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من حاضرم هر قانونی که بر خلاف مصالح ملت باشد بسوزانم ~ دکتر محمد مصدق

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~ من حاضرم هر قانونی که بر خلاف مصالح ملت باشد بسوزانم.  

 

~ قانون برای مملکت است نه مملکت برای قانون. نجات وطن عالیترین و بزرگترین قانون است.

~ قانون را محترم میشمارند برای اینکه مفید است و هرگاه تشخیص داده شود که به حال مملکت مضر است, وظیفه وجدانی هر فرد است که برای اصلاح یا فسخ آن بکوشد.

~ قانون را برای مملکت میخواهیم، اگر قانون خلاف مصلحت مردم باشد، آنرا زیرپا میگذاریم.

~ قانون را باید طوری وضع کرد که اشخاص بد نتوانند بر خلاف مصالح مملکت و در نفع خود از آن استفاده کنند... قانونی که مخالف میل مردم باشد قانون نیست .



 

آه  که چقدر جایش خالیست ...!

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G.Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian

Dear MRX,

I agree with you 100%. The real problem is the regime back home.

MRX2412

MRX2412

Let's just say if he was alive today and in charge the same people who praise him right and left would have hated him!!!! Yes my friends the grass always looks greener from a far distance.....

To give credit to the great doctor yes he was a believer in law (I should hope so did he not go to law school?) but he was more believer in his own laws and his own tenor and other laws......

In any case pretty pointless discussion since our problem is not him, but the sheikh o omati regime which is nothing but an extension of Iranian psychee..

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

What a coincidence of a Name.
a) MOSSAD-egh,
b) KGB-egh,
c) MI6-egh,
d) SAVAK-egh

which is your favorite family name and why?
Mine is d) SAVAK-egh, my reason is, its the only one that served Iran.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

I had realized that you were a disturbed man; what I did not know or wasn’t quite sure of, was the degree of, or the intensity of your sickness, that stems from MENTAL illness or INSANITY until today!

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for using the hated and nefarious SAVAK, a KGB, KESTAPO type organization, that you and your family may have been a part of; an organization that was designed to murder and intimidate citizens of Iran as servant! This HATED organization had its hands up to its elbows immersed in the blood of the innocent hard working and freedom loving Iranians.

You deserve the Mullahs, since you and your beloved SAVAK were quite instrumental in bringing them to power; they are the off shoot of, and the results of the deeds of the SAVAKi sick men like you!

ghourbagheh

ghourbagheh

I sincerely hope that Amir Parviz posts more and digs deep to his Pahlavi roots. There are a few other monarchists here too. And, nothing can show the true treacherous face of the Pahlavis and their monarchist drones like their comments. Please post more about how great SAVAK was...don't be shy!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

PJ, p.s. neither I nor my family were a part of SAVAK, though upon reflection and having met and spoken with SAVAKI's I am glad and indebted to them that existed and helped serve Justice and Equality by defending Iran's National Security to the point that they were allowed. Also thank you for not lying too much about them, you could have said they tortured people and that would have been a despicable and motivated lie which was used in the past by the media. So much so that in many places among Iranians still to this day, if you say Savak did not torture people can't even believe it. Sad, but true.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Trouble is that you can hardly ever carry out an intelligent or sensible conversation. That’s why I never read your moronic blogs, except for today; they are all transparent saying the same garbage or CRAP, each and every time, i.e. this one!

You yak a lot; yet are unable to make intelligent points or utter anything of substance or value! NOT being intelligent enough is a main problem, it does not allow you to get past your diatribes and into something of value and even into common sense! You, like the hateful crowd you represent, are part of a small group of hateful, defeated, degenerate Shahollahi SAVAKi sickos who combined with your Hezbollah brethren would account for less than 5% of the population.

I, ALSO, second the wise words of ghourbagheh, and encourage you and your ilk to speak out and to spill your guts out…the more you talk, the uglier you become, it also shed light on who you people truly are and your true identity!

You are not worth anymore of my time!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

You are generally untruthful and I wonder what nationality you are Greek, French? Because the Iranian People is something you don't feel for, just your own views. I concede you did say one truth about Savak, it was an institution required for national security of Iranians and it did murder Iranian Citizens who themselves had murdered Iranians and were likely to murder many more.

Unlike other countries you aspire Iran to become like, Savak had to build a case with evidence and bring it before a court.

The Court the agency had to go before acted based on evidence only and was restrained more than in any other country of the same time period time by the government who's security it was responsible for. Only if the cases were approved based on documented evidence of could a person be killed, the FBI and CIA don't even need to prove anything to anyone and have killed on the scale of several hundreds, KGB, MOSSAD and MI5 the same.

Compare this to Iran's case before the revolution, the number was not even a dozen since the agency was created. History has already proven that the late shah team, can be said to have made errors in not killing more proven psychopathic criminals, Khomeini for instance.

Those who Savak knew about and did not kill have since been responsible for the murder of tens thousands of "innocent hard working and freedom loving Iranians". Wait a minute, where is your insincere outrage for the people now??????? People are being executed and tortured based on lies and propaganda that fooled a generation "Hated Organization" was as a result of propaganda not reality.

Instead of clarifying unconfirmed lies propagated upon Iranians 24/7 for 5 years before the revolution, you are insisting upon their truth and therefore misrepresent the late shahs team and Savaki's. Is that what you mean by a Sick man? Are you projecting your own issues on me? If you cared about Justice, you would not be lying about a people that was working for these.

That is the difference between talking facts and spewing out propaganda. Having specific confirmed details. You are on the wrong side of the case with respect to the Iranian Peoples National Security. Just because you are on the same side as the main stream media, the BBC and Amnesty doesn't make the institution that you lie about an unlawful or immoral organization.

Iranians are used to being lectured and lied to for the last 33 years as a result of being deceived. They know that the mass media and the powers that it defends are the ones who torture, unlawfully kill and terrorize others. Their credibility is no longer what it was when everyone used to think the west were run by human beings like what they would see on Hollywood movies, like John Wayne and little house on the prairie.

Improving National Security for the lives of Innocent, hard working, freedom loving Iranians means that Savak was on the moral and lawful side of the equation, especially since it was defending government that pursued peace, progress and human rights for Iranians. Savak was instrumental in ending torture in police stations, an accomplishment for which medals should have been given but were not.

When you say it was a "HATED organization had its hands up to its elbows immersed in the blood of the innocent hard working and freedom loving Iranians." that is out of misinformation and being clueless regarding the military base empire the shahs team and all Iranians were under attack by. the USA was pretending to be an ally, but was clearly based on results a wolf in sheep's clothing for bringing and keeping khomeini and mullahs despite their massive crimes on iranians.

Those who Savak knew about and did not kill have murdered tens of thousands of innocent Iranians and that is another reason you are on the wrong side of the case with respect to the Iranian Peoples National Security. You are factually on the wrong side of the case for historically observable reasons. The direct consequences of not killing some of the thugs who showed no mercy to Iranians and are today killing them in their thousands is clear to Iranians maybe not all, but most. Many wish Savak had killed Khomeini.

ruhany

Ruhany Just another traveller of life ...

... And you were criticizing "mass propaganda" the respond to your "balls" comment Mr Monarchy...?! ... With this new "comment" you really show what a "mass propaganda" is ... and how low one can get with shortage of logic ...!
I repeat what I said before: Just be respectful to yourself Mr Monarchy ...

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

I mentioned traitor/acting as a foreign agent to "no balls" comment.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Logic, truth, honesty, Love and Honor are required to stand up to the mass propaganda spewed out by the west. Read my post above to PJ stephanopulous to get an idea of what views I reject and what are the logical reasons for it.

h.jahanshahi

h.jahanshahi

«قانون را برای مملکت میخواهیم، اگر قانون خلاف مصلحت مردم باشد، آنرا زیرپا میگذاریم.»
در دمکراسی وظیفه قوه مجریه (دولت) اجرای قانون است و وظیفه قوه مقننه (مجلس) تغیر یا اصلاح قانون. منافع مردم هم در درجه اول در حفظ اصل تفکیک قواست و نه اجرای نظر سوبژکتیو اعضای دولت. به جز این هر مستبدی هم میتواند با ادعای خدمت به مردم ازقوانین عبور کند.

G.Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian

Dear Ruhany,

You asked:
"Will we do the same again, if another Mosadegh came?"

It seems as if you have forgotten our country's post-'79 history and what happened to Mosadegh's friends and supporters.

Of course, many including IR's staunch supporters are using Mosadegh's name and his legacy to further their own agenda.

Furthermore, you can see IR's cyber mercenaries even on this site who give lip service to Mosadegh's achievements while at the same time attack and constantly try to discredit those who are upholding his legacy.

fozolie

Mr. Fozolie

کی مردم ایران میخواهند بیدار شوند وشارلاتانهایی متل این قاجارزاده را دریافته دست از امامزاده سازی بردارند

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

آقای روحانی



اینجانب یکی‌ از ارادتمندان و ستایشگران مرحوم دکتر محمد مصدق بوده و همیشه از ایشان به نیکی‌ یاد می‌کنم. هرچند نهضت ملی‌ شدن نفت را نمی‌‌توان حاصل کار یک نفر دانست ولی اگر به رهبری آن بزرگمرد نبود شاید حالا حالا‌ها نفت را از زیر یوغ استعمار بریتانیای تجاوز گر‌ نمی‌‌توانستیم بیرون بیاوریم. بنابرین در وطن دوستی‌ و عظمت کار آن انسان بزرگ جای تردیدی نیست.

سوال بنده از شما اینست که اگر به جای امضای "محمد مصدق" که در پای گفته‌های آن بزرگوار آمده است امضای دیگر کسانی‌ بود که همانند ایشان خدمات زیادی به ایران کرده بودند ولی‌ معتقد بودند که اگر قانونی میخواستند عمل کنند هرگز مصدر چنین خدماتی نمی‌‌توانستند باشند، مثل رضا شاه و یا پسرش محمد رضا شاه پهلوی که دقیقا همین نوع استدلالات را میکردند. آنوقت شما با همین شور و هیجانی که در اینجا قلم می‌زنید قلم میزدید. اگر نه چرا و اگر بله چرا؟

اردتمد

راجر خرگوش

ruhany

Ruhany Just another traveller of life ...

ای گرامی ... فکر نمی کنم که با مرور منصفانه تاریخ کسی در این نکته شکی داشته باشد که مصدق شاید سلطنت طلب ترین فرد تاریخ معاصر ایران است، اما اینکه او و سلطنتی که او بدان باور دشت اکنون در دو جایگاه متفاوت تاریخی قرار گرفته اند به همین اصل پیروی از قانونی بر می گردد که منافع ملت را در صدر اولویت قرار میدهد نه منافع شخصی را... اگربه قانون اساسی مشروطه که برایش آن همه تلاش و جانفشانی شد و به اصل جدایی سلطنت و حکومت آنطور که در حکومت های مشروطه دیگر سراغ داریم عمل میشد آیا رویداد های پس از آن در ایران روی میداد؟ آیا خواست اجرای مفاد قانون اساسی مشروطه از شاه، خواست جدایی سلطنت و حکومت، اشتباه مصدق بوده است که قانون مردمی را فرای هر چیز دیگر قرار می داد؟ ای گرامی... آن گفته ها در زیر عکس مصدق تنها "گفته" نیست ...همگی به عمل در آمده و با تاریخ محک خورده است ... هر کس دیگری هم که میخواهد بر آن جایگاه تاریخی که مصدق تکیه زده است تکیه بزند و از همان احترام برخوردار باشد میبایست همچو او به قانون مردمی احترام بگذارد ... آن را عمل کند و سر بلند از محک تاریخی بیرون بیاید تا شایسته آن "شور و هیجانی" باشد که بدان اشاره کرده اید ... "اگر" چنین شده باشد و یا بشود، پاسخ من به پرسش شما با احترام به همان قانونی که مصدق به آن احترام گذاشت بلی خواهد بود .

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Mossadegh had no real balls.

For real balls, you have to obey the FSM see for yourself
http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7076

ghourbagheh

ghourbagheh

That is such a ignorant statement. Mossadegh had more courage and love for his country than the entire coward Pahlavi clan, including Reza Pahlavi who is hiding in US with his stolen loot being dished out to him by Henry Kissinger every month. The Pahlavis are dead in Iran. And the more that you spew your deranged pontification, the more you demonstrate how out of touch the Pahlavi cult are. Reza can only hope for supporters like you. It says volumes about him!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Helllooo........ooooo This blog is about is about Mosaddeq, NOT crown Reza Pahlavi

ruhany

Ruhany Just another traveller of life ...

Mr Amir Parviz for Secular MONARCHY... Just be honest and respectful to yourself when you talk about balls ...... One who flees his "beloved country" two times hoping to be brought back to power by others, has "real balls"? OR one who battles Great Britain to save our national resources, stays to get "punished" and overthrown, taken to "court", sent to exile, and dies in his homeland?

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Ruhany, I appreciate your comment, its value for me comes from the fact that it gives us a chance to see one each others points of views and beliefs. Of course I do not agree with the way you see it, for me your point of view is in harmony with old mass propaganda, not reason & obviously propaganda is the height of dishonesty used by enemies who are at war and clearly both the king and country of Iran are under attack today.

In this case the war with Iranians focuses on creating divide and rule, against the Iranian MONARCHY, an institution which has proven its nationalist and democratic credentials in action by putting the people of Iran first, caring that the people enjoyed the largest growth of middle class and the largest growth of skilled workers and education in the world. http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/6853 and made gradual changes to.

The propaganda from the USA, the UK and France generally doesn't acknowledge the Peace, Progress and Human Rights that was far far better than any of their countries, we had no record of aggression, did not break international laws and never tortured our own citizens or others. Our King never had the Dictatorial Powers to indefinitely detain anyone, or have them killed with out a court and proof of them being a threat to the lives of many.

Iran was about being able to have different people express different points of view and interpret laws themselves with no leader imposing on this. Of course there were limits to our freedom. Those who we were at war with (Commies) or that were at war with us (MeK/Mullahs) were not allowed to participate, and all others were free to. No Individual was ever prevented in registering politically.

Even when Rastakhiz was established no one was ever told they could not join if they were left or right or had various ideologies because they could hold any ideology (except communism and religious fascism for the obvious reason that they are both anti-democratic, extremist and intolerant of any other view point).

To be honest, you have to not make leaps of faith in gaining information, but go right to the source. Those who worked with him not interpretations. The late shahs greatest strength was that he was a peace lover and wanted this for Iranians. Fleeing his country and not resisting is something peaceful people do and other peaceful people can not grasp. On the other hand courage is taking on the USA, the UK and France all together at once in favor of Iranians when they actively opposed the development, democratic progress and freedom of Iranians.

If you knew who the shah was, or what his team had accomplished with clarity based on the experience of people that worked with him, you could interpret by yourself why leaving Iran when he knew he was 100% a dead man with the same cancer his prime minister and personal doctor were dying from was wiser than resisting the Wests manufactured and orchestrated revolution to thwart Iran.

The betrayals the shah faced upon leaving Iran were priceless in showing the hypocrisy, deceit and dishonesty of the west against him. When you say he was brought back by the power of others, you are partially right because The UK/Russia were fully behind Mossadegh using all their propaganda rags to support him, he was the populist demagogue "the nationalist, the patriot, the democrat" are all bs who was politically, for the few who understand the science, a British agent.

So under these circumstances, If you were honestly caring to understand Iran's dangerous predicament, the shah needed the political backing of the USA/Superpower to over ride others who were in a clear alliance backing mossadegh. That the Shah had the USA come to him and beg him to return and that he used the USA's political cover, and then was brought back with his own supporters in Iran, the land owners, the military & clergy, showed genius on the shahs teams part. He followed the wise path of peace as it was in his nature. The Shahs move was so effective that the Brits had to betray mossadegh their own agent after helping him.

The battle for our national resources was a populist ploy, and the way it was done by Mossadegh harmed Iran in favor of the UK to which we lost our right to a percentage of kuwaiti, Iraqi and other nation oil incomes for ever. Not to mention all the parties investors in BP were holding as they received huge compensations in fines as a result of mossadeghs approach. That Irans oil was nationalized was based not on Mossadegh, but because it was something the late shahs team was in favor of and it was a goal of the Monarchy. Mossadegh like Khomeini was a major case of treason to King and People of Iran. So for me he scores low with respect to having balls and those who stand up for Iranian Freedom intelligently like the shahs team did based on their record get my kudos.

This issue will not go away as the west uses it to this day to divide and rule and Mossadeghollahis are suckers for their guy, that many still believe the manipulations is because the lies are put forward today on every channel on the subject from stephen kinzer in order to develop disagreement.

My view is In your case the public and corporate mass media which control the minds of intellectuals and dishonestly meets the agendas of its owners) would really take a lot of knowledge and time to answer thoroughly. And what I have put forward already took me to long.

Being Honest implies being fair and giving you the right to your own view, explaining mine and not making you less for holding your views regardless of my attack against it, so you need to be clear when i attack your view it is not you I attack, just your view. You and others are decent people, with what the media says about mossadegh and the insincerity and Bullshit behind it If you really believe it, I can honestly say you are entitled to think of him as a good guy, however for me, I have very good reason to believe mossadegh was a traitor, who Russia and the UK used against Iran and still do to this day. Except now we have the USA that loves the IRI and suppression of Iranians, wanting to be a Mossadegh supporter and join with Russia and Britain and France and all who want to keep Iranians weak and remove their Proven Institution for Iranian Independence from foreign interference and Democracy, "the Monarchy".

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"One who flees his "beloved country" two times hoping to be brought back to power by others, has "real balls"?" Ruhany
Wrong, that is NOT called "not having real balls" . It is called "democratic mentality". The person who has a heart for his people and doesn't want to see his country men/women laid in blood leaves his country to "stop the bloodshed". That is compeletly deomocratic mentality. Criminal mullahs will kill every single Iranians till the end and don't want to leave. That is not called "mullahs have balls". They don't have heart for Iranians. That is called "savage and blood thirsty".
"one who battles Great Britain" Ruhany
When? The history shows different scenario. Oil concession was signed in 1901 by Mosaddeq's opium addict uncle known as "Mozafaredin shah". Mosaddeq was quite. All those years that Qajar family was receiving money from Great Britain Mosaddeq was quite. In fact, he was silent more than 50 years. Eventually he wanted to ousted our shahanshah simply by setting his old scorn and take his revenge from Pahlavi's dynasty.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Great response! Trouble is that the Shahollahi/Hezbollah camp is made up of a small group of shameless, IGNORANT characters, completely oblivious to historical facts, and for the past 35+ years in hard pursuit of emasculating or rewriting the WELL established history of the past 100+ years. They have tried HARD to turn a coward traitor like M R Pahlavi into some imaginary character that he wasn’t.

Souri

Souri

Dear Ruhani

I like almost all your posts and I follow them.
But about Mossadegh, although I have lots of respect for him, but I think the time of rozeh khaani about the past, is really over.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Milking Mossadegh will continue for a long time and after all the propaganda put out to support him his divisive value is priceless to those who wish to dominate iran, regardless of the treason of his party/supporters which worked with the west to remove Iran's Monarchy, Freedom and Independence in 1979 and brought Iran suppression, tyranny, poverty and loss. Iranians Democratic Movement needs to be done by the people of Iran who are genuinely nationalist and independent based on their actions not their words.