The actual human cost of the past eight months of peaceful demonstrations on the part of fed up Iranians and their suppression by the traditional Islamist savagery of IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic is not known.
But given the number of mourning families who have had their loved ones murdered, all those who have had their family member(s) incarcerated, those who have had to flee and those men, women and children raped and tortured, the actual number must be in thousands.
The question is, was it worth it?
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Great question
by David ET on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:49 PM PSTThe pain and suffering and the blood shed was not in vein but I pointed this as being unnecessary shortly after the first post-election aggression by the Islamic military regime.
On June 24 in an article titled Iran at a crossroad I wrote:
... with the lack of true leadership that exists any more encouragement of unarmed Iranians to face the armed forces of Islamic regime will only result in unnecessary bloodshed without any specific gains. At this stage anymore such calls without strategic planning are nothing but adventurism that result in unnecessary crackdown, arrests, injuries and deaths. Continuance of the status quo and adventurism also play in to the traps of the same old usual opportunists of different camps from ultra right to the left who have again come out of the woodwork trying to take advantage of the situation for their self-serving gains.
//iranian.com/main/blog/david-et/iran-crossroad
My views remain unchanged.
Fred, there is a beautiful word that summarizes your blogs
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Mon Mar 01, 2010 02:11 PM PSTI'm afraid to use it.
By the way, why are you spelling your favorite leader's name incorrectly?MEIN, mein herr, MEIN.
Mien Führer
by Fred on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:59 AM PSTMien Führer, as it has been brought to the attention of your fellow Islamist Rapist apologists on number of occasions, when you put something in quotation mark it has to be from the person you are quoting. So mien Führer where and when did I say as you claim: "so what, they've been doing X already"
BTW only an Islamist will have your deductive reasoning to lead you to conclude from my post as “proposing even more violence” only an Islamist sees violence as the key to all problems.
The rest of the cluelessness pack, you are all doing a good job, keep on trucking.
Fraud's justification "so what, they've been doing X already".
by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:49 AM PSTSo now you've jumped from one post defending your morally superior stance to actually proposing even more violence in order to see IR gone.
Good job, Fraud.
Don Mien Früd,
by Mardom Mazloom on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:16 AM PSTTo answer your question: Was it worth?
- Yes it was, ta cheshm hassod koor.
First of all, Iranians didn't wait your approbation to go tell their frustration against evil,
Secondly, Protests are FAAAR from being finished. There are just Mien Früd and other islamist rapists in Iran and on this site who think that manifestations are over,
Finally, Iranians will fight till the end to bring freedom, liberty and justice in Iran.
Mien Früd, you just continue your campaign of fear and hate we'll see if you'll do it at the end. Good luck air-tight-sanction-man
MEIN Fuhrer Fred
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:03 AM PSTYou are a really classy guy. Just when I think "there is NO way this user cannot stoop any lower" you do it. Bravo.
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by capt_ayhab on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:02 AM PST"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
-YT
Mien Führer
by Fred on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:12 AM PSTNow, now mien Führer “massive violence that will follow”, are you kidding?
What do you think your Islamist brethrens have been doing to Iranians for the past thirty one years? Not massive enough for you?
You want to prolong it with the incremental and nonexistent “reform”, people like me are after ending the suffering your IRR imposes on Iran and Iranians.
Fraud
by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:02 AM PSTBut of course, you really could not give a damn. because you are against the millions who are supporters of the green movement.
Mien Führer
by Fred on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:22 AM PSTNow now mien Führer, aren’t you a budding Islamist demagogue. What you wrote as justification is/was a known fact to all who are not in one way or another beholden to the Islamist Rapist Republic. There was no need for the ramping up of Islamist violence by your Islamist brethrens to prove the known facts.
BTW, unlike you I am for regime change at the hands of Iranians who are being treated violently by your regime on a daily basis. So it is you who is for violence not people like me who are advocating its end.
Fraud
by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:07 AM PSTyou didnt expect me to write a marsieh for the beloved martyrs and the oppressed now did you? You asked whether it was worth it.
Am I saddened by the deaths and the brutal crackdown of the regime? Of course I am. But I gave you an non-bullshit, neutral observation devoid of any emotions.
Of course being you Fraud, one would understand how disappointed you might feel in the fact that the green movement is still alive and it rejects most of the policies you stand for (airtight sanctions, violent sudden change of system..)
Mien Führer
by Fred on Mon Mar 01, 2010 07:40 AM PSTAren’t you so generous with Iranians’ lives, so big of you mien Führer?
All the Iranian men, women and children who were raped, maimed, tortured and murdered must really appreciate your generosity at their cost.
It was worth it.
by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on Mon Mar 01, 2010 04:54 AM PSTThe regime has lost lots of legitimacy.
The world now sees Iranian society as a non-monolithic one.
It has made Israel/neocons think twice about bombing Iran.
The Iranians now see that they cant just sit on teir asses and expect politicians or national heroes to make miracles. They have to do something themselves.
And last but not least, it as opened the eyes of many exiled Iranians to the realities of Iran.
So yes it was worth it.
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by timothyfloyd on Wed May 12, 2010 09:37 PM PDT.
No way. Not worth it. Shame on the protesters. Shame on the USA
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Sun Feb 28, 2010 04:53 PM PSTThe sane world was insane in the last year, obviously. Why didn't they "step" in?
Fred, it hasn't even been a year, and you're still enjoying this rain on the parade. Jesus Hussein Christ! Taste and patience aren't really your best qualities, but who cares!? Anything for the Fuhrer!