December 3, 2003
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* The right you don't deserve
Unfortunately not all thoes who came to the US, came for freedom.
Many like you and your parents came only for a luxury life, and the mind
that America is evil and must be destroyed [Facing
the music]. Please keep your shitty
mind set in check when doing campaigns for "peace". If you
have the right to criticize the governmnet, first consider what you have
or doing as a contribution to this country and then start complaining.
I tell you, you have done nothing for this country. You only now how
to criticise the government that have give you the right to live in this
country. This is the right that you don't deserve to have. Your parents
like other Iranians only new how to complain to shah and destroyed him
only to find another kind of dictatorship to sit in his place. Why?
Bbecause we Iranians only know how to compalin and accuse other countries
of our problems. We didn't do anything to make our country better. Did
people get freedom of speach after revolution? no. It got only worse
to the degree that we can't even complain the way we did during shah's
time?! So please first start a campain to make life better for
people and do something that will bring goodness to people, and then
complain to government for what it is doing.
Does "peace" mean that we should let Some crazy Government
throw atomic bomb or chemical bomb on us? Its good to sit and be peaceful.
but is it wise to wait for other governments to destroy us? we live in
a mental hospital where people are fighting the whole time. being peaceloving
dosn't mean that nobody will attack you. war is not good but its better
to defend yourself when one is trying to kill you. sometimes you have
to attack first. (See reply below)
* Keep leaders in check
In reply to above,
your response is unexpectedly and unnecessarily harsh.
while i respect that your perspective differs from mine, telling me to
little mindset in check" is hardly the way to get me to see yours.
if you're trying to be critical, you've succeeded on only a very superficial
level. if you're trying to be persuasive, you've failed to do anything
but turn me off.
that said, i'd like to respond to your
other accusations, if you haven't closed your mind entirely to what
i have to say. i feel as if you hadn't
read my essay at all [Facing
the music]. my parents came to america because they DO believe
in the american system: "in search of a
better life, they came to the U.S. hoping to live the American Dream. my
parents didn't buy the anti-American hype they were being fed at home.
They had faith in American democracy."
they weren't revolutionaries
in iran. they had a better standard of living there than they have
ever had here. but they still prefer it here, in a country that at least
lip service to civil liberties, than in iran, where the mention of
liberty is a cruel joke.
as for what i have done for my country, you have nothing to go on other
than a 500-word essay. it's presumptuous and spiteful of you to assume
that i do nothing but sit around and complain.
i agree with you that
one of the biggest faults of our culture is our tendency to simply
complain, and never act. i will say that another fault is our unwillingness
to cooperate, simply because we refuse to hear another point of view,
and quickly get defensive when someone's perspective is different from
we are all would-be leaders, never followers. we are never content
to let another person guide us because we assume that we can do it
better, but then we refuse to actually do anything at all.
finally, regarding my personal protests: the colossal mistake that
was vietnam would never have ended as quickly as it did had the younger
exhibited not their opposition to it. if i truly believed for even
a second that our action toward iraq was in self-defense, even pre-emptively,
i wouldn't have opposed it so strongly. but in reality, this administration
was working in its own self-interest, as politicians always do.
true democracy, it is the responsibility of the public to keep its
leaders in check, not their own minds. without the freedom to express
we are little better than the fascists that control iran.
This is a brilliant article!! [Facing
Steve C. Mellano
* Intentions count for little
I have to say that for a man that deplores cheap shots, ad hominems
and vulgarity, your unpleasant comments [Cheap
shots] on my one article ["Iruni-baazi"],
which mentioned some Qajars in passing, have been mostly personal and
You are not, whatever you may think, an arbiter or taste and vulgarity.
I can assure you I have received a better education and upbringing than
most members of your clan, and met enough Qajars and mini-Qajars in London
and Tehran to make this a confident assertion.
You will see from the response to your articles that your laudatory
passages on the Qajars have failed to convince this small, but relatively
eloquent, sample of the Iranian public. The article I wrote asked - and
I look forward to your scholarly and well-researched response to the
question - what Farmanfarma had done for Iran that a very ordinary great-grandson
of his should constantly ridicule and criticise Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi.
Please also include why we as a nation are indebted to the Firuz and
Farmanfarmayan families, to Nosrat ol-Dowleh, that communist Maryam Firuz,
or various family members that have recently started cashing in on their
names, writing memoirs and novels. It would be good too if you could,
if at all possible, rehabiliate that Zil ul-Sultan [The
game at Ghamishlou], the very symbol of despotic abuse and sinister
Ahmad Shah may have meant well [Persia's
honor], but intentions, as you know, count for little
in politics unless they are turned into palpable reality. Nobody
will thank Khatami, Bazargan or Sanjabi for their paltry efforts,
whatever their intentions.
I look forward not so much to a princely as a scholarly response. (See
* Debate among reasonable
Dear Mr. Vassigh, (Reply to above)
Had you written this letter or opinion piece instead
of what you did in fact write in your earlier piece ["Iruni-baazi"],
I would at most have asked you to be willing
to reconsider aspects of your position in light of different possible views
on the people you mentioned. Instead you chose to make a vulgar and unfair
remark about them and all Qajars. In our culture, unlike this very vulgar
American culture, one does not speak in such terms about others unless
one intends to insult and get a laugh at others' expense who cannot defend
Given that you have taken the trouble to write to me, I imagine you
a man of honor. I also imagine you a reasonable man. If the shoe were
on the other foot,
would you not at least protest the vulgarities and object to the character
assassination? I know that you would, given your annoyance at this unnamed
Farmanfarmaian who set you off because of his alleged critical remarks of
Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi.
The substantive part of your remarks can be debated among reasonable
men. It has been debated. It is still being debated. The outcomes of
open and fair
debates are always good. The results always preliminary until new elements
are introduced and examined in the light of reason. In that arena I would
never object in the way I did, as I do not do so now. Except for your
remarks about "that
communist" and the “buffoonery” of Zell-eSoltan, the rest
of your statements here can be responded to in a spirit of genuine inquiry
Is Mohammad Reza Shah above criticism? Is there any point in criticizing
his actions, his rule, his administration of the country post 1953? Is
to have differing opinions on him and his time? Of course. Is it possible
to also find aspects worthy of praise, of sympathy? Of course. This would
way reasonable individuals debate. With facts, with measured criticism, with
Is Pinochet, who just yesterday declared himself a savior angel of
Chile, indeed such an angel or was he a dictator who murdered thousands of
Chileans? Was Franco a savior of his nation? These things can and are being
I read your piece as an attempt to settle a score and land cheap shots.
Your remarks about the Qajars were not “passing remarks.” I
could not let them stand without comment. Not for my own sake. Believe
me, the abuse people have heaped on me personally for "daring" to
say anything about the Qajars that would not follow the accepted canon
of exegesis has been
unbelievable. Yet as far as responding to insults against my person, I have
never felt it necessary to reply. Abuse against those who cannot speak for
themselves anymore, however, is another matter. It is the duty of such a
one as I. Blood dictates it. Were you in my shoes, believe me, you would
same if you wanted to be able to live with yourself. Honor is not a matter
to be trifled with. It is all we have left when all is said and done.
Whatever your characterization of my answer here to you may be, I hope
you read it in the spirit it was presented. In due course, I personally
others who are presently writing and publishing and will do so in the future
more and more, are answering the substantive aspects of your question. I
would like to suggest to you a recent book by Anthony Wynn on the Abdol
Farman-Farma's role in Iran and his relation with Sir Percy Sykes, and a
forthcoming book by Dr. Nashat on women in the Qajar era.
I would also suggest Sir Dennis
Wright's The English Amongst the Persians among many many books I could recommend.
Surely none of these individuals owe anything to the Qajars, and, if anything,
they have been critical in the past and still are. That is precisely why
I suggest them as appropriate reading should you be interested in doing
I hope you would be willing to give my points as serious a consideration
as I have yours. I would like to add that I would never use ad hominems
were uncalled for. Had you not said those things, I would have never personally
criticized you no matter what your viewpoints were. I would have only presented
in the night?
I am kind of a fan of yout web site and I also think you have
one of the most complete connections of classics and also contemporary
music, and I wanted to congradulate you and also thank you for providing
such a beautiful collection for us iranians all ver the world.
have a question , I think one of our singers has a song playing the "Strangers
in the night" music but with farsi lyrics do you happen to know
by any chance who is the singer and what's the name of the song?
* Dametoon garmmmmmmmmm
On the music section:
Afarinnnnnnnnn Va dametoon garmmmmmmmmm Va ey Vallaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
* Mollas running really scared
If your readers want the PERFECT example of "the pot calling the
kettle 'black'", they should try to catch a web rebroadcast of Rahbar's
Eid Fitr sermon delivered in Tehran yesterday. Talk about a group
of mollas "running really scared" and trying to buy themselves
time and space!
The speech was so outrageously dishonest and hypocritical that even
the man delivering the message was visibly ashamed of his own lies. To
have heard the message given from the pulpit, one would have thought
that President Bush had just illegally shut down over 100 news publications
and arrested numerous pro-democracy activists on the flimsiest of charges
via kangaroo courts?!?
The outlandish sermon was so dishonestly
intense in its embrace of Iran's "free" and "democratic" electoral
process as opposed to the West's "wicked" agenda for democracy
and human rights in the region, and so hypocritically self-righteous
in its "mazloomeeat" as opposed to the "tyrannical dictatorship" of
Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and others, that for a second an unsuspecting listener
might have thought they were in Bern, Switzerland and not Tehran, Iran!
* Primate assumptions
Hello, Sunlord [Sorry
I just took a quick peek at your ridiculous article about your Persian
teacher and I am convinced that you are nothing more than an arrogant
drug addict. You closed the article asking the "fellas" out
there if her behavior towards your obviously malicious actions was appropriate,
so I will appease your confusion with an analysis that should serve as a
healthy and imperative introspection for an unrivaled twit, like yourself.
Assuming that your article captures every minor detail that occurred
throughout your experience, I'll first say that you completely misinterpreted
her behavior like she was one of the cheap Puerto Rican hookers that
your probably accustomed to chasing, thus affirming her altered demeanor
after you presented her with yet another batch of flowers picked from
your boyfriend's garden. Still confused?
Allow me to reiterate. In the beginning, you were so confident that
she was drawn to you and after the childish inquiring, with which you
failed to investigate your
own judgment and interpretation of women individually, you miraculously
turned into a saint who enjoys doing special deeds for beautiful women
around the globe.
Of course, they must be beautiful women, because who would take
the pains to give a toothless woman of an obese physique the
incentive to warm your heart with a smile? Your benevolence is
clearly bullshit. So what else can we assume that your motives
were in this situation, besides the desire to tear off every article
of clothing on her body and proceed to engage in explosive intercourse?
This did not occur to you because, like most males, you are pompous
and self-involved. I can attest to this fact after reading a few
jumbled paragraphs on your retarded article.
Also, did you expect her to melt with happiness after reading the stupid
card you left with the bouquet? I honestly hope that was a joke
because, if not, my notion has been confirmed once more.
Each of your assumptions are of primate capacity. Your article
serves as nothing more than proof of why males are misrepresented.
One may also ask himself, "Why are so many girls turning into lesbians
lately?" Answer: "..BECAUSE OF GUYS LIKE YOU!!!"
Here is a bit of advice, moron. Try chasing after women of your own stature and not being mislead by your own
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