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22-Jul-2011
The unprecedented campaign in Washington to remove the Mojahedin Khalq (MEK) from the U.S. list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations represents a critical threat to Iran's indigenous democratic movement. Unlike Iran's democratic opposition, which advances through nonviolence the principles of democracy and human rights, the MEK is an undemocratic organization that pursues its agenda through violence. Delisting the MEK and freeing the group to inject violence into Iran's democratic opposition movement would help derail yet again Iran's century-long struggle for democracy.
Secretary Clinton will soon make her decision on whether to remove the MEK from the terrorist list; the consequences of her decision could indeed determine whether Iran's democratic aspirations are once again plunged into the abyss of a vicious cycle of violence.
The MEK enjoys almost no popular support among Iranians, yet it seeks to manipulate Iran's struggle for democracy to serve their own quixotic end -- to install MEK leader Maryam Rajavi as Iran's next dictator. MEK hopes to achieve this goal by manipulating the democratic struggle into a contest of violence, the arena where terrorist groups and undemocratic regimes prefer to compete. In this regard, there is little difference between the MEK and the regime. However, the heavily armed regime in Tehran has the upper hand when it comes to violence, including against the MEK's 3,000-man army.
Instead, the only damage the MEK would inflict would be on Iran's peaceful democracy movement. The rejection of violence has been critical to the democracy movement because it shifts the arena of competition with the Iranian government to a theatre where the opposition enjoys a significant comparative advantage. Rejecting violence provides the opposition the moral upper hand against Iran's hardliners. Hence, by confronting the regime where it is weak and where the opposition is strong, the nonviolent opposition also has the tactical upper hand. And, at the strategic level, the opposition has the upper hand because, in rejecting violence, Iranians ensure that their efforts will lead to democracy and respect for human rights, not just the shuffling of dictators.
In the past, violence has poisoned Iran's struggle for democracy. In 1965, the MEK was the first group to take up arms against the Shah, who in turn responded with further violence that unleashed a vicious cycle of brutal reprisals. As the Shah's repression grew increasingly violent, radical voices rose to the forefront of the opposition, and the voices of reason were marginalized. By the time revolution came in 1979, it was violent and undemocratic. One dictator was replaced by another.
In the aftermath of the June 12 elections, we saw yet again how the MEK seeks to manipulate the struggle for democracy to serve its own violent, undemocratic agenda. Newsweek journalist Maziar Bahari, just before he was imprisoned by the regime in Iran's notorious Evin prison for 118 days in 2009, reported firsthand how the MEK tried to "hijack" the peaceful Green Movement protests by launching attacks on Basijis. Bahari writes in his recent book that "MEK sympathizers had acted as agents provocateurs among the protestors, inciting violence."
He quotes a peaceful demonstrator on June 13, 2009, who says, "Some small terrorist groups and criminal gangs are taking advantage of the situation." She goes on to say, "Thirty years after the revolution and 20 years after the war, the majority of Iranians despise violence and terror. My worry is that if the government doesn't allow reforms to take place, we will fall into a terrorism abyss like the years after the revolution."
Injecting violence into Iran's opposition would turn the democratic struggle into a violent competition on the regime's terms. That is why the regime would love for the indigenous opposition to become violent and why delisting the MEK would be a gift to hardliners who have sought to smear the democratic opposition as being aligned with the MEK. Green Movement leaders have disavowed the MEK and wisely avoided taking the regime's bait, but now some in the U.S. want to use the MEK to inject violence into Iran's opposition movement.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Sadly, the people of Iran have learned all too well history's lesson that violence has only poisoned their democratic aspirations. Now, the U.S. must heed these lessons and resist political pressure to delist the MEK and perpetuating the vicious cycle of violence that has doomed Iran's century-long struggle for democracy.
Video: "Why Do We Need to Stand Up to the Mojahedin Khalq?"
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Jamal Abdi is Policy Director at the National Iranian American Council, the largest grassroots organization representing the Iranian-American community in the US.
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shushtari
by Soosan Khanoom on Fri Jul 22, 2011 07:03 PM PDTIRI supporters do not need to freak out .. they have their own brainwashed army to fight with these assholes just like they did in the past. it is not any thing new for IRI ... IRI can handle it ... do not get too excited ....
no one freaked out here but those who are left out from NIAC board of directary and are writting tons of blogs and comments a day bashing NIAC even when the topic has nothing to do with NIAC.....
But sadly, In the midst of all these one thing for sure will be sacrificed and that is Iranian's democratic movements ..... Now IRI has a good alibi to shut everyone up .....
I don't like the MEK one bit
by shushtari on Fri Jul 22, 2011 06:19 PM PDTbut I love the fact that this whole delisting thing is brining out all the IRR cyber worms out of their holes. they are all freaking out for some reason......don't know why, but it's great to see them squirm and beg the us not to delist the MEK
anything that rattle the nerves of the filthy mullahs is a plus
Dear AI
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 22, 2011 06:02 PM PDTThere is a difference between lunatic; Marxist and criminal. The first two I am willing to accept. The latter must be tried and brought to justice. No nation lets criminals go. Sometimes they have "truth and reconciliation". Mostly because the criminals are too powerful and numerous. So they give them amnesty and deal with it. MKO is neither powerful nor numerous.
However at this time Iran lacks a proper justice system. Therefore it is not possible to try them. Furthermore the real criminals: Rajavi are beyond Iranian reach. That leaves the rank and file. They are in Camp Ashraf in Iraq or in the West. Let us talk about each. First the ones in Iraq. The Iraqi government does not want them. There are several reasonable options:
Now to the rank and file in the West. They make a lot of noise and refuse to renounce MEK. As members of MEK they are criminals. They are however beyond the reach of Iran. So they will do as they wish. As long as they do not blow up anything in their host nations they are safe. However some nations like USA list them as terrorists. So in my opinion those in USA should be arrested for that charge. Then tried in a US court and go through the legal system. Just like any other terrorist is. I am amazed they go to congress right by FBI and are not arrested. What kind of policy allows known terrorists to go right openly into congress. This is the power of AIPAC. I should join them then I guess I will be immune to any criminal activity :-)
The leadership is beyond hope. They are definitely criminals. Of course thanks to their money they get their voice heard. So don't worry about that! No issue with them getting their message aka lies out. I myself refuse to listen to them. In time I hope Iran gets them back just as Israel got the Olympics terrorists. Tries them and brings them to justice.
One last thing regarding MK and Shazdeh. They are not being honest. Their goal is to change the subject from MEK to NIAC. This is a trick to divert attention form the problem. I do not respond to them because I want to stick to the topic: MEK.
If MEK becomes delisted it won't have a 3,000 man army
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Jul 22, 2011 05:41 PM PDTTry 200,000 armed combatants, mostly erxtremly poor disenfranchised iranians directed their way by traitors within the islamic system, who want islam first for Iran as well as securing their own position in the future, the cost $4 Billion (not including weapons) is peanuts for the USA. Regime would eventually fall and Iran would most likely become like North Korea in 10 years with famine.
But hey, on the bright side, when USA foreign policy says it wants to pursue, freedom, democracy and justice and they put all their energy in betraying the shah, who was the bestchoice for Iran, didn't you betray him too?
Since the USA says MEK are the best thing since sliced bread, who are you to disagree, weren't you one of the people that didn't actively support the shah when he and therefore all iranians were being betrayed in the name of democracy and where have you been since then.
Not supporting the young shah that's likely where.
Dear VPK
by Artificial Intelligence on Fri Jul 22, 2011 04:45 PM PDTI don't care that they are Marxist Islamist. There are all kinds of lunatics amongst us. We can not shut them up. This is how they became the lunatics they are today. The IRI turned off the political process, killed their members left and right and the MEK traitors turned to Saddam in return. You will neutralize them by bringing them into the process not by shutting them out of the process. I made it clear below that they must get rid of the traitors such as Rajavis to be acceptable.I don't care for their political platform. Its as shity as the Velayat. No one will buy into them.
Marxism is dead and most people don't follow it anymore. Islamist are as well done in Iran for good. MEK, as you say, has no popular support in Iran. We all agree. Yes they are not secular. What are you going to do with all the nonsecular remnants of the IRI? Are you going to shut them out of the political process as well?
Again, we are repeating things here. Masoud & Shazdeh are absolutly right about NIAC. NIAC looks the other way when it comes to IRI terror but they have so much to say about these MEK losers.
Since you are such a nationalist and secularist, please realize that the strength of your secular state will be based upon how well you treat other political views- Including the ugly views of the MEK and Islamists.
Finally, I like to thank everyone for being civil even if we do not like each other/or disagree on ideas. Two years ago there would be a bunch of deleted posts. At least this is not happening. Thanks you!
I agree Dear VPK
by Soosan Khanoom on Fri Jul 22, 2011 04:09 PM PDTIt seems that it's pretty much the plan ....
SK
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 22, 2011 04:05 PM PDTMEK is financed by AIPAC and that is why Guliani supports them. Much of US congress is in pocket of that vile anti-American gang. And I do not mean MEK I mean AIPAC. That is why FBI is not arresting MEK.
Their plan is to send MEK to create violence. Once that happens they will ask for NATO help. US will start bombing. IRI will arrest any opposition as "MEK". Meanwhile MEK will do a bombing here and there. With hope to hijack the democracy movement. The results will be very unpredictable. USA is no good at its wars. As proved by their failure to beat a rag tag bunch of Taliban. So many things may happen: mostly bad. One thing for sure is that lots of innocents will die. Israel will also suffer because it will lose a potential friend. Iranian people are not anti-Israel. But by supporting MEK Israel will make Iranians mad at it. They did another stupid thing when they made Hamas. They wanted to give PLO competition. So they made Hamas. Now PLO is their buddy and Hamas a pain.
The degree of stupidity of NeoCon gang is beyond imagination. They make mistakes the compound it with other ones. As if three wars: Iraq; Afghanistan and Libya are not enough. Now they want Iran; Syria and very possibly Pakistan.
Fred ..
by Soosan Khanoom on Fri Jul 22, 2011 04:00 PM PDTAIPAC = MEK
Responses
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 22, 2011 03:55 PM PDTNo point responding to Shazdeh and Masoud. I do not even bother with them.
Thanks Jamal for this informative blog
by Soosan Khanoom on Fri Jul 22, 2011 03:51 PM PDT" Newsweek journalist Maziar Bahari, just before he was imprisoned by the regime in Iran's notorious Evin prison for 118 days in 2009, reported firsthand how the MEK tried to "hijack" the peaceful Green Movement protests by launching attacks on Basijis. "
Not mention that they would happily shoot the demonstrators as well ... MEK is the most troublesome group ever having bunch of brainwashed followers acting as mute and will-less zombies. Now just wait that those Zombies get released from camp Asraf and find their ways to the streets of Iran.. Do you think the delisting campain and the camp ashraf campaign is just coincidence? They are up to nothing good but causing disturbance and creating disorder in Iranians democratic movements . MEK has no money to buy any support but it is an organization that can be bought easily by especial interest groups such as AIPAC in order to get the dirty job done.
More Documents, and Questions
by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Fri Jul 22, 2011 03:46 PM PDTI. Questions to NIAC and NIAC Internet Response Team:
Could someone please explain to me:
1. Why Trita Parsi and NIAC, do not use the accurate description of TERRORIST REGIME for the VF regime ruling Iran????????? (while using the term "terrorist" for PMOI; WHY the double standard)
2. Why negotiating, recognizing, and making financial deals with number 1 terrorist entity in the world is promoted by Trita Parsi and NIAC but similar policies to the PMOI is attacked???????????
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Evidence:
//www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2009/140889.htm
Iran remained the most active state sponsor of terrorism. Iran’s financial, material, and logistic support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia had a direct impact on international efforts to promote peace, threatened economic stability in the Gulf and undermined the growth of democracy.
Iran remained the principal supporter of groups that are implacably opposed to the Middle East Peace Process. The Qods Force, the external operations branch of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), is the regime’s primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorists abroad. Iran provided weapons, training, and funding to HAMAS and other Palestinian terrorist groups, including Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC). Iran has provided hundreds of millions of dollars in support to Lebanese Hizballah and has trained thousands of Hizballah fighters at camps in Iran. Since the end of the 2006 Israeli-Hizballah conflict, Iran has assisted Hizballah in rearming, in violation of UN Security Council Resolution 1701.
Iran’s Qods Force provided training to the Taliban in Afghanistan on small unit tactics, small arms, explosives, and indirect fire weapons. Since at least 2006, Iran has arranged arms shipments to select Taliban members, including small arms and associated ammunition, rocket propelled grenades, mortar rounds, 107mm rockets, and plastic explosives.
Despite its pledge to support the stabilization of Iraq, Iranian authorities continued to provide lethal support, including weapons, training, funding, and guidance, to Iraqi Shia militant groups that targeted U.S. and Iraqi forces. The Qods Force continued to supply Iraqi militants with Iranian-produced advanced rockets, sniper rifles, automatic weapons, and mortars that have killed Iraqi and Coalition Forces, as well as civilians. Iran was responsible for the increased lethality of some attacks on U.S. forces by providing militants with the capability to assemble explosively formed penetrators that were designed to defeat armored vehicles. The Qods Force, in concert with Lebanese Hizballah, provided training outside of Iraq and advisors inside Iraq for Shia militants in the construction and use of sophisticated improvised explosive device technology and other advanced weaponry.
Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior al-Qa’ida (AQ) members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody. Iran has repeatedly resisted numerous calls to transfer custody of its AQ detainees to their countries of origin or third countries for trial; it is reportedly holding Usama bin Ladin’s family members under house arrest.
Senior IRGC, IRGC Qods Force, and Iranian government officials were indicted by the Government of Argentina for their alleged roles in the 1994 terrorist bombing of the Argentine-Jewish Mutual Association (AMIA); according to the Argentine State Prosecutor’s report, the attack was initially proposed by the Qods Force. In 2007, INTERPOL issued a “red notice” for six individuals wanted in connection to the bombing. One of the individuals, Ahmad Vahidi, was named as Iran’s Defense Minister in August 2009.
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Number 2 Terrorist entity in the world: al Qaeda
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Number 3 terrorist entity in the world: The Hezbollah in Lebanon:
Hezbollah responsible for murdering Iranian opposition figures:
//iranian.com/Kazemzadeh/2006/July/Hezbollah/index.html
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e-mail between Trita Parsi and officials of the terrorist regime exchanging niceties. Here is the e-mail between TP and the Ali Asghar Soltanieh the terrorist regime high level OFFICIAL.
P. 7.
//www.iranian-americans.com/docs/Negotiation.pdf
Trita Parsi to the TERRORIST regime OFFICIAL:
Dear Amb. Soltanieh,
It was a great pleasure seeing you in Holland for the Pugwash meeting. I very much enjoyed our conversation and I look forward to remaining in touch.
Trita Parsi
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Another NIAC official has been pushing for members of US Congress to meet high level official of the TERRORIST regime (e.g., Mashaee).
Pp. 11, 13.
//www.iranian-americans.com/docs/Negotiation.pdf
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The following is a quote from a letter written by Trita Parsi to Roy Coffee.
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Trita Parsi's letter:
POSITIONING
Although the mission of the proposed lobby should be to improve relations between the US and Iran and open up opportunities for trade, the initial targets should be less controversial issues such as visas and racial profiling/discrimination. Since the lobby will be spared from creating a grassroots network of its own, the initial focus on non-controversial issues will only serve to establish credibility within the community, and not massive support (which would necessitate the complete avoidance of issues such as US-Iran relations).
Furthermore, it would bea wise strategy to mainly target Iranian-American businessmen for financial support. This group has both a higher propensity to support the lobby’s mission and it is also in a better position to underwrite the expenses of the lobby. Nonetheless, despite its predominantly business oriented constituency, it isessential that the lobby creates a "human face" for its aims and goals. AIPAC successfully painted the opponents of the Iran Libya Sanctions Act as "greedy businessmen who had no scruples when it came to doing business with terroristregimes." The oil companies failed to characterize their campaign with "human concern for the well-being of innocent Iranians stuck with a dictatorial regime" or "support for the poor mid-Western family father who lost his job due the sanctions." The human element is essential both when it comes to attracting support among Iranian-Americans and when it comes to winning the debate and the votes on the Hill. "
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Documents
by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Fri Jul 22, 2011 03:39 PM PDT//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/documents-relationship-between-trita-parsi-and-vf-regime-official
پس نوشت: برو اون ریش حزب اللهی تو بتراش
Shazde Asdola MirzaFri Jul 22, 2011 03:01 PM PDT
//www.niacouncil.org/site/PageServer?pagename=About_abdi
NIAC must be investigated for the support of IRI terror!
by Shazde Asdola Mirza on Fri Jul 22, 2011 02:54 PM PDTIt is not a question of supporting the Mojahedin ... but DeListing them. Any group that leaves the path of terror, should be DeListed.
Same goes for Rafsanjani, Karoubi and Mousavi ... if they abandon the path of terror, they should be DeListed too, by EU and USA.
By the way ... have you ever seen NIAC publishing article after article and blog after blog, against the IRI terror and suppression?
I don't recall these cast of NIAC characters so frantically publishing emails, posts and articles against the IRI oppression even at the peak of 2009 killings and torturings.
Shame on all the supporters of the IRI terror, hiding behind this and that and the other organization and "charity".
MM jan: we know ... we know: some of their guests and neighbors have said things about IRI ... so brave of NIAC!
Mojahedeen are NOT secular
by David ET on Fri Jul 22, 2011 03:19 PM PDTMOJAHEDEEN MILITANT ISLMAIC MARXIST IDEOLOGY: //it-it.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=217792074920355
LOGO SHOWS GUN, A VERSE FROM KORAN AND STAR OF COMMUNISM UNIFORMS
IR AND MEK ARE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN.
CAMP ASHRAF IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF IRAN UNDER THE RULE OF MEK.
NORTH KOREA IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A COUNTRY THAT IRAN WOULD LOOK LIKE UNDER RAJAVI AND ALIKE.
QUIZ:
//iranian.com/main/blog/david-et/which-one-not-terrorist
MEK is on terror list?!!!
by Disenchanted on Fri Jul 22, 2011 01:34 PM PDTWas I out to lunch?!
Are you telling me Guliani & Tom Ridge are accepting $$$ from an officially designated terror group?! A terror group running in halls of congress?! Good morning FBI!
Anyone knows what's with every MEK male wearing a mustache?! Is that a sign of masculinity? I Betcha there is an order from TOP that every member has to wear a mustache. I appreciate if anyone could thin of any other cult in today's world that its members are like this controlled and brain washed?
Be afraid. Be very very afraid!
اوپوزیسیون ایران: آتش زیر خاکستر
MMFri Jul 22, 2011 01:27 PM PDT
I agree with HG that the opposition is fragmented, each one singing their own tunes and building their own little castles. May be this is a wake up call for all these folks to come together and coordinate under a common denominator of "democracy for Iran".
Dear AI: Aligning with MEK will hurt the opposition to IRI
by Bavafa on Fri Jul 22, 2011 01:05 PM PDTAnd that is not a total BS, on the contrary past experience and reality on the ground only supports such notions.
Much has been discussed on this subject and little to doubt its result:
US may inflict some minor wound to IRI thru the MEK proxy group but the damage and real wound will be inflicted on Iranian people
If nothing else, such alignment and involvement of MEK will give IRI just one more excuse to rape, imprison and most likely execute all its opposition in the name of MEK, much like they did in the 80s.
Since MEK has little to no support in Iran and with the bitter memory of their treasonous act, few if any will raise to question or defend such heavy hand by IRI. Some ordinary but ignorant citizen may in fact cheer and support such summary execution.
The net result will be weaker opposition if not completely destroyed, an alignment with a group that Iranians hate and therefore even greater lack of trust to US intention and reducing US moral authority (what ever is left of it) by aligning itself with a violent/terrorist group.
'Vahdat' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
hamsade! Gol Gofti!
by Artificial Intelligence on Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:43 PM PDTSorry I even opened my mouth! What was I thinking:)))))
Great points vildemose!
Dear Bavafa
by Artificial Intelligence on Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:32 PM PDTI am not suggesting that MEK is vibrant or Democratic at all. Far from it. They are not for sure. MEK were traitors during Iran/Iraq and they are still wacky to this day. I am just saying that we need to forgive them as the MEK and bring them into the opposition if possible.If the black forgave the whites in South Africa, we can forgive the MEK (provided that they get rid of their lunatic leaders responsible for the treasonous decisions re Iraq and Saddam ....).
I am only pointing to the fact that NIAC is trying to sell this to congress by claiming that support of MEK will hurt the opposition. There is no opposition. The people of Iran hate the IRI but no opposition can survive by peaceful means. Congress knows it. They want to use the MEK to create trouble for the IRI just like the IRI created trouble for the US in Iraq, Afghanistan........Congress will use the MEK. This is typical politics. Why can the IRI have proxies all over the place but US cant? Because NIAC says that it will hurt the opposition in Iran? That is total BS.
Vildemose jan: very true about the big IF...
by Bavafa on Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:20 PM PDTI agree, not easily done nor there is any guarantee
But I suppose credibility and past/present practices of each group speaks volume about their game vs. sincerity
example:
Do we take IRI word's as face value when it talks about democracy and freedom in Bahrain or ME in general? I don't
'Vahdat' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
The Big IF
by vildemose on Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:02 PM PDTIf that position is based on justice for all and sincere rather then as a political game & horse trading.
Bavafa jan, I applaud you for your honesty. However, there is a big If....How do you quantify/determine sincerity vs political game???
Vildemose jan: The answer is yes, absolutely
by Bavafa on Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:54 AM PDTIf that position is based on justice for all and sincere rather then as a political game & horse trading.
My allegiance is only to my principals and my conscience and not any one group. As such I like to support/oppose ideas and actions rather then who is committing them.
I support many many policies of US/West yet disagree and oppose many other policies.
'Vahdat' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
The conundrum: Which one is
by vildemose on Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:49 AM PDTThe conundrum: Which one is worse, The MEK or the Reformers? The MEK or Ahamdinejad et al?
...Theatre of the absurd...lol
ey baba artificial
by hamsade ghadimi on Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:35 AM PDTey baba artificial intelligence jan, where you been. iran has a great opposition with all kinds of cool people in it. they agree on everything except m.k.o. we don't need no stinkin' m.k.o. to join the harmonious and 'vibrant' opposition club/group. iranians have mousavi (scratch him for now), karoubi (well, him too), journalists and political activists (the ones not being tortured in jail), students (who haven't been caught yet), etc. etc. for the future, the opposition club is vigorously recruiting ahmadi and mashaii who have a proven track record for getting things done in iran. and let's not remember all the peace movements that have overcome tyranny: gandhi, m.l.k., mandela (not at first), etc.
and look below, mm jan provided some info on cool things niac is doing, cut and paste right from niac's 'fact book.' i like the two-pronged attack by iri, cut m.k.o. down within iraq (the 1400 fossils still living in camp ashraf) and cut them down politically by their shish-tigheh lobbyists in the west.
for now give it a rest a.i. after we take care of the m.k.o., we'll redouble our effort on averting the potential attack on iran by israel, remove sanctions on the fat cats in iran so that some of their excess wealth trickles down to the iranian citizens (if trickle down economy works for the u.s., why not for iran?), and then finally we'll normalize business relations with iran so that the ordinary iranians living in iran will have their bread in oil (nabaati kind). one issue at a time buddy. for now, we can all agree on the obvious issue: m.k.o. is a traitor and terrorist organization out of touch with reality. right?
Dear bavafa: I couldn't
by vildemose on Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:27 AM PDTDear bavafa: I couldn't care less one way or another about NIAC..I have no Opposition to NIAC...This is a free country and they can do whatever they want....
But NIAC has to accept at least some responsbility for the consequences of their action, sometimes, somewhere?? I hope they do that..otherwise, none of their legitimate efforts would be taken seriously..
Would you support MEK if they were focusing on some cause that you view as valid; for example, the criminal land grabbing of Palestinians territories by the extremist settlers?
Dear AI: Many of us still not counting all opposition dead
by Bavafa on Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:27 AM PDTAnd when the true oppositions are raped and murdered, they are still not dead among many of us. They are our heroes.
Here is a partial list of many of those who we cherish their cause and their fight.
//iranian.com/main/blog/jahanshah-javid/list-names-prisoners-persia
Also, if you are suggesting that MEK is a "vibrant, organized (with real democratic leadership)" then vast majority of Iranians argue against that and recognize this group only as treasonous cult.
'Vahdat' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
Opposition? What Opposition?
by Artificial Intelligence on Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:07 AM PDTI just watched the video that came with this article. It keeps on talking about the opposition. What opposition? They have all been silenced, raped and murdered by the regime. There is no vibrant, organized (with real democratic leadership) Iranian opposition.
The IRI has managed to silence all peaceful opposition to it with an iron fist.
I wonder what the "opposition' will do in the next election. What will they accomplish?
Right now ahmadinejad and his crew have become the "opposition".
Are we supposed to support Ahmadi to because he is the "opposition"?
Thanks MM for the links
by Anahid Hojjati on Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:39 AM PDTThanks for taking the time and providing the links.
Vildemose jan: I don't assume that, only re-emphasize it
by Bavafa on Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:41 AM PDTI agree with you completely that holding NIAC accountable is and should be an important matter for all of us, specially those in US that is being done in our name. However distracting from an urgent and grave matter is only to the benefit of that group.
I wish people who legitimately have opposition to NIAC, would organize, write, educate and most importantly provide alternatives to NIAC. Attacking them while they are working on a subject that is near and dear to many of us (opposing legitimization of MEK) will only have the opposite affect. I hope people who oppose NIAC will see this point.
'Vahdat' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad