Musings of a former chicken

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In the 1980s there was another theory

about AIDS. It went something like "the government had unleashed the HIV virus." There was a critic who wrote about this and said "even if it were true, what can we do? so what? we are too powerless to do anything. this is the reality we live in. we aren't as free as we imagine."

The reality is, even if the theory were NOT true, and Bush administration was really so incompetent as to not prevent the attacks, the Americans, like live stock, went ahead and let their nation become a third world country in the name of war and contractor riches.  

It's Not a Conspiracy

Check the stocks for Delta and American airlines in the 2 business days prior to 9/11.

Both airlines's stocks experienced equal doubling of their volumes from about 700,000 shares to 1,500,000 shares which means some people or individuals sold 2x2x700,000 = 2,800,000 shares of those airlines knowing their shares will drop on 11th.

Point: people in America knew about it or had a hand in it.

That, plus the other 250 evidence.

So for once that moron Ahmadinejad is correct.

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why is it crazy to question 9-11, but not crazy to believe in a fake god? people who subscribe to this theory have more evidence than do the millions who believe in god.

it doesn't matter whether ahmadinejad believes this. who cares? this isn't news.it doesn't affect anything. 

Conspiracy theories flourish across the board

However, if Joe says it, or I say it, what difference does it make ? Neither Joe or I matter. 

But the nut case in question is president of the country claiming the leadership of the region!

Cost of Illiteracy

You didn't read what I wrote. You obviously hate my guts, which is great. 

Have a great day.

P.S. America is not big and bad. It's a good place. Don't bad mouth my country. It just needs to get its priorities in order.

Yeah..sure Marge

It's not about IR, but about how conspiracy theories make people like you feel......You bad mouth the big bad america while our own people are being persecuted by the bearded thugs.

Apparently you live in the US. So tell me, if the situation had been reversed, how many "western looking" people would have been allowed to live let alone stay and work in islamic countries in the aftermath of such calamity? 

I am just as much a conspiracy theorist as the next guy, but a little bit of reasoning is a good thing.

I agree that we do not know everything that happened that led to the event of Sep 11th, but to speculate about things you do not know, is irresponsible at best. 

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Dude you

are getting way out there: 

The Big Question to Ahmaghi nejad is this: Is the US your enemy or are you just shouting slogans.  If it is your enemy then why are you always running away from real confrontation. 

Maybe because AN is not the same as Iran. No matter what he thinks it is not up to him to sacrifice Iran in a war with US. Going to war with US is going to wreck Iran. Maybe he knows that and decided not to do it. In addition he probably knows that a war will mean the end of IRI and he will end up like Saddam.

Let the battle of Islam vs Christian Crusaders & Zionists begin and either we will make them Moslem or they make us Christians and game would then be over.  We would know which is God's true religion.

Some of us like me do not accept either religion. I don't care which wins. I am not interested. You talk about "us" I guess assuming "we" are all Muslims. You are wrong we are not. You also seem to think "they" are all Christians or "Zionists". You are wrong again they are not.

A lot of people like me don't believe  in any of this mubo jumbo. They should their  religion and khorafat to themselves. I don't need them. I drink to the day when religion is taught as ancient mythology.

Ahmadinejad is a certified idiot

'"The September 11 incident was a big fabrication as a pretext for the campaign against terrorism and a prelude for staging an invasion against Afghanistan."

BY stating the above, Mahmoud Ahmaghi nejad, is admitting that the United States would not undertake an action without probable cause.  He is admitting that the US government cares enough about public opinion to get their full backing for wars.

In other words, Ahmaghi nejad is admitting that the United States has enough respect for world public opinion that it would want to justify its actions.

Whereas, Ahmaghi nejad's government can CARE less what anyone including its citizens have to say when it decides to take on a new adventure.

Someone ought to tell that idiot, that the US with or without backing from anyone whether its citizens or world governments would take action where ever its interests are threatened.  But Ahmaghi nejad by his statement shows that the US is a democracy that cares about what others have to say.

The Truth behind 9/11 is that both the US government and Iranian government knew that Al Qaeda is up to something major on US territory.   Both chose to look the other way and not disrupt Al Qaeda's plans to see what happens afterward.  The US figured it would be make the case that ISLam has replaced Communism as the No 1 threat to world stability and peace.  Iran chose to look the other way as some of the Hijackers and their backers passed through Iran.  It made sure it does not stamp their passports with entry stamps to deny that Al Qaeda operatives ever crossed Iranian territories.

The Big Question to Ahmaghi nejad is this: Is the US your enemy or are you just shouting slogans.  If it is your enemy then why are you always running away from real confrontation.  Let the battle of Islam vs Christian Crusaders & Zionists begin and either we will make them Moslem or they make us Christians and game would then be over.  We would know which is God's true religion.

Marge

Rome was also on a war spree before it fell.

So did the Sassanids. In fact that is what robbed them of the vitality needed to defeat the Arabs. 

However in this situation I think America has some time to go.

Game over

Rome was also on a war spree before it fell. 

It is incredibly sad. I love America and it's sad that its potential is lost to so much waste and stupidity. The first lady of the country, for example, is teaching people how to feed themselves and their children.

Marge

I don't want to get too far pulled into this thing. But being Iranian I am naturally pulled to conspiracy theories :-)

I will just reply to one thing you said:

I can't believe anyone takes the United States seriously anymore. We're in two more Vietnam Wars, and we are bankrupt. Instead of investing in science and education, we fund Blackwater to bomb bearded men.

The US has the biggest military force in the world. It spends  > 40 % of the total global military budget. It would be unwise not to take US seriously. This is not a political statement. It is a fact. Whether on right or left we have to recognize it. 

In addition US still has a huge economy and the dollar is the global currency. Now if these were to change then the position of US will change with them. For example Britain is no longer taken nearly as seriously as it used to be. Why: because they don't matter as much. Russia is not as important as it used to be also. However if you were Georgia or Ukraine then Russia matters a lot. So it is pretty much it. The same way as Iran matters a lot in Iraq. It is all the global game.

False Flag

Need I say more?

-YT 

P/S google it

You realize why Ahmadinejad is saying this, though, right?

9-11 was ages ago in terrorist time. 

The United States and Israel are not above staging something to pin on the Iranians. The entire Vietnam war was based on a fake attack set up by the USA called "The Gulf of Tonkin Incident." The Vietnamese had poison poured on them when they tried to defend themselves.

I can't believe anyone takes the United States seriously anymore. We're in two more Vietnam Wars, and we are bankrupt. Instead of investing in science and education, we fund Blackwater to bomb bearded men. We send soldiers to Kabul to sweep floors and dig toilets. It's a JOKE worse than the Iran-Iraq war. 

FYI

Cross posted on //www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/06/pentagon-...

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A sincere question:

If this guy has happened to have seen/pass by a Muslim in a mall
somewhere, some few years back, would we be crying terr@rist and
jih@dist by now?

Whom ever decides to answer, please speak your heart.

Where are the repugs hiding on this one?]

-YT 

PS Repug = Republican nut cases and Neocons

No it doesn't; he's not a conspirator

Stop making such a fuss. Set an example. Stop creating panic and fear. You're one person. He's one person. 

The obsession with Ahmadinejad, not who he is or the power he has, is the real problem in the USA. 

he's a subscriber, NOT A CONSPIRATOR. he's also not alone. there are LOTS of other Iranians who believe that it was shady, and they aren't pro-IRI, so stop making this about IRI or Iranians. It's an idea that is out there in the public's consciousness. 

People see a lot of connections. George Bush and Dick Cheney wouldn't even testify about this in pubic. They didn't allow a transcript to be taken about their co-testimony. Yes, W Bush was so scared that he would say something dumb that he had Cheney with him.

The only weird thing about it is that it was permitted to happen. The conspirator would be W. Bush if this were true. 

Old "theory", new conspirator

Whatever the reason, the cause and the conspiracy, we all know that a bunch of innocent folks died on that day.

When a head of an State (makes me feel sick to say that) gives credance to such unfounded garbage, it makes us all Persian people look like dicks!

Nice going hezbollah!

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The Pahlavis, all mullahs, and all public figures associated with the Green Movement  must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth/income.

MM

ditto and fanned..

Opps this place does not have a FAN function

-YT 

Who created the Bin Laden?

Our dear friend Ferdie is just getting desperate. What else can you expect from Hannity lover, Beck huger, Limbaugh dweller but to repeat the same old TRUTH-according-to Faux-Nation  over and over and over again.

Pity is though that some of these righteous RIGHT wing nuts are rather smart, only if they started using the gift of logic.

-YT 

lol

MM that was my favorite comment! thanks for the laugh.

Hey guys,

Please stop! Mein Früd will then ask the sane world to act and put air tight sanctios on IC too.

It's not strange at all.......

There's something called luck. These terrists are lucky people. Hani Hanjour was a crappy pilot. He still got the pentagon. 

George Bush Sr. was meeting with Osama bin Laden's brother the morning of 9-11, doing what? discussing defense contracts! wow. Bin Laden's had Bush's friend taking care of their US money.

Imagine if they were Iranian. Are there any Iranians with friends as important as the Bushies? 

Tonike Bomber

Not to mention the Tonikeh Bomber, whose father allegedly went to the embassy and told them the his son was planning to blow up a plane with his under panties.

ina maro allaf kardan be molla, 

-YT 

isn't it funny that they fingerprint Iranians coming to USA

and yet they can't stop 19 Saudis who can barely pass pilot classes. All that money that goes to security and military, and still, THIS. Health care? TOO BAD! NO! Education!? Just use book and pencil. new Computers? hahaha too bad.

Loose Change

Ir or as Fredie says it IRR, looks so Amrikaie and youg wih no accent here

-YT 

9/11 remains high in conspiracy list.

IRR, is a fabricated abreviation unless you are talking about your personal wound. Are you?

A point

these are not new or unique to AN. People have been making these allegations for years. There are whole web pages dedicated to it and books written on them. What I mean is this not AN's idea and others came up with it years ago.

So what if he thinks 9/11 was a set up?

Who cares Fred? Why does it matter? He's one man. The entire nation should be punished because of this guy and his views? Thank dog you're not in charge of anything.

Your blogs are a big fabrication. The same model each day "IRI said this. IRI did that." No reasoning. No warrant but the conclusion is plain and simply "the sane world must "ACT."

This is the stupidest attempt at logic I have ever read, unless you count the religious extremists I also hate.