase in organic search engine traffic. I will post a chart in a few weeks that shows the sudden cliff when that content went missing, and the gradual rise now that it is back online. We will also add a prominent link on those archived pages, so as to help drive users to the new layout. Archived content can be found here: http://iranian.com/main/index.html 

 

By next week...

  • All comments and blogs will be reviewed by 2 moderators before they are published. This is a much needed step to ensure that this community maintain a respectful, informative and engaging conversation between commenters and bloggers.
  • At that time, the "Community blogging and commenting standards" will be published and yes, enforced.
  • I see many users delete their comment, only to repost it. I assume that this is usually due to typos. Hence, a preview option and larger text box will be available next week. In light of this, the option of deleting comments will be removed. 

New Layout: By the 15th of February (give or take a few days), the new layout will have a home page that includes select blogs that the Iranian.com editor/staff has picked to be featured. Blogs will be the main column, with curated news links (again selected by the IC team) taking up a much smaller piece of real estate on the home page.

 

In addition to being featured on the home page, those blogs will also be available in one of the following site categories: Politics, Life and Style, Entertainment, Business & Economy, Arts & Literature and an Open category. Non-featured blogs will reside on the Blog Central page. News will also have its own dedicated page.

 

 

Balatarin

Saïd Amin @SaidAmin

Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

Orange County, CA

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BB

Mr. B

Great ideas, and I think you are definitely getting somewhere with the discussion.

I have NO PROBLEM with site moderators implementing the stated policy of the site, and either removing or deleting inappropriate comments. I would HIGHLY recommend that when doing so, you replace the missing comment with a statement of the fact and why it was removed, so readers don;t feel weird seeing a skip in the conversation. You can refer them to the site editorial policy, that would be cool too.

I have a BIG PROBLEM with putting the delete button in the hands of us writers. I have disclaimed that I will NEVER delete a comment regardless of whether it attacks me fairly or unfairly, and I hope everyone trusts me in this regard. BUT with the button in my hand, this site puts me in the doubtful category and as far as anyone (and apparently my biggest fan Esfand Ashena joon) is concerned, I am madly deleting all the comments that disagree with me and leaving only the most pristine pro Bahmani ones.

Clearly, we cannot be left to our own devices.

I "vote" that inappropriate comments be deleted by the site moderator and editor as needed, and that writers do not get to have ANY say in what is removed or more importantly LEFT in response to their post.

Especially Iranian writers need to keep it real, and be told off now and then. I (and Esfand Ashena) know I do.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

Bahmani I am glad you're not takig my flogging comment too seriously! In all honestly all I mean is that if two people come to your blog and want to bypass the subject of your blog and just insult each others' sisters and mothers for no good reason other than just being bored, you should stop them after one or two exchanges.

If you don't then someone has to be responsible to flog you and flog you mercilessly! This has nothing to do with deleting or blocking people who leave comments against you and your view. That is a different subject and not a reason to flog someone!

BB

Mr. B

Never! I just cannot warn everyone enough about the pitfalls of allowing writers to moderate their own comments. I simply do nto want this power. I am more than willing to have the comments moderated for me, as along as no one can blame me for censoring free speech. I understand something has to be done to moderate comments and keep the dialogue civil, but I don't want that responsibility.

The standard is simple, as long as no threat is made, and as long as the comment is reasonably polite, and not name-calling, it should be allowed.

Trust me, the first day people realize that the writers have this power, everyone will accuse them of stacking the comments in their favor.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

You say tomayto, I say tomawto! You say Never! I say flog you mercilessly! Again you don't realize that one of the reasons to have comment control for writers is the lack of funding to hire multiple Moderators/Asst Editors on a 24/7 and 365 days a week schedule. That does not mean 24 hours a month and 7 months a year!

Not to mention that is how it is done everywhere else.

BB

Mr. B

I see your flogging (and I'm starting to like it!) and raise you another disagree. I dont know what you mean by "everywhere else", but I know for a fact that the top pubs, never allow the writer to self sanitize the comments. Especially putting us Iranians who have little experience with freedom of expression, but tons f experience with egoism, in charge of what "WE" think is a suitable comment, is a very dangerous chasm. You cannot wash it with me by calling it merely administrative help because Said might not want to hire moderators. I want none of it. I am willing to take my negative comments, it helps me, actually, and if the feature is not removed soon, I will have to rethink my writing commitment to this site. Why do you think I have been on hold on this site? I'm certainly posting everywhere else!

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

What do you mean by "top pubs" that don't have comment control for authors? You're just stuck on the dictatorship and censorship in Iran and trying to compare it to here.

BB

Mr. B

top pubs as in top publications that have a reputation of journalistic integrity. There is not one authority on journalistic code that would ever accept a writer being allowed to control his own comments. Allowing it here will undermine the journalistic integrity of this site (even more). Putting a proper comment posting and moderation rule will repair what has been lost in the JJ era. Then we can begin the NewIranian.com era.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

I see what your problem is now. I recall having this discussion with you before few years ago with that user "Nazanin Canadai" or "The Mrs". In that discussion, much like you're arguing here, you were calling yourself and some others "Journalists" and were belittling the rest of us who dare write something in the blog section, or as it was framed (due to your what should I call it diatriate?!) the BELOG SEKSHION!

So now you're talking about "Journalists" who are professional and yet they're willing to work here for FREE! AND you add that they work in "top pubs" where there is no comment control! Of course there is no such pubs since all the reputable ones have comment control!

Oh well at least we have to be grateful that since there is comment control here and in Iroon that we will not have to suffer through your "journalistic" articles! Although there is talk of "moderating" comments which if it comes to pass more "journalists" will pack their bags and head over elsewhere!

BB

Mr. B

No, I never consider myself a Journalist, I do consider myself a good writer and my point is that some people should simply not write. Not everyone can. I can get a paid job as a professional staff writer for an American magazine or newspaper. I've done it. Most of the bloggers I argued against can't. I have however changed my mind since. I think everyone should blog. It allows comment and critique and if a particularly stupid dea is presented, to have it exposed as stupid, so the blogger learns. Not blogging lets you keep stupid ideas in your head, which is far more dangerous.

You keep misunderstanding what "Top Pubs" means. It means Top Publications. I do not mean top Iranian publications, we have none. I mean Top American award winning Publications with a proven track record of journalistic integrity. NYT, Washington Post, etc. These Top Pubs have a very strict comment posting guideline, and the comments are specifically moderated by staff that is NOT the article writer. This is to prevent a writer from stacking the comments in his/her favor, and a complete foul and insult to free speech and the journalistic code.

Anyone who lets writers censor the comments on their articles, is insane, and that publication cannot ever be trusted to publish the truth.

Especially at this time in our fragile history, as we come to grips with handling freedom of speech and how we talk t each other civilly, we should not put foxes in charge of the hen house.

Now that is a really stupid idea.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

Oh and one more thing, you don't even know if Washington Post allows its Writers comment control or not. Have you ever submitted an article to Washingtin Post? If so, please provide a link.

The blogsphere itself allows it.

BB

Mr. B

I do know, and if I provided a link, you would dispute that too. It is OK for you to disagree with me.

If your position is that it is OK to allow writers to remove ANY inconvenient comments that disagrees with their opinion or that points out mistakes and incorrect judgment, I disagree with that and say it is dangerously close to censorship.

And I will not participate in a site that allows me to artificially stack only the arguments I like or are in my favor. I think that is a farce and extremely insulting to readers.

For us, especially at this time, when telling the truth is critical to our socio-political evolution, we ought not embrace it, as tempting as it may be to you.

My position is I can do without it, just fine.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

@SaidAmin this comments thread got long so I thought to start a new comment. I saw your detailed response to my comment and I appreciate the time you took to explain. I understand and agree with what you’re saying and in fact it is because of what you’ve said that I’m asking you to please re-consider some of the changes you’re planning, not despite the facts.
Let me ask you to ask a rhetorical question; everything being the same as you’ve explained (financial restrictions and all) which would you like to have a website where more people communicate and post contents or less? I’m sure your answer is yes.
I don’t think when you’re going to limit the number of posts by users to 1 or 2 per week AND let comments sit in queue for moderation, it’ll help boost participation. Your point about limited resources is well taken but it doesn’t mean these changes will help the website, quite the contrary it may have far worse consequences. How? Let me try to explain;
I believe you and JJ were almost there when it came to wanting to do less work to the website and let people publish their own contents without interference. When you opened this new format that was your intention. I have always said that “comment control” was the only thing missing because not only it’d give freedom to bloggers in their own homes, it’d create hundreds if not thousands of Editors for you, free of charge. You can’t blame a bad apple here or there, look at the bigger picture.
When you asked us if we thought an Editor would be good to “feature” comments I said “if you can afford it, why not”. But if you don’t have the resources you don’t have to do it. Let us as a whole be your Editors. You’re almost there and don’t need to do too much which as you’re explaining it can be final blow. Just give us anonymous like and dislikes for content and comments, get rid of the TOOP (or give us NO TOOP option) and let an algorithm decide what gets featured and what doesn’t. Let people post as much as they want but they all start the same in the back pages. You can feature something every once in a while or hire a PT Editor to feature stuff every 2 or 3 days.
Let me speak for myself what will make me leave this site as a regular visitor and contributor. One if you make if ask us to pay for membership and two if I have to wait for my comments and content to be published in god knows how long! I’ll still come back and visit but not as much, what’s there to like about it?
If you’re worried about people fighting and abusive behavior (which is understandable) give users warning and then block them. Just do it! Do what JJ did before, don’t worry about it, despite a lot of hot air that you hear here most people won’t care who and why someone got blocked.
I wrote a blog when this new format opened up accusing JJ of ending up as Evin’s warden of i.com, not because I didn’t like him blocking people (which was the right thing to do) but because he didn’t give us freedom in our own blogs (own homes) and wanted to enforce what or how people said things in our own blogs and didn’t care to give us any say in it.
In the case of someone like Bahmani who want people to come to his blogs and duke it out, well block Bahmani! Water will not move from vAter!
So you see bottom line you don’t really need to “change” that much. I think right now just give us anonymous like and dislikes for contents and comments, tweak the algorithem, don’t let one content stay way on top, add few tabs for organization and you’re done. You don’t need an Editor, not a full time one anyway. Oh and in the list of Iranian websites, I think iranianuk.com and kodoom.com have good formats that works. Kodoom doesn’t have good blogging or commenting section but the organization of content and home page is good.
I don’t know what else to say other than you don’t have as much readership as i.com had before, whether it was JJ being a knucklehead or whatever. So who and what are you making these drastic changes for?! Keep it simple and more people will come, make people wait and complicated less people will come.

BB

Mr. B

HI, sorry to bother you with my unflogged comment. I would argue that I would actually prefer to "pay to play". Free comments from the cheap seats are often never worth the price of admission, and that in itself might a good way to remove the commercial aspect that has plagued this site since the beginning.

Since we're being brutally honest, here's why ads never work to generate enough revenue, to keep this site well enough fed to continue on it's own energy.

Few Iranian businesses are global or reach everywhere so that they can attract enough customers to buy their products to make it worth while. The singles ads are the ONLY global product, and that is only effective if I am masalan sitting in Logan Utah and you can hook me up with a date this weekend. Chances are you can.

But other than dating, there isn't a single Iranian business that benefits from advertising across the wide path that Iranian.com covers. Ask them.

Even concerts are regional. An LA concert by Aref has absolutely no value to me in NorCali. That it screams across the top of the page, utterly pointless.

Which is why I installed the adblocker which thankfully works on this site and JJ's new one too!

Which is why I would prefer to pay for no ads, even though I don;t have to (adblocker).

This site (and JJ's new one) would make far more money if they charged us a monthly access fee, or a discounted annual fee. Charge more for writers than the readers, even if you want. I'll gladly pay you.

These kinds of community benefit sites, better follow the PBS/NPR public broadcasting model, than the traditional commercial model anyway.

But the best proof of this, is that mainstream American/Western publications that provide an Ipad edition, have all moved to the subscription model and are doing great.

Granted this site is nowhere near optimized for an iPad, and most Iranian sites are FAR behind the curve on mobile device optimization, still I think you should charge for the reader to read content that writers pay to post.

Maybe then you will separate the shit from the shinola and a level of excellence can be attained.

I would respect you far more if you approved or rejected me as a qualified writer for your publication. But as it stands right now, all you are getting is unaudited incompetent mediocrity that insists on telling you what to do. For free.

Sounds foolish huh!

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

Washington Post has a full time staff getting paid to moderate AND more importantly they have thousands of people commenting there.

When there is a hot button issue (like Supreme Court ruling in favor of Obamacare) the comments come in at a rate of hundreds per second! So you can't compare that to here where we have a dozen or so regulars.

The idea is to get hundreds of contributors and hundreds of comments and then you expand. You go with what works for you. In the old i.com people left because it has become a sport for the few regulars to take pot shots at peope for no good reason. It had become chale meydoon!

We just have to agree to disagree on this and also we tried the other format and now trying something new. The world has not come to an end and even the comment control we have is half-hazard leaving behind messages of deletion which again is iroon-bazi. Iroon has the better option in this regard.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

Bahmani you're haggling! Said already explained below that these kind of Iranian websites don't make money. We knew that for years and have already discussed it in details with you, JJ and everyone else, many many, MANY times.

Pay for comment or usage fee or subscription fee and such won't work. Don't look to just this website, look to a lot of other American websites and see which ones are paid and which ones aren't.

Netflix is an example they changed their subscription format and millions left. FB, Twitter, Yahoo, Amazon and Google the biggest names in internet and business all have free formats and paid subscriptions for more premium business area. Most people use the free format and leave the paid premium area. Furthermore, all these websites have something to sell first and are good at it before they move on to the next step of subscription area.

The only way i.coms can work is just people coming here and expressing themselves and engaging each other. Contributing material and a place to hang out. An online magazine. It's a labor of love, nothing more nothing less. Until such time that Iran becomes more open to the world and press and these websites can expand.

So leave it already the more you talk about it the more salt on the wound. It's as if you are like IRI you either don't get it or don't want to get it and are stuck in the wrong side.

BB

Mr. B

Nothing against Said, I think the ONLY thing Iranians will buy online is dating. But these sites are far from FB or Yahoo. The day you charge for it though, will be the day real comments and quality content, and not the useless ones will be made. It will also make more money for Said than he likely makes now (Net, after all "expenses")

Paying simply separates the wheat from the chaff. And I am sure you will agree, we have a lot of "chaff" now.

Also, keep in mind that those other sites operate specifically to take advantage of the users. The more of them they have, the better. Millions if possible.

If, according to your assertion this site has "value" to the users, then the principle value should naturally be high. Or, all of these wonderful people you wish to serve, should pay for the environment in which they can come and freely express as important a dialogue as you suggest is their desire.

But, according to the sites you mentioned, and I think, incorrectly compared the I.coms to, the following quote applies exactly:

"If You’re Not Paying for It; You’re the Product!"

The only thing worse than being unable to express yourself, I think, would be to be considered to be a "Product".

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

Are you listening to yourself? "The day you charge for it though, will be the day real comments and quality content" LOL! You live in lala land or is it cyber space?! The day you pay for "comments" is the day you have lost your mind or better yet you have lost the value of money!

BB

Mr. B

You cannot disprove my theory until you try it. No one ever having tried it makes my theory entirely valid.

Actually my theory was proven years ago when I convinced JJ to try an experiment.

I put a door on I.com with a sign that said "Thanks for your support of I.com, and then 2 buttons. A Red button that said, "I have already donated, or will make a donation at another time." And a Green button that said "Make a Donation Now".

In less than one week JJ made $5,000. The second week when I saw the site again, he had taken it down, and I asked him "WHY!!!!".

He said, "Nah baba, digeh zeshteh..."

I always wonder how much he would have collected if he had left that simple sign/test on and never taken it down. I will now think, that it would have made quite a lot.

Since there is no proof it wouldn't have. :)

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

A whopping $5,000 ey?! I don't know if you're familiar with Randy Moss' reaction about comparing his $10,000 fine to a flick of something!

BB

Mr. B

I repeat, $5000 a week. That is arguably $260k a year. Ask Saiid if he will take $260k a year now. Back then $260k was worth like $10M to JJ. Ask Randy Moss (although why would you ask Randy Moss anything other than "Aren't you retired yet?") if he likes $260k too.

All I'm saying is it worked. I wonder what Said's books look like now. I doubt they look good. I hope I am wrong.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

I believe there is more chance of winning $5K per week in Pick 4 lottery than expecting readers here to "donate" $5K per week! Or you'll be better off asking a rich Iranian to donate $260K all at once so that your dream can come true! Be real.

BB

Mr. B

All I know is it worked then. Certainly it was better than now, where Said has to bear the burden alone. At some point we are going to have to take on the financial responsibility for what we want to happen. Continually denying this responsibility and passing it off from JJ to Said and so on, is not healthy. And the reason we get this.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

"...we are going to have to take on the financial responsibility..."

No we don't "have" to do anything.

"...is not healthy. And the reason we get this."

So? It's not the end of the world. Even if both sites fail it's not the end of the world, something else will pop up somewhere. More importantly some day a good website will be established in Iran where we can all be a part of.

Nickel and diming us here will not work. You can't constantly talk about Mossadegh, Shah and Khomeini all the time. At some point you need to talk about something else or no matter how much money you throw at it no one will want to talk about reruns.

BB

Mr. B

Hear! Hear! Wonderfully stated. Could not agree more.

SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

I appreciate your thoughtful comments and suggestions. It's good to be part of a passionate exchange that is void of personal insults or bellicose statements. The site needs more of this constructive energy...especially when two people are in disagreement.

I think that we will all see how things go in the coming weeks/months. I'm very open to an iterative process that seeks to improve the product and core metrics. Maybe you are right, some of the forthcoming changes will hurt more than they help, but as an entrepreneur these are the risks that one is willing to take. Sometimes we have to take several steps back to take a giant leap forward.

Looking forward to getting your feedback once we've settled into the new layout and moderation policy. Thanks again Esfand.

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

No problem, glad we can communicate. As I've said to JJ there is no suggestion that me or anyone else can provide you that is better than the organization and content of the old i.com. Again just missing the "comment control" and "blocking" options by users.

I can already say that I will NOT like moderation of comments as I'm 100% sure that once I click on "Post" I want my comment to be published not when it is OBE!

Perhaps you can promise us that if the changes made things worse that you'll re-consider some of the changes.

SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

Absolutely!

JahanshahRashidian3

Jahanshah Rashidian

Mr. Amin, on the former Iranian.com, alongside many pro-reformists, a number of pro-hardliners, (AN and Khamenei) like Ms. Ulrich, Afrasiabi, Ommani, Jalehho -- see the archieve-- and many with bogus names and eventually multiple accounts were blatantly supporting the regime while slandering the opposition and promoting a foul language against the opposition users.
I wait for the new editorial policy that is supposed to explain your guideline next week. If materials from such regime’s supporters emerge on the new front page, I will protest the editorial policy, as I did with the ex-Iranian.com, if no satisfactory results come up, I will quit the new version of Iranian.com too.

SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

Hello Jahanshah. Defamatory statements, foul language, smear tactics, etc. will not be published once moderation is in place. Furthermore, such types of community participation will more often than not lead to the suspension of one's profile. That said, Iranian.com will continue to welcome a diversity of viewpoints. The expectation is that people adhere to the blogging/commenting guidelines once they are published.

JahanshahRashidian3

Jahanshah Rashidian

Dear Mr. Amin
The following sample “See who wants to rebound with you” constantly appears on my IC. Please remove this dubious message. I do not know how to remove it.
My second question is: when will be your new format, guidelines, and a front page (for serious articles) available?
Thanks for your feedback

SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

Hello Jahanshah, can you please provide me with more information via email. I am not sure what you are referring to with the “See who wants to rebound with you” message.

As for your second question, I am obviously running behind as the 15th has come and gone. It's looking like we are 10 - 14 days from being ready. It's shaping up, but we're not quite there yet.

JahanshahRashidian3

Jahanshah Rashidian

Hello Said, it could be an ad from a browser, as it shows at the same place now "Spielen"= play or games!
Thanks for the feedback, how about my second question...?

SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

My pleasure. Your second question was answered in my reply. Here it is again: "It's looking like we are 10 - 14 days from being ready. It's shaping up, but we're not quite there yet."

kps59

kps59

I was going to ask how the archiving of past blogs and posts has been going a few days ago. In the meantime you put this post up and I don't need to ask now. I see that progress is being made behind the scenes.

SamSamVI

SamSam VI Path of Kiaan Ressurection of true Iran Hoisting Drafsheh Kaviaan

Dear Said, By now I think I have figured out your vision for your site. So far I reckon you are in order of priority a ;,citizen of the world, moderate Muslim with a hint of sharia, secular Middle Easterner, entrepreneurial businessman & an Iranian by the right of birth or passage. Now, before i render my final decree on you :)kindly provide me your answers for a few direct questions.


1-Is your site going to be a Middle Eastern site or an Iranian site?

2-If you were forced to pick one & only one image to represent Iran in your mind , what would that image be fe;,al shaikh Hafiz, a masjid, khomeini, shah, Ferdowsi, kebob, Rial, ghom, mashad, Persopolis...etc..?

3-Are you affiliated directly or indirectly within arm's range of any US based lobby groups?.

3-Do you believe , Morsi, erdogan, Nasrollah & khattami are elements of change & reform in middle east? & did you vote for Obama in the last 2 elections?.

4-Have you ever read a book about Iran's history or culture either pre-taazi or post-taazi?

4-Or are you just a clueless & carefree Joe which none of the above applies to you & just makin money off these blogging Nerds without a care about wtf they r talkin about?

&btw, Are you going to be transparent about who your moderators are & their sicio/cultural preference?.



& one more thing, I believe you & JJ have a lot in common in the sense that the Apple doesn,t fall too far from the tree. kabootar baa kabootar , baaz ba baaz or ghaaz or ghaza ;)


Cheers & kind regards pal!

Mehrban

Mehrban

A case in point, if I had not tooped your very relevant News item about Hagel, by being on the news page it would be still sitting in the row with no toop and as a result no exposure. I happened to be in the political news page because I was posting a news item myself otherwise I would have missed it.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Dear Said, Thank you for this thread. I have to emphasize once more the dire state of the News section. As we do not have a latest (posted) news section, many valuable news items do not see the light of day and a number of them stay on top because of toops (I assume) for a long time. Something has to happen on that column. Also some of the "news" is the news of more than forty years ago.

Also we used to have a tab of "Events" that was a calender of Iran related events mostly outside of Iran, including location, date, ticket info, etc. It was very useful.

SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

Hi Mehrban, I think that the News section may of been brought up/discussed earlier in the comments thread, but admittedly this comment thread is quite long now. Anyway, on the new layout News will have its own dedicated page. At that point we can revisit how to sort the news items (tweaks to the algorithm, etc.). Also, we'll have a dedicated module on the right side of the home page for select news items that the Editor wants to feature.

As for events, it's on the radar, but not a priority given the myriad of things that need to get done in order to make the transition to the new layout. In time...

Mehrban

Mehrban

Thank you! I am looking forward to the changes in the News section.

irajkhan

iraj khan Peace Is The Way

Mr Amin,

What is going to be done about Israeli lobby blogger here with 2 blogs a day, rain or shine.

I understand he needs to make a living too but at whose expense?

Belittling Iranian people, culture, religion and history.

This entity that signs its name as 'Fred' has been here for the last few years.

I believe his affliation with Israel Lobby should be mentioned when his blogs and

comments are published in order to be fair with real bloggers who represent only their own

Ideas, thought and feelings.

I'm just saying.

SaidAmin

Saïd Amin Saïd Amin is a tech entrepreneur born in Tehran, Iran. He is the founder/CEO of World Singles Networks, a leading provider of niche online dating services and the Publisher of Iranian.com.

Hello Iraj, thanks for the note. Fred is welcome to continue sharing his thoughts so long as his blogs and comments are in line with the site's guidelines. I will be publishing these guidelines soon.

If he has an affiliation with any particular lobby, I think that it's good form to share it, but that's his choice.

RedWine

شمیرانزاده Researches (reporter & tv journalist) and presents information (Social,Art) in certain types of mass media and also working in diffrent european tv channels

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SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

Esfand ,

I have seen many good contributors left this site because Trolls were allowed to comment and say what ever BS they wanted. That may not effect you and me who are not using our real names but people who come here to contribute with their real names need to be protected from the Trolls ...

Comments can wait ! Guess what we all have to deal with it !

If there is an emergence call 911 ... IC is not 911 !!!!

Furthermore, as Said mentioned there is a safe-list that is going to be implemented as well in which well behaved people regardless of their political views can go ahead and comment without any delay !

You have seen what happened in Bahmani's blog .... All those outrages comments could have been stopped before they get published... IC under JJ and his green light to almost every single Laat-O- Poot was turned to a big Chaaleh Meydoon. Enough is Enoughh ..

If you who exactly are aware of certain behaviors on this site do not understand this then who would ?

I repeat what I said yesterday, many major professional websites do have moderation system and that has contributed to their success.



EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

Darya you are confusing two issues, or at least I think you're confusing the two issues because I'm talking about two separate issues.

For blogs like @BB or his attitude in his blogs = he should be flogged by the new Editors! Pure and simple! The man (or individuals like him) should not be allowed to continue this behavior on their own blogs. I said the same thing in the old website asking JJ to still delete inappropriate comments in individuals' blogs as he is an Editor and within his right to do so.

Second users left the website because either they were attacked in their own blogs or in other people's blog. I strongly believe that people left the old website because of being attacked in their own blogs. JJ didn't give people the freedom to have freedom in their own homes! That was a major issue.

Now if people get attacked in other people's blogs then that is a different story. You don't want a fight don't go to other people's blogs or write your own blog about that person or subject. Or again in case of Bahmani they can be flogged!

Now as far as "professional websites" having moderation policy, not so! CNN, Washington Post and many other social websites do not "moderate" comments before being posted. They allow comments from all registered users and if someone abuses comments then they can be flagged and/or user blocked.

This is crazy that @SaidAmin is going to hire 2 moderators who have enough time to moderate ALL comments but not available to respond to far less flags?!

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

What you are suggesting is not acceptable. I think anyone should feel safe and not harassed while commenting on someone else's blogs. If my intention of being on this site was just to stay in my blog then why I even bother to come to IC...I have the blogger,com to do so !

EsfandAashena

Esfand Aashena http://iranian.com/main/member/esfand-aashena.html

What is not acceptable?! Again please answer my question to get your answer.

Said can hire 2 moderators who have enough time to moderate ALL comments but not available to respond to far less "flags"?! If you feel harrassed while commenting on other people's blog, what's stopping you to flag and what's stopping the moderators to delete and/or block the harrasser?

Again, this moderation policy is scorched earth policy. Punishing everyone else for the transgression of a few. Strong words I know, but this is going to be a major (negative) shift.

faraway

faraway

This remain to be seen. Moderation in an of itself can be beneficial. However, it depends who the moderators are and what kind of biases and prejudices they carry in their ideological baggage.

Who and what determines someone will be an "unbiased" moderator??

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

I see your points but my understanding is that there is going to be a forum policy and rules to follow and if anyone does not follow it when commneting then gets the boot.
I see no reasons that the moderator matters as long as his or her decisons is based on the rules and policies of this forum.