Jahanshah Javid

timothyfloyd: Iran never had

timothyfloyd: Iran never had a republic to lose. With all due respect,  You have some valid points but you will not be taken seriously when you imply that Iran was a "republic". It indicates that you are not really informed about the Islamic Republic and how it came about and how it is run...

Dear Hamsadeh,I like what you wrote to Jaleho in your last com..

Dear Hamsadeh,I like what you wrote to Jaleho in your last comment.  You wrote: 

خسته نباشید از اینقدر مردم فریبی. شنیدم شپش گزیدت، خر لگدمالت کرده و یک موش روحت را داره میجوه

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JJ

right on the money!

eid norouz will be a new day for iran....

this is not a victory, when you suffocate your own people......imagine what would happen if they allowed the people to protest at will!!!!!!

they would overrun the pasdars 

Jaleho, no next one is Charshanbeh-Souri

So get ready for it, the ancient fires will set your city ablaze after dark! and this is how it's going to be darling better get used to it. Your island of stability has a big live volcano smack right in the middle of it now and its erupting often!!

By the way don't forget to tie some grass at the Sinzdeh-Bedar, Ta Bakhtet Vaa Sheh!

آقای ژاله

خسته نباشید از اینقدر مردم فریبی. شنیدم شپش گزیدت، خر لگدمالت کرده و یک موش روحت را داره میجوه. هنوز اعتقاد داری به این دولت تجاوزکار قاتل که خمینی رو حرفهای پوچ مردم فریبش بنا کرده؟  ویدئو اتوبوس هارو ندیدی ردیف شده بود برای "طرفداران" احمقی.  ویدئو صفّ کشیدن رو برای غذا و بسته هدیه هارو ندیدی برای این مردم بدبخت بیچاره که به زور چپوندن تو میدون آزادی؟  داشتن تو سر همدیگه میزدن یه شیتیلی بگیرن.  ویدئو هزاران نیروی انتظامی رو ندیدی که مردم بیرون قلعه آزادی رو محاصره کرده بودن. کتک میزدن. گاز اشک آور پرت میکردن.  خدا بهت رحم کنه.  راستی‌ فردا میای تظاهرات از ما عکس بگیری؟  میخوام پاسپورتم رو تمدید کنم. ؛)

LOL, Islamist Sara Palin

LOL, Islamist Sara Palin calls JJ, Rush Limbaugh!

Congrats JJ, you can now

start a competition with Rush Limbaugh, you've got the base too! I guess some people have no problem being the mouthpiece for spreading baseless propaganda, even when the reality hits them on the head MASSIVELY!!

"depends on what you mean by massive. Questions are being raised whether IRI supporters even filled Azadi Sq. or Enghelab Ave at the height of the 22 Bahman ceremonies. But let's assume they did. But how did they do it? By busing namaz jomeh crowds from different towns to Tehran. "

OK my friend, celebrate 10 revolutions a year together with your followers at Iranian.com! Next one is on sizdehbedar, ha?

Even the Arabs are

Even the Arabs are beginning to see the true face of IRI:

 originally posted in the news section by Niloufar Parsi

//english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/02/201021014518463761.html

Dear Fair

Meanwhile, those of you who come on this website and say who is allowed to be opposition and who is not are on the wrong history.  "Dark" or "light" or "polka dotted" greens are silly distinctions.  In my book, all those who have Iran's interests at heart are Iranian and patriotic.  Whether they be reformers, secularists for overthrow, monarchists, leftists, nationalists, religious, atheist, moonies, you name it.  Imagine an Iran where all Iranians have a place, not just the ones you approve of.  And all those who use terrorism against the people of Iran will face justice.  They will be treated like any common criminal who illegally dictates to a fellow citizen how they should live their life

Hear, hear, BRAVO. . We should all take heed and make this as our  personal goal or Norooz resolution.

HG jan: Thank you for doing

HG jan: Thank you for doing the math. I guess I was wrong because I didn't have the precise square footage.

The IRI's apologist are liars of the worst kind.

Hamsade

Thank you for your data. The google link is at

//google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/02/view-in...

It shows a sparse Azadi square at 10:47 am local time. More details and analysis links were kindly provided by Shifteh Ansari in the thread

//iranian.com/main/2010/feb/where-are-iri...

which I am reposting below. Given these pictures and your data, it is very hard to imagine that square having more than 100k people in it. After all this preparation for months. It is very telling.

However, Azadi street that feeds into Azadi square looked full of people, and it was barricaded off. In fact, this year, for the first time ever, there were two layers of barricades separating the crowds from AN. So it is not even clear what the makeup of the crowd behind the barricade was. Please visit the above thread, it has a very telling video of inside Azadi square, where people are observed not even paying attention to AN's speech, and even one IRI flag with the IR emblem cut out. In the heart of the "supporters".

-Fair

Repost of Shifteh Ansari's links:

1. You can see parts of the Google image of Tehran at 10:47 a.m. on February 11, 2010 (22 Bahman) here:

//arteshesabz.blogspot.com/2010/02/22_12.html

and here: //friendfeed.com/vahid9/0e21cf75

2. Someone has videotaped the Google Earth image. It shows the
hundreds of buses which brought the so called "pro-government"
demonstrators to Azadi Square on 22 Bahman. You can watch it here:

//culturallogic.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-pos...

3. You can see Google's image for yourself here:

//google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/02/view-in...

4. This is Rah-e Sabz's crowd analysis of the image inside Azadi Square:

//www.rahesabz.info/picstories/tehran_iran_02...

JJ LEFT WITH NO OTHER OPTIONS BUT TO BE IRAN'S JESUS

FOR LETTING DOWN SO MANY PEOPLE.

VAGHEAN, YOU LET DOWN A HUGH NUMBER OF YOUR SO CALLED FOLLOWERS AND NOW YOU ARE HERE TO PROVIDE ANALYSIS.

YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE IRI REGIME THAT KHOMENI HELPED ESTABLISH

YOU TAKE KHOMEINI FOR A JOKE.  YOU RUN AN MAGAZINE THAT 14 YEARS LATER CANT RAISE ENOUGH FUNDS FROM ITS READERS AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO QUESTION KHOMEINI'S LEADERSHIPO SKILLS AND MANAGMENT.

AHHHH, LORD, WHEN WILL PEOPLE EVER GROW UP

THE ONLY SOLUTION AND MOVE LEFT FOR JJ, IS TO ANNOUNCE IN TWO WEEKS THAT HE IS HEADING TO IRAN TO BE WITH HIS PEOPLE AND IS READY FOR THE SACRIFICE AND TORTURE

THIS EXTREME ACT IS WHAT IS LEFT FOR REDEMPTION. MAYBE THEN YOU CAN CAUSE SOME NOISE AND GET MORE POPULAR.  UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS ALL THAT IS LEFT FOR JJ.

I REALLY WISH IT WAS OTHERWISE, BUT I THINK AFTER THE HUGH MELTDOWN, JJ HAS NO OTHER RECOURSE BUT TO DO WHAT JESUS DID.

JJ WOULD DO WHAT JESUS DID- OFFER HIMSELF AND HIS LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE

vildemose

azadi square is 50,000 square meter (see azadi tower in wiki).  that area is equal to 538,196 square feet.  if each person fits into one square foot and if you subtract the area of the actual azadi tower and the area for the reporters and "khavas", then at most half million people can fit into the square.  fair indicated that there is google pictures of the demonstrations.  i haven't seen it myself (i searched).  if he could tell us where to find the picture, then we can see if the crowd actually filled the square and if it spilled into the adjoining avenues that intersect the square.

I don't think Azadi Square,

I don't think Azadi Square, including all the roads leading to the square, can hold more than a million or two people.. if we had th square footage, we could have guesstimated the number of peopel.

What is the square footage

What is the square footage of Azadi square?? Does anyone know??

A failed revolution and a failed state

JJ is right on. Just look at the pathetic showing in Azadi square, and look at the satellite evidence kindly provided by Google.

This by far was the most militarized celebration of the failed revolution in its history. The entire city was under siege by IR terrorist storm troopers backed by Chinese anti civilian vehicles. They built a fortress around the thief president, didn't even come close to filling in that fortress, and had to resort to beating and attacking and arresting everybody outside that fortress.

Meanwhile look at the people who despite open government threats, shutdown of communications, world's most severe assault on the press, execution of people on arbitrary charges, they still came out and confronted this illegitimate government.

This government cannot even pretend to be legitimate anymore. The cat is out of the bag, and history is in the making. It is only a matter of time.

Meanwhile, those of you who come on this website and say who is allowed to be opposition and who is not are on the wrong side of history. "Dark" or "light" or "polka dotted" greens are silly distinctions. In my book, all those who have Iran's interests at heart are Iranian and patriotic. Whether they be reformers, secularists for overthrow, monarchists, leftists, nationalists, religious, atheist, moonies, you name it. Imagine an Iran where all Iranians have a place, not just the ones you approve of. And all those who use terrorism against the people of Iran will face justice. They will be treated like any common criminal who illegally dictates to a fellow citizen how they should live their life.

From now until the end of this regime, let us practice this idea with each other and make an example that we can be proud of. Otherwise we will just face yet another gang in the making. No one group should monopolize power, and the people should choose. Let this be the last time in our history where the people have to kill themselves to get a new government.

-Fair

Massive?

MG, depends on what you mean by massive. Questions are being raised whether IRI supporters even filled Azadi Sq. or Enghelab Ave at the height of the 22 Bahman ceremonies. But let's assume they did. But how did they do it? By busing namaz jomeh crowds from different towns to Tehran. When the capital of the Islamic Republic with more than 15 million residents doesn't have enough supporters to fill one street, what does that say?

What this theocracy is left with is a small minority of religious followers who do not question anything the ruling clergy feeds them. They are dead inside. They are the remainder of the masses after 31 years of repeated purges. They are not inclusive of all Iranians. They are exclusively blind to realities.

No amount of lies and propaganda and superstition and threats and violence can stop a nation's wish to be free. And that's not a slogan. It's truth backed by history.

Dear JJ

mg

Great job!

But I wished you would go through the massive number of people who chanted and supported the Islamic regime as well. I mean the very same people with the very same massive number who have been doing so for 31 years.

پیروز 22 بهمن، جنبش سبز بود

22 بهمن آمد و گذشت، هر چند شاید با آنچه آرزویش را داشتیم، تفاوت داشت، اما به نظر من، دستاورد های بسیار بزرگی برای ما داشت. دستاوردهایی که باید ماه ها تلاش میکردیم تا بدان برسیم. بزرگترین دستاوردی که حکومت به ما هدیه داد، آن بود که به اقشار مردمی طرفدار خود، که ماه ها در تلویزیون دروغ تحویل داده بود، خود بطلان حرف هایش را نشان داد. نشان داد که فقط به نیروی نظامی متکی است و بدون آن توان ایستادن ندارد. این معنا مسلما به تمام اقشار طرفدار خود، عمق بحران را منتقل کرد و آن ها فهمیدند که شاید نتوان به این حکومت در طولانی مدت دل بست.

//spinooza.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_683...

Good job

 Weekly editorial is a good thing if it,s for a good cause.

Cheers!!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

JJ

Great blog.

Your analysis reminds me of the New York Times article that was published on Wednesday February 10th.    

khar

at least, you three are being attacked by the chief iri propagandist in the u.s. (or at least this site). i'm being attacked by his nocheh.  hamaro sayl mibareh maro akhtof.

on aside, i've never paid close attention to this sazegara.  but he seems to be the new number one enemy for this gang.  i listened to his latest video and he seems to be making the same observations that many other had made.  i don't understand what the big deal is?  in fact, jj made many of the same obsevations independently in this blog.

As long as green has not

As long as green has not changed to shir-o-khorshid, we are spectators of a movie increasingly boring.

This is what we get when we don't say goh khordam... and we did.

Jaleho just to set the record straight...

Khaleh Mouseh, Shepesh and I, we never called the consciously blind and profiteering supporters of  the IRI "Gaav", cause unlike them Gaav has great benefit for Iranians, if they can afford it!

The Apologist has probably never read a newspaper

Jahanshah,

First of all let me congratulate you on your excellent article. It is well written and to the point. 

It is amazing some of the incredibly ignorant remarks by certain know it all Murderous Regime's Apologist on this marvelous forum. The Certain individual has probably never read any major or for that matter local newspaper, otherwise would not make such an asinine comment. As everyone who ever read either London Times, New York Times or Washington Post can attest, there is an OP-ED Page which usually the Newspaper's the Editor or other well known journalist such as Maureen Dowd or Frank Rich writes an Opinion Based article. Jahanshah's article was of similar basis, and it is his opinion and therefore his right to express it in a free and fair society.

Of Course if the article spewed the same Garbage that this Murderous Regime's apologist puts out every day on this forum, then Jahanshah's opinion would have been the best thing since slice Bread.

Therefore, it is a good thing for this particular Murderous Regime's Apologist to read a few more articles other that the FILT that the Murderous Regime's Propaganda Machine throws out every single day.

Salutations to ALL the TRUE Sons and Daughters of Iran.

Mehdi2009

hamsadeh ghadimi

I never considered likes of Sazegara, monarchists, ...., part of the green movement. so your statement is invalid.... keep tearing ashek temsah for "Iranian people"!

marhoum-e khar

i'm glad that you're against people like me.  it is a sort of validation of the ideals that i and people like me stand for.  ideals of human rights whether if it is under the color of light green, dark green, orange, purple, or white.  i guess you got your orders to try to split up the uprising.  so you (or your higher ups most probably) came up with the idea of light and dark green.  i'm not fooled for a moment.  although i disagree with souri, i will not put her in the same category of a scumbag like yourself.  good try.  it probably sent a chill up her spine to be backed by you.

you can drink your sharbat sekanjebin or aragh sagi or whateve hell you're drinking. the iranian people are on the side of justice and that is why they will be victorioius over murderers and treacherous loudspeakers like you.

'Latter Day Greens' lost (to hamsade ghadimi)

hg, "freedom fighters" of your type can not even tolerate some very mild statements from Souri, and you claim you want to "free" Iran! Although I believe many "radicals" such as yourself are not any more democrat than IRI or any less fascist than IRI (however you want to put it), and could care less about your opinion, as it relates to this topic and 22nd Bahman, I have explicitly said that the only clear winners are progressive patriotic greens. ..... on the other hand the losers are 'Latter Day Greens' as Mammad put it very appropriately.

So, as I am typing this I am drinking to continued losses for 'Latter Day Greens' (e.g., Sazegara) but more importantly drinking to future success of progressive greens and reform.

Dear HG - thanks for pointing all non-believers in human rights

You have to believe in human rights before you truely practice your religious rights.

As someone I know said "maa mosalmaan hasteem, oonhaa eslamee hastand".