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 Playing footsie with factsFor one thing, all things inside Iran are NOT Persian
 May 11, 2004iranian.com
                 Dear Mr. Bahmani,  I had to put in my two cents because a) I'm procrastinating
                from doing my
                  work b) one of my students just came to me a while ago and
                said the Persian
                  Students Society here are having a debate about changing their
                  name to
                  Iranian.  I frankly think you already know the flaws in your argument
                (which is
                  different from the flaw in the argument to change from Iran
                to Persia). I
                  say this because your article ["Persian
                  vs. Iranian"] has a strange way of playing
                footsie with
                  the facts that you yourself set out.  You present the question as whether WE (the people who somehow
                associate
                themselves with a land currently called Iran) should call themselves
                Persian or Iranian and the land Persia or Iran. But the first
                two thirds
                of your article presents the history of how Persia, a name used
                soley but
                people outside of the territory came to be called Iran. Only
                near the end
                do you say "That fateful decision in 1935 that changed the
                name to the
                outside world."  So my question then is are you making the
                  historical
                  argument that the outside world should call Iran Persia again
                  or are you
                  making the argument that Iranians should call it Persia (for
                  the first
                  time in modern history) or are you making the argument that
                Iranians outside of Iran should separate themselves from the
                Iranian inside
                  Iran
                  and call Iran Persia a la pre-1935 non-Iranians, since Iran
                has, for as
                  far as I know (and granted, I'm most familiar with 18th century
                  sources
                  onwards) been called Iran-zamin by its inhabitants. (Even Persian
                  speaking
                  Indian such as Mirza Abu Talib whose family moved from Iran
                to Lahore and
                  who was a part of the Mugal court talked about Iranians and
                not Persians,
                  a word that oddly enough doesn't really translate into Persian/Farsi...)  If it's the first thing you're advocating, then you have to
                start a major
                  diplomatic campaign and get the name changed officially. It's
                  the official
                  name of Iran zamin. If you're advocating the second, then you're
                  calling
                  for a major historical rupture that has no precedence since
                Iran because
                  an identifiable territory and recognized itself (with varying
                  degrees) as
                  a bounded territory with a quasi-central authority. But if
                it's the last
                  one you're advocating, then that's very interesting and I'm
                quite intrigued: Why shouldn't the Iranian diaspora name and
                  thus relate
                    to the
                land of Iran differently from those inside it? Oddly enough,
                      even if this
                      was not your intention, I find it very interesting in the
                  sense that it
                      will reflect in the word and usage itself the fact that
                when Iranians
                      outside of Iran talk about it, they're talking about something
                      completely
                      different than those outside of Iran. It will be a major
                  coup against the
                      nostalgists and those who think that from Los Angeles,
                they have an
                unbroken tie to the land they came from.  Putting aside the fact that it's unclear what exactly you're
                advocating
                (since your stated question and your main argument as I said
                don't work
                together), the last part of your article seems only concerned
                with the
                adjective, i.e. you seem to be at a loss as to what adjective
                to use when
                refering to a wide variety of disparate things. You touch upon
                and yet
                don't deal with a major problem of calling all things inside
                Iran, Persian:
                All things inside Iran are NOT Persian, no matter how you define
                the term.
                Baluchis ARE from Iran, they are not Persian. zereshk polo though
                is
                probably Persian (though since you seem to have a problem with
                the
                Arabicness of Farsi, you may want to research the root of ALL
                things we
                think are ours in the interest of "purity." Who knows,
                maybe qormeh sabzi
                is Yemeni...) Having bored you and myself to tears with this long
                  email, I have to say,
                  I don't care one way or another (I do care about logical gaps
                  in
                  arguments). People should have the right to call themselves
                whatever they
                  want. And if somehow one's pride in one's country or heritage
                  somehow
                  depends on a word or on whether some nincompoop says Iranian
                  or
                  Eyeranian,
                  then that person's identity is in deep poop itself. Frankly,
                  I smile at
                  the fascinating tension in the Iranian diaspora identity: On
                  the one hand
                  they're quick to exhalt their 2000-plus heritage (whatever
                that means) on
                  the other hand they're constantly worried about how the rest
                  of the world
                  sees them. At the end of the day, actions speak louder than
                words and
                  history means little when your present is unappetizing. .................... Say
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