“We need history for life and action, not as a convenient way to avoid life and action, or to excuse a selfish life and cowardly or base deeds.”
-- Nietzsche, The Use and Abuse of History.
A couple of mornings ago, when I read the news and saw a clip from Aljazeera about the fall of the wall in Rafah, I asked myself, what other choice does one have but to explode the wall in order to be able to buy bread and fuel for survival? What else can one do when the “international community” chooses to stay silent about one of the most hideous crimes in history? What else can one do when the hypocritical harbingers of democracy turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to the violences of the inhumane State of Israel?
What else can one do when the messengers of “change” who raise millions of dollars for their presidential campaign (No, not just McCain, but the much loved Obama) write letters to the UN Security Council, urging it not to pass any resolution to lift the wall without understanding “Israel’s right to respond”? I guess a democratic election does not count unless it is approved by “us” who spend millions on our election campaigns and penalize others with hunger and death for not choosing a “democratic” government!
But it is not just the US politicians who are complicit with the State of Israel’s violence against the Palestinians. Sadly, those of us who read and contribute to Iranian.com and are often so opinionated on every matter and feel so compelled to write about everything that happens in the world, have been complicit with this violence by being silent about the recent Palestinian situation.
To escape this deadly silence, I decided to write about the events around me which have to do with Palestine, stating and not stating Palestine anywhere, and being in a “Palestine state of mind.” Some times the fall of walls by those under siege is what it takes to break out of the writers’ block suffered by those of us sitting in our comfortable homes far from the reality of war, agonizing silently.
A couple of weeks ago, I saw ReOrient, a festival of short plays about the Middle East in San Francisco. I was disappointed not only by the low turn out of Iranians in this event, but to see that there is barely any report or critique of it on Iranian.com. I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling that this lack may have to do with the fact that the plays are not about Iran.
Am I wrong to think that most of the Iranian immigrants only support event that have to do with the commemoration of a “homeland” left behind? That most Iranian-Americans do not give a damn about coalition building with other immigrant communities, especially with Arabs? That while our claims of “universal human rights” abound, we choose to stay silent when it comes to Palestine, as if Palestine is not “our” issue?
ReOrient is not just about Iran. In fact, two of the five plays are about Palestine, one being a monologue performed as a standup comedy. There is a line which highly resonates and is repeated in this monologue, written by Yussef El Guindi, directed by Arlene Hood, and brilliantly performed by the very talented Sara Razavi. She (the Palestinian) says, “Among the drama of nations, if nations were types of dramas, Palestine would be a monologue… A lone voice… you hear it in the distance; you hear its wails; you wish it well… you wish it would stop… you wish it would go away … when you know it won’t shut up or go away, you begin to tune it out… you tune out this monologue.”
Unfortunately, I think many of us have tuned Palestine out and frankly the Arab-hating sentiments that have filled our national imaginations do not let us see the pain and hear the voices of Palestinians who are being killed violently by the Israeli tanks or die softly behind the Israeli walls. We refuse to notice as we go on with our comfortable lives, pretending that Palestine does not exist.
Another ReOrient play, based on Simin Behbahani’s poem, “I Sell Souls” is not necessarily about Palestine, but certainly speaks to the silence surrounding it. Before writing a few words about this play, allow me to issue a preemptive disclaimer for those who may leave loving comments: I swear to you, I am not an Arab, an Arab-parast or any derivative thereof. Nor am I an IRI spy or a ReOrient agent! If anything, I am not sure if Golden Thread would approve of my appropriation of their plays here, as I may be jeopardizing their “centralist” position and pissing off the few rich Iranians who may some day support Iranian theater for the sake of its prestige. So, don’t blame ReOrient or the Golden Thread for my pro-Palestinian position. Believe me, if it were up to me, I would call it “DeOrient” to do away with the “Orient” all together and I would question the geopolitical discourses that -- as Edward Said argues -- have imagined the Orient to construct a civilized European self. But that is another discussion.
Despite my placement of the drill on the poppy seed (matteh roo khashkhaash gozaashtan) about the name of this festival, I strongly believe that ReOrient is a must-see, especially when there aren’t many plays about the Middle East that challenge stereotypical images of this vast geographical designation.
It is true that the funding for artistic, journalistic, academic, and non-academic knowledge production about the “Middle East” and Islam has seen a surge since September 11. But it is also true that many of these productions repeat the stereotypical representations of the “Middle East” and are complicit with the discourses that reproduce it as un-free, violent, and in need of liberation.
ReOrient challenges these stereotypes and provides a much more nuanced image of the “Middle East” than many plays which seem to find their way to the stage at this historical moment (hence, the need to support it as I doubt that it would be fundable by mainstream funding sources).
While one or two plays in the festival are unnecessarily long, the ones that are written, directed, and performed well certainly make it worth seeing. (In case you are wondering: other plays in the ReOrient deal with the 2006 bombing of Lebanon, the post 9/11 surveillance in the United States, and the Arab/Jew dichotomy in Israel.)
Back to “I Sell Souls”… Torange Yeghiazarian’s abstract play which is based on Simin Behbahani’s poem, “I Sell Souls” is not only aesthetically beautiful (the music, poetry, performance and images are at times breath-taking), but it leaves the audience thinking and wondering about the relationship between one’s body, one’s soul, and the luxuries of life. What is the price that one pays to indulge oneself in worldly pleasures while shutting one’s eyes and lips in order to refuse to see and speak of injustices and violences in this world? How does one console oneself when one sells one’s soul?
A question that comes to mind after seeing this unique play is the gendering of the characters (body, soul, and soul dealer) and its relationship to selling out. Why is the feminine body (Lynne Soffer) less resistant to the temptation to indulge in pleasures offered by a man in a suite who signifies material pleasures and luxury (Garth Petal) than the masculine soul (Julian Lopez-Morillas)?
What would it mean if the roles were reversed? Is there a dichotomy between the body and the soul and if so what artistic choices result in the gendering of the characters? What is the connection between the soul and soil in the background image, and at what moment does the dance of the light and water shift to the earthly walk on the soil? This play surely leaves the audience with plenty to think about.
In a scene, as the body rests upon the soul and the soul-buyer rests with satisfaction on the body which seemingly shelters her soul, we hear: Silence… Silence… Silence… This silence feels eerily familiar when it comes to Palestine these days. One wonders if the silence towards the siege in Palestine has something to do with the selling of souls.
Or perhaps one can wonder, as the Monologist tells us, if the stateless Palestine has become a state of mind that everyone has experienced at some point: when one talks and no one listens. That is when one could say, “I feel like I am in a Palestine state of mind.” But this state of mind could also connote something more positive: when under siege, one breaks all barriers and continues to survive against all odds. And hopefully, that is when one could say, “I feel like I am Palestine.”
To end on an uplifting note, here is a video from DAM, a Palestinian rap group.
Person | About | Day |
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نسرین ستوده: زندانی روز | Dec 04 | |
Saeed Malekpour: Prisoner of the day | Lawyer says death sentence suspended | Dec 03 |
Majid Tavakoli: Prisoner of the day | Iterview with mother | Dec 02 |
احسان نراقی: جامعه شناس و نویسنده ۱۳۰۵-۱۳۹۱ | Dec 02 | |
Nasrin Sotoudeh: Prisoner of the day | 46 days on hunger strike | Dec 01 |
Nasrin Sotoudeh: Graffiti | In Barcelona | Nov 30 |
گوهر عشقی: مادر ستار بهشتی | Nov 30 | |
Abdollah Momeni: Prisoner of the day | Activist denied leave and family visits for 1.5 years | Nov 30 |
محمد کلالی: یکی از حمله کنندگان به سفارت ایران در برلین | Nov 29 | |
Habibollah Golparipour: Prisoner of the day | Kurdish Activist on Death Row | Nov 28 |
Zion: how deceptive can you possibly get?
by Q on Wed Jan 30, 2008 05:56 PM PSTQ, i said very clearly that Finkelstein is the one who has debunked the Holocaust myth and INDUSTRY.
Zion, what the hell is the word "myth" doing there? What is the meaning of the word "and" ? Only a willfull liar, and a backtracking fool can claim that the above sentence does NOT suggest Finkelstein "debunked the Holocaust myth." You argue that here, but then right after you say the Holocaust Industry is really denial anyway... And you're even calling his parents "psychologically injured." How morally reprehensible.
The most common theme in Holocaust denial is the acceptance of its historical reality while claiming that it is being deliberately exaggerated and blown up for Israel`s, Jewish or Zionist interests.
I am seriously speechless. This is straight out of Orwell's 1984. But even 2 minutes of thinking by any human being can expose your newspeak. What you are saying is that I could believe the historical reality that the Holocaust happened and it killed 6 Million Jews, but I could still be a Holocaust denier!
Silly me! I thought Holocaust denial meant denying the Holocaust! But no, it apparently has morphed into meaning criticizing zionism, criticizing Israel or just not believing what you believe. What an increadible act of fascism! An Orwellian newspeak that has erased the very concept of criticism. It's not possible to "misuse" the Holocaust for material or political gain? You are doing that right now for a stupid web argument! That is probably one of the worst insults to any Holocaust victim.
The only one who sounds childish is you. Everyone I have named are very respected scholars and the very top of their fields. I only seek people who know what they are talking about, so that idiots like you don't get to make up reality as they go along. Of course, since you have no real responses, you resort to name calling and personal attacks on them.
The fact that you are so blinded by ideology that you can't accept real evidence, is your problem and your mental short coming.
Mr. Concerned
by Anonymous4now on Wed Jan 30, 2008 04:08 PM PSTYou are looking through a small hole in your box and fail to see or hear the reality. First of all I said peaceful Israeli Arabs are living in comfort and not Palestinians who have sworn to destroy Israel. Before all the suicide bombings started, the Palestinians were earning a living working in Israel. The threat of suicide bombings became so much that Israel shut its borders to the Palestinians and has a labor force imported from China to replace the Palestinians. I did go further than my hotel and drove up on the highway onto which Palestinians, from the top of the hills surrounding it, took sniper shots, randomly, at motorists and killed many. I also visited the intersection at which three separate bus explosions killed many men, women and children. I did walk in the market, with an eerie feeling, where two suicide bombers in two different incidents, killed many shoppers. I did witness a jittery people who become fully alarmed at the site of a bag left behind without an owner in site, or the site of a Middle Eastern looking single male, like me, walking into a restaurant. When you have no notion of how emotionally depleting this constant threat can be, then it is easy to demonize a whole people, as you do. It is not a question of discrimination; it is a question of survival and minimizing the danger of suicide bombings. They have more ethnic diversity and tolerance for it, than any other country in the world. Escape from your box, for your own salvation.
Authority, always looking for an authority
by Zion on Wed Jan 30, 2008 03:53 PM PSTQ, i said very clearly that Finkelstein is the one who has debunked the Holocaust myth and INDUSTRY. He is one of the corner stones of all this `` historical revisionism`` which is the PC word for Holocaust denial. He didn`t deny the Holocaust and I never said he did. So stop the bullshit. Yet he is the one who put in the necessary bridge for the loonies to cross over. What do you think Holocaust industry could mean? The most common theme in Holocaust denial is the acceptance of its historical reality while claiming that it is being deliberately exaggerated and blown up for Israel`s, Jewish or Zionist interests. How is that different from Holocaust industry? Finkelstein is a loud mouth disgrace to himself and to the academic world, and needless to say the Holocaust survivors including his own (psychologically injured) parents. He has been basically fired for the ideological nonsense he speaks and his opportunist politically biased attacks on every independent and respected scholar on this field. and no, Chomsky does not qualify.
Chomsky is a self loving narcissistic caricature, an obsessive liar and master in sophistry. He is an fringe loud mouth, with no credibility in any serious circle, including in his own specialty linguistics. He is a giant and the greatest blah blah bah only for freaks like you.
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So you keep looking for ``Authority`` all the time. It is probably a sort of shiite religious residue in your characters. What you should be looking for is credible SOURCES, respected and objective SCHOLARS, who present you with facts and their personal analysis, so that each of YOU, yourself, could make up your minds about. Not another SOURCE OF EMULATION to IMITATE, the way you evidently relate to the likes of Chomsky.
You are boring me Q, I have already answered all the claims of your childish logic in various threads, you just keep repeating your few mottos. BORING.
Have you nothing better to do with the precious few years of life we are each given as a gift?
To: Anonymous4now
by Mehdi on Wed Jan 30, 2008 04:26 PM PSTThanks. It is amazing how difficult it is to get some objective reality about the who issue. So much emotion is going around. I know, I was raised in a very strict Muslim family. My father was somewhat open minded but my mother was so traditional and mentally afraid of everything. I remember when I was a child she used to celebrate the day that Omar had passed away. This was due to the animosity between Shiites and Sunnis. The animosity was so intense that they considered Sunnis not Muslim at all and an enemy of God! I don't know how it is in Israel but the propaganda in Iran was and I imagine it still is very hot against Israel. There is a certain undying hatred about non-Muslims, especially the Jewish people. I never knew any Jewish people back in Iran but I knew only one Bahai and could see their difficult situation due to extreme prejeduce. As someone raised in a Muslim environment I know that it is within the teachings of Islam that followers of other religions living in Islamic land must pay extra taxes, and I think there are some other limitations put on them. There seems to be similar regulations in most religions. Apparently God could not decide which people to bless - haha. So much hatred and fighting over nothing. Like you said, if both sides could have agreed on some sort of peace years ago, by now the whole place would be a heaven. But it seems that we prefer to keep it the way it is! Sad.
Jewish State3
by Anonymous. (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 02:17 PM PSTWhen one looks at the number of children per Palestinian household, having double digit number of children, both in Israel and more so in the Palestinian territories, is not a rarity- the sheer demographic problem Israel faces becomes evident. The Palestinian preachers along with some regional states actively encourage and facilitate this trend and are fully cognizant of its eventual outcome.
Zion: that's what I expected
by Q on Wed Jan 30, 2008 02:04 PM PSTFinkelstein is the son of not one, but two holocaust survivors. And now you claim (lie) that he debunked the "holocaust myth" ? Have you no shame? The "Holocaust industry" is about people who use holocaust for political gain and dishonor its memory, not about disproving Holocaust. Have you read any of this?
Chomsky himself was a Zionist, a mental giant and the most important intellectual alive today. Ostrovsky was a Mossad officer that exposed the ingraned culture of racism and superiority complex within the Israeli armed forces. Jimmy Carter created the only peace treaty that has ever worked in the region. Of course you would be hostile to that.
But my question is unaswered. Who is an objective authority on apartheid and colonialism that could settle this question? Zionist websites with an agenda to "defend Israel" do not qualify. Bernard Lewis is an academic, but his work is the poster child of Orientalist thinking and have been countered heavily in the academia (including Israeli professors) in the past 2 decades.
Jewish State2
by Mehdi on Wed Jan 30, 2008 01:58 PM PSTThanks Anonymous. It seems to me that Israel has a problem now. On the one hand it is trying to be a democracy with religious freedom and on the other hand it wants to maintain the country as a primarily jewish populated state.
Reminds me of when I went to Sweden a few years ago and saw a huge building dedicated to housing refugees from other countries - mainly Sudan I think. All of a sudden I saw garbage on the ground and it stood up like a beacon! I realized that I had not seen garbage on the ground anywhere in that city (Gothenburg). Nowadays the refugees have become a problem due to crimes, drug abuse and government system abuse (like welfare, etc). This is a country that tried to help refugees but now kind of regrets it. We see similar problem in the US near Mexico border. Apparently there are currently over 11 million illegal immigrants in the US - probably mainly from mexico. There is only so much walls and restriction can do. Eventually what will happen? I wonder how Israel will deal with it.
Re: anonymous4now, What Planet Did You Visit?
by Concerned (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 01:58 PM PSTYou Probably didn't get far enough from your hotel room and restaurants!
Please read the following article published in an Israeli newspaper called Haaretz.
Discrimination against the Palestinians living in Israel is a well known subject.
UN: Israel must stop discrimination against Arabs, Palestinians
By Reuters
The UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination said Israel's security measures to ward off suicide bombings and other attacks must be re-calibrated to avoid discrimination against Arab Israelis or Palestinians living in Israeli-occupied lands such as the West Bank.
The committee specified that Israel should ease roadblocks and other restrictions on Palestinians and put a stop to settler violence and hate speech.
Its 18 independent experts, who examined the records of 13 countries at a four-week meeting in Geneva, also said Israel should cease building a barrier in and around the West Bank and ensure its various checkpoints and road closures do not reinforce segregation.
In its conclusions, the committee also voiced concern at an unequal distribution of water resources, a disproportionate targeting of Palestinians in house demolitions and the "denial of the right of many Palestinians" to return to their land.
Differing applications of criminal law between Jews and Arabs had caused "harsher punishments for Palestinians for the same offence", said the committee, whose recommendations are not legally binding.
A high number of complaints by Arab Israelis against police officers are not properly investigated and many Arabs suffer discriminatory work practices and high unemployment, it said.
Excavations beneath and around the Al-Aqsa mosque, Islam's holiest site in Jerusalem, should also be undertaken in a way that will "in no way endanger the mosque and impede access to it", it added.
Israel argues that the UN committee's remit, to ensure compliance with a 1965 international treaty against racial discrimination which the Jewish state has ratified, does not apply to the Palestinian territories it has occupied since 1967. The committee rejects that position.
Israel's ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva, Itzhak Levanon, told the committee last month it was crucial to understand the pressing security threats faced by his country.
Mehdi and Anonymous:
by Anonymous4now (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 01:43 PM PSTMy observations, as someone whose work has taken him into Israel, at least a half dozen times, are that you are both right. Israel is the most advanced nation in the middle East, it is the singular democracy in that region and, unlike what most people would like to accept, it is the most secular country in the middle East.
In order for some of the readers not to jump to their own conclusion, I have to make it clear that I don’t work for the CIA or the Mussad or the “Zionist lobby”. My company, in the US, founded by an Israeli, makes high tech equipment and has its headquarters in Israel.
The Israelis despise and abhor their own religious minority more than the Palestinian terrorists, as many of my colleagues and taxi drivers I have spoken with, have conveyed to me.
There is a sizable peaceful Arab Israeli minority (20%) that is doing as well as the Iranian minority in LA. They are typically restaurant owners with large modern homes and at least a couple of Mercedes Benzes in front of their homes. The Israelis confess to having a love affair with Arab/Mediterranean food.
If you go to the Mount of Olive and hold your arms open to make a 120 degree angle in front of you, then every religion in the world has built a shrine in that “holy land”. You see not only the Bahaii mosque, but the Church of Scotland and the Mormon Church both have facilities there. Israelis are extremely tolerant of minority religions.
If the Palestinians wanted real peace, Hamas would get along with Fatah and Hizbollah and they could have peace with Israel in an instant. Ever since Gaza has been handed over, Hamas has been sending rockets into Israel. Hezbollah is poised in a threatening position in Lebanon, and will not get along with either faction. Fatah thinks it is making peace but is threatened by the other factions who want nothing but the destruction of Israel. Each is waiting to exercise its complete dominance over the other, not realizing that, in peace, the industrial might of Israel will benefit not only them but the entire Middle East. In the span of the past 30 years, the IRI has been pouring fuel over this fire, and has tried to increase its influence in the conflict, at the expense of the Palestinians. As long as Israel feels threatened by the Palestinian issue and is engaged in fighting it, the IRI is in the winning seat. Yet, more and more Iranians have fallen for the IRI propaganda machine that pretends to be sympathizing with the plight of the Palestinians, forgetting the plight of their own people and the billions of dollars that have been plundered by this self serving regime, for its own adventures, at the expense of making Iran destitute with 40% of Iranians living below poverty standards. The silence about their plight, is deafening.
To: Concerned
by Anonymous Observer (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 01:18 PM PSTConcerned:
Are you by any chance a "seyyed"? It just seems that an Arab gene in you has kicked into high gear! Just curious.
Concerned's soul mate being jilted
by Anonymous234 (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 01:17 PM PSTConcerned, Dim wit, anonymouseMe is like you an Anti-Semite Islamist and is backing you up with his hate mongering.
Re: AnonymousMe, Read Carefully, UN has declared Zionism as a
by Concerned (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 01:11 PM PSTAnonymousMe, Read Carefully, UN has declared Zionism as a Racist, immoral ideology. Get it!
The UN resolution critizes Israel and its ideology.
UN says so . . . . hahahahaha
by AnonymousMe (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 01:01 PM PSTUN says so . . . . hahahahaha
Israel has the most (over 300) UN resolutions against it, and keeps ignoring them. BUT when there is ONE or TWO resolution for it, they keep harping on that every time.
What a Joke. APIAC and NEO-Cons, and ZEO-nisms have shown their true faces. You cannot hide them regardless how much horse shit you write here.
Get life and tell these HORSE SHITS to those who do not follow the news unless it is Fox News crap.
hahahahahahha . . . . UN says so. What a horse shit.
Zion, You Can't Call Chomsky and Finklesteinn Anit Semite Becaus
by Concerned (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:36 PM PSTZion, You Can't Call Chomsky and Finklesteinn Anit Semite Because they are jewish themselves.
Truth hurts doesn't?
Stop misrepresenting these true original thinkers.
Zion, Zionism Is Racism, So Are You. UN Says So
by Concerned (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:31 PM PSTZion, Zionism Is Racism, So Are You. UN Says So
Q, Q, Q...You have no clue
by Zion on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:30 PM PSTListen Q, are you for real? I mean what you write can be a good stand up comedy routine!
These are your sources?!
Finkelstein, NORMAN FINKELSTEIN?!
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein
The one who has also ``debunked`` the holocaust myth and industry. Yes that is really credible. If he has debunked my point, it makes my stance so much MORE credible.
Chomsky, Edward Said?! The chauvenistic jerk who is probably the one most responsible for this ``palestinian identity`` fraud?
CARTER?
This gets better and better. These do not constitute `academic` consensus, my dear, the constitute the `Wacademic` consensus for freaks like you.
You want credible sources, I have already linked to a good website with references in the other thread.
You can also read Bernard Lewis (nightmare if that edward Said entity!)
You want history of Israel, the real one, take a look at this:
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0688123627/...
You can also take a look at this:
//www.amazon.com/O-Jerusalem-Larry-Collins/dp...
My ethnic background are not relevant to anything I say. It is a sign of absolute intellectual and moral bankruptcy on your parts to need to cling to such things to confront what I SAY.
You pathetic degenerate islamist buffoons. You can keep whining about, since you have nothing worthwhile to say in defense of your indefensible and evil positions.
Jewish State2
by Anonymous. (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:15 PM PSTIsrael is a Democracy as you rightly said so and therefore cannot and will not inhibit the most basic right which is the right to believe or not in a deity or whatever. The main problem that confronts Israel is its struggle to keep the Jewish majority to safe guard the right of return, safe heaven for Jews, option while adhering to the Democratic principals. That is why the Jewish Agency is actively seeking Jews to settle in Israel to offset the rate of growth of its non Jewish, mainly Muslim citizens. And that is one of the reasons behind the refusal to allow the influx of Palestinians to settle in the Israeli proper which would make them the majority. Should that happen, theoretically speaking, the Moslems can change the laws and defeat the safe haven nature of Israel for the Jews who have vowed never again after the Holocaust and the deafening silence of the world.
Jewish State
by Mehdi on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:00 PM PSTSo then why is Israel allowing other religions flourish in Israel? Doesn't a Jewis state go against religious freedom? If the land is to be only for Jewish people, then how can there be religious freedom? It seems to me Israel is giving a lot of religious freedom right now. What am I missing?
The Jewish State
by Anonymous. (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:41 AM PSTJewish state simply put means all the Jews in the world have a state that will take them in should they desire it no questions asked except verification of identity. This in light of repeated pogroms against the Jews throughout the history under different pretexts and no safe heavens for them to turn to along with their desire to go back to their ancestral land is the main reason for the existence of the Jewish State.
What Is "Jewish State?"
by Mehdi on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:30 AM PSTCan somebody tell me what the phrase "Jewish State" means? I mean in a bit of details. From what I know about Israel, its system of government is Western style democracy with very high level of religious freedom. I hear bahais find that environment so democratic that they have based their international headquarters in Israel. I hear Muslims enjoy more freedom in Israel than they have in any Arab country or Iran. So how exactly is it a Jewish state? Is there such a thing as a Jewish government? Is it being implemented in Israel? I can't find anything on Google or anywhere about this. I would appreciate some explanation.
To: SETIZ
by anti-hypocrites (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:27 AM PSTTo: SETIZ
The LA times story is old and you have to pay a fee to download it. The title of the article is "Iran Builds a Presence in Lebanon" By Raed Rafei and Borzou Daragahi
If you are looking for an older news story, it may no longer be here. Free archives of stories are maintained for one week on latimes.com. To search for a story published in the past week, use the search box at the top of the home page.
If the story is more than one week old, you should be able to find it in the LATimes archive. Searching is free, but there is a fee for downloading full text of found articles.
The Link for PDF file works on my computer. Try again.
https://www.ehs.unu.edu/file.php?id=355
Our Arab Brothers' Gift
by Anonymous Observer (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:04 AM PSTJust couldn't resist. Here's a wonderful gift from our Arab brothers and sisters for whom our hearts bleed. Check out this link:
//iranian.com/main/node/17216
The Islamic REpublic
by vza (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:03 AM PSTThe Islamic REpublic dictatorship and other Arab dictatorships use Palestinian-Israeli issue as a escapegoat to divert attention from their own countries despicable state of affairs. I think if anyone really cares about Palestinians, they should stop exploiting their cause and feeding off of Palestinians corpse to promote their own agenda. Palestinians are intelligent enough to see who is on their side and Iran is definitely NOT helping the Palestinian cause but aggravating it by pitting Palestinians against Palestinians. This is immoral and has to stop.
Islamist for hire
by Anonymous. (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:54 AM PSTAssuming one is gullible enough to believe any Islamist, shame on Israeli students who defend their country for $ 1000.00. That would mean they are as much of a harlot as the Islamist republic defenders and apologists who are bankrolled by IRI.
anti-hypocrites
by Setiz (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:45 AM PSTFinally something worth "iranian" attention! Thank you. But some of your links are not available: LATIMES link as well as links inside your article. Will you please repost your links to be accessible.
Israel pays $1,000 to its students in the U.S.
by AnonymousMe (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:39 AM PSTSeveral Israeli students have told me that they receive $1,000 for a sole purpose of portraying a good image of Israel in the U.S. Here I am not going to talk about AIPAC and its role in controlling the U.S. media.
I have nothing against the people of Israel, but when I see olive trees are taken out to make room for more buildings which are paid by my tax dollars, then I get angry and upset.
Israel even discriminates against different origin's of Jews, do NOT tell me that it is a democratic country. Ask those who have lived there including many Iranian Jews and few Iranian non-Jews. Several Iranian Jews have returned and are telling the horrific experiences there, even paying $10,000 to each Iranian Jew to immigrate there is not enough to make life better for them.
Wasn't Arafat who promised
by Anonymous3 (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:37 AM PSTWasn't Arafat who promised Khuzestan as the new Palestinian homeland during the Iraq-Iran war? This is just a rhetorical question. Shame on you Islamsists of all stripes
On December 26, 2003 at 5:27
by anti-hypocrites (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:15 AM PSTOn December 26, 2003 at 5:27 a.m., a 6.6-Richter earthquake destroyed the historic city of Bam. The death toll was more than 30,000 and more than 75,000 people became homeless with 90% physical destruction of the city.
After 4 years only a few houses are built and the government is bogged down with allocating land according to complex Islamic inheritance law instead of rebuilding schools, roads, hospitals, and homes. Most of the landowners died in the earthquake, and in the Islamic Sharia, women don't inhert land if their husbands die. (see the report here from King's College London)
Baztab published a set of pictures (one, two) which show the dismal state of affairs and outright seditious nature of the Islamists (NOT IRANIAN) who are in charge. Thousands of families with young kids are still homeless, and the more the Ayatollahs squander the oil revenues in their doomed "reunication of Islamic Ummah project", the more the Iranian society sinks into inequality and social injustice, the more fiery the pseudo revolutionary rhetoric of its theocratic ruling elite, and the more dogmatic and intolerant their version of Islam.
The tragedy of it all is that while the country is immensely wealthy, a small caste of cultish Islamist/jihadist Ayatollahs and their cronies (IRGC) spend millions of dollars in reconstruction efforts in Lebanon to buy "protection and Ummah allegiance " from foreign mercenaries (read Hizballah):
Along the roadways of southern Lebanon, thousands of banners festoon street lights and utility poles. They feature a distinctive symbol, a red inscription from the center of Iran's flag, protectively swathing Lebanon's iconic green cedar.
The emblem belongs to the Iranian reconstruction organization. Its presence delivers a message that is not lost on critics of Iran's role here, nor supporters who have watched cratered roads filled in, damaged school walls resurrected and life return to some semblance of normalcy over the last year...Whenever the Lebanese government, nonprofit organizations or other donor nations have faltered, Iran and its ally Hezbollah, which dominates most of the municipal governments of the south, have quickly swooped in, residents and officials say.
For example, when Qatar slowed reconstruction efforts several months ago because of corruption worries, Iran quickly upped its contribution. "The Qataris were saying a lot of the money was being wasted," said Ibrahim Said, a business owner in Bint Jbeil, a border town that was crushed by Israeli airstrikes during the closing days of the war. "Four months ago, there was a sudden halt in reconstruction, and the Iranians said, 'If you don't want to do it, we'll step in.'
" The head of Iran's reconstruction effort says his country has set no spending limit for Lebanon. "Contrary to other countries, we did not decide on a fixed budget for the reconstruction of Lebanon," Hussam Khoshnevis said. "The Islamic Republic decided to pay as much as is needed on the ground." Much of Iran's financial support is invisible. It is channeled through Hezbollah's charity organizations. Immediately following the war, the Shiite militant group paid as much as $12,000 for each destroyed home or apartment.
A large portion of this money was believed to have originated in Iran. In heavily damaged Hrat Hreik, an enclave in a southern suburb of Beirut called Dahiyeh, contractors have removed rubble, repaved roads, rebuilt sidewalks and restored electricity and running water. "We've done this in cooperation with the United Nations Development Program and other donor groups, especially Iran represented through the municipality of Tehran," said Samir Dakkash, head of the local government in Hrat Hreik. "Money was directly paid to contractors, so we don't know how much Iranians spent." Work to rebuild apartment buildings damaged by Israeli airstrikes has also started. Often, even when pro-American donor countries and the Siniora government provide the money, Hezbollah shares the credit.
Its reconstruction arm recently persuaded 70% of those who got grants from the government to funnel their cash into a project that will restore or rebuild 198 buildings under the Hezbollah banner. Elaborate plans include green spaces, parking lots and trees imported from Africa. According to its own accounting, Iran has spent $155 million in Lebanon, about $25 million more than the U.S. government has sent through the U.S. Agency for International Development for reconstruction. Iran says it has rebuilt at least 149 schools, 48 mosques and churches, 10 health clinics, 64 electricity projects and 19 bridges. It continues work on nearly 100 other building and infrastructure projects. It has completed work on 504 roadways, and has 76 underway.
https://www.ehs.unu.edu/file.php?id=355 (PDF, Report on Bam after 4 years)
//www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-f...
//pic.kamangir.net/thumbnails.php?album=53 (Pictures of Bam's Earthquake victims after 4 years)
RE: Concerned
by Anonymous Observer (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:00 AM PSTIs the senseless bombardment of residential areas of Iranian cities by the coalition of Arab nations, including the Palestinians, which was executed by the Iraqis, also in the "hearts and minds of humanity"? Because I recall being told by a cousin of mine that he had helped clean body parts of six - ten year old neighborhood kids, who were playing in the alley in Shiraz, after an aerial attack by Iraqi planes on that neighborhood. Does that remain in anyone's heart and mind? Or does our hearts only bleed for our Arab masters?
Of the million-strong,
by anti-Islamic Imperialism (not verified) on Wed Jan 30, 2008 09:56 AM PSTOf the million-strong, 2,500-year old Jewish communities of the Middle East, only 8,000 remain in 10 Arab countries, said former Justice Minister and Attorney General of Canada Dr. Irwin Cotler in his briefing to the bipartisan Congressional Human Rights Caucus in Washington co-headed by Frank R. Wolf (R.-VA) and Tom Lantos (D-CA), Thursday, July 19. Yet against the 101 UN resolutions passed on the Palestinian refugees since 1947, not one addressed the forcible expulsion of Jews from Arab countries by state-orchestrated oppression, persecutions and pogroms.
This raises serious questions about the appropriateness of the United Nations having a role in the Middle East Quartet meeting in Lisbon Thursday, said Cotler, counsel to former prisoners of conscience Andrei Sakharov and Nelson Mandela. he whole question of refugees and refugee claims is at the forefront of the Peace Process, and integral to the Roadmap. Rights for Jewish refugees from Arab countries, 600,000 of whom were absorbed in Israel, have to be part of any peace process with a claim to integrity.
The Caucus, after hearing four speakers on behalf of the Justice for Jews from Arab Countries organization, decided to promote two Middle East refugee resolutions already before Congress. They would instruct the President to ensure that in all international forums dealing withMiddle East refugees, US representatives must ensure that reference to Palestinian refugees is matched with explicit reference to Jewish, Christian and other refugees expelled from Arab lands.
Stanley Urman, Executive Director of JJAC said, "When the issue of 'refugees' is raised within the context of the Middle East, people invariably refer to 'Palestinian refugees', virtually never to the plight and flight of Jews, Christians and other minority populations from Arab countries.
As a matter of law and equity, history records two refugee populations – not one - created as a result of the longstanding dispute in the Middle East.
Regina Bublil-Waldman, whose family escaped Libya in 1967, said that forgetting the nearly one-million Jews who were indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa means that we have a distorted view of the Middle East Refugee Problem today.
Prof. Henry Green noted that the Jewish legacy in Arab lands is eight times older than American Jewry, going back 2,800 years and including periods of Jewish sovereign statehood in the Babylonian and Roman eras. The campaign to secure rights and redress for Jews forced to flee Arab countries is not a campaign against Palestinian refugees but a quest for truth and justice.
It is also a call for other minorities to be recognized and addressed. Today, Christians are exiting the Middle East in greater numbers than ever before.