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saboohi

saboohi

باجی خانم پیداش شد. اصلا کجا هست این خانم و چی کار می کنه؟ از وقتی که مسائل گوانتانمو زیاد مطرح نیست، باجی خانم از سر بیکاری و سر رفتن حوصله، بیچاره مجبوره در مسائل حقوق بشر ایرانی ها هم کم کمکی حرفی بزنه. البته از فعالیتهاش باید خدا وکیلی از شرکتش در مهمانی نایاک و عکس یادگاری با تریتا هم یاد کرد.

Mehrban

Mehrban

True, her (mostly) silence on Iranian issues is deafening.

Fred

Fred

Thank you Mrs Ebadi. I only wish when you were given the Nobel and the eyes of the entire world were on you, you would have given Iran precedence over the Guantanamo Bay detainees.

Mehrban

Mehrban

I hear she is on some committee at UN for world hunger. Of course we are all "big picture" kinda guys/gals.

Fred

Fred

"Of course we are all "big picture" kinda guys/gals"
Bingo!

Rea2527

Rea

Stop criticizing Shirin.
She's done more for human rights in Iran than any of you would ever do writing on i.com.
Not even misled European leftist (Ahme's follower) would dare rubbish Shirin.
In other words, she is a powerful weapon.

Now.
Having said the above, who is Amir Mousaei ?
[URL="http://soliranparis.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/amir-mousaei-un-autre-prisonnier-politique-iranien-tue-sous-la-torture/"]Amir Mousaei[/URL]

Would like to get my facts straight before I post it where a lot of people read it. Including IRI Embassy reps.

choghok

choghok Your enemie's enemy is necessarily not a friend.

I guess the reason she pisses some people off is because she is for peace, she doe s not endorse violence and that makes her in eyes of some people here a coward. But the same people who call her coward has not done a million of what she has done for their country.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Not true Choghok, I am for peace too.

Rea2527

Rea

@faraway, thx for posting.
My other comment is addressed to those criticizing, not to you.

How quick we all are when it comes to criticizing.
Yet, what have you done personally ?

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

Rea , Shirin Ebadi has made the Iranian women proud! If she runs for anything she surely has my vote. Also, please note that Shirin bashing has been going on since the war in Iraq started. She openly declared her opposition against war with Iraq and since then warmongers neocons such as Daniel Pipe has been good at her character assassination. Further more, her antiwar position continues to be the case cause she is very loud in being against war on Iran something that Daniel Pipe openly advocates for. These things have deeper roots and we should be wise enough to see the root of the problem.

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

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saboohi

saboohi

Relationship with Trita and Hadi Ghaemi ( Iran lobby ) alone is enough to be discredited. Com'on Rea, let's be honest. Is it all she can do? Praising conformity of Islam with human rights? Praising regime's nuke project in a joint article with Mohamad Sahimi, another IRI A..kisser? Do you want me to list more?

Mehrban

Mehrban

What have you done personally is a bit of a silly question in this context (with all due respect Rea). Shirin Ebadi is a Nobel Prize Laureate, with that accolade comes amazing platforms, power and protection to drive your cause. Given that position, she has said and done painfully little for Iran. She has written bogus sophomoric articles and has pontificated about guantanamo bay (for example). As a peace prize winner like a little school girl she along with Akbar Ganji has hopped and skipped out of the ceremony for a prize given to the editor of the Danish magazine with the Prophet Mohammad' cartoons to highlight his freedom of speech. What kind of a peace prize laureate is so blatantly intolerant.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Mehrban,

Although, not one of her fans, one has to realize that she is walking on egg shells, a single misstep and she is a goner! I am sure she knows all that and more and takes many precautions; all she is able to do is to be gingerly, and take baby steps cautiously. She is dealing with a ruthless group of GESTAPO/KGB/SAVAK like characters that would not hesitate silencing her on a heartbeat as they have done so to those other opposition groups.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Dear PJ, I guess if people are afraid they are afraid and they should do as it suits them. But I also have to say, (for example), Nasrin Sotoudeh in Evin shows more signs of political life than Ms. Ebadi in freedom.

Mehrban

Mehrban

I have no connection or particular affection for Neocons and I don't know who Daniel Pipe is outside of tidbits on IC. But it does not take a genius to see that Ms. Ebadi's performance in relation to the state of affairs in Iran, given her position has been DISMAL.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Dear Mehrban,

Daniel Pipe is one of the most radical of the neocons! He has been encouraging war with Iran that goes back to Bush administration. He has reappeared after a period of absence, preaching the same idiotic message(s). I believe that he is well connected to the Israeli Lobby, and other more nefarious groups of war mongers!

Mehrban

Mehrban

Choghok why did you dislike my comment? Tell me what do you think Ms. Ebadi has said (let alone done) that should make me respect her as an independent thinker and leader. She has only been a at best a follower of the Reformist party line. This article is a case in point, Hasn't the same content more or less been discussed on this very site for a long time? Do we need Ms. Ebadi (a noble laureate to write this article) what is in this article that we don't know or our very own bloggers have not said long time ago? What does she demand of the regime to do here?

I could go on for a long time about the blatant lack of content in this article but I don't have the time and am not sure it is worth it.

Indeed thank you Faraway for posting. It is important for us to be abreast of the news.

choghok

choghok Your enemie's enemy is necessarily not a friend.

You do not need to hear what she has said, you need to know that she was a judge before revolution, after revolution because she was a woman she was thrown out but she has fought the injustice by becoming a lawyer and fighting for peoples right for freedom of speech for example. And many of lawyers are now in jail in IRI.

The reason you and people like you do not like her is because she does not want a revolution. She does not beleive that a revolution fixes problems of human rights and bring democracy so she does not join forces with Monarchists or MEK.

But that does not mean that she is not fighting for peoples rights. An example for what she has doen is to force Nokia and other Big Telecom companies in to not sell surveilance systems to IRI.

Again in this artile she talks with simple logic so that even a mullah like Larijani and Khamenei with no university degree can understand how you can see that judiciary is not independent and also describe Mortazavis past. What you might know or bloggers write is many times rumors that could be faulty. But when Mrs Ebadi writes, there is always facts behind that she can prove. Also she writes her articles for much bigger audience than some unknown blogger and for many of them these are news.

Mehrban

Mehrban

Choghok if she has stopped Nokia from selling surveillence systems to IR, then good for her and that is a good thing. I know she was a judge before IR and she was a lawyer before her prize. She was awarded a Noble Prize for her work (I assume), do you know what that means?! It is probably one of the most important privileges on the surface of earth. With that award she needs to lead us, teach us and push us forward. This award can open every door to universities, think tanks, NGOs, political offices, people want to hear what she says and she has for the most part been silent.

You bring up Freedom of Speech, she had every opportunity to teach every Iranian and every Moslem by example that even if we are offended by something because we respect Freedom of Speech we should tolerate having been offended. instead she walked out of the ceremony for the Danish editor. How can I take her seriously on Freedom of Speech after that incident.

Take this article, it says on two different occasions that; judiciary "has lost" its independence. Implying that judiciary at some point had independence. One has to ask Ms. Ebadi when did Judiciary had independence from the executive branch in Iran? She speaks about Mortazavi, Zahra Kazemi and so on and so forth (and quite as a matter of factly) in 2013. Mortazavi was the the cheif prosecutor of the revolutionary court from from 2003 to 2009 (without any legal training) he was called the butcher of the Press. Where was Ms. Ebadi then? Now that the regime itself has imprisoned Mortazavi (subsequently released) Ms. Ebadi shows up and writes a lame article.

Choghok what you assume are my reasons for not approving of what she has done with her position are more about you than me. What I say here has nothing to do with Neocons, Mek, Monarchist, etc, it is just common sense.

There is still a lot more to say about how Ms. Ebadi has under performed as an Iranian with a Noble Peace Prize, but I will stop here (this time for sure :).

Thank you Choghok for responding to me.

choghok

choghok Your enemie's enemy is necessarily not a friend.

You have some interesting arguments, no doubt. About the Danish cartoonist, I would have stayed, you would have stayed and maybe most of people in Iranian.com would have stayed. Why did she leave? I do not know, maybe she is a Muslim and sees the things the cartoonist did as blasphemy? Or Maybe she felt if she stayed she would have endanger her relatives and friends life in Iran? Or maybe she thought it would not be in benefit of her other engagements. No matter what, there is a difference between leaving and denouncing the cartoonist his rights. I do not think Ebadi has said that the cartoonist should be tried or that the freedom of speech in Denmark should be limited.

Another subject you bring up about what she has done, what do you think she can be doing that she has not? Again you are talking about this article being nothing new as if the article is addressed only to Iranians and especially Iranians outside Iran.

This article is based on facts and is addressed to everybody interested to know about situation in IRI.

For example my colleagues who were interested to know what happens in Iran read her book, now many thing in her book is old news for me. But for them it is news.

And when you do not know about ther fight against selling surveillance systems to IRI, how do you see yourself fit to judge her performance?

I do not read news about her but I am sure the type of person she is she is not a person to take it easy and go for long vacations. She has been fighting for Nasrin Sotoudeh and many others from outside of Iran. And you have to know that Nobel proze do not giv you unlimited power. Dalai Lama is not any closer to get Tibet back for example.

Thank you M

Fred

Fred

You can awaken someone asleep, but you can't awaken someone pretending to be asleep.
With some intentional sleepyheads, drinking Zereshk juice recommendation is a must.

choghok

choghok Your enemie's enemy is necessarily not a friend.

Thanks Fred for your friendly advice. It seems to have done wonders with you.

SoosanKhanoom

akaDarya With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love. - Rumi

Dear Faraway, many thanks for posting this ...

: )

saboohi

saboohi

Someone said here that she was the cause that Nokia to end its business in Iran. This is a total BS.
She hijacked Stop The bomb campaign that made Nokia and other business to stop dealing with IRI. Then she tried to get credit for it which made STB to smile. Stop the bomb is a German based watchdog group that confront IRI on its every single move.