How Useful Are Iranian Know-It-Alls And Their Advice? Part 8


How Useful Are Iranian Know-It-Alls And Their Advice? Part 8
by JahanKhalili

The last blog entry in this series concerned what was REALLY in Cyrus the Great's cylinder.

Given all the false claims about it that Iranians were believing, it seems evident that none of them ever actually checked.

Iranians are good at making, sharing and believing rumors. The upper class "Westernized" Iranians are the best at it - better than their lower class religious countrymen.

They have a little "knowledge" economy. Its more advanced than the one Iranian villagers have. They spread rumors and gossip among themselves - across hundreds of kilometers!


With the aid of cellphones and computer chips! Their gossip spreads at the speed of light!


Aren't they superior? 


In Iranian culture, knowledge is gained by listening to other Iranians. Since Iranians love to be at the top of their little totem-pole-like society, they want to be the "know-it-all" that everyone listens to.

They are masters at believing bullshit. 

They even believe their OWN bullshit.

They made up that stuff about Cyrus's cylinder, and then they believed it.

But independent checking is beyond them.

In Iranian culture, knowledge does NOT come from investigation or research that is independent of authority.

While the Iranian reputation-dorks were busy consulting each other and spreading around bullshit, foreigners ignored them, and discovered things in Iran.


Above is a photo taken of the Behistun inscription.

Its discovery paved the way for ancient Persian to be read and translated.

How was ancient Persian deciphered and translated?

I'm no expert, and am really just beginning to learn about this. Anyone out there who knows more than me, please feel free to correct anything I say here.

However, it appears that the Behistun inscription - Iran's equivalent to the Rosetta Stone, which was an important discovery that helped pave the way for that language to be decoded and understood - was NOT discovered by Iranians.

Iran's past lay buried and forgotten for centuries and centuries - quite Ironically, under big oblivious self-important Iranian noses. Foreigners finally discovered it.

Iranians had of course known about the area before. Iranian poet Firdausi made up some interesting bullshit about it that wasn't true (In fact, it became a real hit. Iranians are good at something, at least).

But an Englishman named Robert Sherley was the first to finally bring it to the attention of Western scholars. He also made up some bullshit about it that wasn't true. (It seems to be part of human nature to make up bullshit about things that they haven't fully investigated). 

Carsten Niebuhr published the transcriptions in his book in Europe, allowing Georg Friedrich Grotefend and others to try deciphering them. Grotefend discovered that ancient Persian was alphabetic, and that each word was separated by a slanted symbol. He succeeded in deciphering some of the text. 

Sir Henry Rawlinson, a British Army officer, picked up where Grotefend left off.

Two foreigners - a British Army officer and a German scholar - played a key role in uncovering the mystery of ancient Persian cuneiform for the modern world.


Like the Rosetta Stone in Egypt, the Behistun inscription was decoded with the help of Western scholars using ancient Greek. The German scholar Grotefend was able to decipher some of it.

The British army officer - sir Henry Rawlinson - deciphered the rest.

It is thanks to this discovery - and the work of deciphering the characters - that we can read this ancient language Iranian language.

Without this discovery, no one would know what was in the cyrus cylinder.

So the usual question that everyone by now is wincing with anticipation at: why didn't Iranians discover this?


Once again, I'm going to state here that the majority of Iranians were probably living under extreme poverty. They didn't have the luxury to care about such things.

They deserve neither scorn nor criticism.

The Iranians at the top of their social hierarchy however probably had at least the material means to engage in things other than a struggle for physical survival.

If they could build palaces and enjoy their wealth, and throw parties for each other, they could have gone out and studied what was in their surroundings. But they didn't.

Perhaps they had to play their role, and couldn't deviate from it, otherwise their competition would gossip about them and overthrow them for being "strange".

Iranian upper class society - as primitive as it is - is very competitive.

The upkeep of pomp is almost a matter of life and death.

Each Iranian is a miniature Shah or Ayatollah, who needs to keep his hold on his domain or get overthrown. All their energy is devoted to controlling things.

So while important Iranian tribal leaders counted their gold coins, received flattery and homage from their underlings, consulted with each other, or frothed at the mouth over some stupid half-imagined insult from another official, foreigners inside Iran ignored the ridiculous Iranian social hubbub because they were never a part of it. 

Therefor they had no trouble going out and investigating Iran's wilderness.

I didn't put the picture of either Rawlinson or Grotefend on this blog. An Iranian would have. That's because Iranians worship people. But Westerners are interested in the discovery itself. 

This should be a lesson to Iranians who want to do anything similar. A pioneering spirit requires ignoring the distractions of the society and people around you.

Iranian society - with its petty obsession about politics - retards individual creativity and ingenuity.

The social prattle of Iranians is noise to people who are truly curious about the world. There is nothing more fascinating to an explorer than the world, and nothing less so than exchanging flattery with idiots who aren't interested in it.

Even the most upper class Iranians who live in the West and who fancy themselves to be the most well-endowed fruits of their country, are sorry specimens.

They remain Iranians, despite everything.

None of them have that spirit of discovery that Westerners have had. All they are good at is bullshitting, getting titles, recognitions, and the mundane sort of social prizes that bureaucrats get.

They live to get a pat on their little heads from others.

No discoveries and certainly nothing groundbreaking has been achieved by these Iranians.

They gather in flocks, and fight over their titles the way little birds fight over crumbs, and they prance about in each other's company, competing to see who has the best plumage.

Meanwhile, American eagles and Western falcons soar the skies alone, looking for things.

They avoided gatherings and flocks, and struck out towards the unknown alone.

Their friend was the sky, their domain the earth.

The thrill of discovery awaits them, not Iranians.

So there you have it.


Its the Persian paradox. 


Iranian know-it-alls are the enemies of knowledge. 


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Me, Perfect?

by JahanKhalili on

I thought it was Cyrus the Great?

What's the big deal with perfection, anyhow?

Iranians are the ones who can't admit they're imperfect.

All I had to do was point it out to them, and they went berserk. 


VPK Is A Genius

by JahanKhalili on

"What is that? "Full Blooded" sounds pretty racist to me. "Pure" that sounds more racist."

Very good! 

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Re: I'm full-blooded Iranian

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on


What is that? "Full Blooded" sounds pretty racist to me. "Pure" that sounds more racist. IFA you speak for yourself and just that. I recognize no concept of "full blood pure". Iran is a multiracial nation.

The whole  pure makes me sick. A racist pile of *** made up by ignorant people with no accomplishments grasping at race. How dare you pile your baggage on rest of Iranians.

We are not talking about dog or horse breeding. 

Purse: dog breed

Pure: horse breed

Pure: my a**.

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan


by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

For your information and as far as I can remember no one on IC believes we are perfect

I am thinking of one who thinks he is perfect: JK. I hope that I am wrong.


Not surprised

by amirkabear4u on


You are not as intelligent as you think you are and that is why you make such comments.

You remind me of those Iranian low educated teachers who verbally abuse their students for not learning.

On this site they are a lot of caring people who do not share the same political view BUT have one thing in common. They respect others. But considering you are half american, respect means nothing to you, does it?

For your information and as far as I can remember no one on IC believes we are perfect. And there is a good reason for it. No nation is perfect. This brings us to your american side. SHALL WE TALK ABOUT THEM??????

Probably NOT.


Iranian for Aryans

I'm full-blooded Iranian and I support Jahan Khalili

by Iranian for Aryans on

Mr. Khalili brings up valid points. You blowhards attack him instead of looking in the mirror.

Iranians have done nothing to analyze their heritage. It took Europeans to do it. This is an problem. Stop it with your lame-Iranian excuses which are even bigger than your noses.

Jahan doesn't have a problem. He's just telling us Iranians why we are failures. And, guess what? He's right! Iranians are the problem.

Instead of accepting the truth and attempting to rectify the situation, you attack Jahan and show the world what children and narcissists you are by putting your image above all else.

Iranians and "aaberoo". I'm pure Iranian and I'm sick of Iranians, too.

Sign me up, Jahan!


Its funny

by JahanKhalili on

Judging from the time foreigners spent studying Iran's wildlife and archeology and ignoring Iranians, it seems that Iranians weren't quite the most interesting thing in Iran, to them.

Its not hard to understand why. 



by JahanKhalili on

White people built America.

I don't understand your English, amirkabear4u.

Can you get a translator? 



by amirkabear4u on

Do not give any credit to this JK aka Baldrick. He should not be treated like a hero he is sick and needs help. My experience in Iranian society shows he is not the only half Iranian who is like this. The only difference is this one  has a big mouth!



Baldrick Know-It-All

by amirkabear4u on

You keep bragging about Iranians done nothing for their country. Here is a question and I promiss you can not respond to it.


Let see you probably do not have an answer for this questions too.



The old Testament...

by JahanKhalili on

... is a self-pleasing dildo for Jewish egos, just as much as the falsified history of the Cyrus cylinder is for the Iranians. 

Its the dumbest thing to imagine that any people were as much the heroes of their own story as they say they are. 


Objection stays!

by Waders on

  I am actually humbled.   Your contribution is much appreciated. Your insight and experience is invaluable. I have not argued with the spirit of your message but was leaning more toward cause and effect which is not the focus of your grievance.   I suppose regardless of what caused our baggage I should strive to rid myself of my share of the social ailments.       regards,           


Bible is not a history book, JK

by Rea on

A proud atheist, I'm not a great connaisseur of religious books.

But even I know that Cyrus is in the Bible.

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Regarding anger

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on


I sort of understand where JK is coming from because I went through it. Or at least something similar to it. After the hostage business I was really ashamed of being Iranian. What kind of people would do that. Once the war started my feelings changed a bit. I felt a great deal more sympathy for the people of Iran.

A major change was when flight 655 got shot down. The jingoism and lies by Navy changed my perception. But I was still angry at Iranian people for backing IRI.

Once I had children I decided I am not going to burden them with shame. That I will raise them to be at peace with who they are. Then the 2009 fake elections happened. Protests that followed showed me people are not behind the IRI. 

Since then I have  a very different view of Iranians back home. The new generation is not behind the IRI. They want freedom. It is heart warming to see. 

JK you are  funny and occasionally says something interesting. I wonder how you will be feeling 20 years from now.

For now I advise you not to use the cylinder for the purpose you suggested. It is a very bad idea even with a replica.


MM, you ain't seen nothing yet.

by JahanKhalili on

More blogs are on the way! 

Iranian bulls will have their little horns sagging after reading them, and their bullshitting will be interrupted for a few moments (before it carries on again).



occupy Persepolis, occupy a desk or enjoy both!

by MM on


Reading your blogs, you sound like an angry 2nd generation Iranian-American, analogous to what the Japanese call a bull with broken horns.  As opposed to fully horned (fully Japanese) and no-horned (completely Americanized). 

Since you are here on IC, blogging and commenting, my guess is that you are trying to adjust and see some good in the past you are partially familiar with. 

You can channel that anger into a movement to find yourself and build a bridge with your father's heritage, and I may say that you are not alone here.  Or, break the remaining horns, but honor thy father and his past.  And, alternatively, i can tell you that there is nothing wrong with a bull with broken horns since that bull has the opportunity to enjoy the good of both cultures.

wish you a happy journey


Not Adios

by JahanKhalili on

Its "Heil Cyrus".



by Waders on

that why you need to bag it.



Nobody wants to destroy that which is good

by JahanKhalili on

What's good about bullshit?


No! is that an ignorant assumption?

by Waders on

its quite alright with me Jahan. Hell I dont want you to agree with me then u start stincking even worse and we wont find the truth, speaking in context ofcourse. No body wants to destroy that which is good intentionally, it only happens out of fear, ignorance or as my opinion. there is 360 degrees of direction available, i'll be unhappy if I end up where I started the rest is a small price. 


Objection overruled

by JahanKhalili on

Anything else, unhappy Waders?


yet another ignorant statement!!

by Waders on

You had me fooled in thinking you had some regard for reasoning but keep piling up inflamed hot gasous, meaningless sho-ours. A rebel without a cause! I hope your diverging halfz can reconcile without the help of medications.   cuz reallity bites    


I heard that they found a fossilized piece of sh-t from Cyrus

by JahanKhalili on

All bow before it!


What really matters about Cyrus

by JahanKhalili on

Is whether he was good for his own people; not whether he was good for Jews.

Once again, the best artifacts we have on him were unearthed by Western archeologists.

The Bible has no historic value.

It has such ridiculous claims in it as God first creating the earth and all this stuff, and then stepping back and seeing that it was good. 

Its another example of Middle Eastern culture, too. 


Cyrus in the Bible?

by JahanKhalili on

Now you're REALLY showing disrespect to him. 

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Regarding: great cylinder

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

  Dude once again your are being such a pain in the a**. 


Who knows? certainly not you!

by Waders on

You mean CYRUS THE LIBERATOR.   Cyrus the Liberator was great enough to be mentioned in the Bible you guido and he earned the right to bragg.      And while with your irrelevent BS degree making uneducated biasd comments here why dont you go learn how to read these dildos that are stuck somewhere in your psyche and enlighten the rest of us with your then credentialed knowledge.   Now as far as where Waders wonders I assure you it is not the emotional getto some are trapped in.  


Very interesting, Waders

by JahanKhalili on

Great analysis of the subject.


what u have shown!!

by Waders on

is the incompetency, lack of qualification in the subject matter and hypocricy of your every half.

you are just as BISAVAAD as the iranians you fault and as ignorant as the rednecks you flaunt.   

And ofcourse we like to dismiss that as the matter of growing pain and lack of common sense.