WHO'S THE EXPERT? John Simpson Proves Barbara Slavin Wrong on Libya


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WHO'S THE EXPERT? John Simpson Proves Barbara Slavin Wrong on Libya
by Darius Kadivar
25-Mar-2011
 



In the thick of the battle in Libya, Veteran War Correspondent John Simpson who has been in the line of fire more than once in his life proves If anything that political or historical assessments by so called "experts" are anything BUT Rocket Science (For lack of a better word). In 2008 Barbara Slavin  (senior diplomatic reporter for USA Today and current Jennings Randolph fellow at the U.S. Institute for Peace, who is often invited to speak with NIAC Panalists ) patronized a fellow Iranian compatriot who bluntly asked a question about the possibilities and risks of a surgical strike on Iran's nuclear installations ( as opposed to an invasion) by claiming that there was no such thing as Surgical strikes and recalled the bombing of Gaddafi's Head Quarters by former President Ronald Reagan in 1986 during which amongst the civilian casualties journalists had reported that a young girl was killed and posthumously adopted by Muammar Gaddafi. Interestingly John Simpson recalls the same incident but offers an entirely different perspective and conclusion to that of Slavin in 2008 in his latest report from Libya (currently bombed by Coalition forces with an aim to protect civilians and with hopes that the Libyan dictator will at best step down, at worst be overthrown by the rebels).

 

John Simpson Reports from Tripoli on March 25th 2011: 

Gaddafi’s Propaganda War Fails to Convince by John Simpson 

"Tripoli is hit by coalition bombs and missiles every night, yet there is little reliable evidence of any casualties. The coalition countries know that killing civilians would be disastrous in this war, and they are plainly making big efforts to avoid it.

Libyan television often shows news pictures which purport to be those of civilian victims, but they are impossible to verify. The authorities here are anxious to persuade the outside world that large numbers of civilians are dying.

And there is a precedent. In 1986, when the US bombed Tripoli, international opinion quickly turned in favour of Libya because there were many civilian casualties, and the international journalists who were in Tripoli at the time were able to confirm them.

Colonel Muammar Gaddafi adopted a young girl as his daughter just as she was dying from her injuries, and to this day journalists often repeat the line that his daughter was killed in the bombing. It was a particularly clever propaganda stroke.

But times have changed, and so has military technology. The old myth of pinpoint precision bombing has become much more of a reality."

 

Barbara Slavin on Surgical Strikes in Libya being counter productive (ForaTv on Apr 8, 2008):

Middle East expert Abbas Milani and USA Today and reporter Barbara Slavin argue that U.S. "surgical strikes" are not a practical option for dealing with Iran's alleged nuclear program. 

 

The Panel interview John Simpson - a man who's been bombed by the USA and farted at by Gaddafi. 

Part I: 


Part II:




Poetess Simin Behbahani Compares Khamenei to Gaddafi: 

Poetess Simin Behbahani in a Recent Telephone Conversation said she was emboldened after hearing President Obama's Nowrooz 

Greetings in which the latter quoted one of her poems. 


Flynt Leverett & Hamid Dabashi: Iranians do not want to overthrow the Islamic Republic:

 

Related articles by Flynt Leverett:

 

Why Libya Gave Up on the Bomb - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com by FLYNT LEVERETT


Who's Really Misreading Tehran?  by FLYNT LEVERETT, HILLARY MANN LEVERETT


 

Donald Kagan Prof of History at Yale University (Go to 4 min 25 sec):

 

He explains that Machiavelli's Principles are best put to practice when it comes to International Politics

 

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SATIRE: WHOSE THE EXPERT ? 

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Mel Brooks the Stand Up Philosopher:

Danny Kaye: The Thinker:

 

Dr. Strangelove - Survival Plan:

 

 

Dr. Strangelove - Precious Bodily Fluids:

 

Daie Jaan Napoleon Best Of:

 

Patton Intro - George C. Scott:


 

 

Inglorious Basterds -trailer:


 

Dude - Rio Bravo:

 

 

 

Daie Jaan Napoleon - Tirandazyeh Doost Ali:


 

 

You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk ? 

"Un Taxi pour Tobrouk" aka "A Taxi for Tobrouk":

"Deux intellectuels assis vont moins loin qu'une brute qui marche...

 

NIAC members Lost In Translation:

 

 

Recommended Readings:


 

John Simpson on Eye Witness : Iran’s Revolution Revisited (bbc)

 

Hossein Bagherzadeh’s take onObama, Libya and Iran (Persian – Iranian.com)


NIAC Stop trying to Stop the War, Stop the Nukes Instead!!! by eroonman



 

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Bonjour DK : )

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oh not again ...... too many links ....I hope God grants me some more time on the planet earth to catch up with all ....... 

let me see .... hmmmm ........ let us start with this one that you posted dear DK 

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 I've learned to listen to him beyond his carefully selected words. here he says:

"when the security of our Nation is at stake, we have to act."

And then he spoke eloquently about saving human life, helping the real people at Libya, the difficulties of war, bringing NATO in control ... blah, blah, blah .... NOT A SINGLE WORD about how or why the security of the nation was in jeopardy ... which supposedly was his only reason to attack Libya. 

Oh well ...... this is Obama's Iraq, there was massacre after massacre in Dafur, no comment, Yemen, no comment and the list goes on...... Libya has an industry that the puppet master Soros wants to control of .............  not hard to figure out ..... duh

les gens dans le français le regardent même ?

quelle était leur réaction ? 


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Foreign journalists have been taken to Misrata, the only city in western Libya which is still controlled by the rebels after five weeks.

After many stops at army roadblocks, we have been brought to a place on the outskirts of Misrata, about three miles (10km) from the city centre. There were many signs of fighting as we were driven in.

Occasionally, there has been the sound of heavy machine-gun fire in the background. A big column of black smoke is going up in the air not far from us. But there is a strong suspicion that much of this has been set up purely for our benefit.

As we drove along slowly, a fire suddenly started close to us - a generator had caught light, somebody suggested, but it certainly was not the result of enemy action.

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I should say I am agree with SHAH on this

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kySR3fpa5s&feature...

and it is the first time I am hearing it ...... i got this from the link you posted

interesting !  


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DK Jan , What goes up must come down

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In general, when they are going down, the empires often listen to ill-advised military misadventures.............. That seems to involve crazy efforts to salve the sting of retreat or defeat by occupying new territories, however briefly and catastrophically. ....... These  irrational operations often yield humiliating defeats that only accelerate the loss of power.

They  suffer an arrogance that drives them to fall even deeper into military misadventures.......... This is what exactly America got itself into within last couple years ........

Also War has economically brought U.S down on its knees ..........  so now America is fighting another battlefield  at home ......... It is hard to survive on two fronts .........

Since the assassination of JFK not a single American president ( Democrat or Republic ) has had the power to act independently  ....... it seems that  the politic of the oval office has changed more presidents than the presidents change the oval office .....  

In addition to that unfortunately U.S , against the advise of its forefathers ,has been siding with one specific country in all of its foreign affairs  ...... This and this alone will eventually bring it down ........

Now who is next ?  I can only guess .......... but no matter who ....  just remember what goes up must come down ..........  and it is true for any Empire ..... past , present , or future ........

 


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So far, so good

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Mais Mon chère Soosan K I'm merely repeating Your Thoughts ;0))

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We are putting into practice what you liberals were hoping for all these years: The Fall of the American Empire ...

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You just forgot that once Your Dreams were to come true someone or rather another Continent would take over the job you seemed so eager to give up.

 

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Obama should have studied Machiaveli more carefully in College ... 

 

Hee Hee ... 

 

 

 


Soosan Khanoom

Cher DK

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ne vous moquez pas des américains

Don't worry Americans one way or another have always saved Europe   :)


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