"Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth"

Niloufar Parsi

You're clearly being harassed by this ex person. Do you want me to fly over his head and give him a special gift?  faghat lab tar kon :-) jik jik

NP

i know none of the site's administrators personally.

Heard that before! From Ayhab! And then he lost his temper when somebody accused him of being Ostaad, and not only admitted to knowing Ostaad but claimed there were a "couple dozen" people on this website who knew both him and Ostaad personally and could testify to the fact they were two different people.

I don't really care who knows who, or how well. I'm capable of making my own assessments about how things work on this website without trying to analyze your personal lives. It would be none of my business, if you guys didn't work as a team. But, you do work as a team. And I'm far from the only one who has noticed.

Quantity of comments is meaningless. 300 comments? so what?

Everything is sacred.

EPC

this is exactly why i said you live on a different planet. i have no 'gang'. i know none of the site's administrators personally. so it is hard to 'collaborate'.

you need to deal with the paranoia in your head dude.

get over your account deletion. it really is a boring story.

i have no problem with you 'gunning for' me. just make sure you don't trip over and shoot yourself instead.

over and out with you.

Anonymouse,

it would be expected to have a higher number of registered users as  anonymous comments are not allowed. i was talking about the volume of comments on blogs. we regularly had comments exceeding 300 on the 'most discussed' list of blogs. it looks to me like the numbers are lower now. but once again, it really does not matter. it's a minor point.

Hey practise a little bit of tolerance

mg

Tolerance is the acclaimed attribute of people with democratic beliefs.If we can not take each others' views so we are daft and snubbers students who have no clue how to work out the intricate and inherently argumentative issues.

Are we really daft and snubbers students? or perhaps we are just a little careless with our...?

NP

and get this: i have absolutely no say in who or what gets deleted on this site

Meaningless, since at least one person in your gang is well known to have been a moderator until recently. And the way your crew likes to tag-team people in the comment sections, it would be ridiculous to try to claim you don't collaborate on things like censorship.

NP

I have no interest in debating you. You turned me into an enemy, using that cute little tactic you yourself described. You got a black hat on, and I'm gunning for you. If you want to rehabilitate your bad reputation then you need to patch things up with all the people you stomped on in the past. You can pretend you've changed all you like but where's the evidence? You are just trying to make yourself feel better by sucking up to people you haven't alienated yet. That's fine, but it doesn't address the unerlying issues does it? If you want a fresh start without having to work for it you need to go someplace where nobody knows you. Or you could just create another ID and pretend to be somebody else. Or have you already done that?

The number of registered users has actually increased on i.com

There are actually a lot of new users.  No more "JJ approved anonymous and filtered comments" who were used by drive-by shooters. 

Everything is sacred.

EPC

we will debate issues whenever u decide to return to planet earth. till then, i consider time spent on debating with you as wasted. i don't learn anything useful from you (while i would from well-informed neocons and others i do not agree with) and you do not even make an effort to be pleasant. so what would be my motivation for engaging with you? it is not personal. just that i don't see the point. perhaps you can help me out with a suggestion?

half of your comments are poorly informed or irrelevant while highly antagonistic, and the other half are about who deleted your comments. that is just not interesting. i even suspect that you have a drinking problem or some such, but i don't mean to offend. it is just an impression i have of u.

and get this: i have absolutely no say in who or what gets deleted on this site, and have only on 2 or 3 occasions Ever flagged any comments for deletion in over a year of blogging here. i don't even believe in flagging any more. and i thought it a mistake that anonymous comments are not allowed any more. now we see the numbers of contributors diminishing - at least it looks like that to me.

there are many others for your to debate with. share your pearls of wisdom with them and allow me to miss out, ok?

and btw, i do not wish for you to leave the site. i believe in your right to participate. i also have the right to not engage with you if i do not wish to. this right you flatly refuse to acknowledge. why?

Captain: i bet you are having a ball with all this! :)

Ayhab

I have to admit Niloufar Paris has been remarkably reasonable and rational in this thread. But maybe some people remember things she has said and done in other threads. I know I do... how could I forget? It is due to her efforts that I have to use this "ex" account, after all.

Carig

Are you kidding me? Just joking man.

Firstly it is meant to be a joke, since Ms. Parsi is being chastised for making that extremely generous remark about a certain comment of mine.

Secondly it was a joke to lighten up the situation and demonstrate how waste of time it is to argue about small things in life.

-YT 

Ayhab

You are going to write a blog to assess whether or not you are courageous? Seriously? :o

lol

...curt humour (as in making fun of them)...

Yes, making fun of anyone you disagree with is always a good tactic. And note, that's your first response. Your second response (silence) happens when your first tactic (intimidation) doesn't work.

And you forgot to mention your other two tactics, which are "censorship" and "playing the victim". Playing the victim is especally cute when even you admit that you deliberately make fun of people who are not your enemies, and that this turns them into your enemies. Who is the victim in such a scenario? Hmmm?

Oh, and your other other tactic is the same one that people have observed in Captain Ayhab: being overly nice to people when you aren't in disagreement with them and misrepresenting your true opinions to make them feel you are on their side.

But what do I know about it? I'm just one of those people you turned into an enemy, and whose account you got deleted...

Courageous or not ??

Its time for a blog to be written about whether my comment, as Ms. Parsi so graciously put it was [courageous] or not.

Has to be a juicy topic I would say.

Cheers ladies.

-YT 

Ok then. My discussion on this topic of "dare" is done.

Everything is sacred.

u digging a hole for yourself

- apologise to you? fat chance given that you are so wrong.

- there is no 'dare issue'. it is all in your obsessive head.

- you saying something is sexist does not make it sexist. it just makes you incomprehensible.

- 'Don't encourage sexism unknowingly'. good advice for you to take. also, try to learn to respect others' opinion. that is the first message of feminism.

'I'm saying 2 males and 2 females have somehow objected to your comment.  That should say something.' you are saying nothing. and which 2 males objected? of the 2 females, you are the only one objecting. stop talking on behalf of others. it is your right to object, but demanding an 'apology' is both weird and childish. who would dare to get engaged in debate with u? it takes courage. and i have plenty.

keep your opinion, but don't demand others hold the same. it is a rediculous position. taleban-like, actually.

somethings are sacred and the rest can be done away with given..

My two cents is sometimes it is good to know when we have discused an isuue enough.   As far as being sacred, my motto is: somethings are sacred and the rest can be done away with given enough time and space.

Q&A session!

oh dear

Yes Dear! 

you want me to apologise to you for my own opinion?

No not to me. Yes in general. 

tell me, how many male comments do you see out of over 100 here?

Handful. 

why do you think that is?

Males didn't want to comment. 

perhaps they won't dare with your pouncing style?

I'm sure that is not the case but the "dare" issue is yet to be resolved.  If that is the case, I am very flattered.  It'd be awesome to know I have such a power! Don't you think?

and you really think you take any cause forward by going on and on about the definitions of 'daring' and 'courageous'?

Apparently so, otherwise I'd not have commented.  Your daring and courageous comment is actually sexist, whether you acknowledge it or not. 

where is the content of your message?

Don't encourage sexism unknowingly.

what are you trying to actually say?  

I'm saying 2 males and 2 females have somehow objected to your comment.  That should say something.

Everything is sacred.

oh dear

you want me to apologise to you for my own opinion? you sound a little oppressive actually for someone who is complaining of sexism. 

tell me, how many male comments do you see out of over 100 here? why do you think that is? perhaps they won't dare with your pouncing style?

and you really think you take any cause forward by going on and on about the definitions of 'daring' and 'courageous'? where is the content of your message?

what are you trying to actually say?

Which motto is better? Mine or i.com? Which covers more?

We've had numerous discussion with JJ about his nothing is sacred motto but he leaves it there.  So I have this motto in response.  I believe the nothing is sacred motto is meaningless and more offensive than democractic. I'll take my motto down when i.com's motto is taken down.

Of course there are exceptions but which motto is more democractic?  i.com or mine?

Besides why are you jumping from one subject to another?  This is about your daring comment.  You can either say it was wrong or you stand behind it.  It doesn't really matter.  It seems apologizing is like taking a suicide pill.  It isn't.  It is good to acknowledge wrong doings and move forward, regardless of who makes the mistake. 

Everything is sacred.

Anonymouse

so your own motto is basically meaningless?

are opinions sacred too? Is Taliban's opinion on women sacred?

Everything is sacred.

Anonymouse

are opinions sacred too?

Apples and Oranges

that deserves some encouragement perhaps as it allows for more discussion to take place. 

You're saying just because a man said something in this debate, it deserves encouragement and called it "daring".  I believe that is wrong.  Woman, cheese and wine?! So because other men didn't comment on "woman, cheese and wine" they are coward or scared?!

You can say daring comment was wrong and that'd do it.  Or you can continue and say "don't get me wrong" and join RW and MPD club! Not that there is anything wrong with it!  I believe me and others are bringing the improper use of the word daring and encouragement, the rest is up to you.

Everything is sacred.

Anonymouse

actually i thought he (Capt) was saying that someone saying that they love women, wine and cheese is not fundamentally sexist. i basically agreed with him on that. and i honestly didn't think that any of the men would dare come forward and repeat it again, but he did. does that explain?

or is there another issue here that i am not aware of?

Peace

Anahid jan

re. Capt sensationalising Souri's comment: i have on occasion noticed him perhaps over-reacting in some debates - though i did not see the particular one you are referring to. I too have been guilty of the same on occasion (not too often i hope!). it is constructive to take the time to point such things out as you and some others do. i tend to try and work on myself more on such issues, as i can get too emotional sometimes...

The subject matters that we discuss are tough, emotional and heartfelt, at least for most. it is hard not to get 'loud' at times. and there are people who have been dedicated to this site for far longer than i, and they have a strong sense of ownership, rightly so. from previous debates i cant tell you that my advice to them on how to debate has not been taken very positively.

in the face of the most difficult persons on the site i employ one of two tactics. curt humour (as in making fun of them) or silence. silence tends to work better, but the nastier side of me takes over sometimes and i resort to what the English refer to as 'piss-taking'! it's fun, but creates enemies! 

just wanted to share all that :)

Peace

Dear Niloufar, you have the right take

You have the right take about original comment of RW which started everything.

Dare devil acts on i.com!

from what i read, the main argument on the original blog seems to have been about whether iranian women have done enough to fight sexism in iran. would that be the right take? 

Yes. That is what RW said.  Now what is the daring part for supporting such a comment by saying the person who made that comment didn't mean it or was misunderstood?

And don't tell me "don't get me wrong" because that is the whole issue here.  Someone says something but when confronted, s/he says "don't get me wrong"! 

Everything is sacred.

anahid, anonymouse

i really don't have enough understanding of the background to the disputes. i saw a number of different blogs on the topic, and not the original one that was removed by MPD or RW. No harm intended to anyone, so pls don't read me wrong on this. 

what i did notice is that other men went silent, but captain made his point here. that deserves some encouragement perhaps as it allows for more discussion to take place.

from what i read, the main argument on the original blog seems to have been about whether iranian women have done enough to fight sexism in iran. would that be the right take?

it's like asking whether black people have done enough to fight racism, or muslims the same. putting the onus on the oppressed is a typical diversionary tactic at worst, or an outright abrogation of responsibility at best. 

NP you're not making any sense.

 dared to do it on this particular blog

And what would be the "punishment" for dare devil acts? The most dare devil acts were by RW and MPD and I don't recall them caring about their "punishment".

Everything is sacred.