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Was the Late Shah a "Secular" Monarch?

Balatarin

 

According to a popular religious tradition in Iran, when somebody wants to go on a journey, he/she makes three passes under the Koran in order to be safe on the way and then have a safe return. This picture shows the last monarch of Iran, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi (1919-1980; reigned from 1941 to 1979), on his last day (January 16, 1979) in Iran, when he, amidst a seething revolution, is about to get on the plane to leave the country, never to return. Now, there is nothing wrong with being religious as long as you keep it to yourself. After all, it is your right to have your own belief. However, making religion an instrument of the state is an apparent encroachment upon the rights of the citizens.

 

For the past thirty-four years, the enthusiastic advocates of the late Shah, in order to promote their cause at the expense of the Islamic Republic, have made a career out of it to boast that the Shah was a “secular” monarch. The truth is, he was not, and this picture only shows the tip of the iceberg. The Islamization of Iran as a political expediency and the suppression of secular intellectuals in order, reportedly, to stymie the approaches of the former Soviet Union, with the apparent assistance of the capitalist world powers, was a well-rehearsed policy under the late Shah long before the revolution started; and that was mainly what created the seedbed for the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in Iran during later decades. As we can see, things do not just appear with a crack out of nowhere; they all have a long and strenuous history….

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ArtificialIntelligence

Artificial Intelligence

Yes the Shah was a secular Monarch...And he was a Muslim! Is the Queen of England none secular because she attends church? Was Bill Clinton non Secular because he attended Church every Sunday? I could care less for the Monarchy but you are just dead wrong...I was only 9 when I left Iran right before the revolution and I even remember nudity on TV. And you know the Shah controlled everything in the press... The majority of the country was stupid to listen to an idiot Mullah by the name of khomeini who sanctioned sex with animals and who hated Iran; even our dear leftists who supported the revolution followed the teachings of another idiot by the name of Shariati...Our nation was simply stupid and did not appreciate what they had. The shah, with all his faults, was a million times better than the jackasses who are in control today. The tudeh, islamist leftist and most importantly the National Front all supported the animal Khomeini. This was the real problem with our nation not the Shah walkig under the Koran and taking it easy on the clergy...All kings before him had taken it easy on the clergy and they had stayed out of politics...The Shah was no different

MRX2412

MRX2412

No offense but this a dumb posting! Shah of Iran was a leader of country where majority of its populace was/is religious, superstitious and backward (Again no offense to the noble secular folks on this site). When you look deep amongst the opposition to the shah and to the previous regime all you see is deep devotion to sheikh o omati mumbo jumbo by the opponents even if they masked as red and called it socialist , leftist or anti imperialistic and so on!!!
What exactly was he supposed to do? Stand in the middle of a square and burn Quran? Execute mullahs by tens of thousands? Unleash security police and burn and destroy any mosque and emamzadeh for thousands miles across the country? declare himself as atheist to the nation and foreign media?

For 70 years Bolshevik fought religion by hammer and nail just to see it bounce back bigger than before! Turkey with its strong tradition of force secularism saw a rise of gradual Islamists and now they are in control (They are not as wacky as ours but never less you get the point)
At the end of the day, apple does not fall far from the tree.
What we had until 1979 could have been may be a tad better but that’s about it and not a whole lot more when you take all the elements
in consideration.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

The 1979 revolution was not a real revolution, but a coup d'etat executed by large institutions within the USA, pentagon and CIA, against the Shah, and lead to disproportionate acts of revenge against innocent people. The coming revolution will be a revolution, even though with many external players, it will have a dictatorial, tyrannical, despot in power, not an angel like the late shah we had in Iran.

Iranians are chained by their minds today by the few who control the minds of many. What is funny is they can't tell you the difference between a cross between my little pony, tinker bell, lassie and winnie the pooh we had pursuing peace for all Iranians, who couldn't harm a flee or take absolute control of anything under any circumstance and a dictator for example like stalin, hitler or khomeini. and yet they want to convince you about the truth!

You are totally correct about what you say above. If you get the point that the agitation of the masses and movements are organized by soft power, media focused on propaganda, organizations. Reality is 1979 didn't need to happen. It happened because the USA pursued it and did everything to push for it on every organized institutional level. Today's news shows the hypocrisy and the lies of the past and present http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7595

The US tried the same thing in China during Tianneman square, the story was different as the shah was too close to the USA and his life had already been compromised in 1974, he was dying with the cancer given to him and Iranians would have not been able to see a peaceful transition to his son.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

It is tough for our site members to break from chains, when they believe the media, journalists, elected leaders, and their own tv industry, not exactly any saying the truth.
For insight http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7595
for fun http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7595
for truth http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7595
for any reason http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7595

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Secular is the great concept the enlightenment of europe got from Iran, the only place with it. Lets hope we don't get their shitty values in practice and can restore our monarchy http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7595 as this post goes to point out they are not exactly being fair about themselves.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Also, the title of the blog needs further refinement to clarify the question you are asking. For example Obama is (or at least claims to be) a religious man. He goes to church before his inauguration. However, United States of America over which he presides is a Secular State.

trawetsdor

trawetsdor

اگر حوصله ای باشد دو لینک زیر ارزش وقت گذاشتن دارن. نه برای دفاع از این و دفع آن بلکه قدمی برای کاهش تشنج توی کله هممون. شاید قد داد و یه مثقال آرامش فکری پیدا کردیم. شاید آنوقت به جای سرودن جمله بعدی قدم بعدی را برداریم. هممون مثل جمهوری اسلامی هستیم. هیچ وقت از فاز انقلابی بیرون نمیایم. ملتی که نمیتونه هیچ نبردی را ببره همواره مثل حکومتهایش در جنگ میمونه. اینجوری هیچ وقت جنگ را نباخته.


اولی به قلم داریوش برداری روانکاو ایرانی ساکن آلمان در وب-سایت ایران گلوبال و دومی که قبلاً هم وصلش کرده بودم به قلم محمد قاید منتشر شده در سایت خودش

http://www.iranglobal.info/node/8873

http://mghaed.com/ay/shah.pdf