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So Much for Change Mr. President !
08-Mar-2009
By Khalid Amayre
The infamous Rice paid 24 visits to Occupied Ramallah and Occupied Jerusalem, babbling about the “peace process” and George Bush’s vision of two states living side by side in peace, Israel and Palestine.
Eventually, however, it was proven beyond any doubt that she was a lying emissary representing even a more lying boss.
So one may really wonder if Hillary Clinton will be re-enacting the same absurd show, same lies, and same deception.
In her recent visit to Occupied Palestine, the former NY senator, who had proven herself a submissive pawn in the service of Zionist circles, reiterated the same old platitudes about US commitment to the “two-state” solution.
However, she didn’t dare utter a word against the unmitigated expansion of Jewish colonies in the West Bank. Needless to say, it is obvious that the relentless intensive building of Jewish-only colonies has already rendered the prospect of a viable Palestinian state utterly unrealistic, if not outright impossible.
Even pro-Israeli stalwarts, people like Bob Simon of CBS, have come to recognize that the two-state solution is dead and that time has passed it by.
If so, how could the Obama administration be truly committed to the two-state solution when the same administration keeps encouraging Israel to build more and more and more colonies on occupied territories? Silence in this case means approval, and both the American monkey and the Israeli organ grinder know it quite well.
Far from calling the spade a spade, Mrs. Clinton dutifully asserted US commitment to Israel’s security, as if the Nazi-like apartheid regime, which possess hundreds of nuclear warheads and has one of the world’s strongest armies, were facing any credible threats.
Clinton was quite silent about the recent genocidal onslaught on Gaza which left the bulk of the coastal territory thoroughly destroyed and more than 6,000 men, women and children dead or maimed, thanks to the American-made and American-supplied weapons of death that Israel unleashed against the thoroughly starved and defenseless people of Gaza.
Such a silence just enforces the impression that Clinton is not really capable of behaving honestly, a sine-qua-non for possessing the ability to make a just and durable peace. After all, she belongs to a politically-promiscuous generation of American politicians in whose lexicon words like honesty and morality and justice don’t really exist.
Let us examine a few other statements uttered by Mrs. Clinton. While in Jerusalem, she said that Israel had the right to defend itself and that no country would tolerate rockets being fired on its population centers.
Well, this is a half-truth that is worse than a big lie.
It is so because she callously ignored the fact that the junkyard-made “rockets” were actually a desperate outcry by a people languishing under a criminal siege unprecedented in its harshness since the Ghetto Warsaw siege in 1942-43.
So, one might ask Mrs. “Innocent Abroad” what she thought the tormented prisoner population of Gaza should do as Israel has effectively been transforming their enclave into a real concentration camp? Die quietly? Or just accept the status of wood hewers and water carriers vis-à-vis the Ubermenschen, the Chosenites?!!
Or just examine another repugnant statement made by her while having a chummy chat with Israeli Prime-Minister designate Benyamin Netanyahu who repeatedly declared that he wouldn’t allow the creation of a real and sovereign Palestinian state on the West Bank?
Clinton pointed out that she would work with any government chosen by the people of Israel?
Well, then why she is refusing to deal with any government chosen by the Palestinian people?
Does she think the Palestinians are “children of a lesser God” who have yet to come of age if they ever will?
Indeed, who does this lady think she is to deny our people their natural God-given right to elect the government of our choice?
A few weeks ago, Israelis elected a new Knesset a majority of whose members are bona fide fascists, many of whom shamelessly demand ethnic cleansing of non-Jews. Others advocate genocide against the Palestinian community whose existence in Palestine predated the arrival of East European Khazari immigrants by thousands of years.
But we heard nothing from Clinton, or Obama or the other political whores of Washington, D.C., past and present, whose one-eyed approach to the Arab-Israel conflict is responsible for the enduring bloodshed and oppression in this part of the world.
Another point. Mrs. Clinton might be tempted to think that the blood money she pledged for the reconstruction of Gaza and propping-up the Palestinian Judenrat in Ramallah would induce the Palestinians to choose a government that would give up or compromise the inalienable rights of our people to return to their homes and towns in what is now Israel. But, nay, this won’t happen, come what may.
This won’t happen, because what is in the heart is in the heart, and collaborators and quislings, no matter what grand titles they have, shall eventually be crushed.
And now a few words for those gullible Palestinian and Arab leaders who entertain the same false hopes every time a new American administration comes to power.
It is time you realize that without a real revolution in Washington, one that would deliver the American government and people from the Zionist stranglehold, there is not the slightest chance in hell that America will be able to accomplish peace in Palestine.
Today, Israel tightly controls the American government, including Congress, as well as the media, especially the so-called agenda-setter media. Moreover, Israeli leaders are bragging about Israel’s predominance in American political life.
“We don’t ask our American friends to do this or that , we order them to do it,” suggested one Israeli official recently.
This means that as long as Israel continues to call the shots in Washington D.C. and as long a American officials such as Hillary Clinton continue to shake at the mere thought of upsetting the powerful Zionist lobby, which exploits America and her resources for the purpose of achieving Jewish-Zionist territorial aggrandizement in the Middle East, counting on America to bring peace to this region borders on illusive and delusional day-dreaming.
For sure, a country that is nearly hopelessly enslaved by Jewish money and Jewish power, is not free to achieve peace.
Such a state should be called the “United States of Israel,” not the “United States of America.”
In recent years and months, some American politicians warned of the grave consequences of America’s phenomenal subservience to Israel.
Michael Scheuer, a former CIA analyst now a consultant to CBS News, was quoted as saying that “our unqualified support of Israel was the main reason for 9/11.”
Anthony Zinni, George Bush’s first envoy to the Middle East declared that “the United States invaded Iraq for Israel and oil.”
Now, Israel is pushing and bullying the Obama administration to attack Iran in order to ensure Israel’s military supremacy in the Middle East and beyond.
Some American government officials privately acknowledge this bullying, but are reluctant to speak openly lest they lose their jobs.
What is crystal clear though is that America’s embrace of Israeli colonialism and criminality will just preclude any genuine chance of peace in Palestine.
In Short, America needs to produce politicians who are more honest than fearing the wrath of the Jewish lobby.
However, this won’t happen until mainstream America discovers the disastrous role Israel and her agents play in America’s national life.
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Landanneshin
by Kaveh Nouraee on Tue Mar 10, 2009 09:57 AM PDTFor someone who claims to not enjoy such exchanges, you seem to have no problems in continuing.
However, as my time is limited, I'll make this my final response.
You seem to be mixing things up. Hamas is Arab. They are not Palestinian, but they are indeed Arab. Palestinians are Arab, but that doesn't mean that all Arabs are Palestinians.
Funny that you mention that Palestinians originally are from Jordan. It seems to be lost on many that Jordan doesn't appear to have an interest in the plight of these people anymore beyond perhaps compassion. That also seems to be the case where other Arab countries are concerned.
The IRI's involvement underscores the fact that there are entities that are acting out of their own self-interest and to serve their own agenda, and not that of the Palestinian people. To think that either the IRI or Hamas or Hezbollah are truly acting in the interests of the Palestinian people is both naive and ignorant.
Only the Palestinian people hold that legitimate position.
Please again Mr. Nouraee!
by landanneshin (not verified) on Mon Mar 09, 2009 05:54 PM PDTI don't enjoy this sort of exchanges, but please get the historical facts right! To start with, before the implemantation of the British Mandate in Palestine, the people who lived in the area stretching from Sinai to Syria, and from the Mediterranean sea to the Jordan valley, were the mixed indigenous population of Arabs,Sefardi Jews and Palestinans. It was only when the British allowed a mass immigration of Ashkinazi (European)Jews to the sea coast area that the question of separation and creation of a Jewish entity arose.
Also,almost all the people that you might consider as genuine Palestinian, are actually from today's Jordan. That dosn't mean that they are, or were Arab or jordanian, beacuse there was no such divisions in that vast area until London and Paris divided them and called them names, such as Lebanon,Jordan and even Iraq.
Secondly, as you correctly say, Hamas gets its religous inspirations from the Moslem Brotherhood but that doesn't make them Arab. You wouldn't call a Brazilian Roman Catholic an Italian from the Vatican! would you?
Finally, by bringing Iran into the debate, I think you demonstrated that for you the real issue is Iran's support for Hamas and Hezbollah and not if the Palestinians have a legitimate case to defend or fight for.
Landanneshin
by Kaveh Nouraee on Mon Mar 09, 2009 05:07 PM PDTOn the contrary, Hamas originated as an offshoot of the Egypt-based Moslem Brotherhood.
You asked "so what" with respect to the significance. It is significant in the sense that neither group holds any Palestinian national allegiance. Neither of these organizations lawfully represent either the countries from where they originated or those they claim to be assisting.
Hamas' militia was outlawed by the PNA. Therefore, their actions are in violation of the law, such as it is over there.
Neither of these two entities are interested in anything other than watching the world burn.
And of course the IRI supplies the gasoline and the matches.
Mr. Nouraee,Please!
by Landanneshin (not verified) on Mon Mar 09, 2009 04:36 PM PDTWhile your point on shortcomings and failures from both sides of the conflict is right and justified, please note that while Hezbollah is a Lebanese Arab and Shi'a party, Hamas is Palistian through and through, as it was elected by them to form their government.
But even if Hamas was an Arab group and not Palistinian, I'd say, so what?
The British citizens joined the anti-Franco forces in Spainand the French Partisans helped their counterparts in occupied Norway and Greece. etc..etc.
Please remember that for Hezbollah,Palistinians and Syrians, there is only one occupying force and we all know who that is.
Captain
by Kaveh Nouraee on Mon Mar 09, 2009 03:39 PM PDTHonestly, I don't pay attention to either Fox or the Times.
I said that whether it is an Arab or an Israeli writing the article, the objectivity will undoubtedly be questioned. This isn't intended as a criticism of either side, but as an observation of what all of these years of conflict has yielded as a result. If anything, it vividly illustrates how both sides have merely been going around in circles and accomplishing nothing in the process.
I would add that if the writer were neither Arab or Israeli, then both sides are likely to summarily dismiss the article entirely. There's deep skepticism over both the message and the messenger. After so many years of mutual distrust, what else can be expected? There's an enormous amount of damage that's been done.
Also, I'm not rejecting anything and everything that has a shred of criticism towards Israel. But I wholeheartedly reject any and all arguments that do not hold all parties accountable, or worse, those arguments that have the tendency to somehow justify or excuse the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah, which are Arab, but not Palestinian. I'm not going to tell you or anyone else that everything Israel has done has been above criticism. Of course not. But at the same time, the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah cannot and must not be ignored or discounted.
FYI
by capt_ayhab on Mon Mar 09, 2009 03:01 PM PDTRAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Hamas's popularity among
Palestinians has risen sharply since a three-week Israeli war in
January devastated the Islamist-ruled Gaza Strip, an opinion poll
released Monday showed.
If an election were held today, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh would
beat Mahmoud Abbas, the Western-backed Palestinian president and leader
of Fatah who advocates a peace deal with Israel.
The face-to-face poll of 1,270 people by the Palestinian Center for
Policy and Survey Research was conducted on March 5-7 in the West Bank
and Gaza Strip, as the factions tried to reach agreement on a unity
government with Egyptian mediation.
Hamas, which Western powers shun as a terrorist organization, won a
Palestinian parliamentary election in 2006 and seized control of the
Gaza Strip the next year after fighting with Fatah.
Israel responded by tightening its blockade of the coastal enclave, increasing hardships for its 1.5 million residents.
The January war, which Israel launched with the stated aim of
stopping cross-border rocket fire by militants, killed some 1,300
Palestinians, destroyed 5,000 homes and left much of Gaza's
governmental and economic infrastructure in ruins.
"Despite the visible increase in the popularity of Hamas and
Haniyeh," the pollsters reported, the overwhelming majority, 71
percent, believes Palestinians are worse off than they were before the
war.
The survey said Haniyeh would garner 47 percent support, beating
Abbas with 45 percent, if a presidential election was held today. Three
months ago, Abbas received 48 percent and Haniyeh 38 percent.
But if the competition were between Haniyeh and Marwan Barghouthi,
the popular Fatah leader currently imprisoned by Israel, Barghouthi
would win by 61 percent to 34 percent, the survey showed.
Fatah, however, remains the most popular faction with 40 percent of
overall support, compared to 42 percent last December, it said. The
popularity of Hamas in the same period increased from 28 percent to 33
percent in the latest poll.
The most important priority for Palestinians today, in the eyes of
46 percent of the sample, should be the unification of the West Bank
and the Gaza Strip.
Nearly two-thirds believe a Hamas victory in presidential and
legislative elections would lead to the tightening of the Israeli
blockade of the Gaza Strip, whereas nearly as many believe a Fatah
victory would mean the end of the blockade.
Respondents in Gaza in particular believe a Hamas victory would perpetuate the blockade and the rift in Palestinian ranks.
(Reporting by Ali Sawafta; Writing by Douglas Hamilton in Jerusalem; Editing by Ralph Boulton)
//www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE52...
-YT
Landanneshin
by capt_ayhab on Mon Mar 09, 2009 02:40 PM PDTAbsolutely sir/madam
UN has become nothing but a puppet for US and rest of the big boys in the security consul. To top that, they have been utterly silent and powerless to stop the expansion of ILLIGAL setlements.
-YT
Kaveh
by capt_ayhab on Mon Mar 09, 2009 02:35 PM PDTAll due respect, you watch may too much Faux and read way too much of NYT. If the writers of such criticism are Arabs , then they are called biased. If they are none Arabs then they are called Jew Haters.
This logic of yours is losing its argumentative power on the basis of rejecting everything and anything that has a shred of criticism toward Israel. These poor bastards will be damn if they say anything and will be damned if they don't
I am not saying that there is not some bias in the article, however if you notice he say more or less what people like Richard Falk been saying.
You say they are not Arab, them what are they? and if so why Israel helped them to power?
-YT
Does anyone really??
by Landanneshin (not verified) on Mon Mar 09, 2009 02:31 PM PDTIt's over 40 years since Israel occupied parts of its Arab neighbours' lands, and it is over 40 years that Three UN Security Council resolutions have called the occupation illegal and (politely) asked Israel to relinquish the lands to their rightful owners, and again,it is over 40 years that the American jewish lobby,with the veto power of its faithful obidient servents in the Whit House, has managed not only to ignor these resolutions but buid townships on them and call them "our promissed land."
And please note, who's calling Iran a "threat to the security of its neibours' and the whole region"!
Furthurmore,now the very same Security Council,(guess under who's leadership!!)has passed three resolutions condemning Iran for doing what under the very rules of its own atomic agency-IAEA, is absoloutly legal.
And what's happened this time? The USA, with her faithful and impotent European friends, impose sanctions against Iran and even talk of a possible military action against her by (guess who again)- according to the UN, the illegal occupier of its neibours' land, and the very state that was secretly presented with nuclear material by USA and Europe for free and not even an NPT member.
Now, if the Palestinian "leaders" are still believing that one day there will be an independent state for their grandchildren to call homeland and play football in, and after 40 years, are still hoping that the Americans will deliver that, I am sorry for the lot of them and those who have ever believed America to be a fair player when Israel is mentioned.
very interesting interpretation
by anonymous fish on Mon Mar 09, 2009 01:08 PM PDTKaveh and one that makes sense without pointing fingers. it's for sure that nothing is going to be resolved with the attitude seen on iranian.com for example. two state solution isn't perfect of course but still the best thing so far. the endless propaganda against israel really does nothing more than make most supporters just that much more supportive. and it's for sure that the anti-jewish crowd can't get much more venemous...lol.
the author is palestinean. you think he's going to be impartial? come on... get real. this is factual but anything coming from israel is propaganda? it don't make sense guys, it just don't make sense. and people know that.
First of all
by Kaveh Nouraee on Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:08 AM PDTIt can hardly be expected to find a shred of objectivity in an article concerning the Palestine/Israel question written by either an Arab or an Israeli.
Is a two-state solution dead? Nope. It's hardly healthy or robust, but it isn't dead, in spite of the efforts of both belligerents in this seemingly endless conflict to do just that. I believe that it can be accomplished, with the occupied territories being a sovereign Palestinian state, complete with withdrawal of all Israeli settlements. It has to come from both sides, Israel and the PNA, with no outside interference.
In this article, the writer states that the United States is refusing to deal with a government chosen by the Palestinian people. Yet the question must be asked: Was this government chosen by the Palestinian people, or is this a case of a group that isn't even Palestinian to begin with, taking advantage of the vulnerability and sheer desperation of a shell-shocked, beaten and weary population that just wants to wake up to the sound of an alarm clock rather than the sounds of exploding artillery shells.
Take whatever negative feelings you may harbor regarding Israel or the United States aside for a moment. Pretend neither of them exist. Just for a minute.
Ask yourself if either Hamas or Hezbollah have acted in a manner even remotely resembling good faith or honorable intentions since their respective inceptions. When drawing your conclusions, be sure not to factor in the Palestinian civilian population, the Palestinian National Authority, or Fatah. I think that we can all agree that neither the civilian population, Fatah or the PNA are belligerents in this nightmare. Fatah at one time may have been, but that was then.
What is happening here is a sick parallel of sorts to what happened as an everyday occurrence here in the early days of the United States.
Then: Blacks were sold into slavery and brought here in chains on ships. Despite the fact that they were kidnapped and sold into slavery by their own equally black countrymen, whites are reviled to this day and are blamed entirely, with the fact that it was blacks who sold blacks being all but a casual afterthought.
Now: An Arab people are deliberately being placed in harm's way, used as pawns and human shields in their own homes, by other Arabs, who are motivated by nothing other than sheer hatred, as well as a misguided and prostituted sense of faith and morality. The culpability of those Arabs who have perpetrated, escalated and continued this bloodshed while doing nothing to end the violence has become an afterthought as well.
Whether you're a proponent of a two-state solution or a one-state solution, in order to realize any solution, you have to exclude the people who are meddling from either "out-of-state", like Hamas and Hezbollah or the Department of State.
James Hovland, good for you!
by susan3 (not verified) on Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:50 AM PDTI sure wish you the best and hope what you say is true. (I am straining to the best of my ability to refrain from using the "but" that my sentence begs for!) Let's hope for the best.
well...... /hi james welcome aboard...
by rosie is roxy is roshan on Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:53 PM PDT//iranian.com/main/news/2009/03/08/u-s-turns-heat-israel-over-settlements
Let's start here with the silence on the settlements. Does this person know for sure what they're talking about?
Clinton's no Mother Teresa but Obama's no Bush.
(S)he calls the billions of dollars in aid "blood money." Fine, then! Let's...take it back..
What does this person want, a miracle? Yhere are no miracles. None. Only at night when you dream...
Let's be fair Mr.....
by nemah (not verified) on Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:43 PM PDTDon't you by now know that it's not in the hands of Rice or Clinton or even God to solve their problem, (Jews/Muslims) We should remember Hamas, like IRA is a terror State and what do you really expect other countries to accomplish, these two retarded courtiers keep shooting at each other's civilians, let them die if they want to. What do I care.
America needs to get out of the slum the previous president created by going to wars with the wrong enemies, by the popular vote of all American, don't think or even hope for America to solve their or even your problems, take RESPONSIBILITY for your own fricking actions dude. That goes for all of us IRANIANS inside and out.
Peace goes forward as planned.
by James Hovland (not verified) on Sun Mar 08, 2009 05:59 PM PDTAmerica voted for change, and we expect to be held to it. You're not going to let us off easy with a pessimistic view that we'll never change! No way, not this American. I want to be pushed, and pressured to pursue the path we have committed ourselves to.
The real political battle is against the propaganda. America needs information and perspective from the Middle East to overcome 60 years of Zionist propaganda. It was effective back when TV was high tech, but the world has clearly changed. Here on the net, our "we" is a global community. Isolation doesn't exactly apply to us. The people are forging a new path, and when we raise our voice, our leaders really have no option but to follow. We are at a point in time where we can come together and make conscious decisions about our future. The people are beginning to understand this, and we are making a stand. It's time for peace, and we're not backing down.