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Gossip column banalities!

It is both cowardly, paranoid and not to mention unethical to utter gossip about someone who's not present at a particular thread, let alone accusing them of using multiple usernames! But then again, I said what I had to say to set the records straight. Hence, leave gossiping to those who excell at it, i.e. losers who have nothing better to do with their time than speculating on who might be doing what!

Have a nice life (provided you get one)!

Good one Anglophile

I'm sure you've heard the old Persian saying: choob keh barmidari, sag-e dozd....He's so defensive about it too, which adds to the mystery.

Anyway, who cares who these clowns are.  I'm just having fun here at this guy's expense, and he's too dim witted to notice it.   You know, every time I post a blog, one of the sarbazaan-gomnaam-e flestin takes on the task of being the blog's jester.  Curiously, it's usually people whose posts I never read and whom I never engage in a debate.  This time, it happens to be "Arj."  I usually consider them background noise.  But once a while it's fun to engage them at their level and rile them up a bit...just to see smoke coming out of their ears.

Allow me to help

First of all AO's referring to an ID beginning with A and ending in J could be any of the following (in addition to Arj): 

So AO is not being paranoiac or coward at all.

Secondly one of my hobbies being to match who with who, I say that neither Arj nor Frashogar are Tabarzin (and his associated IDs) They simply lack the scholarly quality of his comments. But as to who these two characters may be? Arj s the twin brother of Ashk Dovom and Frashoagr is another joke by our good friend First Amendment.  

I may be wrong but hey that is the whole idea :))) 

It's not Ashton Kutcher

You seem to be a fan though. :-)

Soooo...are you saying that you're not Frashogar? Kind of confusing...since you appear to have the same writing style, same obsession and say the same thing.  But like I said, if you say you're not, I'll take your word for it. :-)

Now keep barking... 

Re "paranoia"

AO, everytime you add a comment, you demonstrate the depth of your disturbed mentality more than before! There are numerous fallacies in your rant below. But since you can't help reverting to your true personality (or lackthereof) by failing to maintain a civilized exchange (e.g. using terms such as "barking" to refer to others' ligitimate questions), I rest my case! FYI, I'm not on trial here, if anything, it's you who should be explaining as to why without even a shred of evidence, but merely based on musings of your twisted mind, you accuse others with utter impunity. Yet, while putting your own foot in your mouth by half-assedly recanting your accusations,you  bring them back up at the end of the same rant! I would add schizophrenia to the already-established paranoia!

P.S. what is it with you bringing up Palestine and Israel every time you run out of things to say? When did I ever bring up the Palestine, West bank or Gazza issue? Does that mean this is all you've got? Even for a person who uses Ashton Kutcher as avatar, I expected more depth from you!  

Why so defensive?!!

Just say it's not you and move on.  I take your word for it.  I was wrong if it's not you.  Plus, you're hurting the little guy's feelings by disassociating yourself from him.  See how much he loves you?  He even posted a "ditto" to your comment.  He also loves Palestine as much as you do.  You should be proud for having been compared to this guy!  

BTW, the other user with multiple [blocked] usernames hasn't even denied that they were all his.  You seem to be "kaseyeh daghtar az ash" in that regard.  Now, to respond to your arbadeh keshi, you may want to re-read this part of my response before you throw in all the "coward" mumbo jumbo:

You, on the other hand, not only seem to have not "ignored" my post, but you also seem to have read every single one of the 96 comments on that post in order to have noticed my one comment comparing another username's writing style, and obsession with Israel / Palestine with yours.

Now, I believe that I have violated my own long standing rule of ignoring you, which I established some time ago.  So, feel free to bark all you want for attention.  Better yet, go write a comment somewhere about Gaza and West Bank.  

PS- I'm just wondering...if you're not this "Frashogar" guy, why did you show up all of a sudden and started carrying the whole "paranoia" thing?!!  Hmmmm....

Re "Paranoia Re: AO"

AO, your last comment is yet another testimony to your paranoid delusions. Do you seriously think there are people actually sitting around and reading your every single post? That not only is indicative of a paranoid mind, but also goes to show how much credit and falttery you give to yourself!

FYI, I did not read every comment on this thread, though I admit that I read your blog a few days back when it came up and was surprised by its absurdity and the level of ingorance demonstrated thereof, but as usual, found it unworthy of further attention. However, when I saw a poster bring up the issue of paranoia with regards to you, especially under a blog that's supposed to prove that Hafez ws a pedophile (and, again, note that not just a homosexual, but a pedophile, hence "into little boys"), that draw my attention to follow the source of that exchange, which led me to your cowardly, accusatory comment with regards to someone whose username "begins with an A and ends with a J." supposedly posting comments under various usernames (further you mentioned about a dozen or so usernames apparently belonging to the same person)!

Since I can't see anyone else here whose username fits your description, and I was not born yesterday, I figured you were referring to me! Now, you still haven't mustered up the courage to say whether it was me you were referring to, or not. I am willing to let the admin of this site ban me indefinitely if I'm lying, and indeed I have used any other user names other than the one I post under (i.e. Arj) since I joined Iranian.com. What about you? Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and say who it is that you are accusing, or are you going to futher elude the issue by hiding behind guess works?!

RE: "ignore"

You may want to look up the definition of the word ignore before you use it Arj.  Ignore is what I have been doing to the other username, "Frashogar" for the past week, when he has been continuing to bark on my blog in order to get a little attention from me.  I have yet to throw him a bone, and will doubt that I wil do so in the near future.  You, on the other hand, not only seem to have not "ignored" my post, but you also seem to have read every single one of the 96 comments on that post in order to have noticed my one comment comparing another username's writing style, and obsession with Israel / Palestine with yours.  Now, as I told you some time ago, when you were chasing me from blog to blog, I have no interest in debating anything with you.  So, consider yourself extremely privileged for receiving this response from me.

PS- the reason why I did not mention a full username has to do with the rules of the site.  You can guess whether or not I was referring to you. 

Well said

Nonetheless, I applaud you for having the audacity to undertake a task,
considering your level of knowledge in Persian literature, that would
otherwise take literary scholars a life time of research to ponder!

Ditto!

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Re the "paranoia"

AO, I normally ignor your posts. But this time I make an exception, since you seem to be referring to me by hiding behind a game of charade and playing scrabbles (i.e. "...begins with an A and ends with a J.") If you actually, as I suspect, trying to imply that I use other usernames to post my opinions, why don't you have the courage and say it outrightly?

Indeed, the only thing I have in common with the user, Farshogar, is that I believe that you are a paranoid individual! For if you read my posts, you realize I have nothing to say that I wouldn't be able to say under my one and only user name, Arj that is. Moreover, I give the admin of this site the permission to not only delete all my posts, but to ban me (and all my other usernames your paranoid mind suggests I use) indefinitely, if I have used any other username since I have logged in here as a member!

However, if you were not referring to me in your post below (which would be odd considering the game you were playing!), accept my apology for having insulted you!

P.S. There is a difference between suggesting that someone, who no longer exists to defend himself, is gay with inferrring that he has been "into little boys!" Especially, based on uneducated judgements drawn from literary metaphors analayzed via insufficient knowlege! Nonetheless, I applaud you for having the audacity to undertake a task, considering your level of knowledge in Persian literature, that would otherwise take literary scholars a life time of research to ponder!

Have a nice...

لطفا از حافظ سو استفاده نکنید

10,000 years from now, if anyone will know anything about Iran, it will be due to great minds and spirits like Hafez, not any crazy Shahs or Imams.

Paranoia Re: AO

You suffer from it. Seek a professional for your ailment.

a distinctive style

They all have a distinct writing style and seems like they will never get tired of repeating themselevs over and over, about the same old issues.

It maybe a new form of loving themselves and being infatuated with themselves without having to go too deep:))

Actually DM jaan

Now that I think about it, he could also be that ILoveIran/Kuroshmazandarani/CIM/Shahab Ferdowsi/Anti-warIII/Tabarzin/etc., etc. character.  It's about time for him to reappear anyway:

//iranian.com/main/blog/anonymous-observer/arc-ir-propaganda-agent-iranian-com

We will find out soon.  Once he starts posting Jew and Bahai hate videos and blogs.  Not that I care.  He can post and say whatever he wants.  It's a free forum.

AO

AO jan

GET out of town!! realllllllllllllyyyyyy? this is the same person??? whoaaaaa.......you mean the three - lettered names we all know about? 

there is something odd about this guy and sometimes i really thinkand wonder what may be going on in his mind...noticed that he loves repeating himself over and over! and i find that quiet amusing and i guess the trigger point and key phrase for him to start putting on a good show is : Reza pahlavi is daaa man and the pahlavis are the best:)))

then Boooom! something dramatic starts to unravel.

thanks for the info pal.

Mehrban, Zendanian, DM & Rea

Mehrban & Zendanian- Thanks you for your comment.  Somehow, I agree with you and others in thinking that Hafez himself probably wouldn't have a problem with this line of inquiry.  [One of] The problem(s) with our culture is intolerance of critical exmination of sacred cultural icons.  It's part of the reason why we have been ruled by successive dictatorships in modern history, and are being ruled by the only theocracy on the planet.  By contrast, look at other cultures.  Look at sexuality of Abraham Lincoln, and the rumors of him being gay.  A lot of civilized debate on that issue without anyone being called a "hater" of Abraham Lincoln:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Abraham_Lincoln 

DM jaan - As we say back home, "khoone-e khodet rp kaseef nakon" with these trolls.  Do you really care about what he thinks of you (and me)?  Let him think we're Israelis writing from Tel Aviv.  Who cares?  I told you, the minute these trolls start distracting by throwing in Israel and Palestine into a discussion related to Iran, I start to ignore them.  They can blabber on all they want about Gaza and the West Bank.  Not my area of interest.  This particular one has another udername that begins with an A and ends with a J.  He was doing the same thing with that username, but somehow has decided to show up under a new one, as if we can't tell. :-)

Rea: I think the discussion has been pretty good so far, with a exception of a couple of trolls and LOL's.  Most people, including HFB, have made good contributions to the discourse. 

Wow !

Read it all, dutifully. And now wonder what was this blog about. I must've missed the hidden message, kind of Da Vinci code. Shall I start counting words, 2nd line, 3rd word right to left. ;o)) 

????

You are the champion of "left fielders" aren't you?, I wonder why haven't the dodgers or the Astros have not offered you your own spot on the team...

Keep on cheeleading Bro. Entertain us.  

And eye veel go bak and reeed eeey eslowwwwleee okay? 

Touchy

Both yourself and AO flew off the handle into left field with that comment about Israel and missed the point entirely. Read it again slowly.

The doom and Gloom Prophet

AO jan

It is an honor to be able to come to your blogs and enjoy a nice round of enlightening discussion based on what truly traspires in this little hell hole we call our world, and actually learn something rather than reading and listening to a bunch of Nazis- in disguise ranting and raving about subjects and issues borne out of someone's wild imagination. 

I concur with you 200% bro . This Israel plaything needs to be done away with and stop being thrown around at any given occasion. 

And you are right. I do live in the "occupied territories", and having a damn good time with my open-minded roomiee, where even though i may not approve of many of my neighbors' lifestyles, inside and outside of their bedrooms at least i respect them.

Now they better run and catch their flight. Al attention Al pilot is al calling al for them. Last call for flight 24242442 to Hammas's newly built community "Al family al Value al city", all funded by our family value loving, Insubordination concert...oh sorry...conference-holding, buddies in iran.

Hey they say you can get free beer in tehran during those few day. Lots of sweepstakes for you to enter...lots of free giveaways... I am definitely going to check it out!

wish you were here with me AO:)) 

Frashogar

You are more "shoot" and off that i thought you were. And i am sorry, was that you "articulating" something down there? LOL, dude. U need to seriously get serious, I mean LOOOL. Sorry ao jan i know how you feel about this LOL buisness but this little" hello...I am frashogar ...and i know so much about world affairs" fellow here is really somethfiing else :)))

And No ... I don't leeev een eezzraeel. eeez eeet ok veeet u?

Takes a real historically and poltically ignorant, 100% religiously biased, and basically a fanatic to just ASS UME as to what the whereabouts the person with who they are having a conversation, ON LINE on top of that.

Have a safe flight to Lebenon aboard Hammas airlines . They will take you where specialists show you how and what "family values" are. So much so, your eyes may even bulge outta their sockets. 

AO, you ought to read more from works of contemporary Iranian

philosophers, such as Aramesh Dostar and such. They all have been establishing a much needed critical take on the entire span  of Iranian history and culture. For the past thirty years we have had many wonderful works written  in Persian that discuss and dismiss many of our backward notions. Alas no too many people have paid attention to such critical takes, including this here I.C.!

More or less, all their prognosis seems to sound the same: Iranian culture and politics since ancient times, pre-Islam, to Islam, to now, is a thoroughly religious based one.

And that needs to change.

Easier said than done!

Hafez was an iconoclast

Ao jaan much like you, Hafez was an iconoclast and I have little doubt that he would not mind your inquiries.  Keep asking questions and challenging the status quo.  

Response to Zendanian's excellent comment elsewhere

Zendanian had left a comment on another thread about Hafez's poem, a part of which I will quote here:

by Zendanian on Tue Aug 21, 2012 06:04 PM PDT

Is any hint of a critical take on our culture a sign of "hatred" or comeplete rejection of it?

A wholesale rejection of a critical take on our arts, culture and history would be very close to an infantile disorder."

Here's your answer Zendanian jaan: we simply cannot do that.  Because we are a hysterical, religiously fanatic nation with delusions of granduer that is obsessed with person (not necessarily hero) worship.  We are the only nation on this planet that has been--and is being--ruled by a theocracy for the past 33 years and in the 20th and 21st centuries.  We are also the only nation on this planet that has attacked three diplomatic missions and has taken diplomats hostage.

Now, If we had an ounce of self respect and the smallest ability to engage in critical thinking and critical self examination, we wouldn't have the dubious distinctions that are mentioned above.  

By your logic

Every Iranian anywhere should roundly ignore you since you don't seem to write anything else other than to denigrate Iranian culture and Iranians everywhere. Are you even an Iranian? I doubt it.

DM & Anglophile

DM jaan - Thanks for dropping by and thanks for your intelligent and well articulated comment.  But both you and Anglophile should immediately stop wasting your time arguing with "Frashogar." And that's because he just brought Israel into a discussion about a poet!  I have a rule: when Israel is brought into a discussion about an Iranian issue which has nothing to do with Israel, it's time to ignore the commenter.  That's my rule.  Now, they're obviously free to say whatever they want, but I'm just not interested in entertaining the subject of their obsession.  

And yes Frashogar, DM lives in Israel.  So do I.  We're roommates in Tel Aviv in an apartment complex built on confiscated Palestinian land. :-) 

anglophile

Keep dreaming, old boy. No one is convinced that Maggie was anything but one of the Tory boys in a wig. The day Britian can elect a black female PM is the day Britian can call itself an open society. Until then, touche, pip pip!

Case closed indeed :))

My dear fellow, you gave the game away by your last comment. You clearly have no clue about the British society and much less so about the British political parties. The Conservative paty (aka the Tory party) as its name suggests had been the bastion of male chauvinism and domination (until Margaret Thatcher arrived on the scene) as opposed to the more progressive labour party who introduced the first female labour MP to the British Parliament.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Bondfield

Game Set Match - LOL 

anglophile

Even Meryl Streep's portrayal of Thatcher couldn't convince that Britian is an open society. Now if that old Maggie had been the first female Labor PM of Britian, then maybe you would have a point. But the old girl was a Tory. Case closed.