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Was the Late Shah a "Secular" Monarch?

Balatarin

 

According to a popular religious tradition in Iran, when somebody wants to go on a journey, he/she makes three passes under the Koran in order to be safe on the way and then have a safe return. This picture shows the last monarch of Iran, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi (1919-1980; reigned from 1941 to 1979), on his last day (January 16, 1979) in Iran, when he, amidst a seething revolution, is about to get on the plane to leave the country, never to return. Now, there is nothing wrong with being religious as long as you keep it to yourself. After all, it is your right to have your own belief. However, making religion an instrument of the state is an apparent encroachment upon the rights of the citizens.

 

For the past thirty-four years, the enthusiastic advocates of the late Shah, in order to promote their cause at the expense of the Islamic Republic, have made a career out of it to boast that the Shah was a “secular” monarch. The truth is, he was not, and this picture only shows the tip of the iceberg. The Islamization of Iran as a political expediency and the suppression of secular intellectuals in order, reportedly, to stymie the approaches of the former Soviet Union, with the apparent assistance of the capitalist world powers, was a well-rehearsed policy under the late Shah long before the revolution started; and that was mainly what created the seedbed for the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in Iran during later decades. As we can see, things do not just appear with a crack out of nowhere; they all have a long and strenuous history….

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MRX2412

MRX2412

No offense but this a dumb posting! Shah of Iran was a leader of country where majority of its populace was/is religious, superstitious and backward (Again no offense to the noble secular folks on this site). When you look deep amongst the opposition to the shah and to the previous regime all you see is deep devotion to sheikh o omati mumbo jumbo by the opponents even if they masked as red and called it socialist , leftist or anti imperialistic and so on!!!
What exactly was he supposed to do? Stand in the middle of a square and burn Quran? Execute mullahs by tens of thousands? Unleash security police and burn and destroy any mosque and emamzadeh for thousands miles across the country? declare himself as atheist to the nation and foreign media?

For 70 years Bolshevik fought religion by hammer and nail just to see it bounce back bigger than before! Turkey with its strong tradition of force secularism saw a rise of gradual Islamists and now they are in control (They are not as wacky as ours but never less you get the point)
At the end of the day, apple does not fall far from the tree.
What we had until 1979 could have been may be a tad better but that’s about it and not a whole lot more when you take all the elements
in consideration.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

The 1979 revolution was not a real revolution, but a coup d'etat executed by large institutions within the USA, pentagon and CIA, against the Shah, and lead to disproportionate acts of revenge against innocent people. The coming revolution will be a revolution, even though with many external players, it will have a dictatorial, tyrannical, despot in power, not an angel like the late shah we had in Iran.

Iranians are chained by their minds today by the few who control the minds of many. What is funny is they can't tell you the difference between a cross between my little pony, tinker bell, lassie and winnie the pooh we had pursuing peace for all Iranians, who couldn't harm a flee or take absolute control of anything under any circumstance and a dictator for example like stalin, hitler or khomeini. and yet they want to convince you about the truth!

You are totally correct about what you say above. If you get the point that the agitation of the masses and movements are organized by soft power, media focused on propaganda, organizations. Reality is 1979 didn't need to happen. It happened because the USA pursued it and did everything to push for it on every organized institutional level. Today's news shows the hypocrisy and the lies of the past and present http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7595

The US tried the same thing in China during Tianneman square, the story was different as the shah was too close to the USA and his life had already been compromised in 1974, he was dying with the cancer given to him and Iranians would have not been able to see a peaceful transition to his son.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Secular in my mind implies the separation of Church and State which Iran had under the king. Islam was as per the constitution of Iran the official religion of the country, I am not sure what that means in terms of constitutional law. However, the legal system was not based on Sharia or religious edicts (so the legal system was undoubtedly secular) which is most important.

It is true that the king was to an extent superstitious and also religious which does not make for a religious State. Also it is true that the king was most threatened by the left and did as a strategy strengthen the Islamist factions to buttress against the Left. I have only read the article and not all the comments. Sorry if I have repeated what may have been said before.

Regarding the above mentioned, I have to characterize Iran of the Pahlavi era as a Secular state.

Liberty

Liberty

It is not surprising that Reza Kharchizadeh always makes a fool of himself. One gets astonished to observe the extent of ignorance demonstrated by a self-proclaimed "scholar" who makes unsubstantiated claims such as above-stated nonsense to tarnish the last monarchy in Iran, yet he fails to provide evidence of "Islamization: of the country! The late Shah was a devout muslim and he has stated it publicly but Iran's laws were not based on Shariah contrary to what reactionary revolutionaries such as Kharchizadeh's parents brought about. Under Shah's government, Iranian men and women enjoyed equal rights, female ministers, judges, parliamentarians served in all branches of the government.

When he refers to "suppression of secular intellectuals" he is most likely referring to armed (atheist) anarchists and Fadaye/ MEK terrorists who were involved in most atrocious crimes from abduction of individuals, planting anti-personnel landmines (at Persepolis during 2,500 year celebration of the Persian Empire) to shooting on police officers and setting off bombs.

It is remarkable that nonsense uttered by Kharchizadeh is absolutely identical to the type of propaganda and smears used by the current thugocracy (Legacy of Kharchizadeh's revolutionary parents) against undeniable achievements of Pahlavi dynasty. It goes without saying that almost all ordinary Iranians refer to the late Shah as "Oon khuda biamorz" meaning God bless him hence that's why the remnants of reactionary revolutionaries react in such foolish fashion.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mzN5ZBPsPbg/UQgxFyThihI/AAAAAAAAAeM/5yzu636Rxvw/s1600/Slide6.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rcPkaTUwaSE/UQgxEaAM3II/AAAAAAAAAd0/OS2Ud3gWi6c/s1600/Slide5.JPG

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I honestly hope that leftovers of revolutionary thugs live long enough to be held accountable for crimes they have committed in the future free Iran in accordance with article 10 of UDHR so that the era of impunity for revolutionary thugs is ended.

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

Though this comment contains gross abuses against my person and makes a shameless apology for the tyrannical monarchy, I prefer to retain it so that everybody can see what sort of people the advocates of the former regime are. It is against this abuse and tyranny that we have been fighting for more than a century now. We do not hit back with abuse; we fight "democratically" for democracy.

Liberty

Liberty

Dear Kharchizadeh, quite conspicuously a Khar does understand more than all the remnants of revolutionary thugs combined. Having said that, what makes supporters of reactionary revolutionaries afraid of a fair trial (as defined by article 10 of UDHR) for the crimes they committed and innocent lives they brutally took? Don't you agree that your revolutionary fathers must have refrained from celebrating whilst burning a duty soldier alive after the army had declared its impartiality?

I have offered evidence to put your profound ignorance under the spotlight to which you have nothing to add. You are most likely to be a useful idiot as your libelous and false statements are in line with same smears used by the murderous regime in Iran for the past 34 years and in fact it is fair to say that IRI thugs benefit from your writings the most, however please be my guest and feel free to dig yourself in further.


rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

I'd like to keep this as well. By the way, for my non-Persian-speaking readers, the word "Khar" that this gentleman (or lady) keeps using to address me stands for "ass/donkey" in Persian.

faraway

faraway

thanks Liberty. I did not know about this incident. Who is his revolutionary fathers?

Liberty

Liberty

Dearest Kharchizadeh is perhaps ashamed of introducing his revolutionary parents to the audience. It is needless to say that from common criminal-turned revolutionaries to those Islamo-Marxists who committed atrocious crimes, they now generally wish to decline their participation in what led to be the beginning of current thugocracy.

faraway

faraway

I just read his bio. He was born in 1980. He has no inkling of what it means to live under a secular government with secular laws in a majority Shia society. We really have fallen so low to allow opportunist like him and Terri to define secularism pre-shia medieval theocracy.

Liberty

Liberty

Tell me about it. I truly feel sorry for this attention-seeking opportunist, nevertheless IRI praises such useful idiots as long as they discharge what is expected of them.

In my humble opinion, the following revolutionary knows far more about secularisim than Kharchizadeh:

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

Maybe you're right. Hey, listen: why don't you like my Facebook public page? There you can defame me as much as you like.

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

Now, that is libel. Please don't hesitate to produce documents if there are any. But until then, be courteous to the public and do not shame yourself.

Parviz4

Parviz

Reza,
These Sahaollahi’s are so dumb that after 34 years they still have not realized that it was their Shahnshah Aryamehr that caused the revolution in the first place. Without his despotism, his megalomania, and the resulting widespread corruption there would have never been a revolution.

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

Thank you, Parviz. You are absolutely right. However, we shouldn't really expect the Shahollah to understand this, for they never think. Their mind has been designed only to follow orders, like autonomous. That is why I don't really get upset when they abuse me, for they have no will in doing that, it is just their impulse.

Drafsheh

Drafsheh It's easy to stand with the crowd, it take courage to stand alone

It's sad that you have resorted to Trita's tactic of censorship and decided to remove my unoffensive post. what is the difference between a shahollhi , chalabiallah or ghotbzadehallh?

I noticed, one of his staunch supporter of NIAC is cheering you on. That is a bad sign for your political career.

Court documents :

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2008cv0705-189

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

I deleted your previous comment because it was only libel. And who is cheering me on? There is nothing in this document. I searched for my name.

Drafsheh

Drafsheh It's easy to stand with the crowd, it take courage to stand alone

Talk about being obtuse. Your name was not supposed to be there. I was giving you a heads up on associating with NIAC; hence the posting of trita's laws suit document....You keep using libel as a panacea when you are intellectually challenged. Subsequently, don't expect people to take you seriously with such a low threshold to hear opposing point of views. Perhaps, you need to pursue a different career, eh?

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

I wonder if you have anything to say about the "content." If not, please be kind enough as not to litter the comment box with useless junk.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Also, the title of the blog needs further refinement to clarify the question you are asking. For example Obama is (or at least claims to be) a religious man. He goes to church before his inauguration. However, United States of America over which he presides is a Secular State.

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

Oh my God! What a revelation!! Reza joon did you reach this conclusion on your own or were you inspired by your, shall we say, role model, Trita Parsi (another Swedish export to world of every-Iranian-is-a-political-specialist)? No disrespect to your 27 "scholarly books" that you posted under radio koocheh!

Now Reza joon lets examine the evidence: was the Shah's sustained campaign to curb and out-root the influence of the clergy over such fundamental institutions as education (schools - mixed or co-ed and universities), judiciary, women's right, land ownership, and many more is the evidence of his being non-secular? How about admission of non-Muslims (Bahais, Zorasterians, etc.) into key government and public sector positions? No? Not good enough Reza joon? Boy o boy, you Swedish Iranians are so hard to satisfy aren't you? OK lets talk about your poetry Reza joon.How about your master piece: Jingle Jangle!!

Demo

Demo

Made my day again with your comment Roger the Hare! Thanks!

This comment was removed by the Iranian.com Staff for violating our Commenting Standards

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

Thanks for the comment, Roger Rabbit. Actually, I only have written four books so far, so I wouldn't possibly know about 27! And yes, I really like that poem of mine. So good of you to mention that oldie.

7495

عموجان

I use to feel good calling myself a Muslim and be a Pahlavi supporter, these days I am only proud of what Shah did for Iran but hate to be called a Muslim Since Islamic Republic shown me what the real Islam is all about, Revenge.
Even My old mother didn’t hold Ghoraan over my head leaving on my last visit.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

What people don't know and can never realize as a result of this disaster is that the IRI and mullahs are not muslim of Islam they betrayed it and the shah and destroyed the country, khomeini was a pure killer, sexist, thief. He himself ordered that most of the real muslim clergy terrored/Killed under the pretense of having been supporters of the shah. The Reality is that true muslims before khomeini used to be Monarchists and the loss is both to Islam and the culture of Iran, as islam cleaned the floor in comparison to christianity and jeudaism, now we are have lost that element of having a better religion that did not interfere in government. These Mullahs today are pure thieves and liars who are into revenge as you know. Sadly most of my family from women to children to men stopped the daily prayers and flushed the religion and faith in it down the toilet too as a result of the behavior of these scammers who only left a religion dead among people and actively practiced by the remaining few who no one wants to be a part of as they are the most helpless, stupid and ignorant people. They didn't kill god, just islam.

JahanshahRashidian3

Jahanshah Rashidian

Appeasement to Islam was in the two camps: the West and East – we had and still have leftist apologists. Encroachment on civil rights and even ethics of Iranian people started with the Safavids in 6th.century and continued under the Shah.

rezaparchizadeh

Reza Parchizadeh Author & Activist

I think it's more complicated than that. But you are right to a great extent. Thank you for taking the time to explaining things which the mainstream usually does not.

Roger_Rabbit

Roger_Rabbit Framed

Don't be shy Reza joon say something about secularism of the Shah. We can always Jingle Jangle :o))

Mille

Mille

با نویسنده مطلب موافقم. کافی است که نوشته های کسروی را بخوایند یا مصاحبه شاه با وقتی که مصاحبه شاه با اوریانا فالاچی را بخوانیم، پی می‌بریم که خیر، خانه از پای بست ویران بوده است. پادشاه مدعی ساختن کشور مدرن، ساختمان‌ها و سدها و فرودگاه‌ها را روی بنیان سست افکار پوسیده‌ای بنا کرده بود، که امروز رمالان و دعانویسان شمال شهر تهران مبشر آن هستند. نوشته کسروی بعد از روی کار امدن پهلوی دوم در مورد اوضاع ایران: «ایران به طور محسوس وآشکار دچار ارتجاع گردیده به این معنی که کارهای ستوده و سودمندی که در سال های گذشته رخ داده بود دوباره باز پس گردانیده شده: ایلات که به زیر انتظام درآمده بودند بحال اول بازگشتند، رخت و کلاه یکسان که بهم خورده بود هیکلهای سخره آور دوباره در خیابان ها نمودارشدند، سینه زنی وقمه زنی و این قبیل اعمال وحشیانه ماه محرم که ممنوع شده بود دوباره آزاد گردید، زنها که از چادر بیرون آمده بودند آزادی یافتند که بآن بازگرداند، درویش ها وگل مولاها مجاز شدند که در بازار به گدایی پردازند. از این قبیل کارها که همه میدانند نیاز به شمردن نیست. در بعضی از شهر ها کار به جایی رسیده است که گرمابه نمره را بسته اند و خزینه ای عمومی که سر تا پا بسته شده بودند را دوباره باز کردند. اینها لطمه به آبروی وحیثیت ایران است.» کسروی: روی سخنم با شاهنشاه جوان ایرانست. اعلیحضرت درس خوانده‌اند و اروپا دیده‌اند و از همه چیز آگاهند. چرا از سود توده خود ناآگاهی می‌نمایند؟! چرا راهی را که توانند رفت نمی‌روند؟!
یک واژه« سیاست » ما را قانع نخواهد گردانید. این واژه را وزیران بدخواه از خود تراشیده به
گوش اعلیحضرت رسانیده‌اند. آن کدام سیاستست که بدبختی بیست میلیون توده را می‌خواهد؟! آن
کدام همسایه است که با این آشکاری با ما دشمنی می‌نماید؟!
من سیاستی نمی‌شناسم که ما را به چنین زبونی و بیچارگی ناچار گرداند. اگر هم چنان سیاستی
هست ما ناچار از پذیرفتن آن نیستیم. در جهان هیچ نیرویی نیست که بتواند ما را به غوطه خوردن درمی‌ان آلودگیهای« قرون وسطی » و بیرون نیامدن از توی آن‌ها ناچار سازد..