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What do "Reformists" want?

What is the Reformist platform?  What is it that they want to bring about through peaceful means?  Have you ever heard of their platform?   The only thing I know is that they wanted Mousavi instead of AhmadiNejaad.

 

- Have they ever talked about abolition of forced hejab?

- Have they ever talked about election candidates from across the Iranian population including the religious minorities.

- Have they talked about exact changes they want to bring about in the legal system to ensure women's equal rights?

- Have they talked about compulsory education and how to fund it throughout the country?

- Have they talked about labor Laws?  specifically child labor laws?

- Have they talked about creating jobs for the over 30% unemployed?

-Have they talked about their programs as to how to curb rampant drug addictions?   

- Have they talked about the freedom of speech and expression and association and freedom of press, outside of the Islamists norms?

 

add to this list as you wish.....

 

What have these people said besides we do not want war!   Well, hell!   I don't want war either!   So what?!  

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aban9

aban-9 The best criterion to judge people, dead or alive, is to read their works, not their CV.

In fact, so many changes have taken place within the past 3 decades. Namely: words and their connotations. In 1979, western publications started talking about the clergies. They began with ‘reactionaries’. As clergies moved upward the ladder, western media diplomatically tried to euphemize the bad connotation of the word, and altered the ‘backward-looking’ to ‘fundamentalist’. Now, a translator grabbed the word and coined ‘Osulgara’ in Farsi, unprecedented. It tasted good to the palate of the clergies. Later, a nameless breed of clergies emerged. They pushed their turban back to show a lock of the hair to claim modernity! They put their best sample on the stage who gained the nickname of ‘Smiling Mullah’, a behavior abhorred by the ‘fundamentalists’. Simultaneously, in western media another word appeared: ‘moderators’ in contract with ‘fundamentalists’, or the coined ‘Osulgara’. After a couple of weeks, in 1970’s, we find the word ‘moderators’ altered to ‘reformists’! In modern times, reformists are seen as centre-left, such as Canadian NDP or Social Democratic Party of Germany. In brief, as long as the sun revolves around the earth(!), no Mullah can alter the Shari’a laws! Period. However, western publications, such as online dictionaries and the title of this article, have registered the breed as ‘reformists’! In doubt? Give ‘islahtalab’ to google and watch the results. Next, go to Wikipedia or online dictionaries and see it for yourself! Satisfied?

choghok

choghok Your enemie's enemy is necessarily not a friend.

Again a dualistic argument. If you do not think like the author then you have to be evil. Seeing in black and white is our biggest problem.

JahanshahRashidian3

Jahanshah Rashidian

The Islamic Green Movement declared from beginning its intention to go into the "golden time of Imam": it explicitly means to go from bad to worse.

MRX2412

MRX2412

You know that old saying "there is sucker born every minute!" well, sadly that is very true in Iran.
An ignorant nation of fools who do not read, remember history or even bother learning from it's past or mistakes.
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daneshjoo

daneshjoo چه آورده رژیمت، شیخ شیاد ++ بغیراز جهل و جور و فقر و بیداد؟

Thank you for the post. It is important to emphasize on what we want.
A secular progress oriented government.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

You remember the whip from the indiana jones movie that harrison ford has? Well laugh all you want, but reformists don't want less than the whip in public and lots screaming by people that had alcohol or didn't wear the hejab just right, considering death by torture is reality for pasting on facebook, the whipping needs to have mandatory child viewing to remind everyone how barren and borring islam was in its hay day .

G.Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian

Absolutely. He shouldn't hear that, though. He may claim to be a prophet. Not even an Imam. That is beneath his dignity. Look at what the Yankees have done to the mentally twisted, emotionally wrecked and ideologically misguided charlatans like Soroushes.

Mehrban

Mehrban

It is amazing! It really is amazing! They say thirty years ago we were fooled by Khomeini and thirty years later they with the same sheepish blindness follow the Reformists. What gives?!

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

No one is following reformists. In 1979 Iranians lost their freedom, because they acted irresponsibly with it. The well known cause of tyranny, is the irresponsible use of freedom. Tyranny can't occur in an India or a Nigeria, because the people of those democracies never had freedom in the first place.

This is a system imposed and maintained from the outside, it is not a self sustaining tyranny, outside forces must behave in certain ways and perform their politics to sustain the tyrants in power. War, acting like they oppose it etc. The question is can any country have freedom and a democratic system if the people and the country are not developed???? I support the late Shah, Mohammed Reza Pahlavi with out reservation, he is my inspiration and in my opinion the true champion for Peace and Truth for Iranians. And not just because all the Iranians I know from the past say that the late shahs time were the best days of their families lives, but because I can appreciate his heart for justice.

Forget the reformists for one moment and look inwards to yourself, you say you support democracy, do you think you honestly could be understanding enough to realize why the late shah was not focussing on democracy back when he was in power or why all the institutions within Russia are moving towards democracy gradually despite have 10 times more educated people than Iran??????? Has it ever occurred to you to look at the problems of Iran through the eyes of a loving person who wishes to see Iran succeed and progress? Then why the talk of democracy today? No one is disputing that a democratic Iran is the ultimate goal for Iran, how can people even be taxed without true representation? One way or another, neither you nor I will see a democratic Iran, honestly speaking, maybe if you are a child being born today, yes, but otherwise how? Wishes do not make possibilities.

G.Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian

This criminal, Soroush, is a shameless charlatan. He claims epistemology to be one of his expertise. Several years ago, in an interview he stated, one can alternate/change epistemological terminology arbitrarily.

Mehrban

Mehrban

GR, well you can, all you need is a fatwa.

trawetsdor

trawetsdor

فیرسوف این جماعت عبدالکریم سروش که واسش استاد استاد میکنن برای دلبری از این طرفیها میگه ممکنه قرآن تصورات خود محمد بن عبدالله باشه. اینجوری براش لقب «لوتر اسلام» دست و پا کردند. انگار هراتفاقی که توی دنیای مسیحیت افتاد معادلش هم در جهان اسلام میفته تا این جماعت احساس شیکی بکنن و از خر شیطون بیان پایین. خیال میکنن تاریخ و فلسفه فیلمهای فخرالدینه که سناریو رو کپی کنن و جای هنرپیشه ترک فردین بزارن. آدم ابله ممکنه در حرف روبنا را عوض کنه ولی زیربنای فکریش همونیه که بوده. جناب سروش در کنفرانسی ادعا میکنه که برخی از موارد دعا شفا دهنده است وعلم را مؤاخذه میفرمایند که جوابی برای موارد شفا بدون دخالت علم پزشکی ندارد. آدمی که این همه حرف میزنه و چاپ میکنه لابد ادعا داره. ادعای ایشان در مورد ذکر شده اینه که اگر علم نتونست جوابی بده کردیت را باید داد به شفای الهی. زرنگی از نوع دولوکس.

علم وقتی شاهدی نداره دروغ سر هم نمیکنه. اگه یه دانشمند زر زیادی بزنه لاستعراض الأقران مچشو میگره. برای مخالف و متفاوت حکم ارتاد و فتوای قتل صادر نمیکنه. همین علم تحقیق کرد و نشان داد اگه بیمار «تصور کنه» براش دعا میکنن سریعتر شفا پیدا میکنه.

Mehrban

Mehrban

گر این لوتر اسلام برود اسلام را برای خودش و همفکرانش رفرم کند ما حرفی‌ نداریم. ولی‌ دست از سر سیاست ایران و جان مردمش برنمیدارد.