Did Imam Hossein die in Karbala or because of an Opium overdose?

by Faramarz_Fateh

I do not have an issues with anyone questioning the Holocaust. I don't have any issues with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a person questioning or denying the Holocaust.

I do have issues with the following however:

1)  As a Head of State, Ahmadinejad does not have a right to speak for 70 million Iranians on an issue which does not have any bearing on well being of the Nation. Although perhaps 20 or 30 million Iranians may share Ahmadinejad's view, 40 to 50 million don't.  

2) What would happen to someone if s/he questions any of the following publically:

a.  Station of Mohammad (SAV) ..... for example, one could say Mohammad was a figure like Genghis Khan (and not a prophet) initially but then someone suggested to him to explore the religious angel because its more profitable and the rest is history) 

b.  Sacredness of the the Quran (0ne can say Quran was written by a paid ghost writer several hundred years after Mohammad; filled with laws to oppress and stories made up by people who wanted to create legitimacy for him) 

c.   Existence of the 12th Imam  (suppose Israel starts a massive campaign debunking the whole idea of the 12th Imam)

d.  Manner in which Imam Hossein died? 

We remember what happened with Salman Rushdi and more recently with Theo Van Gogh who was killed because of making the movie Submission.  Or how about the cartoons that caused protests all over Europe? 

In some cases, the best defense is offense.  Maybe the Jews instead of defending the Holocaust as something that really happened should start questioning some of things the Shia's have been selling as reality?  


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Mr. Abadi

by Faramarz_Fateh on

There is no doubt non Muslims (Jews and Christians) have questioned Muslim beliefs.  I do not believe Christians and Jews are Kuffars; they are people of the book.  Baha'i's on the other hand are Kuffars according to most Muslim theologians but they unfortunately believe in Islam.

Jimmy Carter is a devout Christian. I don't recall him being disrespectful or questioning validity of Islam during or even after his presidency.  G. W. Bush was a devout Christian.  He also never made any statements to that effect about Islam even after 9/11.

To Israelis Holocaust is as important and as sacred (if not more) as the Torah and Moses. Ahmadi is not only questioning the Holocaust, he is denying it ever happened.  His speeches are on youtube.

Cartoons of Mohammad were not drawn by heads of States.  Where they?

You can say whatever you like about he Holocaust in the U.K.  There is NO punishment for that.  Please tell us where you have found such information.

You can buy Mein Kumpf in Germany. You cannot, in public say Holocaust happened in Germany.  If you do, there is a fine, but no jail.  If you are a German government employee and say something to that effect, you will be suspended from work but not fired.  This is part of German constitution post WWII.  

If Germans wanted to remove this from their constitution, they could have and would have.  Germany is a democracy.  People's vote count.

Is there double standard in the world.  Absolutely.

Should a head of State make comments such as Ahmadi has been making, I think absolutely not. 


are you joking?

by dariushabadi on

Non-Muslims have always questioned Muslim beliefs. Salman Rushdie was targeted because he was a "Muslim", before him many non-Muslims had questioned Islam and no one cared (because they are kuffar)


So if they question the Prophet, draw demeaning pictures of a world-wide respected figure, why can't we question their holocaust?


Especially since people go to JAIL in UK, Germany and a few other countries for questioning the holocaust (it is illegal in most european countries to even buy the Mein Kempf), but drawing the Prophet's cartoon is an expression of freedom of speech.